How elevated emotions and heart coherence rewire the brain

1. 0:00 – 2:10

   Intro

   1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza0:00

      75 to 90% of every person that walks into a healthcare facility in the Western world, walks in because of emotional or psychological stress. We also know that people become addicted to the stress hormones, to those emotions, and then need the bad job, they need the bad relationship, they need the traffic, they need the news just so that they can stay in that emotional state. But now you're headed for disease, because no organism can live in emergency mode for that extended period of time. But I literally can give people the tools to be able to break those emotional addictions, and our data shows it works better than any drug.

   2. SBSteven Bartlett0:32

      Dr. Joe Dispenza is a world-leading voice on the power of the mind. Whose groundbreaking research has unlocked a practical formula to empower millions of people- To rewire their minds and create long-lasting change. If I'm looking to change my life because it's in this horrible cycle of the same old, same old, and I feel about myself, what do I need to know?

   3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza0:50

      I think that the first thing is you can't tell me that your past was so brutal that you can't change, 'cause we have seen people with some really, really horrible pasts, abuses, difficult childhoods, and some very serious traumas, and we have seen them change that belief and become completely different people. But also, the research shows that 50% of the story we tell in our past isn't even the truth. That means that people are reliving a miserable life they never even had just to excuse themselves from changing, where they wait for something to go wrong in their life, and that's when they go, "Okay, I'm ready to change." Why wait for that? You know, we can learn and change in a state of pain and suffering. We can learn and change in a state of joy and inspiration. And so I wanna provide people the information on how to make new connections in their brain and be able to think, act, and feel differently in your same environment. So let's break it down.

   4. SBSteven Bartlett1:39

      This has always blown my mind a little bit: 53% of you that listen to this show regularly haven't yet subscribed to the show. So could I ask you for a favor before we start? If you like the show and you like what we do here and you wanna support us, the free, simple way that you can do just that is by hitting the subscribe button. And my commitment to you is, if you do that, then I'll do everything in my power, me and my team, to make sure that this show is better for you every single week. We'll listen to your feedback, we'll find the guests that you want me to speak to, and we'll continue to do what we do. Thank you so much.

2. 2:10 – 6:57

   What Do You Do?

   1. SBSteven Bartlett2:11

      Dr. Joe, how do you define, when someone asks you, what it is you do?

   2. JDDr. Joe Dispenza2:17

      I teach people, uh, the neuroscience and the biology of what it really means to change. And I think when we change, our life changes. So my interest is to demystify that process so that people have within their reach the tools to make measurable changes in their lives.

   3. SBSteven Bartlett2:37

      And what is it you're drawing upon? What experiences, what studies, what research are you drawing upon to give the world these solutions?

   4. JDDr. Joe Dispenza2:46

      I was interested, really, in the transcendental experience, the transcendental moment. Um, so when, when I started teaching this work, um, I taught the work because people were asking, "How do you do it?" Like, "How do you change your life and what does it mean to change?" And so I wanna provide people the information, um, where they can actually learn the information, make new connections in their brain, that's what learning is, repeat what they've learned to the person next to them, you know, uh, build a model of understanding so you can remember it, remind yourself what you've learned, because it's so much easier to forget this information than to remember it. So create a new level of mind, um, take away all the doubt, uh, the conjecture, the superstition, the dogma, and so that the person can actually understand what they're doing and why they're doing, so the how gets easier. And when the how gets easier, we assign meaning to the act 'cause we understand what we're doing. And when we do that, we want a greater outcome.

   5. SBSteven Bartlett3:48

      Mm-hmm.

   6. JDDr. Joe Dispenza3:49

      So I wanna give people the information, and I com- I looked at all the latest research that pointed the finger at human potential and human possibility. I had my own personal experience with a personal injury, we talked about it last time. I studied spontaneous remissions. I wanted to see what people had in common with each other, and I couldn't find the explanation pretty much in contemporary, uh, uh, texts. I had to start looking at neuroplasticity and epigenetics, and then I wanted to see, well, now that I know what people did and I understood what they did to have their own personal healings and transformation, um, could I reproduce the effects? Uh, knowing what they did, finding out what the commonalities were, uh, putting it in the language of science and then teaching it to people, they could be sick or they could be well, it wouldn't matter, but understand what they did in order for them to change and have their life change. And after a couple years of teaching it, we started to see kind of the same type of effects, uh, in those people that were applying and doing something with it. So, so this is a time in history where it's not enough to know. This is a time in history to know how. So when we started seeing people stepping out of wheelchairs and having dramatic changes in their health, I knew that in some moment, uh, during the retreat or during their meditation, that something happened to them. They had an experience inwardly that must have changed them biologically. In other words, if you come into a, an event and, uh, you have three days to be together and at the end of three days you're, you're no longer in your wheelchair and you no longer have symptoms of MS, that, you know, the, the human being in me said, "Wow, that's amazing." The scientist in me said, "How? Like, how did that happen?" So that's when we started doing our own independent research, and that's when I started calling in, um, scientists and, you know, biologists and, and quantum physicists and, and, and really scientists to- measuring heart rate variability, uh, to look to see what was going on, uh, in people that were coming to our events. So I could answer the question by saying now that w- the majority of the research...... uh, that I look at is our own personal research. And we have the largest database, uh, in the world now on meditation and the mind-body connection. And what we do is we really work on demystifying the process of change and transformation. And if we're able to demystify it, I think all the, all of the measurements of the transformation that we're seeing is more information for me to teach transformation better, and I think that's how we close the gap between knowledge and experience. So, we have a huge research team. We work with UC San Diego, we work with other universities like Harvard, Stanford, and the data is so compelling, uh, and the data's so, uh, amazing, uh, that, um, uh, I think we're making scientific history right now.

3. 6:57 – 8:51

   Why Do People Come to You?

   1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza6:57

   2. SBSteven Bartlett6:57

      Hundreds of millions of people have been drawn to you for their own reasons. My partner is one of them, my girlfriend. She has attended your events. She's, she's one of your biggest fans in the world, and she's experienced her own transformation as a product of attending your events. But also, last conversation, if I look at the co- top comments, it's just a string of testimonials from people who have been engaged with your work for decades, who have had personal transformation in their life and their family. What is the essence of why people come to you? Like, if you think about the hundreds of millions of people that have interacted with your work, what do they have in common? What is it they're looking for?

   3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza7:30

      People come for all kinds of reasons. The baseline is that they understand on some level that, that meditation can change s- their body and change their life. Some people, uh, understand that there's a, that they could have mystical experiences without using any exogenous substances. So, we have people to come, that come that wanna heal their body, that wanna have a new job or a new career or become abundant, people that wanna have, uh, loving relationships, and people who wanna have mystical experiences, whatever that is, right? But the, the person is coming with the intention of actually creating exactly what they want. So, they, that's the, that's what they think they're there for. But in time, um, what they're really coming for is to change. Uh, and, um, e- even the people who heal from all kinds of health conditions, what I learned in the last couple years is they're not doing their meditations to heal. They're doing their meditations to change. And when they change, they heal. And so, what they begin to crave is the next unknown experience, you know, that, that experience that exists really beyond three-dimensional reality. But, but I would say that the majority of people come for a particular reason, and after a period of time, they just wanna get more whole. And I don't think there's an end to that.

4. 8:51 – 11:59

   What Stops Us From Changing?

   1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza8:51

   2. SBSteven Bartlett8:51

      Is there a bug in our minds or in our society or within culture that stands in the way of our ability to change? And I think as I ask that question, what I'm really trying to get at is there's a culture that's emerged, almost like a bit of a trauma culture, where we, we kind of explain who we are based on what's happened to us, and it seems to be justified, i.e., "This thing happened when I was a kid, and that's why I am this way." Is that approach to viewing our trauma productive or unproductive? And is it a problem?

   3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza9:20

      The stronger the emotion we feel from some event in our life, a trauma, a betrayal, a loss, a shock, um, a diagnosis, the, the event produces an emotional response. And the c- high quotient of the emotional response changes our internal state. And the moment we feel altered inside of us, the brain takes a snapshot, freezes a frame or a series of frames, and takes snapshots, and that's called the long-term memory. So then from a biological perspective, every time the person remembers the problem, they're producing the exact same chemistry in their brain and body...

   4. SBSteven Bartlett10:05

      Cortisol.

