All-In Podcast

E42: China's tech crackdown, CRISPR breakthrough, practical climate change solutions & more

Jason Calacanis on china reins in tech, CRISPR cures advance, markets tackle climate.

Jason CalacanishostDavid SackshostChamath PalihapitiyahostDavid Friedberghost
Jul 30, 20211h 17m
COVID-19 Delta variant, vaccine effectiveness, mandates and vaccine passportsPolitical implications of vaccine hesitancy and U.S. midterm electionsChina’s tech crackdown, data control, and de facto nationalization of platformsFinancial decoupling between Chinese and U.S. capital marketsCRISPR and mRNA breakthroughs as a programmable biology platformClimate change solutions: carbon markets, negative emissions, and new battery techInnovation, immigration, and entrepreneurial mindsets versus pessimism and degrowth

In this episode of All-In Podcast, featuring Jason Calacanis and David Sacks, E42: China's tech crackdown, CRISPR breakthrough, practical climate change solutions & more explores china reins in tech, CRISPR cures advance, markets tackle climate The hosts cover the latest COVID-Delta dynamics, emphasizing vaccine effectiveness, the inevitability of mandates/passports via employers and businesses, and how Republican vaccine politics may affect U.S. midterms. They then dive into China’s escalating tech crackdown, arguing it signals a shift toward de facto nationalization, tighter data control, and financial decoupling from U.S. markets. The conversation moves to major CRISPR and mRNA breakthroughs, framing biology as an emerging programmable platform akin to software. They close by discussing market-based climate solutions—carbon pricing, negative emission technologies, and advanced batteries—arguing innovation and entrepreneurship, not degrowth, are the realistic path to solving climate change.

China reins in tech, CRISPR cures advance, markets tackle climate

The hosts cover the latest COVID-Delta dynamics, emphasizing vaccine effectiveness, the inevitability of mandates/passports via employers and businesses, and how Republican vaccine politics may affect U.S. midterms. They then dive into China’s escalating tech crackdown, arguing it signals a shift toward de facto nationalization, tighter data control, and financial decoupling from U.S. markets. The conversation moves to major CRISPR and mRNA breakthroughs, framing biology as an emerging programmable platform akin to software. They close by discussing market-based climate solutions—carbon pricing, negative emission technologies, and advanced batteries—arguing innovation and entrepreneurship, not degrowth, are the realistic path to solving climate change.

Key Takeaways

Vaccine mandates are shifting from theory to practice via employers and businesses.

From Israel’s strict requirements to the NFL, Google, Facebook, Danny Meyer’s restaurants, and likely U. ...

Republican leaders broadly support vaccines but ceded narrative ground to fringe voices.

They note nearly all major GOP governors and leaders are vaccinated and pro-vax, but say early silence allowed anti-vax fringe figures to dominate the conversation, potentially jeopardizing Republican midterm prospects and giving Democrats an unexpected opening.

China is reasserting CCP supremacy over tech, data, and capital flows.

Crackdowns on Ant, Didi, edtech, Tencent music, and IPOs are framed as Beijing redefining the bargain: economic interests are now explicitly subordinate to ‘national interests’ as defined by Xi and the CCP, with data and profits effectively under state control.

Investing in China now carries a permanent political risk discount.

The hosts argue China’s moves don’t end entrepreneurship but fundamentally change risk: foreign and domestic investors must now price in sudden rule changes, forced restructurings or take-privates, and limits on listing in U. ...

Biology is becoming programmable, opening a new innovation frontier.

CRISPR trials that edit genes in vivo and mRNA “logic gate” platforms are likened to AWS and early computing stacks, suggesting future founders will treat many diseases as software-like problems and potentially enable enhancements, not just cures.

Climate change is best addressed with market-based mechanisms and innovation, not austerity.

They champion carbon pricing, cap-and-trade, and future carbon tariffs tied to embedded emissions, arguing these create demand for negative-emission technologies and cleaner production without micromanaging individual consumption or ‘going back to the Stone Age.’

Technological breakthroughs depend on vibrant economies, immigration, and a builder mindset.

Using superconductors, advanced batteries, and personal stories of filmmakers and founders, they contend that open markets, immigrant talent, and a refusal to seek permission are crucial to solving hard problems—from climate to energy to biotech—rather than pessimistic calls to shrink population and consumption.

Notable Quotes

“We are not going to allow any more devolution of power from the Chinese Communist Party into the hands of these internet entrepreneurs.”

Chamath Palihapitiya

“President Xi is saying there’s a new bargain: economic interests in China will be subordinate to national interests. Those national interests are defined by the CCP, and I run the CCP for life.”

David Sacks

“This isn’t free-market regulators having their way. This is a top-down decision to nationalize large parts of the economy, starting with technology.”

Chamath Palihapitiya

“The important thing to focus on is energy production. You’re never going to be able to shrink your consumption enough to eliminate carbon emissions.”

David Sacks

“Stop complaining, start building. These problems are solvable. There is an immigrant in the United States right now that will figure out how to conduct electricity without resistance.”

Chamath Palihapitiya

Questions Answered in This Episode

If China continues tightening control over tech and data, how should global investors and founders adjust their China exposure and strategies over the next decade?

The hosts cover the latest COVID-Delta dynamics, emphasizing vaccine effectiveness, the inevitability of mandates/passports via employers and businesses, and how Republican vaccine politics may affect U. ...

Where should the line be drawn between public health protection and civil liberties when it comes to vaccine mandates and passports?

How might programmable biology and CRISPR shift from treating rare diseases to elective human enhancement, and what ethical frameworks will we need?

What design features would make global carbon markets and future carbon tariffs effective while minimizing fraud and unintended economic harm?

Is innovation alone sufficient to solve climate change, or do we still need some degree of lifestyle and consumption changes alongside technological breakthroughs?

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