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Hurricane fallout, AlphaFold, Google breakup, Trump surge, VC giveback, TikTok survey

(0:00) Bestie intros! (3:18) The science behind Hurricanes Helene and Milton (14:59) The economics of intensifying natural disasters (29:03) AlphaFold creators win Nobel Prize in Chemistry (35:17) The Jayter's Ball (38:53) Google antitrust update: DOJ is going for a breakup (53:32) VC giveback: CRV will return ~$275M of a $500M fund to LPs (1:03:44) New TikTok survey shows increased usage as a news source (1:15:26) Election update: Are polling problems causing a strategy shift for Kamala Harris? Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://allin.com/meetups https://youtube.com/@allin https://allin.com/tequila https://allin.com https://x.com/Ry_Bass/status/1844367980249178396 https://www.newsweek.com/hurricane-helene-update-economic-losses-damage-could-total-160-billion-1961240 https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/enso/september-2024-enso-update-binge-watch https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01442-3 https://x.com/vkhosla/status/1844166857655533811 https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hrd_sub/sfury.html https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03214-7 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-09/us-says-it-s-weighing-google-breakup-as-remedy-in-monopoly-case https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/rtKjE02hAh_k/v0 https://x.com/AOC/status/1844034727935988155 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/02/technology/crv-vc-fund-returning-money.html https://www.axios.com/2023/03/03/founders-fund-slashes-vc-peter-thiel https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/17/more-americans-regularly-get-news-on-tiktok-especially-young-adults https://www.pewresearch.org/data-labs/2024/10/08/who-u-s-adults-follow-on-tiktok https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/russia-pays-criminals-to-sow-mayhem-in-europe-warns-u-k-spy-chief-21ab960c https://x.com/iapolls2022/status/1844418916107341948 https://x.com/2waytvapp/status/1844803367740096811 https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1829383729284067659 #allin #tech #news

Jason CalacanishostDavid FriedberghostChamath Palihapitiyahost
Oct 10, 20241h 24mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Hurricanes, AI Nobels, Google Breakup, VC Retrenchment, TikTok News Shift

  1. The episode opens with banter about the All-In brand and quickly turns to the science and economics of increasingly intense hurricanes, focusing on ocean warming, sulfur regulations, and the looming collapse of coastal insurance markets.
  2. The besties then discuss DeepMind’s AlphaFold Nobel Prize, framing it as a landmark convergence of AI and life sciences, before shifting to the DOJ’s push to structurally remedy Google’s search and ad monopolies, potentially through a breakup.
  3. They analyze venture capital’s pullback from oversized growth funds, highlighting CRV’s decision to return capital and the structural math problems of billion‑dollar funds, then examine Pew data showing TikTok’s rapid rise as a primary news source for young Americans.
  4. The show closes with an election update: polls vs. betting markets on Trump vs. Harris, the risks of Harris’s media strategy, and how late‑cycle shocks, legal rulings, and information chaos may shape the final stretch.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Warmer oceans and sulfur regulations are accelerating hurricane intensity and frequency.

Friedberg explains that record-high Atlantic sea surface temperatures provide huge energy reserves that drive rapid hurricane intensification (e.g., Helene jumping from Category 2 to 4/5 in ~48 hours). A Nature paper shows that removing sulfur dioxide from shipping fuel—done to reduce acid rain—eliminated reflective ship tracks (clouds), allowing more solar energy into the oceans and likely doubling the rate of ocean warming in the 2020s. This ‘artificial cooling’ is gone, contributing to more frequent “1‑in‑100” or “1‑in‑500-year” storms now appearing every few years.

Coastal real estate, especially in Florida, is likely mispriced given true climate and insurance risk.

With $500B–$1T of real estate along Florida’s coast and ~$454B in mortgages, hurricane loss frequency assumptions have shifted from ~1-in-100/500 years toward 1-in-20–50. Insurance premiums required to fairly price that risk would reach 2–5% of a home’s value per year, which most homeowners can’t afford. Insurers are exiting, the state-backed reinsurance fund (Florida Hurricane Catastrophe Fund) has only $17B in statutory capacity versus events projected at $40–$50B+, and federal bailouts would set a precedent other states would demand. The besties argue many coastal markets (e.g., West Palm Beach, Malibu) are “massively overpriced” relative to this embedded risk.

AlphaFold’s Nobel underscores how AI is transforming fundamental science and enabling new biotech.

DeepMind’s Demis Hassabis and John Jumper win the Nobel in Chemistry for AI-based protein folding. Friedberg explains that for decades, biologists struggled to predict 3D protein structures from amino acid sequences (e.g., Folding@home). AlphaFold essentially solves that prediction problem at scale and DeepMind has published structures for ~200M proteins. This enables rational design of new proteins for drugs, industrial enzymes, and nanoscale machines. It has already spawned a new Google venture (Isomorphic Labs) and dozens of startups, with billions in funding, though real-world impacts will unfold over several years.

Big tech monopolies can both harm competition and fund transformative R&D, complicating antitrust remedies.

Friedberg argues that large, cash-rich monopolies (Bell Labs/AT&T then; Google and Amazon now) have historically funded breakthrough R&D in ways smaller startups cannot—e.g., DeepMind/AlphaFold, Waymo, AWS. Chamath counters that elongated innovation cycles have weakened natural ‘creative destruction,’ letting giants sprawl into many markets and become irresistible political targets. The DOJ is now signaling structural remedies against Google, potentially forcing divestitures or separation of Chrome, Android, Play, and Search. The group suggests that while breakups may help ad-tech competition, they risk undermining long-horizon research capacity.

Venture capital is overcapitalized at the late stage; smaller, more concentrated funds are likely superior.

CRV’s decision to return or not call ~$275M of a $500M growth/opportunity fund is framed as rational: late-stage valuations remain high, exits are scarce, and the math of big growth funds doesn’t work. Sacks notes that with a $1B venture fund and ~10% ownership in a winner, you need a ~$30B outcome just to 3x the fund—an extremely rare event. LPs have over-“smeared” capital across too many GPs chasing AUM. Both Chamath and Friedberg say LPs are now preferring fewer managers and smaller funds, with growth capital more attractive now that crossover tourists (e.g., Tigers, hedge funds) have largely withdrawn.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We had an artificial cooling, and now by taking that away, we’re seeing the heat energy in the oceans accelerate—and now the oceans are getting much, much warmer, much faster.

David Friedberg

My personal belief is I think that the real estate markets in some of these places are meaningfully mispriced—specifically what I mean is that they are massively overpriced.

Chamath Palihapitiya

This becomes, I think, this great big holy grail in biochemistry and the AlphaFold project at DeepMind inside of Google solved this problem.

David Friedberg

This thing should be probably three separate companies, like we’ve talked about in a previous show.

David Sacks

If you just take a step back, these are the right things to do because you’re much better off having a smaller pool of capital that you can concentrate into the things that matter.

Chamath Palihapitiya

Climate science and hurricane intensification due to ocean warmingEconomic and insurance impacts of climate risk on coastal real estateAlphaFold, AI-driven protein folding, and the Nobel Prize in ChemistryDOJ antitrust case against Google and potential structural breakupVenture capital fund size, growth funds, and CRV’s capital givebackTikTok as a fast-growing news source and information warfare concerns2024 U.S. election dynamics, polling vs. betting markets, and campaign strategy

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