   5. JDDr. Joe Dispenza10:05

      ... as if the event was happening.

   6. SBSteven Bartlett10:07

      Okay.

   7. JDDr. Joe Dispenza10:07

      Cortisol, the adrenaline, whatever the emotion is. When they feel that emotion, we could say then that the body is reliving the event emotionally 50 to 100 times in a day.

   8. SBSteven Bartlett10:21

      Wow.

   9. JDDr. Joe Dispenza10:21

      So, y- the trauma's no longer in the brain at that point. Now the trauma is also in the body because thoughts are the language of the brain, and feelings are the language of the body. And it's that thought and that feeling, it's that image and that emotion, it's that stimulus and response, that's conditioning the body subconsciously to become the mind of that emotion. And now that person emotionally is abran- branded into the past. And you can say to them, "Why are you this way? Why are you so angry? Why are you so bitter? Why are you so mistrusting? Why are you so afraid?" And they'll say to you, "I am this way because of these events or that event that happened to me in my life 20 or 30 years ago." Now, this is kind of an interesting thing because, in a sense, their identity is completely connected to their past, and they, as long as they feel that emotion, uh, they'll always remember the past. So now, the body is so objective when it feels that emotion, it does not know the difference between the real-life experience that's creating the emotion and the emotion that person is fabricating by thought alone. So now, the body's believing it's living in a past event 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, but what the person is really saying is, "After that event, I haven't been able to change."

   10. SBSteven Bartlett11:48

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JDDr. Joe Dispenza11:48

       That's what they're saying. And so, that becomes the person's identity, and there's nothing wrong with this. But you'll never hear me say, uh,

5. 11:59 – 16:24

   Don't Process the Past

   1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza11:59

      in any of the work that we do, uh, "Go back and process the past." Um, (laughs) uh, we- we've discovered that when a person th- uh, analyzes, uh, their problems, uh, within the emotions of the past, um...... or they make their brain worse. They actually drive it further out of balance, they're, they're over-arousing it. We discovered is that if the person can get beyond the emotion, truly get beyond the emotion, uh, they'll free themselves from the past. And what we discovered is that if you teach a person to give up the fear, the bitterness, the resentment, the frustration, the impatience, the judgment, you say, "Stop feeling that emotion." I know there's a reason why, I'm sure everybody's got a story, right? So, but, there's nothing that's going to change that story until you change, right? And so, we discovered that if you trade those emotions for an elevated emotion, if you start feeling gratitude, and appreciation, and love, and kindness, and care, and you practice feeling that emotion, we give you some tools to, to use, to change your breathing, to put your attention in a different place, and to work with your body. What we discovered is that when the person can truly begin to open their heart, and we have brain scans on this, when the heart begins to open and it begins to become coherent, in other words, when you're fear- feeling, uh, frustration or impatience or judgment, your heart is beating very incoherently. When you're feeling love and gratitude, kindness and care, there's a rhythm, there's a, there's a cadence that the heart has that's, that's very coherent. When the heart gets coherent, we measure this, it immediately informs the brain that the trauma is over. The heart tells the brain, "The past is over. The event is over," and it resets the baseline, uh, in the brain. And so now the person, when they look back at their past, they're no longer looking at it from the same level of consciousness. In fact, many of them will say, "Oh my God, I needed to go through all of that to get to this point right here." They'll tell you, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll say, "I wouldn't wanna change one thing in my past because it got me to the present moment." Okay. So, we work with Navy SEALS, special ops, prisoners. We work with people, uh, that have had some very serious traumas, uh, really serious abuses, um, uh, um, uh, just difficult childhoods. Uh, these people are, you know, night terrors, uh, suicidal, um, can't, you know, leave their homes, uh, socially, uh, uh, uh, uh, having trouble, panic attacks. It's kind of funny because the moment that person actually breaks through from the emotion, and th- the words they typically describe is they say, "It was like my heart exploded." It's like, "My heart blew wide open." The moment that happens, they're bringing their body right out of the past, right into the present moment, and lo and behold, many times, there goes the anxiety, there goes the depression, there goes the cyclic mood patterns. Somehow the body, uh, gets recalibrated back into order and back into homeostasis. So, the point I'm making is, is that the memory without the emotional charge is called wisdom, and now you're, you're ready for the next adventure in your life. The soul can't go to the next adventure if it's holding onto the past. So we don't really ever address the story because the story is only firing and wiring the same circuits in the brain, reaffirming the identity to the past, just to feel the same emotion, and the research shows that 50% of the story we tell in our past isn't even the truth.

   2. SBSteven Bartlett16:00

      Hmm.

   3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza16:00

      That means that people are reliving a miserable life they never even had just to excuse themselves from changing, right? And I'm not taking shots at anybody, but what I am saying is you can't tell me that your past was so brutal that you can't change 'cause we have seen people with some really, really horrible pasts, um, that literally, literally are, are completely different people that have completely different lives.

6. 16:24 – 21:49

   What Are We Getting Wrong About Trauma in Modern Society?

   1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza16:24

   2. SBSteven Bartlett16:24

      I really wanna focus in on what it is we're getting wrong when we're trying to t- treat trauma in modern society, because I see all of these retreats that are like inner child healing, and they kind of take you back to when you were a young child, the thing that happened to you, whatever happened in your life, and they kind of walk you back through it. Um, there's also various types of therapy that make you kind of recount the events, and then they ask you questions about it. You're saying that you don't feel like those approaches are optimal because they just keep you in that circuit of living, reliving the emotion.

   3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza16:55

      No, I, I wouldn't say they're not optimal. I mean, I'm sure there's value for people. All I'm saying is that, um, when does the story end? And I'm not certain that insight changes behavior. You could have a realization or even from a, an exogenous drug, you can have a realization or an insight, but if you still can't function in your life and you're still, you know, y- you haven't connected with your wife or, you know, you're still dealing with trauma, it, it hasn't served you at all. Like, so the insight that your, your father was overbearing, or your mother was a perfectionist, or you were beaten as a kid, uh, and that's why you're this way, it doesn't change the behavior, right?

   4. SBSteven Bartlett17:34

      Let me give you an example then from my life 'cause this will make it really specific.

   5. JDDr. Joe Dispenza17:37

      Yeah.

   6. SBSteven Bartlett17:37

      So when I was young, something I've talked about on the show, but it's just an example that allows me to think through, um, your approach. My mom and dad argued a lot, and I would watch my mother in particular spend a lot of time s- shouting at my dad. My dad didn't really respond. He was very passive, and it made me feel a certain way as a young child, which meant that when I grew up, I just wanted to avoid women at all costs in terms of romantic c- commitment because I was almost reliving the emotion of imprisonment that I observed in my father, so I felt like when a girl was interested in me, throughout all of my teen years, throughout my early 20s, even if I was interested in her, the minute we came to commitment, I'd get that feeling like I was signing up for prison and I would reject. Now-I got an insight into this by writing in my diary, actually from doing this podcast, 'cause I used to do it on my own, just solo episodes. And I could see a pattern. I could see that someone asks me to commit, I get this weird feeling, I reject them. And then I ask myself, "Where did that weird feeling come from in your past?" And I remembered, oh, that's how I felt watching my father and my mum when she would just, um, scream at him for long periods of time. I had the insight, which was somewhat useful, but you're right, in that it didn't necessarily stop, (laughs) stop the feeling.

   7. JDDr. Joe Dispenza18:50

      But, but, but what you did really well is, is in order for us to change, we have to become so conscious of those unconscious beliefs... And what's a belief? A thought you just keep thinking over and over again, or how you've been programmed, right? It's a belief. We have to become so aware of our automatic habits and behaviors, and we have to pay attention to our emotional states if we're going to change. And staying conscious of our unconscious self is, is, is really the, the work that it takes to really overcome so you can become another person. That's 95% of a person by their, the middle of their life, their, you know, hardwired attitudes, beliefs and perceptions, automatic habits and behaviors and unconscious emotional responses. 95% of us is programmed. So as a child, your brain waves are, um, very slow. The door between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind is wide open. Your brain waves are in alpha and theta, and so you're very suggestible to, to the information. And so your exposure to that caused you to learn that that... You know, your observation caused you to get programmed to that's the way life is, by, by mirror neurons looking at behaviors that are being programmed in you. So, so but that's not who you are, right? So, the fact that you became conscious, like, "Oh my God, I do this. Oh my God, I see where I got it from. Okay, that doesn't mean that, that I'm gonna excuse myself and say I can't be in relationships." You could. Some people do that. Might be a different belief, but they do that. But you said, "I really wanna have a meaningful relationship. I really wanna overcome this. This is part of me that I wanna change," right? So, so you recognize that. That's called metacognition, all right? The, the fact that you can objectify your subjective self and observe yourself, that's consciousness, right?

