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E151: WW3 risk, War with Iran?, 4.9% GDP, startup failures growing, new Speaker & more

(0:00) Bestie intros! (1:16) WW3 risk, is WSJ trying to escalate US vs Iran? (22:02) Nuclear risks (33:28) Best case scenarios for de-escalation (40:34) Murky macro picture: Main Street disconnects from Wall Street, startup shutdowns, challenged returns (1:09:14) Cruise robotaxi accident update (1:12:59) Hurricane Otis's rapid progression and the second-order effects on US coastal communities (1:24:47) Jason reflects on his time in the Middle East (1:31:09) New House Speaker and Trump case update Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/09/28/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-map-front-line.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/25/us/politics/us-israel-gaza-ground-invasion.html https://unherd.com/2023/10/republican-hawks-now-want-a-war-with-iran/ https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-oe-heilbrunn-iran-framework-republican-neocon-response-20150403-story.html https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/09/no-evidence-yet-of-iran-link-to-hamas-attack-says-israeli-military https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/blinken-says-no-direct-evidence-iran-was-involved-hamas-attack-israel-rcna120110 https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hamas-fighters-trained-in-iran-before-oct-7-attacks-e2a8dbb9 https://www.reuters.com/article/israel-palestinians-usa-senator-idAFS8N3BG0A6 https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-red-line-moment-with-iran-9e1bbf5a https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25 https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iranian-backed-militias-mount-new-wave-of-attacks-as-u-s-supports-israel-d51364d4 https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/ukrainian-counteroffensive-pierces-main-russian-defensive-line-in-southeast-9441e204 https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/07/politics/joe-biden-cluster-munitions-ukraine/index.html https://nypost.com/2023/10/15/biden-insists-us-can-tend-to-both-ukraine-and-israel-at-the-same-time https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1717049864180379761 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/25/world/middleeast/erdogan-turkey-hamas-israel.html https://jordantimes.com/opinion/daoud-kuttab/king-abdullah-calls-peace-immediate-stoppage-war-gaza https://www.bea.gov/sites/default/files/2023-10/gdp3q23_adv.pdf https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1716608344264470868 https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddce62ff-33dd-4a38-a659-25e192825c29_1250x630.png https://www.google.com/finance/quote/CART:NASDAQ https://www.google.com/finance/quote/KVYO:NYSE https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/bank-americas-unrealized-losses-securities-rose-1316-bln-2023-10-17 https://techcrunch.com/2023/10/24/dmv-immediately-suspends-cruises-robotaxi-permit-in-california https://getcruise.com/news/blog/2023/a-detailed-review-of-the-recent-sf-hit-and-run-incident https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2023/10/25/mike-johnson-is-a-social-conservatives-social-conservative-00123619 https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/25/democrats-opposition-mike-johnson-house-speaker-00123624 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/25/us/politics/mike-johnson-house-speaker.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9017431/Farting-sound-heard-twice-Rudy-Giulianis-voter-fraud-hearing-Michigan.html https://thosenerdygirls.org/can-farts-spread-covid #allin #tech #news

Chamath PalihapitiyahostDavid FriedberghostJason Calacanishost
Oct 26, 20231h 43mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

World War III fears, Iran tensions, startup reckoning, and political chaos

  1. The episode ranges from rising geopolitical risks—especially the Middle East and Ukraine—to the structural fragility of the global economy and startup ecosystem. David Sacks recaps a Twitter Space with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy on preventing World War III, arguing for a negotiated end to the Ukraine war and warning about neocon pushes for conflict with Iran. The besties then dissect how high interest rates, shifting public market multiples, and stalled IPO windows are crushing late‑stage startups and venture funds, with Stripe seen as the key pricing event for the entire private market. They also cover Hurricane Otis as a case study of climate-driven “black swan” weather, collapsing insurance economics, the new hard‑right Speaker of the House, and the cascading Trump legal cases.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Ending the Ukraine war is seen as crucial to avoiding wider conflict.

Sacks and others argue the Ukrainian counteroffensive has failed to change the map, while US engagement in both Ukraine and the Middle East heightens the risk of miscalculation with Russia and Iran; they call for a negotiated ceasefire rather than an open‑ended proxy war.

There is an active push in DC and media circles toward confrontation with Iran.

Sacks points to Lindsey Graham’s rhetoric and Wall Street Journal editorials as evidence of a longstanding neocon agenda for regime change in Iran, with selective reporting tying Iran to Hamas as a way to ‘beat the drums of war.’

Low-probability nuclear use scenarios are becoming materially more concerning.

Friedberg warns that as multiple conventional wars stretch industrial capacity and ammo stockpiles, a cornered nuclear power might see tactical nukes as the only path to victory, making previously remote scenarios meaningfully more plausible over the coming decades.

The apparent strength of the real economy masks deep financial fragility.

Despite 4.9% US GDP growth and solid employment, markets are weak once you strip out a handful of mega‑cap tech stocks; high rates are exposing unrealized losses at major banks, cratering valuations, and slowing deal activity.

The startup and VC bubble of 2021 is now unwinding in slow motion.

Late‑stage companies that raised at peak valuations are running out of runway into a world of lower multiples, leading to shutdowns, down‑rounds, structured bridges, and a likely wave of zombie funds and dead venture firms; Stripe’s eventual IPO is seen as the key repricing event.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

This is how you sleepwalk into war: you read a headline, you believe it, and then you run with it.

Chamath Palihapitiya

There are multiple realities we could live in from here, but some number of them end with someone saying, ‘I gotta press the [nuclear] button.’

David Friedberg

It’s a lot harder to make money when the money supply is shrinking than when it’s growing.

David Sacks

I don’t think the reset can happen until Stripe goes public.

Chamath Palihapitiya

These assets aren’t worth what they’re currently marked at… Events like Acapulco are forcing the market to rewrite this stuff.

David Friedberg

Escalating geopolitical risk: Ukraine war, Israel–Hamas conflict, and IranNeoconservative pressure and media narratives around war with IranNuclear weapons risk amid stretched industrial and military capacityMacroeconomy vs markets: 4.9% GDP, high rates, and fragile financeStartup and venture capital reset: shutdowns, down rounds, and IPO droughtClimate change, Hurricane Otis, and the looming insurance/real-estate crisisUS political dysfunction: new Speaker Mike Johnson and Trump legal exposure

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