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Benchmark’s Mitch Lasky and Blake Robbins on The Art of Business in Gaming

We sit down Benchmark’s legendary gaming investors Mitch Lasky and Blake Robbins (now also of the excellent Gamecraft podcast fame) to discuss the history and future of gaming business models. This episode is the perfect bookend to our Nintendo/Sega gaming series this season on Acquired — no one is more qualified than Mitch and Blake to breakdown how the business side of the industry has evolved so radically from the Periscope quarter-drop days to the forever games and platform based publishers of today. Regardless if you’re a gamer, understanding the incredible innovation that’s taken place over the past two decades in gaming and what it portends for other industries is critical for any founder and investor to understand. Tune in! ACQ2 Show + LP Program: Subscribe to our interview show, ACQ2! https://pod.link/acquiredlp Become an LP and support the show. Help us pick episodes, Zoom calls and more! https://acquired.fm/lp Sponsors: Thanks to our fantastic partners, any member of the Acquired community can now get: All of your product growth powered by Statsig https://bit.ly/statsigacquired Up to 10% off your first year of business insurance with Vouch https://bit.ly/acquired-vouch A free trial of PitchBook + links to research reports! https://bit.ly/acquiredpitchbook Links: The Gamecraft Podcast https://www.gamecraftpod.com Mitch and Blake on Twitter https://twitter.com/mitchlasky https://twitter.com/blakeir The Genius of the System https://www.amazon.com/Genius-System-Hollywood-Filmmaking-Studio/dp/0816670102 Mitch’s old “Investing in Content” blog post https://web.archive.org/web/20131013193226/http://mitchlasky.biz/investing-in-content/ That Game Company and Sky https://thatgamecompany.com https://thatgamecompany.com/sky/ Riot and the League of Legends dota-allstars.com growth hack https://www.hotspawn.com/dota2/guides/dota-allstars-com Note: Acquired hosts and guests may hold assets discussed in this episode. This podcast is not investment advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. You should do your own research and make your own independent decisions when considering any financial transactions.

Mitch LaskyguestDavid RosenthalhostBen GilberthostBlake Robbinsguest
Apr 26, 20232h 15mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Why Acquired trusts Mitch: the “you know one thing, doubt the rest” bias

    Mitch opens by praising Acquired’s accuracy, referencing the classic phenomenon where people dismiss reporting on what they personally know but trust everything else. He says Acquired breaks that pattern by telling stories “as close to true as true exists,” setting a high-trust tone for the conversation.

  2. Why Mitch & Blake made Gamecraft: business models shape creativity

    The hosts introduce Mitch Lasky and Blake Robbins and their new podcast Gamecraft. Mitch explains he wanted to elevate the business-side history of games—like Thomas Schatz did for film—arguing creative outcomes are constrained and enabled by business models.

  3. From book manuscript to podcast (and the Pushkin rejection)

    Mitch details writing a 200-page manuscript and being told “nobody reads books,” leading him to reformat the work for audio. A dinner with Malcolm Gladwell pushes him toward podcasting; Pushkin rejects the pitch as too niche, prompting Mitch to build it independently with Blake.

  4. Casual gaming becomes the majority (even if players don’t call themselves gamers)

    The discussion reframes gaming as a universal human activity, not a niche for teenage boys. Mitch shares early signals of mass-market casual adoption (Barbie, Hasbro titles, then mobile), and describes recognizing ubiquity during Jamdat when everyday people played their games.

  5. Gamecraft’s “eight lenses”: free-to-play, distribution, economies, forever games

    Mitch summarizes Gamecraft’s topical (not strictly chronological) structure: eight episodes retelling modern gaming history through different business-model lenses. He highlights free-to-play as a revolution comparable to TV’s impact on film and previews other themes like Steam-driven distribution and game economies.