   8. SBSteven Bartlett20:42

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JDDr. Joe Dispenza20:42

      And when you're conscious, then that's when you're not unconscious. (laughs)

   10. SBSteven Bartlett20:45

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JDDr. Joe Dispenza20:46

       And being unconscious is being in the program. So how many times do we have to forget until we stop forgetting and start remembering? That's the moment of change. So you said, "Okay, that's uncomfortable. Hmm, that must mean something," and you actually went on a, a personal exploration.

   12. SBSteven Bartlett21:02

       Yeah.

   13. JDDr. Joe Dispenza21:03

       Do something with the insight, with the provocation, with the interest of actually wanting to change yourself in some way so that you create a, a greater experience of life, th- that there is love and life, and that you can have a committed relationship, and it could be different from your parents. And now you know what you're not gonna be, right? So, I think all of that is valuable. I think every experience that we have in our life that programs us to be a certain way, sooner or later if we're, if we're interested in arriving at the goals and dreams that we want, w- there's... We have to leave that behind. Sooner or later, a part of us must die. Uh, and sooner or later we have to leave that. So, I think y- I think that's, that's evolution.

7. 21:49 – 22:36

   Step 1: Insight, Awareness & Consciousness

   1. SBSteven Bartlett21:49

      That first... Is the first step insight? Like, is this a, a sequential, multi-step process to change?

   2. JDDr. Joe Dispenza21:56

      I think that f- I think insight is an aspect of, um, awareness.

   3. SBSteven Bartlett22:01

      So, is awareness stage one?

   4. JDDr. Joe Dispenza22:02

      Yeah. So, consciousness is awareness, and awareness is paying attention and noticing. So I think that, I think the first step is to become conscious, um, that we're a certain way. And sometimes it lands as an insight or a download or a life experience that just kind of goes, you go, "Whoa." Like, I, you know, so... "I, I behave this way," or, "I did this thing," so, so I think, I think when you don't have that, you don't have a conscience, and you can just, and you can just keep staying in that world. And, but, but sooner or later, uh, you

8. 22:36 – 25:20

   How to Increase Your Awareness

   1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza22:36

      have to become aware.

   2. SBSteven Bartlett22:37

      How do I increase my awareness?

   3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza22:38

      By paying attention.

   4. SBSteven Bartlett22:41

      Is there a practice or a system or a process?

   5. JDDr. Joe Dispenza22:44

      Yeah, yeah. But what, what we know is that, that the, the more you practice being present, the better you get at it.

   6. SBSteven Bartlett22:55

      Okay.

   7. JDDr. Joe Dispenza22:55

      And so, how do you do that? If you sit in a meditation, right? And so there's a mode in the brain called default mode, and it's just always busy. It's consuming enormous amounts of energy in the brain, and it's always trying to predict the future based on what it knows in the past. It's a, kind of an anticipation machine. It's always trying to, um, fill in a known, in reality, so we feel safe. So, a default mode system in the brain, when you close your eyes in a meditation, is going to immediately go into overdrive. It's gonna say, "Oh, my back hurts a little bit. I'm kinda thirsty. How long is this gonna go? I really don't wanna do this. I don't like the music." You know? Uh, "This'll go, this might be too long. Oh, I'm starting to get a little frustrated. I wanna lay down." You know, all this stuff comes up, and then people have the belief, and they say, "I can't meditate." That's, that's their conclusion from the experience. That's their, "I'm not a good meditator," that's their affirmation, that's their belief, right? From that experience. But if you say to a person, "Listen, that's normal, but every time you catch yourself going unconscious, catch yourself going unconscious and become conscious, that's a victory." And as tedious as it may be in the beginning, the more you catch yourself going unconscious and becoming conscious, the more conscious you become in your life. And, and all of a sudden, you begin to pay attention to things that you weren't paying attention to before. So-In the work that we do, we say that being in the present moment, truly in the present moment, is being comfortable in the unknown, right? The present moment is the unknown because there is the familiar past that we feel emotionally, and we have the predictable future, which are both the knowns. Being in the present moment is being in the unknown, and that goes against thousands of years of programming because bo- our biology is programmed that if we are truly in the unknown, we should be in survival. Because if you're in survival and you're in the fight-or-flight system, the unknown is a threat, it's a danger. So always try to predict the future based on the past, and you'll have better chances of survival. Predict the worst case scenario and be ready for that, anything less that happens, you have better chance of surviving. So

9. 25:20 – 29:38

   The Meditation Process

   1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza25:20

      then to rest in the unknown goes against a lot of our biology, and we discovered that when a person keeps doing it over and over again, the body gets agitated, it gets frustrated, it gets impatient. Instead of the person saying, "I quit," give them something to do and they can lower the volume to the emotion and settle the animal down, like training an animal, setting, settling the body back down into the present moment. We, we teach people how to do that, and that's the victory.

   2. SBSteven Bartlett25:50

      Giving them something to do?

   3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza25:52

      Yeah. They have it, they have something to do when that comes up. Okay?

   4. SBSteven Bartlett25:55

      Which is?

   5. JDDr. Joe Dispenza25:56

      I'll, I'll get to it in a second. And if they catch their mind going from a person to another person to another object, to their cellphone, to their computer, to a place they need to be, and, you know, it's a time, and then they're ... And they catch themselves with their brain firing m- in modulated compartments, if they keep catching themselves doing that, if they keep doing that and they, they catch the circuit when it's firing and they settle it down, in time, sooner or later, they're gonna stop firing those circuits in the brain. And their brainwaves begin to change from an agitated, aroused state into a more coherent and slower brainwave state. So when they do this enough times, the brain begins to synchronize, the brain begins to fire in greater levels of wholeness or greater levels of order. So when that occurs then, the nervous system gets very regulated, gets very orderly. The autonomic nervous system moves into a state of regulation. Dysregulation of the autonomic nervous system is called stress, right? So to answer your question, when people do this really well, in just a few days, they'll get really good at it. The side effect of that is they get very relaxed in their heart. It's relaxed in the heart, and it's awake in the brain. And the more relaxed you get in your heart, we've discovered, really relaxing into your heart, the more the heart informs the brain to get creative. And so now the person has this kind of synchronization that's taking place between their heart and their brain as well, and they can rest in the present moment. So the way you do that is you define what it really means to change, and to change is to be greater than the conditions in your environment, to be able to think, act, and feel differently in your same environment. That's what change is. To change is to be greater than your body, to be greater than its drives. In the meditation, I'm speaking specifically. Greater than its emotional responses, its memories, its emotional reactions, greater than its habits. A habit is when you've done something so many times the body knows how to do it better than the conscious mind there. That's so ... So if you're sitting in a meditation, your body wants to get up and wants to get going, you got people to see, things to do. That, that's kind of like automatic, right? And people get up and they say, "I can't meditate." But if you tell them that when you notice that, you bring your body back into the present moment, you settle it down and tell it it's no longer the mind, that you're the mind, you're training the animal, sooner or later the body literally responds to a new mind, and there's literally a liberation of energy, and the body begins to liberate energy. And if the person's not thinking about time, if you're not thinking about where you need to be, where you need to go, where you were yesterday, where you're sitting, where you live, w- you know? If you're not thinking about any place, you can go from somewhere to nowhere. And if you're not thinking about the predictable future or the familiar past, you can go from some time to no time. And we discovered when a person becomes nobody, no one, no thing, nowhere, and no time, l- they literally become pure consciousness. And opening our awareness d- I know this is kind of difficult to explain because we're materialists. Opening our awareness to nothing and sensing space tends to cause us to move more into the eternal present moment, and there's a change that takes place in the brain. So we teach that.

