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E121: Macro update, Fed hike, CRE debt bubble, Balaji's Bitcoin bet, TikTok's endgame & more

(0:00) Bestie intro! (2:58) Fed hikes 25 bps (32:35) Balaji bets on Bitcoin $1M, predictions for hyperinflation, crypto crackdown in the US (54:27) Should the commercial real estate sector receive a similar treatment as regional banks? Math and solutions on 100% FDIC insurance (1:16:04) TikTok CEO grilled by US lawmakers: What is TikTok's endgame in the US? (1:25:46) Relativity Space shoutout and bestie wrap! Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.wsj.com/articles/fed-raises-rates-but-nods-to-greater-uncertainty-after-banking-stress-6ae9316f https://twitter.com/scottrechler/status/1638534824808923136 https://www.wsj.com/articles/commercial-property-debt-creates-more-bank-worries-b36184ba https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1636928718173003776 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WGS10YR https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4387676 https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Pinterest-terminate-SF-office-lease-88-Bluxome-15525421.php https://twitter.com/boazweinstein/status/1638964105917890561 https://twitter.com/mr_derivatives/status/1638772846326583296 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1638957986138959873 https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1636797265317867520 https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1222921758375927808 https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3911036-how-to-escape-the-trap-of-the-clean-debt-ceiling-vote https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/22/coinbase-warned-by-sec-of-potential-securities-charges.html https://www.piratewires.com/p/2023-banking-crisis https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1448455115271143424 https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-6102-requiring-gold-coin-gold-bullion-and-gold-certificates-be-delivered https://twitter.com/markgags/status/802597908033966081 https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1638753739128315906 #allin #tech #news

Chamath PalihapitiyahostJason CalacanishostDavid FriedberghostGuestguest
Mar 23, 20231h 34mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Fed’s risky tightrope, CRE time bomb, Bitcoin hysteria, TikTok reckoning

  1. The hosts dissect the Federal Reserve’s latest rate hike, debating whether the Fed is mismanaging inflation and financial stability, and outlining how its decisions are stressing banks and the broader economy.
  2. They dive into the looming commercial real estate (CRE) debt problem, explaining how rising rates, falling office demand, and frozen credit could cascade into bank balance sheets and potentially require massive federal backstops.
  3. Balaji Srinivasan’s $1M-in-90-days Bitcoin bet is analyzed and largely dismissed as publicity and book-talking, even as the panel agrees that more money printing and some inflationary response are likely over time.
  4. The episode closes on U.S. moves against crypto and TikTok, with a strong bipartisan push to either force a TikTok divestiture or outright ban, and a brief note on the progress and economics of new space-launch startups.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

The Fed is trading one crisis for another by fixating on lagging inflation data.

Sacks argues the Fed was late to fight inflation and is now over-tightening despite clear banking stress, while Chamath contends the Fed chose the worst middle-ground by hiking only 25 bps instead of decisively breaking inflation or clearly pausing.

Commercial real estate could be the next major shock to banks.

With office vacancies surging, leases rolling down, and refinancing costs spiking while credit is frozen, many CRE-backed loans will no longer pencil out, pushing owners to default and leaving smaller banks—who hold most CRE debt—carrying potentially large, opaque losses.

Massive federal support for property and banks is likely, not optional.

Friedberg expects $2–3 trillion in federal programs to stabilize CRE, plus more for banks and housing, arguing that high debt levels and systemic leverage make it politically and economically impossible to allow a full asset-price reset.

Bitcoin is not behaving like a true systemic hedge in this crisis.

Chamath notes that if Bitcoin were genuinely functioning as an off-ramp from the dollar, it should have exploded far beyond the high-$20Ks given current turmoil; instead, adoption remains narrow and trading is mostly speculative rather than defensive.

Crypto is facing a coordinated regulatory squeeze in the U.S.

Sacks cites a string of SEC actions, state AG moves, enforcement against exchanges and staking, and policy proposals, framing them as an emerging ‘Operation Choke Point’ targeting crypto rails just as broader monetary stress increases.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

They took the worst option, which is neither did they cut nor did they raise enough.

Chamath Palihapitiya

There are three phases to this financial crisis: the banking crisis we’re in, then a commercial real estate crisis, and then a government debt crisis.

David Sacks

Every time they try to connect it to Bitcoin, they sound like a crazy person because they’re just talking their book.

Chamath Palihapitiya

The more you insure at this point, the cheaper the insurance will actually be, because now the probability of having this bank run goes way, way down.

David Friedberg

There’s a fundamental market failure with banking: the depositor and the bank think they’re getting two completely different things.

David Sacks

Federal Reserve rate hikes, inflation, and banking system stressCommercial real estate (CRE) debt, office vacancies, and small-bank exposureSystemic risk, global debt levels, and potential government backstopsBalaji Srinivasan’s hyperinflation thesis and $1M Bitcoin betRegulatory crackdown on crypto (SEC, Operation Choke Point 2.0)FDIC insurance limits, moral hazard, and bank business-model reformTikTok’s congressional grilling, national security concerns, and potential ban or forced divestiture

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