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Acquired Live at Radio City Music Hall (Presented by J.P. Morgan)

It’s finally here! Today we are releasing Acquired’s first “concert film” — the full video recording of our Radio City live show from this summer with Jamie Dimon, Andrew Ross Sorkin, New York Times CEO Meredith Kopit Levien, Barry Diller, and cameos from around the Acquired Cinematic Universe including Christina Cacioppo, Ben Clymer, and Howard Schultz. *Sponsors:* - Live Show Presented By: J.P. Morgan: https://bit.ly/acquiredJPMPs14 - Shopify: https://bit.ly/ShopifyACQ25 - ServiceNow: https://bit.ly/acquiredsn *More Acquired:* - Get email updates: https://www.acquired.fm/email and vote on future episodes! - Join the Slack: http://acquired.fm/slack - ACQ Merch Store: https://www.acquired.fm/store 0:00 Intro and Welcome 4:50 Jamie Dimon 57:17 Intermission 58:30 Andrew Ross Sorkin 1:00:36 Meredith Kopit Levien 1:20:15 Acquired Wordle 1:22:45 Trivia with the Audience 1:25:20 Barry Diller 1:56:32 Closing, band, and curtain call 1:58:47 Post-Credits Sequence _Note: Acquired hosts and guests may hold assets discussed in this episode. This podcast is not investment advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. You should do your own research and make your own independent decisions when considering any financial transactions._

Ben GilberthostDavid RosenthalhostJamie DimonguestMeredith Kopit LevienguestBarry Dillerguest
Nov 5, 20251h 59mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:02 – 1:55

    Backstage banter and the leap from small live shows to Radio City

    Ben and David open with a playful pre-show conversation about selling out Radio City without revealing the format or guests. They reminisce about early, scrappy live events and set the tone: this is “Broadway” Acquired.

    • Show mystery: selling out without announcing what’s happening
    • Nostalgia for early live events (GeekWire, WeWork) and how far the show has come
    • New York as the ‘center of everything’ vibe-setting
    • Entering ‘theater mode’—Acquired as a staged production
  2. 1:55 – 6:06

    Act One setup: three iconic CEO conversations, starting with Jamie Dimon

    The hosts officially welcome the audience and reveal the show’s structure: two acts with an intermission, culminating in a new, Radio City–tailored format. They introduce the first major conversation: a 20-year journey of JPMorgan Chase with its CEO, Jamie Dimon.

    • Official welcome and ‘leveling up’ the stage production
    • Two-act structure: serious deep conversation, then a more playful Act Two
    • Premise: three conversations with iconic NYC company CEOs
    • Framing Jamie Dimon as uniquely influential among active U.S. CEOs
  3. 6:06 – 10:20

    Dimon’s 1998 firing from Citi and rebuilding from scratch

    Dimon recounts the surprise and emotional reality of being fired from Citigroup when he was widely seen as the heir apparent. The segment explores his mindset, family reactions, and his ability to separate self-worth from net worth.

    • Citigroup-era conglomerate model and Dimon’s disagreement about ‘skinning down’
    • The day he was asked to resign—how it happened and what he did next
    • Family moments: kids’ reactions and the ‘wake’ feeling that night
    • Core identity: ‘net worth, not self-worth’
  4. 10:20 – 15:05

    Choosing Bank One: moving to Chicago and betting half his net worth

    After exploring many paths—including a near alternate-universe Amazon role—Dimon chooses to run troubled Bank One. He explains why leadership control, cultural fit, and long-term commitment mattered more than glamour, then shocks with his massive personal stock purchase to signal alignment.

    • Exploration period: Amazon, AIG, other banks, and rejecting subprime firms
    • Why Bank One: ‘my habitat’ and the chance to truly run the company
    • Relocation hardship and learning to embrace Chicago
    • Alignment signal: buying ~$60M of stock and committing ‘captain of the ship’
  5. 15:05 – 19:27

    Fixing Bank One: operational mess, board dysfunction, and risk culture overhaul

    Dimon describes arriving to a fragmented bank with multiple systems, brands, and internal politics. He details his hands-on approach—starting with cultural signals and moving quickly into rigorous credit review, reserves, stress tests, and balance sheet de-risking.