10. 29:38 – 35:09

    How Meditation Takes You Out of Difficult Situations

    1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza29:38

    2. SBSteven Bartlett29:38

       And what awareness comes out of that state? So if I'm looking to change my life because, you know, I'm continually performing habits that are not optimal, you know, I wanna be married and have a family, and I wanna be productive in my work, and I wanna go to the gym and et cetera, and my life is just in this horrible cycle of the same old, same old, same old, and I feel shit about myself. I know what I say I want, but I feel shit about myself. W- what's gonna emerge from that process of deep meditation-

    3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza30:06

       Yeah.

    4. SBSteven Bartlett30:06

       ... in terms of awareness?

    5. JDDr. Joe Dispenza30:08

       You'll become so conscious of those unconscious habits that more than likely, you won't wanna do them again. And that's what, uh, uh, for the most part change is about. So I think people wait for crisis, you know, they wait for disease, they wait for a betrayal, something to go wrong in their life, and that's when they go, "Okay, I'm ready to change."My message is, why wait, dude? Like, why wait for that, you know? We can learn and change in a state of pain and suffering. We can learn and change in a state of joy and inspiration. So then, you get a collective group of people together that really may have all those bad habits. They, they, they may even have bad habits that they don't even know they have. And then, all of a sudden, they become aware that they've been blaming and complaining and making excuses and feeling sorry for themselves and procrastinating, and they start to reason, "If my personality creates my personal reality, if I'm gonna create a new personal reality, I gotta change my personality. (laughs) 'Cause this guy, that, that, that's this, isn't the guy that wants to be happy. This is the guy who's committed to being unhappy." Okay, let's break it down, break it down to fundamentals, and now we give them a roadmap of their thoughts, behaviors, and emotions that they're, that they have lived by as, as a person Uh-

    6. SBSteven Bartlett31:29

       Is that step two?

    7. JDDr. Joe Dispenza31:29

       Yeah, you could say that step two is, is becoming conscious of your unconscious self and then becoming conscious of a new self, reinventing a new self. And so, the person who's, uh, feeling really bad about themselves because they're not, they're not doing anything to change, it's just because, um, when you're not changing, you're still choosing. Uh, but what you're choosing is something that makes you feel familiar and comfortable, because the moment you decide to change, truly get serious about change, the moment you decide to make a different choice and do something differently, you are going to feel uncomfortable. It's going to be immediate. And that's the moment you go from the known into the unknown. Now, if the body has been emotionally conditioned to be the mind, like we talked about earlier, the servant is the master, and so the person who steps out into the unknown and it feels uncomfortable, what is the body gonna say? "Get back to suffering." (laughs) Get back to feeling bad, get back to feeling guilty. At least that's familiar. That's known. So tell a person, "There's gonna be a biological death of the old self. Neurologically, chemically, hormonally, genetically, th- there's, the old self's gonna die. Just know that that's gonna happen. But instead of white-knuckling it across the river of change, we're gonna give you something to do, because that unknown place is the perfect place to create in. So let's get you into the unknown, but let's get you there where you're relaxed and awake. You're not escaping. And if you do that really well, you're b- you'll be in a creative state, so you actually will be out of survival, and you'll be able to create, because you could only be in survival or creation. Can't be in both."

    8. SBSteven Bartlett33:11

       (sighs)

    9. JDDr. Joe Dispenza33:11

       "So let's get your body physiologically back in the balance. Let's get it there. Now who do you wanna be? What do you wanna believe? L- let's review that. What's a belief? A thought you keep thinking over and over in your brain. Keep remembering to think this way in your meditation. How am I gonna be with my ex or my boss? Let me close my eyes and think about what greatness looks like, what forgiveness would do, what love would do. Let me just, let me close my eyes and mentally rehearse how I'm gonna be in that circumstance. I'm gonna keep remembering to do these things so I don't forget. Keep doing it over and over again." You start installing the hardware. Repeat it enough times, it gets like a software program. You start behaving that way automatically. And then, my goodness, is it possible to teach our body emotionally how we do wanna feel before it happens. In other words, don't wait for your wealth to feel abundant, or your, your success to feel empowered, or your healing to feel wholeness. That's waiting for something in your outer world to change to take away the, the emptiness or lack that you're feeling in your inner world. Teach your body emotionally what it feels like ahead of the actual experience, and the moment you start feeling abundant and you're generating wealth, the moment you can embody empowerment, you're stepping towards your wo- well, your success, the moment you feel grateful and whole, b- the healing begins, right? So now you're starting to cause an effect in your life. So have the person keep remembering to feel that way and have them practice. Sooner or later, they'll start feeling that way more, and the more they feel that way, the more they'll believe in their future. And some people get so good at doing it that they walk around feeling that emotion, they feel like their future has already happened. And when you feel like the future has already happened, you stop looking for it, and that's when the magic starts to take place in people's lives, the synchronicities, the coincidences, the opportunities, they s- start coming to them in their life.

    10. SBSteven Bartlett35:05

        Yeah.

    11. JDDr. Joe Dispenza35:05

        And, and that's the reflection of their own personal change.

11. 35:09 – 40:26

    Why Can't Some People Change?

    1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza35:09

    2. SBSteven Bartlett35:09

       I've seen thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of testimonials of people saying, "Joe Dispenza cha- changed my life." I mean, I've got one at home, right? I've got a testimonial that I live with.

    3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza35:19

       (laughs)

    4. SBSteven Bartlett35:20

       Um...

    5. JDDr. Joe Dispenza35:21

       I'm sorry. (laughs)

    6. SBSteven Bartlett35:22

       No, no, it's, uh, no, honestly, I, I love it because she's so, she's probably back there somewhere, but she's so passionate and inquisitive and curious that I almost vicariously am benefiting from the, like, work and research she's doing, and she's bringing things into our relationship and life that are making it more f- rich and full. And I have a certain perspective which I wouldn't naturally go into that world, and even with breath work and the other things that she's brought into our relationship, I wouldn't have naturally gone there, so it's super useful. But there must be instances where you've met someone and you've tried to help them and you've been unsuccessful.

    7. JDDr. Joe Dispenza35:56

       Of course.

    8. SBSteven Bartlett35:57

       And why don't those people change? Because I'm assuming that you think most people can change, they have the propensity to change. Why does it not work sometimes?

    9. JDDr. Joe Dispenza36:09

       You know, scientists ask me this, you know, we talk about this all the time. Uh, sometimes, uh, being in such severe lack, uh, of, and desperation, desperation, you know, uh, creates a state where you can't hear anything, um, because you're, you, you don't, you... No new information-... can enter the nervous system that is not equal to the emotion the person is experiencing. As an ex- just as a broad understanding, this is why we don't do questions at our events, because you can give the person the answer to the question that they're asking you, and they will not hear you. They will not hear you. In fact, they will argue against you. But if you get that person out of that emotional state, and the only person that's gonna do that is them, by the way, get that person out of their emotional state, they can hear that information. So, sometimes we're programmed into such lack, we're programmed, right, to wait for something out there to change to take away this emptiness or lack, you know, when the, this happens, I'll feel this, you know? And so when things are good in our life, we feel good, and when things aren't so good in our life, we feel bad. So we're kind of victimized to the circumstances in our life. It's, uh, our outer world is controlling our inner world of thoughts and feelings. So, if a person has been programmed into saying, um, "I, I, I, I, I, I, why haven't I healed?" Or, "W- w- w- why hasn't this happened in my life?" Because the person who's saying, "Why haven't I healed" is the old self. The new self would never say that, right? The new self is too busy overcoming and becoming, right? So, I think people meet information, uh, at their own level. But what I can tell you that is so compelling and so exciting is that when we get people on the stage, and it happens every event, that it's, it's really, uh, quite unbelievable. To see a person stand on the stage in front of 2,300 people, you would walk right past her in the grocery store. Um, she doesn't look vegan. She doesn't look ketogenic. She doesn't look particularly fit, or young, or dressed well, you know, whatever that is. She just looks like a normal person. And they stand on the stage and they tell their story of how they were diagnosed with cancer, or, um, whatever the condition is, and what they did, uh, in their life to change those health conditions, and there's numerous health conditions. When I look out in the audience, uh, and I look at people, uh, m- there isn't a soul in the audience that isn't leaning in. Everybody is leaning in because there's the example of truth on the stage, and there's nothing like a good story, right? So, the change that we're seeing in our community is that there's a greater acceptance, a greater belief, a greater understanding, a greater awareness to the idea that you could actually heal because people witness it, and the person in the audience who's seeing that person who healed themselves from whatever health condition it is relates to them, and they say, "My God, if, if that person can do it, I can do it as well." And just like an infection spreads amongst the c- uh, uh, a culture and creates disease, health and wellness can become as infectious as disease, right? And so, we have... it's not uncommon, like when that person stands on the stage and they're the four-minute mile, if the person has Raynaud's syndrome, we've had events where four other people with Raynaud's syndrome healed at the end of the event, like no longer have any symptoms at all. Or we've had five people in one event step out of a wheelchair. Now, if you asked me if I ever thought that was possible, I would say no. So I do think, uh, when a person sees that example of truth, their awareness of possibility begins to change, and, um, the evidence then allows the person to increase their own belief, uh, in, in themselves and in possibility.

