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Elon gets paid, Apple's AI pop, OpenAI revenue rip, Macro debate & Inside Trump Fundraiser

(0:00) Bestie intros: Bringing up the energy! (8:48) Trump fundraiser recap (23:16) Elon's comp package approved by shareholders (40:12) Apple announces "Apple Intelligence" and ChatGPT deal at WWDC (50:17) OpenAI reportedly hits a $3.4B revenue run rate (1:05:26) Macro debate: State of the US economy? (1:23:30) Rare sarcoma search Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://twitter.com/Jason https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://twitter.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.instagram.com/tim.naki https://x.com/eoghan/status/1799161733766062545 https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1800979079472288145 https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1797086962626494840 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1801084780035154058 https://x.com/jhall/status/1795794521604718814 https://fortune.com/2024/06/10/elon-musk-pay-package-tesla-lawyers-delaware-chancery-payout-stock-award-56-billion https://companiesmarketcap.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeOiIDNNek https://x.com/chiefaioffice/status/1801022115426009309 https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=%2Fg%2F11khcfz0y2&hl=en https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fg%2F11khcfz0y2&hl=en https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FEDFUNDS https://www.jpmorgan.com/insights/outlook/economic-outlook/jobs-report-may-2024 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES0500000003 https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2024.06.10%20Letter%20to%20Fed.%20re%20interest%20rates.pdf https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/07/jobs-report-may-2024-us-job-gains-totaled-272000-in-may.html https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/JTSJOL https://x.com/VinnyLingham/status/1801129023168454907 https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1aw5bbb/world_economy_on_nvidias_shoulders https://www.instagram.com/stocktradingmemes/p/C3qer-sSfb0/?img_index=1 https://x.com/jameslavish/status/1801248976911634648 https://x.com/peterfenton/status/1801300735520608529 #allin #tech #news

Jason CalacanishostTim the Kiwi gambler (Instagram poker vlogger guest)guestChamath PalihapitiyahostDavid FriedberghostGuest (additional, brief contributor)guestDonald Trump (clip from fundraiser / interview)guest
Jun 13, 20241h 24mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Elon’s $56B Payday, Apple’s AI Pivot, Trump’s Tech Courtship, Economy Jitters

  1. The episode opens with a surprise live blackjack segment featuring Instagram creator Tim Naki, where the hosts stake $10K, win big, and gift most of the proceeds back to him. The besties then go deep on David Sacks’ Trump fundraiser, arguing that in-person Trump is highly charismatic, pro-innovation, and sharply at odds with media portrayals, while Biden’s perceived cognitive decline looms over the election.
  2. They dissect Tesla shareholders’ re-approval of Elon Musk’s $56B compensation package and Tesla’s move from Delaware to Texas, framing Delaware’s court decision as judicial overreach that could push companies to new jurisdictions. Apple’s “Apple Intelligence” launch and OpenAI’s reported $3.4B revenue run rate are analyzed as signs of an AI platform war, with debate over privacy, proprietary vs open-source models, and where real enterprise value will accumulate.
  3. In macro, the group challenges the “soft landing” narrative, arguing that stagflation-like conditions, a debt-funded 1.3% GDP growth, and sticky inflation keep Powell boxed in on rates despite political pressure from figures like Elizabeth Warren. The episode closes with a sober call to help find cases for a rare sarcoma study at Dana-Farber, leveraging the audience to support a potentially life-saving research effort.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Influencer crossovers can rapidly compound reach and credibility

The pod’s surprise collaboration with blackjack creator Tim Naki shows how fast modern micro-celebrities can cross-pollinate audiences. Tim went from 15K to 1.3M followers on his blackjack series, then instantly gained more reach and social proof via All-In. For brands or creators, engineered crossovers with complementary audiences can be far more potent than standard ads because they feel organic, entertaining, and status-conferring for both sides.

Trump is positioning himself as the ‘pro-innovation’ candidate to tech elites

Sacks and Chamath describe Trump at the fundraiser as highly charismatic, sharp, funny, and notably pro-innovation—explicitly positive on AI, crypto, and low regulation/taxation. Many attendees were first-time Republican donors, historically Democrat-leaning, motivated by issues like war, immigration, and crypto. For tech and finance leaders, the message is that Trump is actively courting their vote with issue-based pivots (EVs, TikTok, crypto) and personal engagement.

Delaware’s activist ruling on Musk’s pay risks its corporate dominance

Tesla shareholders re-approved Elon’s comp package with the same 73% margin as in 2018, directly contradicting a Delaware judge’s claim that shareholders weren’t properly informed. The besties argue this kind of judicial activism undermines Delaware’s core value proposition—predictable, shareholder-respecting corporate law—and accelerates migration to Nevada and Texas. Boards and founders should actively reassess domicile choice and litigation risk, especially for large incentive packages.

Apple is trading privacy purism for AI acceleration, with big platform stakes

Apple’s “Apple Intelligence” strategy—LLM-powered Siri and OS-level agents that reach into apps—could reignite device upgrade cycles and lock in consumer AI behavior. But by integrating OpenAI at the OS layer, Apple is allowing a third party deep access to user actions and data, something it has historically resisted on privacy grounds. Developers and competitors should expect Apple to treat LLMs like search: a swappable, auctionable default and a powerful new tollbooth.

OpenAI’s growth is real, but long-term value likely lies in B2B and open source will attack margins

A reported $3.4B revenue run rate validates product-market fit, but the hosts believe durable value is in B2B/API usage, not consumer subscriptions that are prone to high churn. Enterprises haven’t yet deployed AI into mission-critical production workflows at scale; most usage is experimental or productivity-oriented. Meanwhile, increasingly capable open-source models (e.g., LLaMA) enable companies to build in-house LLM stacks, threatening proprietary margins once internal capabilities mature.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

There is a huge gap between how the media tries to portray Donald Trump and what he's like when you meet him in person.

Chamath Palihapitiya

Shareholders aren’t ingrates. Elon delivered what he promised, and now shareholders are upholding their end of the bargain.

David Sacks

We should think about something that looks a lot more like this than what we typically do… you would find a very different cast of people showing up to become CEOs.

David Friedberg

Apple took a shortcut. They partnered with OpenAI… allowing someone in beneath the level of the App Store at the operating system level.

David Sacks

We are still inflating the cost of everything by north of 3%. The economy is only growing by 1.3%. That means everyone's spending power is reducing.

David Friedberg

Live blackjack stunt with creator Tim Naki and influencer dynamicsInside David Sacks’ Trump fundraiser and 2024 election dynamicsTesla shareholder vote on Elon Musk’s $56B compensation and Delaware vs TexasApple’s “Apple Intelligence” strategy and OpenAI integrationOpenAI’s reported $3.4B revenue run rate and business model sustainabilityUS macroeconomy: inflation, rates, GDP growth, and Fed politicsRare sarcoma case search and leveraging platform reach for medical research

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