  6. Forever games vs. franchises: durability was always there, but packaged differently

    Mitch distinguishes modern “forever games” from older durability patterns like annualized franchises (FIFA, Call of Duty) and evergreen characters (Nintendo). The key shift is persistence without requiring a new disc purchase, turning continuity into a live, evolving product rather than sequels.

  7. Platform-based publishers: Steam’s origin story and why it ate PC distribution

    Mitch recounts Steam beginning as Valve’s updater/anti-piracy tool shipped on discs, then accreting community, store, and mod features over years. The conversation explains how demand aggregation plus distribution leverage created a dominant platform other publishers still depend on—even Microsoft’s Phil Spencer.

  8. Can anyone break in now? Epic, Nintendo’s app-store opportunity, and Game Pass’s pivot

    The group debates whether platform power is ossifying and what comes next. They argue Epic’s store hasn’t dented Steam, speculate Nintendo may finally “crack” third-party monetization via a more open app-store posture, and note Game Pass changes the model from demand aggregation to supply aggregation (content buying).

  9. Cloud gaming: why it failed early and why demand is different now

    Mitch explains early cloud gaming (Gaikai/OnLive era) faced a market mismatch: the streamable games were wanted by players who already owned capable hardware. Today’s broader audience (Fortnite-era cohorts and “casual core” players) plus better bandwidth and economics make streaming far more viable, especially for single-player.

  10. Distribution is king: why Mitch avoids ‘studio bets’ and what counts as leverage

    Mitch lays out a consistent investing philosophy: fund businesses with durable distribution advantages, not “make a great game and pray.” Examples include Riot’s built-in Dota audience and growth hacks, and the difficulty of turning even gamer-native networks (Discord) into publishers.

  11. Case study: Thatgamecompany and the ‘digital theme park’ vision for Sky

    Mitch explains Thatgamecompany as a rare exception: an auteur-led studio moving toward a platform-like strategy, framed by founder Jenova Chen as a “digital theme park.” He shares the legendary pitch about expanding games’ emotional range and how the company shifted from Journey-like outcomes to building the forever game Sky.

  12. Reinvestment flywheel: organic growth, live ops costs, and the economics of forever games

    They unpack how successful games reinvest profits: avoid paid UA where possible, expand to adjacent platforms, and pour resources into live ops, balancing, and content cadence. Mitch notes live ops spend can match or exceed original development budgets annually, as games become ongoing services.

  13. Esports: mostly marketing, sometimes a brand—plus the Overwatch League cautionary tale

    Blake (with esports operating experience) and Mitch agree esports primarily accrues value to the underlying game by sustaining engagement and monetization. They discuss different league models (publisher-run franchises vs. Valve-style “majors”), why many team orgs struggle financially, and why certain games are better suited for long-lived competitive ecosystems.

  14. Web3 gaming: skepticism, real use cases, and the speculator problem

    Mitch describes his initial resistance to crypto ‘tourism’ producing scammy, low-quality games, but sees hope as experienced game creators adopt the tech thoughtfully. They discuss how Web3 should mostly enhance proven models, the dangers of pay-to-win and speculation, and analogs like Roblox and Counter-Strike’s skin economy (already quasi-Web3).

  15. Nintendo follow-ups: Utah computer graphics lineage and arcades’ massive historical scale

    Mitch adds context to Acquired’s Nintendo/Atari research, spotlighting Evans & Sutherland and the University of Utah’s computer graphics diaspora (Catmull, Kay, Warnock, Jim Clark). They also revisit how enormous and durable arcade economics were, shaping console makers’ incentives and strategic fear of cannibalization.

  16. Closing: personal gaming origins, stigma, AI’s next frontiers, and Gamecraft’s future

    They trade personal origin stories (Mitch’s arcade roots and Amiga; Blake’s N64-to-Halo/Xbox Live) and discuss lingering stigma around games as ‘toys’ or ‘not real business.’ Mitch outlines four AI opportunity zones—art pipeline, QA/balancing, live ops personalization, and AI-assisted dungeon mastering—then they consider how to continue Gamecraft without turning it into a weekly job.

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