12. 40:26 – 44:17

    Is the Identity We've Created Helping or Hurting Us?

    1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza40:26

    2. SBSteven Bartlett40:26

       You used the word earlier on, the word identity, and I've been pondering over the last couple of weeks whether identity is useful 'cause, this is a really trivial example, but I've told myself for a long time I don't like running, and this Christmas I decided that it's probably important for me to take on some of these limiting beliefs I have, so I just started running. And i- in doing so, in going through the pain of like, "Oh, my legs hurt," whatever, I had this sort of realization that like, what other areas of my life have I just created a story that is closing in on me and making my life more narrow and, uh, in terms of how I think or like my health or whatever? And I, and I, and I, so for the last couple weeks, I've really been thinking about this concept of identity, like what it is, why we create one, and how harmful or positive it might be to all of us.

    3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza41:12

       Yeah. Well, look, I mean, I don't, I think we're all a work in progress, right? I think w- m- it's an uncovering process. So ... I, I always tell people, "You can be anybody you want. You can be any character you want to be in three-dimensional reality, in this, in this kind of virtual reality experience. You get to put on any character." But when it comes time to create, when it comes time to connect, you gotta lay down that character. You gotta lay down the identity. You gotta lay down that person, right? And some people are s- uh, have become so, uh, uh, idealized to their identity that they can't be anything else, and so, uh, I don't think the identity is bad. I think, I think as long as w- uh, as long as we're able to lay it down, uh, when we create, it's important, and by the same means. If there are aspects of your personality or your identity that is undermining, um, your life in some way, uh, and this happens to so many people we see, even with, you know, when they're, when they're getting healings, that they, they, their blood values get better, and then they get back into their life, and then con- and the blood values go back up, and then they get more healings and their blood values go down, and they go back into their life. And sooner or later, this goes on four or five times, they say, "Is it me?" Like...... do I have something to do with this? And, and the answer is always yes. H- If you, if you want to take this on, you can't take, you can't take one bite, you got to actually eat the whole thing. So, so the, so then what aspect of your identity then is limiting you, uh, and what is that story that you're saying to reaffirm it to be the truth? And is it really the truth? And if it's not the truth, then you got to make a decision, and you got to make a decision with such firm intention to change that belief that the amplitude of that choice carries a level of energy that causes your body to respond to your mind, that the choice that you're making in that moment becomes a moment in time that you'll never forget. In other words, you have to say, "I knew exactly where I was, what I was doing, what time of day it was when I made up my mind to change." Right? It becomes a long-term memory, and the stronger emotion, the stronger the emotion you feel when you make that choice, the more you remember the choice, right? And so you can't say, "Oh, well, I think, uh, I'm going to change this kind of part of my identity." Uh, your, your body's gonna say, "He's lying. Like, he's not serious. He's gonna still make the same choice." When you say, "This is it. I don't care how long it takes, time, I don't care how I feel, body, I don't care what people think of me or what's going on in my life, environment, I'm gonna change," and you come out of your arresting state and you make that choice, you're giving your body a taste of the future emotionally. That's what you're doing. And so people who make up their mind to change, they have to come out of their arresting state, and they have to say th- "I'm doing this." And, and that is a, a strong signal in

13. 44:17 – 47:17

    You Need to Be Specific With Your Goals

    1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza44:17

       the field.

    2. SBSteven Bartlett44:18

       So does that mean that if I do want to change, and I need that kind of escape velocity from my old self, the why, the reason must be abundantly clear and incredibly strong? So if I'm in the, if I'm making a New Year's resolution, I'm not gonna just say, "Listen, uh, I want this New Year's resolution because I think people will think better of me if I have it." It's gotta be so deep in my core, and I've gotta be so clear and be able to articulate the reason why this matters to me for it to stand a chance?

    3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza44:43

       Yeah. We call that assigning meaning. Like, uh, so it's so important to assign meaning to the task or the act that we're, uh, engaging, and one of the best ways to do that is to hold that vision or the dream of why you're doing it. Eh, I wanna be healthier, I wanna be more fit, I wanna be more wealthy, I wanna be more free, I wanna be more in love, whatever it is. Th- the only thing that's stopping you from being any of those things is just a part of your identity that has to change so that you get there, and it's- nothing's mystical about this. If you said, "I wanna be wealthy," this is your goal, this is your vision, and here you are in lack, the only way you're gonna get wealthy is this person's gonna have to change a lot to find that wealth, right? So there's nothing, there's nothing mystical about this. We've all done it at some point in our life where we just made up our mind, and, and, and w- what did we do when we, when we did it? We got very clear, like, "Okay, uh, let me remind myself what that vision is. I just gotta remember why am I doing this. Okay, so I'm gonna have to make a different choice. Let me write down those choices I have to make. I'm gonna have to start doing different things. Okay, and what am I gonna do? Let me remind myself what I need to do. Okay, why am I doing it? I'm doing it for this experience. Yeah, I know it might hurt my legs in the beginning," or whatever it is. "I know it may be a little uncomfortable, but I'm going for this goal. This is my goal." And, and, and the more we fascinate about that experience, the more we start feeling the emotion of that future. That's when your body, what we've discovered, is beginning to biologically change, because it's starting to feel the emotion of the future ahead of time, right? So that keeps a person on the journey, and then we do something really great. We say, "What, what thoughts, um, do I wanna stay away from?" Like, I k- I can't say I- There's no way I'm gonna say, "I can't feel like it." I mean, if you're truly committed to being healthy, and you're gonna exercise you can never say, "I'm too tired." You can never say, "I don't feel like it." That's gonna cause you to not make the choice, right? So it's kind of this process where we're kind of doing that exact thing. We're actually, uh, looking at the old identity, and we're, we're reminding ourselves of who we want to become, right? Un- un- until you become it. And we discovered it's the overcoming process that is the becoming process. When the person overcomes some belief, some behavior, um, some emotion, when they truly overcome it, they naturally become somebody else. It's- it's just a side effect. Their- their work in doing that makes them love themselves

14. 47:17 – 51:24

    Crazy Stories of War Veterans' Transformations

    1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza47:17

       more.

    2. SBSteven Bartlett47:18

       You also have a lot of case studies of... I was reading, a l- a lot of them a- from army veterans and people that have been through pretty horrific experiences in the army. I was reading a story of Joshua, who was a army veteran, who I believe came to one of your events and took part in your meditation and described i- in his own words as, "His heart cracked wide open."

    3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza47:39

       Yeah.

    4. SBSteven Bartlett47:40

       What happened with Joshua? 'Cause that's a good example of personal transformation.

    5. JDDr. Joe Dispenza47:43

       Well, um, we, we have a program right now in the veterans, the Navy SEALs, Special Ops, um, e- simply because there's lots of stories like, like Joshua, where, um, you know, he was pretty much ready to give up on his life, and many of these veterans, you know, they, they, they cope to the best of their ability, but they, in the back of their mind, they have an exit plan. They, they have the drugs ready. Uh, they're, you know, thinking about, uh, taking their life. Many of them think this way, and they've done, uh, so many different, um, uh, types of things to help themselves, and even, even a lot of them have done, uh, plant medicine and, and mushrooms and, you know, m- ketamine and all kinds of things to, to help them, but on some level, their, their PTSD, um...... wouldn't, doesn't go away, and, and Joshua's a great example because he was at the, the very bottom of the, the point in his life where he was ready to give up. And, you know, the thing that I like to do with veterans is to reason with them. If you have a, if you have a, a Navy SEAL, right? (laughs) And these are elite individuals. If I tell them exactly what will happen if they practice opening their heart, if, if I say to them it's going to reset the baseline for trauma in the brain, they don't say, "How do I do it?" They say, "Yes, sir." Like, "I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do it until it, till it happens." And that's what happens to all of these guys. They're, they get, they're, they, there's so much trauma in their brain and body, there's so much incoherence in their nervous system, there's so many physical problems that they're having, uh, that they, that they, they, they're just f- really out of balance. So if we, if we work with these people and give them all the n- information and give them numerous opportunities to apply it, so many of them break through, and that's the moment, um, their brain and body literally are, are no longer connected to the memory, uh, or, or the emotion that keeps them in the past. And, and they get recalibrated.

