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From NFL to Startup COO to Congressman Regulating Crypto (with Rep. Anthony Gonzalez)

Ben Gilbert and Anthony Gonzalez on anthony Gonzalez on crypto regulation, democracy, and American industrial renewal.

Ben GilberthostDavid RosenthalhostAnthony GonzalezguestDavid RosenthalhosthostBen Gilberthost
Aug 2, 20222h 1mWatch on YouTube ↗
Cuban immigrant family history and Northeast Ohio identityStartup-style campaign building: customer interviews, fundraising dashboardsJanuary 6 experience and second impeachment rationaleHow committees work: hearings, coalition-building, durable legislationCrypto policy: “do no harm,” stablecoins first, SEC vs Congress tensionInfrastructure bill “crypto broker” provision and policy-by-Christmas-treeMeme stocks, settlement time (T+2 to T+1), and missed bipartisan reformsNIL in college sports and unintended consequences of state-by-state rulesAmerican dynamism vs authoritarianism; primaries and political incentivesIndustrial policy: CHIPS Act, reshoring, clean steel and long-horizon R&D

In this episode of Acquired, featuring Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal, From NFL to Startup COO to Congressman Regulating Crypto (with Rep. Anthony Gonzalez) explores anthony Gonzalez on crypto regulation, democracy, and American industrial renewal This Acquired interview features Rep. Anthony Gonzalez (R-OH), a former NFL player and startup operator, on what it’s like to legislate at the intersection of finance, technology, and national competitiveness.

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Anthony Gonzalez on crypto regulation, democracy, and American industrial renewal

  1. This Acquired interview features Rep. Anthony Gonzalez (R-OH), a former NFL player and startup operator, on what it’s like to legislate at the intersection of finance, technology, and national competitiveness.
  2. Gonzalez explains how he applied startup tactics to win a congressional race, then used hands-on experimentation in DeFi to better understand crypto’s mechanics before shaping policy ideas—especially around stablecoins.
  3. He recounts the events of January 6 and his vote to impeach President Trump, framing it as a constitutional obligation and a signal to future presidents about democratic guardrails.
  4. Across committees, he argues the U.S. must pursue a dynamic, resilient economy—leading in critical technologies, reshoring key supply chains with allies, and innovating (not moralizing) its way through climate and industrial trade-offs.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

7 ideas

Hands-on use is essential for tech regulation.

Gonzalez argues lawmakers can’t sensibly regulate crypto without trying it. He experimented with DeFi using a small amount of ETH (and donated proceeds), learning more than reading white papers alone—especially around gas fees and tax complexity.

Committees are where most real governing happens.

He emphasizes hearings and committee negotiations as the locus of expertise and bipartisan deal-making. A small “informed minority” on committees often educates and pulls along the broader membership for complex policy areas like crypto.

Durable legislation requires bipartisan and bicameral design from day one.

Gonzalez’s playbook is to identify aligned members by listening closely during hearings, then co-write bills with cross-party partners. Without that, bills may pass the House as messaging and die in the Senate.

Crypto regulation should follow an early-internet ‘do no harm’ posture.

He cites the Clinton-era approach to the internet—tolerate early weirdness, target obvious harms, and avoid suffocating innovation before understanding it. He fears a heavier-handed executive/SEC approach absent clear congressional signals.

Stablecoins are the most actionable ‘first bite’ for crypto policy.

After Terra/Luna, Congress better grasps the difference between fiat-backed and algorithmic stablecoins. He favors defining and regulating ‘payment stablecoins’ (reserves, audits, redemptions, consumer protections) while being cautious/silent on algos until clearer classification emerges.

Legislation often becomes a ‘Christmas tree,’ creating unintended consequences.

He points to the infrastructure bill’s broad ‘broker’ definition that risked sweeping in developers, illustrating how unrelated provisions get added to must-pass bills. Even when intent is narrower (tax compliance), sloppy definitions can threaten whole ecosystems.

Market structure crises can be squandered by partisan packaging.

On GameStop/Robinhood, he says a practical bipartisan fix—shortening settlement from T+2 to T+1—was available, but reforms were bundled with long-standing partisan priorities, reducing odds of Senate passage and leaving core issues unresolved.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

7 quotes

I always say, when I look at my own background, I'm like, 'None of this makes any sense.'

Anthony Gonzalez

If you wanna be knowledgeable in the space, like, you should at least have some sort of feel for it.

Anthony Gonzalez

Committees are where the real work happens.

Anthony Gonzalez

My view is the best legislation is durable, and in order for something to be durable, it needs to be bipartisan, and it should be bicameral.

Anthony Gonzalez

I think we should look to the Clinton administration for how they handled the early internet... 'Do no harm.'

Anthony Gonzalez

I've made two oaths in my entire life... one oath to my wife and I've made an oath to the Constitution.

Anthony Gonzalez

The beauty but also the burden of democracy is it's a participation sport.

Anthony Gonzalez

QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THIS EPISODE

5 questions

Stablecoins: What specific reserve, audit/attestation, and redemption rules would you mandate for a ‘payment stablecoin,’ and who should supervise compliance (bank regulators, a new regime, or something else)?

This Acquired interview features Rep. Anthony Gonzalez (R-OH), a former NFL player and startup operator, on what it’s like to legislate at the intersection of finance, technology, and national competitiveness.

Algorithmic stablecoins: If Congress stays ‘silent’ for now, what concrete triggers (market size, systemic risk metrics, failures) would justify moving from silence to regulation?

Gonzalez explains how he applied startup tactics to win a congressional race, then used hands-on experimentation in DeFi to better understand crypto’s mechanics before shaping policy ideas—especially around stablecoins.

SEC vs Congress: What would an acceptable division of authority look like between the SEC and CFTC for tokens, exchanges, and DeFi protocols—and how do you prevent regulation-by-enforcement?

He recounts the events of January 6 and his vote to impeach President Trump, framing it as a constitutional obligation and a signal to future presidents about democratic guardrails.

Infrastructure bill lessons: If you could rewrite the ‘broker’ language today, what definition would capture true intermediaries without chilling developers and validators?

Across committees, he argues the U.S. must pursue a dynamic, resilient economy—leading in critical technologies, reshoring key supply chains with allies, and innovating (not moralizing) its way through climate and industrial trade-offs.

Practical policymaking: What would it take politically to pass the T+1 settlement fix you mentioned—was it a lack of consensus, or was it purely partisan strategy?

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