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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Debating non-consensus venture investing, market efficiency, pricing, and survival dynamics
- Martín Casado argues “non-consensus” is dangerous when it means ignoring how the VC market will fund (or not fund) a company, because startups depend on follow-on capital and markets are often more efficient than investors admit.
- Leo Polovets agrees consensus eventually matters but contends many of his best seed investments began as non-consensus raises, where uncertainty and lack of proof points kept valuations low before later inflecting into consensus rounds.
- They distinguish between a company being “hard to fund” versus truly non-consensus, emphasizing that many supposed non-consensus winners had elite founders, top investors, and expensive rounds—suggesting the market recognized quality earlier than anecdotes imply.
- The group explores failure modes on both ends: “hot” rounds can lead to overfunding and poor discipline (“indigestion”), while unfashionable sectors can be unfairly starved during hype cycles (e.g., AI craze crowding out traditional infra).
- They propose analyzing data (cohorting by relative pricing and return contribution) to test whether the bulk of venture returns come from companies that were priced “high” at the time, and how fund size/stage constraints shape the feasibility of non-consensus strategies.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasNon-consensus isn’t inherently alpha; being blind to consensus is risk.
Casado’s core point is not “do consensus deals,” but that founders and investors must anticipate how later investors will perceive the company, since survival often depends on the next financing.
A “tough raise” is not proof a company was truly non-consensus.
They argue many alleged non-consensus winners (e.g., repeat founders, YC companies, elite networks) were still broadly legible to the venture ecosystem and often priced above median across their lifecycle.
Hot rounds can still be good deals if outcomes have expanded dramatically.
If decacorns and $100B+ outcomes are more common than in prior eras, paying up may still generate strong multiples—especially when “being in the winner” matters more than entry price.
Overfunding is a common startup killer—“indigestion” beats “starvation.”
Both note that easy money can create sloppy execution and unrealistic growth assumptions; 2021-style mega-round cohorts are hypothesized to be large capital wipeouts.
Sector fashion can overpower fundamentals in the short run.
Polovets’ examples (e-commerce cycles; defense repricing after geopolitical events; humanoids hype) illustrate that valuations and capital availability swing even when fundamentals change slowly.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesIt's dangerous to do non-consensus investing. Like, that's a dangerous idea. If you're alone in your view, you may just be missing something.
— Martín Casado
Eventually you have to get to consensus. If you're dependent on capital markets, it's very hard to, to keep the company alive if nobody wants to fund it.
— Leo Polovets
Most companies fail from indigestion, not starvation.
— Martín Casado
The kinda the worst form of consensus I've seen is like, "Oh, Sequoia Andreessen did this round, like let me just do a two X markup in two weeks 'cause I wanna be in the same company."
— Leo Polovets
I really believe the best companies themselves are non-consensus to customers. I just think that the investing market is, is, is, is different than that.
— Martín Casado
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SPEAKERS
Martín Casado
guestGeneral partner at a16z focused on infrastructure; co-founder of Nicira (acquired by VMware) and Stanford PhD.
Leo Polovets
guestVenture capitalist and managing partner at Susa Ventures, investing primarily at seed and early stages.
Erik Torenberg
hostPartner at a16z and podcast host/moderator covering technology and venture capital.
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