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How Kong Was Born: APIs, Hustle, and the Future of AI Infrastructure

Augusto Marietti, CEO and cofounder of Kong, has one of the most remarkable founder stories in Silicon Valley history. In this conversation with Martin Casado, Aghi shares how he went from a garage in Milan to building one of the world’s leading API infrastructure companies, surviving years of rejection, living in the U.S. on $1,000 a month, and raising his first $50K while sleeping on Travis Kalanick’s couch. They talk about the near-death moments that defined Kong’s journey, the seven-year grind before breakout success, and how APIs became the “assembly line of software.” Aghi also explains how Kong evolved into the backbone of modern API and AI connectivity, and why the coming wave of AI agents will make APIs more essential than ever. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:27 The 90-Day Fundraising Mission 02:57 Cold Emailing 400 Investors Overnight 04:49 Negotiating at Travis Kalanick’s House 06:46 Living on $1,000 a Month in San Francisco 09:18 Pivoting to the API Marketplace 11:00 The Seed Round with NEA, Index, and Bezos 14:19 Getting U.S. Visas and Help from Sam Altman 17:14 Series A, CRV, and Proving the Model 19:22 The Pivot That Created Kong 20:59 Launching Open Source and Surviving on a Bridge Round 21:55 Raising the Series B with a16z 23:40 Hitting Growth Milestones and the Car Bet 25:57 Kong’s Breakout and API Leadership 28:52 AI, APIs, and the Future of Connectivity 34:27 Lessons for Founders Stay Updated: If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to like, subscribe, and share with your friends! Resources: Follow Aghi on X: x.com/sonicaghi Follow Martin on X: x.com/martin_casado Find a16z on X: https://x.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Listen to the a16z Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5bC65RDvs3oxnLyqqvkUYX Listen to the a16z Podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a16z-podcast/id842818711 Follow our host: https://x.com/eriktorenberg Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see a16z.com/disclosures.

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CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 1:27

    From a closet full of bananas to an IPO-scale ambition: the Kong origin story

    Martin Casado sets the stage for Augusto “Aghi” Marietti’s journey from early, near-broke survival in San Francisco to building Kong into a category-leading API infrastructure company. They frame Kong’s arc as years of struggle followed by explosive growth, with rituals like the “Founders Award” commemorating the hardship.

  2. 1:27 – 2:57

    The 90-day fundraising countdown on a tourist visa

    Aghi recounts arriving in the U.S. with essentially no money and only 90 days to raise or return to Italy broke. The constraint forces intense urgency and creative, scrappy tactics to get investor attention.

  3. 2:57 – 4:49

    Cold-emailing hundreds of investors overnight (the Stanford list heist)

    After attending Stanford Entrepreneurship Week, Aghi takes the attendee email list and sends ~400+ cold emails through the night. The sheer volume creates a funnel that yields a handful of serious meetings and the first meaningful checks.

  4. 4:49 – 6:46

    The first $51K: YouTube angels and a check written on an air mattress

    A YouTube founding team member, Kevin Donahue, visits and writes an early check under extreme scrappiness. The round becomes three checks (rounded to avoid ‘too many sixes’) totaling about $51K—lifeline money at the time.

  5. 6:46 – 9:18

    Bathroom negotiations at Travis Kalanick’s house (and learning leverage the hard way)

    While staying at Travis Kalanick’s “Jam Pad,” Aghi negotiates a tough convertible note with the YouTube angels. Travis intervenes tactically—literally locking in the meeting dynamic—to prevent the investors from walking and helps Aghi salvage slightly better terms.

  6. 9:18 – 11:00

    Living on $1,000/month for three people in SF: survival operations

    Back in San Francisco without SSNs or stable visas, the founders live on promissory notes and extreme frugality—shared mattresses, Airbnb rooms, and a carb/protein-optimized diet. They work from Starbucks and grind on early product, marketing, and investor outreach.

  7. 11:00 – 14:19

    Pivot #1: from drag-and-drop app builder to an API marketplace

    Realizing the world isn’t ready for composable, drag-and-drop app building, the team rethinks the core insight: APIs are the real economic unit. After a strategic reset (including a “thinking trip” to Hawaii), they relaunch as an API marketplace and gain early traction and press.

  8. 14:19 – 17:14

    A surprisingly stacked seed: NEA, Index, plus Bezos and Schmidt

    The company raises a large-for-the-era seed (~$1.5M) led by NEA with Index involvement, plus high-profile angels. Aghi describes unconventional paths to Bezos (through his family office lawyer) and Schmidt (through co-working proximity and reputation for grinding).

  9. 17:14 – 19:22

    Getting legal: O-1 visas, letters, and Sam Altman’s recommendation

    With seed funding secured, the founders prioritize immigration status to build properly in the U.S. Aghi gets an O-1 visa backed by recommendation letters—including one from Sam Altman—enabling hiring, workspace, and a more stable company foundation.

  10. 19:22 – 20:59

    Series A reality check: raising $6.5M while still proving monetization

    After growing the marketplace but not reaching the revenue scale expected for a strong Series A, the team raises a $6.5M A led by CRV with Index. Even with traction, the underlying marketplace economics and monetization challenges remain unresolved.

  11. 20:59 – 21:55

    Why the API marketplace model broke: power laws, no exclusivity, and quality trust

    Aghi explains the structural issues that kept the API marketplace from becoming “the Airbnb of APIs.” Supply was concentrated among a few major APIs, users could bypass the marketplace, and the marketplace couldn’t control quality—plus thin take rates and AWS margin pressure crushed unit economics.

  12. 21:55 – 23:40

    Pivot #2 that created Kong: open-sourcing the gateway engine (and betting the company)

    With the marketplace failing and money running low, the team realizes their real asset is the internal gateway powering thousands of APIs (auth, rate limiting, routing, logging, etc.). They open-source it as Kong in 2015, surviving on a last-resort insider bridge round to buy time.

  13. 23:40 – 25:57

    Series B with a16z: proving ‘phenomenon’ traction and escaping the death zone

    Even as Kong takes off on GitHub, fundraising is hard because the company is already years old and the breakout is new. Casado describes how repeated real-world signals of usage convinced him, leading to a16z investing just as the company was weeks from running out of money.

  14. 25:57 – 28:52

    Hypergrowth milestones, the ‘car bet,’ and Kong’s breakout leadership

    After the Series B, Kong accelerates dramatically, moving from sub-$1M ARR to major scale and later surpassing $100M. Casado recounts a performance bet to buy Aghi a car after a growth milestone—ultimately fulfilled as a model car due to compliance limits.

  15. 28:52 – 34:27

    AI, agents, MCP, and the next connectivity layer: APIs as the substrate

    Aghi argues AI will shift internet consumption from human UI to machine-to-machine API calls. Kong’s thesis becomes ‘unified API and AI connectivity’—governing classic API traffic, LLM/token traffic, and emerging protocols like MCP with the same control-plane principles (auth, routing, rate limiting, governance).

  16. 34:27 – 37:29

    Founder lessons from a decade-long arc: pick durable trends, don’t die, keep burn low

    Closing out, Aghi emphasizes endurance and trend selection: everything takes longer than expected, so choose a long-lived wave and commit fully. He frames persistence as non-negotiable—quitting was never an option—and highlights burn discipline as a survival prerequisite.

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