    6. SBSteven Bartlett49:51

       And he was a drug addict, an alcoholic, a victim of child abuse.

    7. JDDr. Joe Dispenza49:55

       Yeah.

    8. SBSteven Bartlett49:56

       And the before and after of Joshua...

    9. JDDr. Joe Dispenza49:58

       Dramatic. Yeah, dramatic. Um, again, you know, we interview a lot of these veterans, you know, and we did, uh, we interviewed this... He didn't know anything about meditation. This guy n- never meditated in his life, you know, he, he didn't know anything about me. He didn't know any... He didn't even know where he was going. This is how blind the study was. And he got there, and he was just like, "There's no way, like, I'm gonna hang out with all these people." You know, he was real, you know, in, in... you know, always on guard. And, uh, they asked him in front of the camera, like, "My goodness," like, "What happened?" And he, and, like, he got... R- this is a guy that looks like a Navy SEAL, and he paused for, like, a minute, and he was, got so emotional, and he said, "I, I got my life back. I got my life back. I got... every... my, my marriage is great again. I'm in love with my kids. I can feel again. Uh, I'm happy. Like, I'm not faking it. I really feel a change." You know, so that's how the veter- the vet program kind of grew, because the veteran program was just a few vets coming that were, again, injured in some way, physically or emotionally, and completely different at the end of the event. They're gonna go tell their tribe, like, right away, like, "You gotta do this. This really helped me." So we have a strong veteran community and, you know, we have our, uh, one of our non-profits, The Give to Give Foundation, that works with veterans, and we create all kinds of programs for them to heal, and, and we're super proud of the results we're getting.

15. 51:24 – 54:11

    The Importance of Forgiveness

    1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza51:24

    2. SBSteven Bartlett51:24

       Someone like Joshua has been through so much in their life, where an objective observer would say, "It is warranted that they might be living in a state of victimhood." How important is it to forgive?

    3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza51:38

       I think it's really, uh, one of the fundamental things that keep us alive. I mean, forgiveness, to me, is just overcoming the emotion. That's it. And, like, if you overcome the emotion, the side effect of that is that your heart will open. That's exactly what happens. And when ener- energy moves into the heart, we start releasing different chemicals than we f- when we feel angry, or we feel victimized, or when we feel sexual. It's just a different chemical elixir, and oxytocin is released, and oxytocin signals nitric oxide, and nitric oxide signals another chemical that causes the arteries in your heart to literally dilate. The heart gets filled with energy. It's engorged with blood. When that occurs, the oxytocin levels that you're feeling, the love that you're feeling, um, the studies show that when oxytocin levels are just elevated a little bit, it's really hard to hold a grudge.

    4. SBSteven Bartlett52:35

       Hmm.

    5. JDDr. Joe Dispenza52:35

       You just can't, right? So if you're willing to forgive, and you overcome the emotion, you'll take your attention off the person, or the problem, right? Because the stronger the emotion we have, the more we pay attention to our problems or that person, right? Overcome the emotion, you no longer have your attention on that person, and in a sense, you're taking energy and you're calling it back to you, right? So you're building your own field. And so f- love is the elixir that allows us to forgive. In other words, you can't say, "I'm gonna forgive you. It's, uh, January 31st or February 1st, remember this day, y- we got a thing, I forgave you." S- that's not like forgiveness. When people really have that feeling of pure love, where they've actually gotten over the emotion, they have already forgiven. They're like, "I'm totally cool. I'm great. You're great. I'm great." Like, so it's a side effect of a change, because if the stronger the emotion we feel, the more we pay attention to that person, uh, where we place our attention is where we place our energy. Okay? Overcome the emotion, you no longer have your attention on that person. You're calling energy back to you, and you're building your own field. Then there's energy now to heal. There's energy now to create. There's energy now for the mystical experience. And so you can't do that if you're feeling frustrated, or if you're feeling anger. If you're feeling resentment, you'll always hold a grudge. You have to convert. You have to teach p- a person how to get into that elevated state, and the side effect of that is forgiveness. It's not something that you have to do. It's just something that automatically happens.

16. 54:11 – 55:22

    Should We Forgive Anyone No Matter What?

    1. SBSteven Bartlett54:11

       When we think about forgiving people that have wronged us, our dad when we were younger, that person at work, you know, the, the boss that fired us, or even something that happened that's significantly worse, it almost feels like a justification or an acceptance of what happened to us, which makes it feel like there's an injustice in the world. Like, if I forgive that person, I'm letting them off.

    2. JDDr. Joe Dispenza54:32

       Yeah.

    3. SBSteven Bartlett54:33

       Do you think we should always forgive everybody in all circumstances?

    4. JDDr. Joe Dispenza54:36

       Yeah, I think so. I mean, because, I mean, you free yourself.The only way you're going to free yourself from that person, uh, or from that past experience is for you to literally overcome the emotion. So, um, God, we've all had people do really horrible things, and we've probably done some horrible things to people as well. Um, but I don't think, uh, you can free yourself or free them unless you decide that, um, you know, love is going to be the thing that heals it. And, and, God, so many people do it in our work, and, and the side effect of it is that they, they, they have wonderful effects in their lives, many times just healing.

    5. SBSteven Bartlett55:16

       There is a chronic stress in society that seems to be going in one direction. It seems to be going up and up and up. And I was wondering if that ties into the subject

17. 55:22 – 1:01:26

    The Link Between Negative Feelings and Sickness

    1. SBSteven Bartlett55:22

       of burdens we're carrying from our past that are keeping us elevated in ways that are suboptimal.

    2. JDDr. Joe Dispenza55:28

       Yeah. Well, God, I mean, what a crazy time to be alive right now.

    3. SBSteven Bartlett55:31

       Yeah.

    4. JDDr. Joe Dispenza55:32

       I mean, there are so many things happening in such a short amount of time. I mean, it's almost, um, overwhelming. Every day, there's something happening. And, you know, so living in s- stress is living in survival. The problem with the stress hormones is that the arousal that's created from the stress hormones causes us, uh, to move into these higher brainwave states called beta brainwave states. We're aroused, and the arousal causes us to pay attention, primarily to all the things in our outer world. Our... The arousal causes us to put our attention on our body. It causes us to obsess and think about time. And so, uh, people get stuck in these, uh, high brainwave states, and I think the big challenge is, is if you understand that stress is when you're knocked out of homeostasis, when your brain and body are knocked out of balance, then your response or your reaction to people or circumstances in your life that you're chronically feeling on a regular basis, is actually weakening the organism. Because when you turn on that emergency s- system, the fight or flight nervous system, because of the hormones of stress, and you move your body out of balance, and it has no time to recover and turn back to balance, now you're headed for disease. Because no organism can live in emergency mode for that extended period of time. The arousal creates a rush of energy, and people become addicted to the stress hormones, uh, they become addicted to those emotions. And so that now they need the people and the conditions and the circumstances in their life to reaffirm their addiction to the emotion. They need the bad job, they need the bad relationship, they need the traffic, they need the news, uh, just so that they can stay, uh, in that emotional state. So then, 75 to 90% of every person that walks into a healthcare facility in the Western world walks in because of emotional or psychological stress. That's the number one thing. So, our emotional response, uh, to the conditions in our life then becomes the important element. So, people think, "Oh my God," um, "when I'm emotional, I, I can't control my emotions," and turns out, you can regulate. It turns out you can, uh, shorten the response, uh, period from, from emotions, and it takes practice, right? So, uh, you could take the, you can have the most ketogenic, vegan, organic, uh, peptide, you know, whatever, intermittent fasting diet, and you could do yoga, and you can do cardio, and you can do HIT training and, um, you know, foundation training, and whatever. Uh, get a massage, you know, acupuncture. But if you're an emotional wreck, and you can't... You know, there's three types of stress, physical, chemical, and emotional. And there's three types of balance, physical, chemical, and emotional. If you, if you've got your body in physical balance and chemical balance, and you're not putting it in emotional balance, this, this will never stay.