    • Bank One’s dysfunction: systems sprawl, collapsing businesses, losing accounts
    • Board issues: 21 directors, tribal factions, governance challenges
    • Culture moments: ‘You do now’ coffee story and truth-telling mandate
    • Risk discipline: review every loan, increase reserves, sell/hedge exposures
  6. 19:27 – 25:22

    ‘Don’t blow up’: fortress balance sheet and fat-tail stress testing philosophy

    The conversation widens into Dimon’s governing philosophy: risk isn’t eliminated, it’s understood, priced, and survivable in worst-case scenarios. He emphasizes conservative accounting, limiting leverage, and preparing for repeated ‘this time is different’ cycles.

    • History as teacher: repeated market crashes and systemic failures
    • Stress testing to ‘worst ever’ (fat tails), not optimistic scenarios
    • Leverage and aggressive accounting as existential threats in banking
    • Trust as an asset: avoiding losses that trigger runs and reputational damage
  7. 25:22 – 29:00

    The 2004 JPMorgan Chase merger: logic first, execution always

    Dimon explains the strategic rationale behind merging Bank One with JPMorgan Chase and clarifies how much of today’s JPMorgan is Bank One DNA. He downplays the brand as primary deal value, prioritizing business fit, integration ability, and price.

    • ‘Merger of equals’ reality and Dimon’s effective control structure
    • Why JPMorgan made sense: complementary businesses and cost saves
    • Brand as ‘Tiffany name’—valuable but secondary to strategy and execution
    • A warning against deals before ‘earning the right’ via operational excellence
  8. 29:00 – 32:33

    2006–2008: pulling back from subprime and redesigning incentives

    Dimon describes seeing early cracks and pulling JPMorgan back from risk-taking even while Wall Street was ‘go, go, go.’ A central lever: eliminating compensation structures and side deals that rewarded excessive risk and misaligned behavior.

    • Early warning signs: quants, subprime deterioration, leverage ramp
    • Stockpiling liquidity and keeping leverage lower than peers
    • Comp reform: removing profit pools, side deals, and narrow product incentives
    • Accepting talent loss as the price of a safer culture
  9. 32:33 – 38:28

    Bear Stearns rescue weekend: system stability vs. shareholder pain

    Dimon recounts the frantic Bear Stearns phone call on his birthday and the emergency coordination with the Fed and Treasury. He outlines compressed due diligence, the controversial purchase price, and the long-tail consequences—including government lawsuits that shaped his view of future interventions.

    • The ‘need $30B tonight’ call and the race to get Bear to the weekend
    • Creative structure: Fed lending mechanics using Bear collateral
    • Rapid-fire due diligence across assets, derivatives, lawsuits, HR
    • Aftermath: mortgage litigation and ‘I wouldn’t trust the government again’ tension
  10. 38:28 – 47:58

    WaMu and the 2023 bank failures: learning, acting fast, and buying confidence

    Dimon contrasts Bear with WaMu as a cleaner, strategically valuable deal and describes raising extra equity out of caution. He then connects those crisis muscles to 2023’s SVB/First Republic failures—highlighting concentrated deposits, interest-rate risk, and how JPMorgan stabilized First Republic quickly.

    • WaMu rationale: geographic expansion and buying at a deep discount to book
    • Conservative play: raising $11B equity even if not strictly needed
    • SVB/First Republic: concentrated deposits, HTM accounting masking rate risk
    • Post-acquisition playbook: hedge exposures fast and integrate for stability
  11. 47:58 – 57:31

    Why JPMorgan separated from the pack: integrated strategy, efficiency, and purpose

    Dimon summarizes the JPMorgan ‘system’—business lines that feed each other, rigorous risk culture, long-term reinvestment, and a people-first operating ethos. He closes with what keeps him working: purpose shaped by family, country, and a lifelong ethic of effort and service.

