The Diary of a CEOBillion Dollar NIGHTMARE! The Tragedy Of A Billion $$ Beauty Business - Nicola Kilner, The Ordinary
Steven Bartlett and Nicola Kilner on from Startup Cult To Tragedy: Inside The Ordinary’s Billion-Dollar Rise.
In this episode of The Diary of a CEO, featuring Nicola Kilner and Steven Bartlett, Billion Dollar NIGHTMARE! The Tragedy Of A Billion $$ Beauty Business - Nicola Kilner, The Ordinary explores from Startup Cult To Tragedy: Inside The Ordinary’s Billion-Dollar Rise Nicola Kilner, co-founder and CEO of DECIEM and The Ordinary, recounts the meteoric rise of their skincare empire, built on radical transparency, product quality, and an almost ‘cult-like’ sense of family and belonging.
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
From Startup Cult To Tragedy: Inside The Ordinary’s Billion-Dollar Rise
- Nicola Kilner, co-founder and CEO of DECIEM and The Ordinary, recounts the meteoric rise of their skincare empire, built on radical transparency, product quality, and an almost ‘cult-like’ sense of family and belonging.
- She details how meeting visionary founder Brandon Truaxe led her from a corporate role at Boots into a chaotic, exhilarating startup that eventually attracted a multibillion-dollar investment from Estée Lauder Companies.
- The story turns dark as Brandon’s experimentation with psychedelics and later hard drugs seemingly triggers a rapid mental health collapse, public meltdowns on Instagram, her firing, board intervention, and ultimately his death after multiple psychiatric sectionings.
- Throughout, Nicola reflects on leadership, culture, kindness, addiction, and grief, while explaining how she rebuilt DECIEM, assumed sole leadership while heavily pregnant, and continues to anchor the company in belonging and ethical growth.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
7 ideasRadical product transparency can unlock huge consumer trust and growth.
The Ordinary was born from frustration that skincare lacked the ingredient-and-dosage transparency of pharmacy medicines. By naming products after active ingredients (e.g., niacinamide) and pricing them close to cost—much like paracetamol versus branded painkillers—they undercut marketing-led pricing and let science and value speak. This clarity sparked word-of-mouth virality, turning The Ordinary into a global brand that still struggles to keep up with demand years later.
Early corporate experience can be a powerful foundation for entrepreneurship.
Nicola’s time at Boots taught her how big organizations work: cross-functional collaboration, supply chain realities, legal and regulatory constraints, and how to launch and ‘launch and love’ products, not just list them. That exposure to both strengths and limitations of corporates later informed DECIEM’s decision to build capabilities in-house (R&D, comms, manufacturing) and helped her navigate the later partnership with Estée Lauder.
Intense ‘family’ culture accelerates early-stage success but has hidden costs.
DECIEM’s first years were defined by all-consuming work, blurred boundaries, and deep personal bonds—weekends together, trips, and everyone doing every job, from formulating to packing boxes. This generated high creativity and agility, but Nicola now questions the kindness of that model in light of modern awareness of burnout and mental health. Founders should be conscious that cult-like dedication can drive growth, but also dependency and vulnerability when crises hit.
Co-founders must design for both genius and fragility in visionary partners.
Brandon was a scientific and creative genius, but also eccentric, intense, and, as emerged later, deeply vulnerable. Nicola’s calm, people-focused style complemented his black‑and‑white, high‑energy thinking. When his mental health abruptly collapsed—likely triggered and then compounded by heavy psychedelic and meth use—the company and investors had no robust contingency. Structuring governance, safeguards, and support systems around key individuals is critical, especially when the founder is the brand.
Kind leadership is compatible with high performance—but requires hard conversations.
Nicola draws a sharp line between being ‘nice’ and being truly kind. For her, kindness includes making difficult calls on performance, redeploying or even exiting people, but doing so with support (e.g., coaching, outplacement, counseling). She argues that to protect jobs overall and honor a ‘family’ culture, the business must perform; thus, leaders must balance empathy with accountability and ensure that ‘belonging’ does not mean avoiding honest feedback.
Self-awareness and selective delegation are essential when a startup scales.
As DECIEM neared a billion in revenue with 1,500 staff, Nicola realized her strengths (brand, people, culture, values) didn’t extend to complex planning and financial control. Rather than clinging to a traditional CEO mold, she openly framed herself as the ‘least qualified CEO’ in a conventional sense, asked for help, tried to resign, and ultimately brought in an experienced general manager and strong finance leadership to run operations and supply chain while she focused on her strengths.
Addiction and mental illness devastate not only individuals but whole systems.
Nicola has now twice watched addiction and mental health crises rapidly unravel people she loved: her father, following the loss of his radio presenting career; and Brandon, following psychedelic experimentation that escalated to heavy drug use. She describes the helplessness of trying to help someone whose brain is effectively ‘speaking a different language’, the limits of involuntary treatment (multiple short sectionings across three countries), and the enduring question of whether anything more could have been done.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesWe used to have on the wall, ‘Focus is overrated.’
— Nicola Kilner
The minute it launched, we couldn’t keep it in stock… we’re producing 400,000 units every single day.
— Nicola Kilner
He’d gone from someone who, there was just so much warmth, to just this coldness in his eyes.
— Nicola Kilner
It’s hard to say if it’s regrets, but you always have those feelings of, ‘Is there anything different we could have done?’
— Nicola Kilner
You have to do the right thing even when no one is looking.
— Nicola Kilner
QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THIS EPISODE
5 questionsWhen you now look back at that Amsterdam trip and the immediate behavioral shift in Brandon, what specific early warning signs do you wish you had taken more seriously, and what would you advise other founders to do if they see similar changes in a co‑founder?
Nicola Kilner, co-founder and CEO of DECIEM and The Ordinary, recounts the meteoric rise of their skincare empire, built on radical transparency, product quality, and an almost ‘cult-like’ sense of family and belonging.
You described Estée Lauder gradually moving from 29% to full ownership over seven years; what were the toughest compromises or red lines in that partnership where you had to push back to protect DECIEM’s culture and The Ordinary’s pricing philosophy?
She details how meeting visionary founder Brandon Truaxe led her from a corporate role at Boots into a chaotic, exhilarating startup that eventually attracted a multibillion-dollar investment from Estée Lauder Companies.
Given how controversy around Brandon’s public breakdown paradoxically boosted demand for The Ordinary, how do you personally navigate the moral tension between commercial benefit and human tragedy when you think about that period?
The story turns dark as Brandon’s experimentation with psychedelics and later hard drugs seemingly triggers a rapid mental health collapse, public meltdowns on Instagram, her firing, board intervention, and ultimately his death after multiple psychiatric sectionings.
You’ve said DECIEM’s North Star is ‘belonging’; can you walk through a concrete decision—hiring, promotion, product, or policy—where you chose belonging over short‑term profit or operational convenience, and what the outcome was?
Throughout, Nicola reflects on leadership, culture, kindness, addiction, and grief, while explaining how she rebuilt DECIEM, assumed sole leadership while heavily pregnant, and continues to anchor the company in belonging and ethical growth.
Having seen both your father and Brandon spiral from loss of purpose into addiction, what practical structures or conversations do you now put in place—either for yourself or your senior team—to reduce the risk that a sudden identity or role loss could trigger a similar descent?
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