    5. SBSteven Bartlett58:26

       Mm-hmm.

    6. JDDr. Joe Dispenza58:27

       Um, so then the important part, important element then is teaching people how to shorten the refractory period of their emotional responses and catch themselves when they're feeling those emotions and change it, and not rely on anything outside of them to do it, a video game or a drug, or whatever people do. Teach them that they have the tools to do it themselves, and if they understand that they're addicted to those emotions, I've seen this thousands of times, there's always an aha moment. Like, "I'm addicted to anger? Wha- Really? Oh my God. Maybe I am." Now the moment you recognize that, "Oh my God, and I'm using that person to reaffirm my addiction to anger? Oh my God," like, "I don't wanna, uh, I don't wanna feel anger." Okay, well, an addiction is something that you think you can't stop. An addiction is, uh, doing something that you know isn't good for you and you're doing it anyway, right? So if these emotions are addictive then, "I'm gonna probably go through withdrawals. I've probably overdosed a few times. I've probably had a couple bad trips. Okay, so let me get really clear, like, how am I gonna change this?" So, if the change is to be greater than your body, your environment, and time, and when you live in stress and you live in survival, all your attention is on your body, your environment, and time, it means that when we're living in stress, it's really hard to change.

    7. SBSteven Bartlett59:48

       Mm-hmm.

    8. JDDr. Joe Dispenza59:48

       Because it's not a time to change. It's time to run, fight, and hide, right? So, so teaching people how to break those emotional addictions, um, is, the side effect of that is called joy. (laughs) A person is no longer tormenting their body and keeping it out of balance. And many people who heal in this work, they don't say, "Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna heal this health condition." They'll say, "The first thing I'm gonna do," and this is the majority of them, is, "I'm gonna work on getting my body back into homeostasis." (laughs) Like, "I'm gonna work on regulating my emotional states. I'm not gonna react in this way. I'm not gonna respond this way." That's the work right there, is breaking those, uh, emotional addictions, uh, so that we can move out of survival. Uh, and in survival, it's not a time to create. In survival, it's not a time to meditate. (laughs) It's not a time to close your eyes and go within. You'd be eaten.It's not a time to be vulnerable, it's not a time to open your heart, right? And yet we got to work with our bodies and be able to, to recondition them to a new mind. And, and so a lot of the work that we do, especially during this time in history, where everybody's feeling the, the, um, the pressure, the environmental pressure of stress, is to give people the tools to be able to self-regulate. And when I mean self-regulate, that means move from one emotional state to another emotional state. And it's not bad that we react, we all react. I react. But the question is, how long? Like, how long are you gonna react for? Because, um, if you keep doing it, uh, for months or years, it ultimately becomes your personality,

18. 1:01:26 – 1:03:36

    Ads

    1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:01:26

       right?

    2. SBSteven Bartlett1:01:26

       Yeah. And it has a big impact on your immune system. I've noticed that when I'm in a state of prolonged reaction, negative reaction to something, it only takes a couple more days for me to get a flu or a cold or something, and then I go, "Bloody hell." Like, because I don't get sick often, so I think I get sick, kind of like I am now, maybe twice a year. And so it's very easy, it's almost like a shock, and then it's very easy for me to trace my steps and see what brought me here. So this happened, my response was this. Eight days later, I felt my immune system go. Because I ha- get sick so rarely, it's so unbelievably clear what happened to me. If there's no like, "Oh, I, I touched something and then the germs got in my mouth," for me, it's so clear in my life. So yeah, that's kind of what I, I want to do, is I want to stop that happening.

    3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:02:15

       Yeah. Well, look, how old are you?

    4. SBSteven Bartlett1:02:17

       I'm 32.

    5. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:02:18

       32, my God, you're doing great. I mean, if you figure this out now, by the time you're 40, you, you'll, you'll have it mastered. Um, so we did a study where we had people stop feeling survival emotions, uh, for three days and had them practice feeling elevated emotions, heart-centered emotions. We measured, uh, a chemical called IgA, immunoglobulin A. It's your body's natural flu shot. It's actually better than a flu shot. And, uh, and so we measured people's IgA levels at the beginning of this time, and then we measured them at the end. At the end of three days, by trading those limited emotions for more elevated emotions, their IgA levels went up 50%. 50%. So, so when you're feeling an elevated emotion, it, the body's so objective that it's believing it's living and in a nurturing and loving environment. And if the environment signals the gene, and it does, and the end product of an experience in the environment is an emotion, that person is signaling genes ahead of the environment, and that's... And now the body's going to make globulins, which are proteins that are going to create more internal defense and, uh, uh, uh, and less, and less, uh, attention on external defense. So the immune system then, which is the internal protection system, begins to move back into order. (paper crinkling)

    6. SBSteven Bartlett1:03:34

       If you're looking to take the next

19. 1:03:36 – 1:04:42

    Is Routine Necessary in Our Lives?

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20. 1:04:42 – 1:06:36

    The Brain and Heart Connection

    1. SBSteven Bartlett1:04:42

       What about routine in all of this? Is there value in having a strong routine? Because then when the winds blow, at least I'm anchored by something.

    2. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:04:53

       Yeah. I try to avoid that word because I think it conjures up a, a lot of beliefs for people. I l- I think I, I like to say, if you can set aside a certain amount of time for yourself, just for yourself, to be alone with yourself... And for me, um, my routine is to have two hours in the morning. That's just my time. Like, that's my time where I'm gonna get my brain and body right. It's a time where I'm gonna think about the things I have to do in the day and how I'm gonna be in my, in my day. I get that all clear, and then I do my meditation, and my meditation is really, uh, for me to overcome myself, uh, and change and then create. And I, you know, f- uh, I don't care if you do it in the morning or the evening. I'm a morning person. I've always been a morning person. I have friends that are, that are artists and musicians, even my kids, they're just more even- evening people. They just, they're creative, so they like the evening. Doesn't matter to me. Uh, just pick a time in your day where you can think about who you want to be and who you no longer want to be, and, uh, think about what you're going to change, and, and, you know, always make a little room for the unknown, which is the fun part, and, and get creative. Yeah. And so our, and our, that's one of the things I'm proud of in, in our community. I'm really proud of the fact that people do the work. Like, everybody does the work. It's not like I have to make them do it. And when I ask them, like, "Why?" Like, "Why do you do it every day?" Aside from m- majority of them saying, "It makes me feel better," they typically say, "I don't want the magic to end." Like, "There's too many good things, too many good things going on in my life." Like, "I want to keep doing this. It's working for me." So it's kind of not like I have to, it's

21. 1:06:36 – 1:14:19

    Psychedelics and Medication

    1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:06:36

       a want to.

    2. SBSteven Bartlett1:06:36

       You talked earlier on about brain heart coherence. It's a term that I've not heard before.I didn't know that there was a connection between my brain and my heart.

    3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:06:44

       Oh, there's a definite connection between your brain and heart. Yeah. So we were so fascinated, this was, uh, February of 2020, I'll never forget it. We, we started an R when we were doing our electroencephalograms, you know, our brain studies. Um, we, we put a, a cardiac lead, uh, from the heart, uh, uh, to the machine, and we started looking at HRV in comparison to brain waves. And coherence is rhythm, right? So when waves are kind of moving in rhythm like this, you can s- you can see that on the brain scan, right? They're-

    4. SBSteven Bartlett1:07:18

       Bees.

    5. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:07:19

       Yeah, they're very orderly, they're very r- they're rhythmic, like that. So, so if you think of waves that are coherent, b- being very orderly and b- being very rhythmic, um, when they're, when they're out of order, like choppy, and they're on, different parts of the brain are on different rhythms, that's when the brain's incoherent, right? And, and so when we started, uh, looking at, um, training people how to broaden their awareness to sense space, when you're sensing space, the act of sensing and feeling causes you to stop analyzing and thinking.

    6. SBSteven Bartlett1:07:53

       Mm-hmm.

