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E118: AI FOMO frenzy, macro update, Fox vs Dominion, US vs China & more with Brad Gerstner

(0:00) Bestie intros! (6:47) The VC FOMO frenzy in AI (25:22) Current LP mindset, VCs leaving boards, startup cram downs and mark downs (37:23) Macro update: inflation not done, weaker earnings, interest rates (52:01) Marc Benioff channels his inner Elon Musk, the stock-based compensation boom (1:11:59) Fox News facing defamation lawsuit over false election fraud claims, TikTok ban heats up, competition with China (1:34:33) Ukraine update: China's peace proposal, US strategy (1:46:34) Harvard legacy admissions, Draymond Green on Black History Month (1:50:01) Stripe chart errata, bestie wrap! Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg https://twitter.com/altcap Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-i-stood-up-to-disney-florida-woke-corporatism-seaworld-universal-esg-parents-choice-education-defa2506 https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-maher-shares-definition-of-woke-during-jake-tapper-cnn-interview https://www.economist.com/business/2023/02/28/investors-are-going-nuts-for-chatgpt-ish-artificial-intelligence https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/doug-leone-lessons-from-a-titan/id1154105909?i=1000602027979 https://openai.com/blog/introducing-chatgpt-and-whisper-apis https://twitter.com/heykahn/status/1628453782177865728 https://www.ft.com/content/21420ce2-92a1-43a0-a153-04ac7c872466 https://www.wsj.com/articles/instacart-sees-revenue-profit-boost-ahead-of-public-listing-1d7891d https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/21023.jpeg https://www.barrons.com/articles/home-prices-dropping-redfin-fac43ede https://www.google.com/finance/quote/CRM:NYSE https://s23.q4cdn.com/574569502/files/doc_financials/2023/q4/CRM-Q4-FY23-Earnings-Press-Release-w-financials.pdf https://seekingalpha.com/article/4583622-salesforce-inc-crm-q4-2023-earnings-call-transcript https://twitter.com/altcap/status/1631361678582611970 https://www.investopedia.com/articles/06/fas123r.asp https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-deposition-rupert-murdoch-says-fox-news-hosts-endorsed-false-2020-election-claims-c9348fc0 https://www.reuters.com/technology/tiktok-develop-parental-control-tool-block-certain-videos-2023-03-01 https://www.reuters.com/technology/white-house-gives-agencies-30-days-impose-federal-device-tiktok-ban-2023-02-27 https://www.wsj.com/articles/house-committee-lays-out-case-for-china-threat-ad62c611 https://www.euronews.com/2023/02/27/chinas-peace-plan-russia-says-no-conditions-for-peaceful-solution-or-ukraine-for-now https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-war-depleting-u-s-ammunition-stockpiles-sparking-pentagon-concern-11661792188 https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1496886759665586177 https://twitter.com/deloreshandy/status/1629516350602264582 https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w26316/w26316.pdf https://www.tmz.com/2023/03/01/draymond-green-calls-end-black-history-month-celebrate-all-year https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-03-02/how-former-fugee-pras-michel-got-involved-in-1mdb-scandal-big-take https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/03/06/how-the-biggest-fraud-in-german-history-unravelled #allin #tech #news

Chamath PalihapitiyahostJason CalacanishostDavid FriedberghostBrad GerstnerguestGuestguest
Mar 2, 20231h 56mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

AI gold rush, higher rates, layoffs, and China-US power struggle

  1. The episode centers on the generative AI funding boom, with the hosts and guest Brad Gerstner arguing it’s a true platform shift comparable to the internet and mobile, but rife with short‑term FOMO, overfunding, and future wipeouts.
  2. They connect AI and venture dynamics to a shifting macro environment: higher-for-longer interest rates, pressure on venture returns, down rounds, stock-based compensation excesses, and big-tech layoffs driven by a newfound focus on efficiency.
  3. The discussion broadens into media responsibility (Fox vs. Dominion and defamation law), US–China great power competition (TikTok, CHIPS Act, supply chains), and geopolitical strategy around Ukraine, reflecting rising bipartisan hawkishness on China.
  4. Cultural sidebars include Draymond Green’s critique of Black History Month, legacy admissions at elite universities, and a light-touch correction on previous Stripe analysis, all framed within how power, incentives, and narratives shape outcomes.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

AI is a real platform shift, but early-stage FOMO will torch a lot of capital.

Gerstner, Chamath, and Sacks agree generative AI is as big as internet or mobile, yet note that with hundreds of startups and high deployment pressure on VCs, most AI companies funded in this wave are unlikely to produce durable value.

Higher-for-longer interest rates raise the bar for venture and force discipline.

With short-term instruments yielding ~5–6%+, LPs can earn solid returns with little risk, implying VCs must target 20%+ returns, be far more selective, and accept that weak funds and overvalued 2021 vintages will get squeezed.

In AI, infrastructure, custom silicon, and unique data (“white truffles”) may capture more value than generic models.

Chamath argues foundation models are becoming commoditized and capped in upside; the more durable moats likely sit in chips, cloud-scale compute, and proprietary datasets that materially improve model performance.

Big tech is pivoting from headcount growth to efficiency, and Elon’s Twitter playbook accelerated that shift.

Meta and Salesforce are cited as examples of CEOs discovering that layoffs, de-layering, and tighter stock-based compensation can speed execution and boost morale, inspiring others to “unleash their inner Elon” within public-market constraints.

Stock-based compensation has become a hidden, massive shareholder tax that enabled bloat.

Gerstner explains how excluding SBC from “adjusted EBITDA” masked true costs, fueled over-hiring, and diluted shareholders; he calls for comp committees to tie incentives to free cash flow per share and cap dilution around 0.5% annually.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

AI is the next platform shift, in the same way that mobile was the one before, internet was the one before.

Doug Leone (quoted by Jason Calacanis)

Rates are gonna be higher than we like and they’ll stay here longer than we want.

Chamath Palihapitiya

This has been the greatest grift in the history of Silicon Valley, for sure.

Chamath Palihapitiya, on excess stock-based compensation

The truth is founder friendly by definition.

Brad Gerstner

Teach my history from January 1st to December 31st. And then do it again. And then again. And then again.

Draymond Green, on Black history

Generative AI boom, platform shift, and venture capital FOMOInterest rates, inflation, and implications for private and public market investingDown rounds, cramdowns, stock-based compensation, and big-tech efficiency drivesOpenAI’s business model, LLM commoditization, and where value will accrue in AIFox vs. Dominion, defamation standards, and media accountabilityUS–China great power competition, TikTok, CHIPS Act, and decouplingUkraine war, US foreign policy strategy, and China’s peace maneuver

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