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E83: Market slide continues, and how to address Uvalde

0:00 Bestie Guestie Brad Gerstner joins the show 1:00 All-In Summit recap and best moments 16:45 State of the markets, $ZM/$SNOW earnings, how much more uncertainty? 29:53 $SNAP drops after miscalculating earnings targets, understanding signs of a true bottom, the end of entitlement 51:10 Down market end game, investor decisions, reasons for optimism, quick reset potential 1:05:17 Sacks explains his concept for "default investable," Besties share thoughts on proactive layoffs and course correction 1:12:27 Addressing Uvalde, legislative disappointment, potential preventative solutions Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg https://twitter.com/altcap Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.google.com/finance/quote/SPY:NYSEARCA https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.DJI:INDEXDJX https://investors.zoom.us/news-releases/news-release-details/zoom-video-communications-reports-financial-results-first https://investors.snowflake.com/news/news-details/2022/Snowflake-Reports-Financial-Results-for-the-First-Quarter-of-Fiscal-2023/default.aspx https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T10YIE https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1529100065331200005 https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1529133144540078083 https://layoffs.fyi https://www.google.com/finance/quote/SNAP:NYSE https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/24/snaps-down-32percent-and-its-dragging-other-stocks-down-with-it.html https://www.google.com/finance/quote/FB:NASDAQ https://www.google.com/finance/quote/GOOG:NASDAQ https://nypost.com/2022/05/13/netflix-tells-woke-workers-to-quit-if-they-are-offended-culture-memo https://twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/1525309091970699265 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1529119829080150016 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1528102541723979776 https://sacks.substack.com/p/the-burn-multiple-51a7e43cb200 https://elections.bradyunited.org/take-action/nra-donations-116th-congress-senators https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#/media/File:Total_Deaths_in_US_Mass_Shootings_1982-2021.jpg https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1529843255176663040 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/01/business/coronavirus-gun-sales.html https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1529504198974263296 #allin #tech #news

Jason CalacanishostBrad GerstnerguestChamath PalihapitiyahostDavid Friedberghost
May 26, 20221h 49mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Markets Slide, Venture Reset, And Urgent Ideas To Stop Shootings

  1. The hosts open by recapping the All-In Summit, highlighting its community-building, diversity efforts, and several dramatic on-stage moments, including a tense but ultimately reconciliatory exchange between Jason Calacanis and Palmer Luckey. They then shift into a deep analysis of the current market downturn, focusing on interest rates, inflation, SaaS valuations, and what founders and investors must do to survive a prolonged reset. A large portion of the discussion centers on startup discipline: free cash flow, cutting burn, realistic valuations, and the likely shakeout of overfunded, weak companies. The episode closes with an emotional but policy-focused segment on the Uvalde school shooting, exploring red-flag laws, early-warning systems, tech-company responsibilities, and the political dysfunction blocking “reasonable” gun reforms.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Expect a prolonged but healthy reset in tech and venture markets.

Panelists argue that 2020–2021 valuations were inflated by zero rates and massive money-printing; normalization alone justified a 20–50% correction, and the additional macro shocks (war, inflation fears) have now pushed many growth names 30–50% below five-year averages.

Founders must aggressively cut burn now to extend runway and survive.

They warn that small, incremental cuts usually lead to a death spiral, advocating a “90-degree course correction” on spending to reach either free cash flow breakeven or clearly ‘default investable’ metrics before capital markets reopen.

Free cash flow and true capital efficiency now matter more than growth at any cost.

Public and late-stage investors are shifting from adjusted metrics to real free cash flow per share; companies that keep masking dilution with stock grants or relying on “adjusted EBITDA” will be punished in this environment.

The talent market will cool, ending hyper-entitled compensation expectations.

As hiring freezes and layoffs spread from startups to big tech, engineers and executives will lose their leverage to demand ever-rising salaries and backfilled equity losses; leaders must insist on shared sacrifice rather than endlessly “making people whole.”

Late-stage private companies with bad cap tables face brutal restructuring.

Many unicorns raised at quasi-public valuations without product–market fit or sustainable metrics; they will need to reset preferences, accept down rounds, or even return capital, while only a small number of true category leaders ultimately win.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Sometimes you have to hold simultaneous truths: a stock can be down 50% and still be fair value.

Brad Gerstner

By surviving, you win. If you come out the other end as the only company left, you will run over the market.

Chamath Palihapitiya

The only thing that creates wealth in a society is the output of goods and services that people want; printing money just debases the accounting system.

David Sacks

If you don’t like it, quit. That’s the only way to react to being held hostage by your employees.

David Sacks (on Netflix’s memo to staff)

Every country has kids with mental health disorders, but not every country has kids getting shot up in schools. That is a unique feature of the system we accept.

Brad Gerstner

Highlights and behind-the-scenes dynamics from the All-In Summit 2022Current market conditions: inflation, rate hikes, and tech-stock correctionVenture capital reset, startup survival strategies, and capital efficiencyTalent markets, compensation expectations, and the end of “entitlement” cultureRole of the Fed, money printing, and macroeconomic policy misstepsStructural problems in late-stage private markets and fund behaviorUvalde shooting, gun policy (red-flag laws, background checks), and early-warning systems

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