    • Strategy coherence: no ‘hobbies,’ only businesses that fit and reinforce
    • Reinvestment flywheel: people, branches, technology; consistency through cycles
    • Efficiency ratio advantage and the discipline to avoid short-term margin boosts
    • Personal motivation: purpose, patriotism, and continued energy to contribute
  12. 57:31 – 1:01:22

    Intermission and Act Two desk format: Andrew Ross Sorkin’s surprise cameo

    The show shifts into a late-night talk show setup with Andrew Ross Sorkin joining at the desk. They riff on New York Times trivia before teeing up the next CEO guest from The New York Times Company.

    • Intermission ads and reset into an on-stage desk format
    • Sorkin’s ‘DealBook meets Squawk Box meets Acquired’ framing
    • Rapid-fire New York Times trivia game with Ben and David
    • Transition setup for Meredith Kopit Levien’s entrance
  13. 1:01:22 – 1:09:23

    Meredith Kopit Levien on NYT’s subscription engine and product expansion

    Meredith shares the Times’ growth from ~5M to nearly 12M subscribers and the shift from print dominance to a digital-first portfolio. She explains the ‘essential subscription’ strategy and why expansions like Wirecutter, The Athletic, and Wordle reinforce the bundle.

    • Digital scale: 50–100M weekly users, 20M podcast/newsletter audience
    • Print still meaningful (~25%) and expected to persist
    • Strategic pillars: best news destination + market-leading lifestyle products + bundle
    • Acquisition thesis: big markets, unique NYT advantage, cross-product discovery
  14. 1:09:23 – 1:20:15

    NYT and AI: human journalism, tool leverage, and the OpenAI lawsuit

    The conversation turns to AI’s dual role: a force multiplier for accessibility and reporting, but also a threat when models train on content without fair value exchange. Meredith outlines why the Times sued OpenAI/Microsoft and how partnerships (e.g., Amazon) can work when terms are fair and controlled.

    • Journalism as ‘by humans, for humans’—AI can’t replace frontline reporting
    • AI benefits: accessibility (audio), document analysis, workflow augmentation
    • Lawsuit rationale: fair value exchange for content and broader creator/IP stakes
    • Partnership model: deals that preserve control and sustainable economics
  15. 1:20:15 – 1:25:31

    Live Wordle at Radio City and Acquired trivia with audience participation

    In a playful live segment, Meredith plays a custom Acquired-themed Wordle on the big screen with hints from the hosts. The show then pivots to audience trivia about Acquired’s most-listened episode—culminating in a Howard Schultz reveal and a nod to Starbucks’ download record.

    • Custom Wordle created by NYT team; Meredith’s on-stage solving attempt
    • Hints reveal an Acquired-canonical founder last name
    • Audience trivia with Christina Cacioppo and Ben Clymer
    • Howard Schultz cameo; Starbucks episode cited as biggest download
  16. 1:25:31 – 1:53:22

    Barry Diller’s career arc: old Hollywood, ABC/Paramount, Fox, and the QVC epiphany

    Barry Diller traces an extraordinary career spanning Hollywood’s studio era, ABC’s high-responsibility culture, Paramount’s hit-making run, and building Fox with Rupert Murdoch. He then explains how discovering QVC’s screen-based commerce foreshadowed the internet and set up IAC’s decades of tech-company building.

    • Learning by immersion: reading William Morris’s entire file room
    • ABC as ‘candy store’: responsibility for the taking; Movie of the Week startup model
    • Paramount turnaround via development pipeline (not just agent packages)
    • QVC revelation: screens as interactive commerce, priming him for the internet era
  17. 1:53:22 – 1:59:41

    Media vs tech today, parting advice, and curtain call

    Diller argues Netflix redefined the entertainment business model and tech’s scale now dominates media. The hosts wrap the night with thanks to guests, sponsors, crew, and a brief post-show exchange that teases the lingering question of Dimon’s political future.

    • Streaming era shift: Netflix as the dominant winner; different economics than ‘hit-making’
    • Tech platforms’ resource advantage and media as subscription/service business
    • Closing gratitude to guests, participants, sponsors, and production team
    • Post-show banter and the ‘will Dimon run for president?’ tease

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