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E103: Tech layoffs surge, big tech freezes hiring, optimizing for profits, election preview & more

(0:00) Jason's new brand deal (1:18) Bestie updates (9:12) "Ligma/Johnson" blunder outside of Twitter HQ (15:38) Surge of tech layoffs at Twitter, Stripe, Lyft, Opendoor, Chime and others; preparing for a longer downturn than originally anticipated (35:28) Macro trends, big tech freezes hiring, how founders can think about the last 3 years and the next 3 years (54:04) Midterm election preview, understanding the shift toward populism (1:17:32) Science corner: Understanding Meta's AlphaFold competitor Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588538640401018880 https://twitter.com/yoyoel/status/1587230924554399744 https://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1587158734689767425 https://twitter.com/TechBroDrip/status/1586370087287521280 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586149451348910081 https://layoffs.fyi https://twitter.com/Post_Market/status/1577793695734284289 https://twitter.com/bullfightcap/status/1588311417052012544 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBkzm4a7iY4 https://finra-markets.morningstar.com/BondCenter/BondDetail.jsp?ticker=C996374&symbol=COIN5259271 https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/susan-jones/622-labor-force-participation-declines-3rd-straight-month https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART https://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/employment-research/are-economists-underestimating-the-labor-force-participation-rate https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63471725 https://www.google.com/finance https://twitter.com/bgurley/status/1554589241560010753 https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/11/02/apple-is-freezing-hiring-cutting-budgets-claims-new-report https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/02/politics/cnn-poll-democrats-midterm-elections/index.html https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/covid-response-forgiveness/671879 https://www.axios.com/2022/11/04/trump-presidential-run-2024-announcement https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/ https://www.joshbarro.com/p/the-problem-with-pro-democracy-rhetoric https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCSSTUS1&f=M https://about.fb.com/news/2022/11/ai-protein-research-could-drive-progress-in-medicine-clean-energy #allin #tech #news

Chamath PalihapitiyahostJason CalacanishostDavid Friedberghost
Nov 4, 20221h 28mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Tech layoffs, Twitter turmoil, media failures, recession fears, biotech breakthroughs

  1. The hosts discuss their informal advisory roles at Twitter under Elon Musk, pushing back on reports of a spike in hate speech and arguing activist groups and media are manufacturing a crisis to pressure advertisers. They broaden this into a critique of mainstream journalism, using the fake ‘Ligma Johnson’ Twitter layoff prank as an example of narrative-driven, poorly fact-checked reporting, and debate bylines, Substack, and citizen journalism.
  2. A major portion of the conversation centers on accelerating tech layoffs, hiring freezes, and a sharp market pivot from growth-at-all-costs to profitability in a high-interest-rate environment; they predict deep restructurings, private equity buyouts, and a wave of companies going private or dying. They urge founders to cut fast and deep, re-orient around cash flow, and mentally reset valuations to today’s reality, not 2021 highs.
  3. They then preview the U.S. midterm elections, expecting a Republican ‘wave’ driven by economic dissatisfaction, criticizing Biden’s messaging on ‘democracy’ instead of inflation, crime, and schooling, and calling for COVID policy investigations rather than ‘pandemic amnesty.’
  4. The episode closes with a science segment on Meta’s large-scale protein-structure prediction from environmental DNA (metagenomes), explaining how AI and cheap compute unlock a vast universe of natural proteins that could power new drugs, fertilizers, materials, and industrial applications.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

In a high-rate world, near-term cash flow matters far more than distant growth.

With Fed funds potentially around 5% and required returns 500+ bps above that, investors can earn 4–10% in T-bills or quality bonds; this makes unprofitable hyper-growth far less attractive and forces tech companies to prioritize profitability and cash generation today.

Founders should cut once, cut deep, and get to ‘default alive’ as fast as possible.

Repeated 10–13% RIFs destroy morale and still may not ensure survival; the hosts argue Elon’s rumored deep cuts at Twitter will reset expectations, and that decisive restructuring to reach cashflow breakeven is better than clinging to headcount built for the 2021 bubble.

Valuations from 2020–2021 are largely irrelevant; companies must re-price themselves to reality.

Many unicorns have raised more money than they are currently worth, rendering employee options effectively worthless; boards and founders need to accept lower market-clearing valuations, bring in fresh equity, and stop using complex converts to protect egos.

Media incentives favor speed and narrative fit over verification, eroding trust.

The ‘Ligma Johnson’ prank and viral but false stories (e.g., ivermectin ER overloads) illustrate how outlets amplify anything that fits their priors, with gutted fact-checking and live-TV pressure; this fuels demand for Substack-style independent voices and no-byline institutional models.

The coming recession is likely deeper and longer than many operators are planning for.

Portfolio data show most startups are missing forecasts and reforecasting; hosts expect a ‘real’ recession with rising unemployment, tighter capital, and possibly two-plus years of tough conditions, urging conservative planning through 2024–2025 rather than hopeful short-term bets.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Rates will probably be higher than all of you think, and they’ll be higher for longer than all of you want.

Chamath Palihapitiya

It is way better now to grow at 20% and be profitable than it is to grow at 100% and burn money.

Chamath Palihapitiya

This feels to me like the economy’s headed off a cliff right now.

David Sacks

They didn’t figure it out because they didn’t want to, because it fit their narrative, so they don’t fact-check things that fit their narrative.

David Friedberg (paraphrasing and agreeing with Sacks/Chamath on media behavior)

We’re not going to give you amnesty. No, full investigation.

Jason Calacanis (on ‘pandemic amnesty’ calls around COVID policy)

Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover, bot attacks, and advertiser boycottsMedia incentives, fact-checking failures, and citizen vs. legacy journalismTech layoffs, hiring freezes, and the shift from growth to profitabilityInterest rates, cost of capital, recession risk, and funding dynamicsFounder playbooks: RIF strategy, valuation resets, and survival planningU.S. midterm elections, populism, and accountability for COVID-era policyAI-driven protein structure prediction, metagenomics, and biotech applications

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