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Google fires protestors, NPR chaos, Humane's AI Pin, Startup tax crisis, sports betting scandal

(0:00) Bestie Intros: Chamath recaps the Breakthrough Prize Ceremony, "High IQ foods" (9:49) All-In Summit update, Poker styles of Andrew Robl, Jason Koon, and Phil Hellmuth (14:38) Google fires protestors (35:08) Chaos and culture wars at NPR (40:43) Humane's AI Pin: Marques Brownlee's review, the Ex-Apple issue, polarizing reactions (1:02:28) Startup tax crisis: How a recent provision upended R&D deductions (1:12:39) Sports betting scandal: NBA player Jontay Porter banned for life, explosion of sports betting in the US (1:23:33) How to get better at chess, childhood Bestie schemes Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://twitter.com/Jason https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://twitter.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://twitter.com/NoTechApartheid/status/1780278895058518468 https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/17/google-workers-arrested-after-nine-hour-protest-in-google-cloud-ceos-office.html https://www.notechforapartheid.com https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/17/24133700/google-fires-28-employees-protest-israel-cloud-contract https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1779914595156808045 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-11/ty-article-magazine/.premium/saying-what-cant-be-said-israel-has-been-defeated-a-total-defeat/0000018e-cdab-dba9-a78e-efef6ba10000 https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-wins-gaza-battles-but-risks-losing-the-war-c6a3823f https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/19/middleeast/eisenkot-netanyahu-israel-war-politics-gaza-intl/index.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-APSXZy9UI https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/02/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-aid-workers-killed.html https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-03-31/ty-article-magazine/.premium/israel-created-kill-zones-in-gaza-anyone-who-crosses-into-them-is-shot/0000018e-946c-d4de-afee-f46da9ee0000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-15/ty-article/.premium/israeli-army-says-killed-three-hostages-mistakenly-identified-as-threat-in-northern-gaza/0000018c-6edd-dbd5-a39c-ffff08470000 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/06/world/middleeast/israel-idf-soldiers-war-social-media-video.html https://twitter.com/JustStop_Oil/status/1580883249228046336 https://www.npr.org/2024/01/24/1226035539/npr-ceo-katherine-maher-wikimedia https://www.npr.org/about-npr/178659563/our-mission-and-vision https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-trust https://www.npr.org/sections/npr-extra/2024/04/12/1244456600/from-npr-president-and-ceo-katherine-maher-thoughts-on-our-mission-and-our-work https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1780695504210567335 https://www.theinformation.com/articles/has-humane-created-the-next-iphone-or-the-next-google-glass https://humane.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TitZV6k8zfA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xWXRk3yaSw https://www.amazon.com/Anxious-Generation-Rewiring-Childhood-Epidemic/dp/0593655036 https://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Trilogy-Book-1-ebook/dp/B00TOZI7FM https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Therapy-Kids-Arent-Growing/dp/0593542924 https://www.wsj.com/sports/basketball/jontay-porter-banned-gambling-5dd9c1a8 https://nypost.com/2024/04/17/sports/how-jontay-porter-orchestrated-failed-nba-gambling-scandal https://dknetwork.draftkings.com/2024/1/31/24054415/lebron-james-joins-draftkings-football-sports https://www.espn.com/espn/betting/story/_/id/39563784/sports-betting-industry-posts-record-11b-2023-revenue https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38386013/how-nba-new-rules-resting-stars-work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2huVf1l4UE #allin #tech #news

David FriedberghostChamath PalihapitiyahostJason Calacanishost
Apr 18, 20241h 36mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Google Firings, NPR Turmoil, AI Pin Flop, Startup Tax Squeeze, Betting Scandal

  1. This All-In Podcast episode ranges from light banter and poker talk to serious debates on tech worker activism, media bias, AI hardware, tax policy, and sports betting ethics.
  2. The hosts dissect Google's firing of pro-Palestinian protesters, NPR's escalating culture war controversy, and YouTuber Marques Brownlee's brutal review of Humane's AI Pin.
  3. They highlight a looming R&D tax-change crisis for startups, explore the social consequences of legal sports betting after an NBA betting scandal, and repeatedly return to themes of entitlement, distraction, and how technology is reshaping behavior.
  4. Throughout, they contrast principled protest and innovation with naivete, institutional capture, and unintended consequences from both policy and product design.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Workplace protests carry real employment risk, and protesters must own that tradeoff.

The Google sit-in protesters were at-will employees who occupied offices, impeded work, and were promptly fired. The hosts agree Google had little choice operationally, and argue that if employees care enough to stage civil disobedience at work, they should expect and accept termination rather than claim unfair treatment afterward.

NPR’s perceived leftward drift, combined with public funding, fuels political backlash.

The panel views the NPR story as unsurprising—NPR has long been left-of-center—but flags a real issue: taxpayer funding for an openly ideological institution. They argue NPR should stand on private donations or subscriptions, noting that if similar funds went to a conservative outlet, there would be bipartisan outrage.

Deep-tech and hardware startups are uniquely vulnerable: one bad V1 can burn hundreds of millions.

Humane’s AI Pin, built by ex-Apple executives and backed with ~$250M, illustrates how capital-intensive hardware forces you to sink huge sums before real user feedback. A harsh review doesn’t “kill” a good company, but when the first product is expensive, unreliable, and mispositioned (e.g., pitched as a phone replacement), there may not be enough runway to iterate.

Wearables and continuous recording raise profound social and privacy frictions.

The hosts are skeptical of visible, socially intrusive devices like the AI Pin for everyday interaction, predicting pushback similar to Google Glass. They see more durable value in discreet, utility-focused wearables (fitness trackers, glucose monitors) and even eventual brain-computer interfaces, but warn that constant recording makes you a “surveillance node” people may reject socially.

A little-noticed R&D tax change is a major hidden threat to small innovators.

Due to a 2017 law now in force, US companies must amortize R&D over five years (15 if done abroad), meaning a break-even software or biotech startup can owe tax on phantom ‘profits’. The hosts warn this will starve small and mid-sized innovators, push work offshore or to other countries, and should be urgently reversed alongside fixing M&A policy to sustain the startup ecosystem.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Groups of people in society in a democracy should have a right to protest… When that stuff impedes the public functioning of society for other people, then I think there is a responsibility for law enforcement to act.

Chamath Palihapitiya

This is what I would call left-on-left violence: left-leaning people creating all of these distractions inside left-leaning organizations for not being left-leaning enough.

Chamath Palihapitiya

Reviewers are gonna review, protesters are gonna protest, and NPR presidents are gonna NPR.

David Sacks

If you get caught up in all of these silly little fake battles, what it really means is that you’re not busy enough and you’re not working on something that matters enough to you.

Chamath Palihapitiya

Adults should be allowed to bet on sporting events… It’s probably not a great thing on a societal basis, but it’s something you allow to happen because of personal freedom.

David Sacks

Google firing employees over in-office Gaza/Israel protests and workplace activism normsNPR’s leadership, perceived political bias, and public funding controversyHumane’s AI Pin, hardware risk, and the value/limits of harsh tech reviewsWearables, surveillance, phone addiction, and youth mental healthUS R&D tax amortization rules and their impact on startups and innovationExplosion of legalized sports betting and the Jontay Porter NBA scandalGambling, entrepreneurship, and early-life risk-taking stories from the hosts

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