    7. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:07:53

       And if you're not analyzing and thinking, you start suppressing neocortical activity. Your brain waves start to slow down. In beta, you know, you're aware that your body local in space and time. That's low-level beta. Like we're talking right now, we're in low-level beta. If I said, "Steven, I'm gonna give you a quiz, um, and you're gonna have to take the quiz in front of your audience," uh, you would kind of perk up a little bit. Your brain would get a little bit more aroused and the light bulb would get a little brighter and you'd move into mid-range beta. That's like when you're gonna give a speech or you're, you're at a, a dinner and you don't know people. You're kind of, you're gonna be a little bit more aware.

    8. SBSteven Bartlett1:08:27

       Just for people that can't see this 'cause they might be listening on audio...

    9. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:08:30

       So beta is c- uh, conscious awareness. Now in beta, the, the brain is trying to create meaning between what's going on in the outer world and what's going on in the inner world, and it's processing all the sensory information. So, a lot of data. So beta's like conscious and awake. And so there's low-level beta, there's mid-range beta. It's not on this chart, but high-level beta is when you're fearful, when you're anxious, when you're angry, when you're in pain, when you're frustrated, when you're jealous, whatever. Uh, people get switched on in these high levels of beta and that's when we get over-focused. You ever been under stress?

    10. SBSteven Bartlett1:08:59

        Oh, yeah.

    11. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:09:00

        And you start over-focusing?

    12. SBSteven Bartlett1:09:01

        Yeah.

    13. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:09:01

        That's because you're, you're, you're narrowing your focus and you're over-focusing, and that's kind of a brain state. And so, when you broaden your awareness and you, instead of narrow your focus on something physical or material, that's what the stress hormones do, but if you broaden your awareness and you sense space and you, uh, this act of sensing causes you to no longer analyze and think, and your brain waves start to move into alpha. Now in alpha, which is this brain wave, it's a slower brain wave state. That's the creative state of the brain. The brain sees more in pictures, more in images. It's more imaginary, right? In beta, there's a voice talking to you in the back of your head all the time saying, "This is right and this is wrong. You got this to do, you got that to do." Uh, that's the critic, kind of, in our brain. When you, when you get beyond beta brain waves and you move into alpha, you start opening the door between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind. Now, we're not just looking for any type of alpha, but we're looking for coherent alpha. So we want all those compartments that were firing in different rhythms and different, uh, frequencies, all of the sudden start doing this. So now the whole entire brain starts moving into what's called global coherence. Now, when the brain starts synchronizing like that, what syncs in the brain starts to link in the brain, and the whole brain starts to fire as one neurological network, and that's what our data shows. Now, that's not the end. That's just when you're moving into an imaginary state, and people do this, but, but a lot of people move into alpha, but it's not coherent. So we're looking for coherent alpha. Now, many of the people that are meditating really well, they can relax their body so well, and they can feel so safe that their body moves into a light rest or a light sleep while they're still awake. So it's relaxed and awake. In that realm, you're in a hypnotic state. You're in theta brain waves. And in theta now, lights are shut out in the thinking neocortex that plugs us into three-dimensional reality. The identity's gone. The character is gone. There's no activity there. Now the door between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind is wide open to information, and now we're suggestible to information. And now we're in the operating system, we can get in the subconscious mind and rewrite a program. We could rehearse a new script. We can tell a new story. Instead of the story of the past, we could tell the story of our future, and we can program our subconscious mind and our autonomic nervous system to begin to change our biology. Now, go too far past theta and you fall into delta, and now lights are out. You're in a catatonic state and you're unconscious, right?

    14. SBSteven Bartlett1:11:38

        Mm-hmm.

    15. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:11:39

        And so we kind of do this when we go to bed at night. We go from beta to alpha, theta to delta. And if you're under stress and you're in high beta, you can't sleep.

    16. SBSteven Bartlett1:11:48

        Mm-hmm.

    17. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:11:48

        And you can't sleep because you're thinking, right? And you can't drop through brain waves. When we wake up in the morning, we go from delta to theta to alpha to beta, right? So there's two times that the door between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind opens up. Okay. What does this have to do with brain and heart coherence? Well, in theta, when a person is in that state where their attention is on their heart, and energy is in their heart, it's natural for the heart to tell the brain to get creative. It's time to imagine. It's time to fall in love with the future. Now the heart is the creative center, right? It's the, it's the part of the, the, uh, our biology that, that allows the brain to begin, the frontal lobe to begin to create. So you get the heart and the brain kind of working together. The more relaxed you get in your heart, the more awake you get in the brain. Something beautiful happens in the brain. If the person can sustain this and they're in that theta state-Theta becomes the carrier wave. And right within the brain, you start to see alpha waves building on theta waves, and then alpha waves in harmonics into beta waves, and harmonics into high beta, and then high beta, ultimately into gamma. And now the person is relaxed and very awake because gamma is super consciousness, it is super awareness. So the, the formula of being relaxed and awake and synchronizing your heart to your brain causes the brain to move into a state of what's called resonance, and resonance is when you have waves on top of waves, harmonics, and the brain starts functioning in a more resonant state. Sometimes even people have delta as the base, carrying theta, and theta carrying alpha, and alpha carrying beta to high beta to gamma, and they're all waves within waves. And as those waves come together, if they're, if they're coherent, they interfere and create a bigger wave. And then those waves come together and they interfere and they create bigger waves, and that's exactly how the energy in the brain goes up. So we have brain scans of people whose, whose gamma brain waves are 200, 300, 400 standard deviations outside of normal. And I'm gonna give you an idea, three standard deviations outside of normal is 2% of the population, so they're, they're processing an enormous amount of energy in their brain, and it feels really good, really good. So we practice a lot synchronizing the heart to the brain.

22. 1:14:19 – 1:22:22

    Advanced Meditators vs. Normal Meditators

    1. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:14:19

    2. SBSteven Bartlett1:14:19

       If you do, like, MDMA or something, does that (clears throat) put you into some of these-

    3. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:14:23

       (laughs)

    4. SBSteven Bartlett1:14:23

       ... brain waves? I'm wondering if any psychedelics are inducing of these states.

    5. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:14:26

       We're gonna do a comparative study actually, um, this year with psychedelics and meditation. I can, I can answer that question more definitively. What we do know from fMRI studies with psilocybin is that the default mode network in the brain, the one I was talking about earlier that's always the brain's predictor, (laughs) that, that shuts off in a, in a, with, with, uh, psilocybin, and that's exactly what we see (laughs) in our, our, our, our advanced meditators and their fMRIs, that those people that are having a mystical experience, right in the MRI, looks like they're taking psilocybin. The same exact, the same exact brain, uh, circuits are turned off.

    6. SBSteven Bartlett1:15:06

       On this, um, theta wave, you were talking about how that's really where a lot of the reprogramming can happen. So do I need to be in that state and then be exposed to some kind of stimulus, sound-

    7. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:15:20

       Ooh, good question. Good question. Um, well, I'll answer it in three ways. First way is when you're conscious in your subconscious mind and you're trained to imagine whatever it is that you want, you're going to begin to signal your autonomic nervous system to start manufacturing chemicals equal to your intention. In other words, the intention of whatever you're thinking about acts as information that begins to change your biology. So theta is a great way to open up the door. We also use theta, um, when we wanna program people because it's a hypnotic state to a mystical experience, and if they're in that state... Remember, when you're suggestible, you accept, believe, and surrender to information as if it's the truth without analyzing it, and that's what programs people's biology, right? So you can program somebody into believing they need a drug and you can program somebody into believing in just about anything, but you could also program them for a mystical experience, and that's what we do. Now, so we can do that by giving them information. When they're in that hypnotic state they're very suggestible, but we're only gonna do it in a way that's gonna be beneficial to them. And then the third way is something that we really discovered that we weren't expecting. (breathes deeply) Let's see how I can say this and make it simple. (clears throat) Um, there's particle and wave. There's matter and energy. And so if your... all of your attention is on this three-dimensional world, um, you're, you're unaware of energy. So have a person close their eyes and take u- their attention off of everything physical, everything material, everything known, and go from a narrow focus to a broadened focus, and as they sense the space, they're actually putting their attention on that invisible field of energy that exists beyond our senses, the quantum field, right? And that field is carrying an enormous amount of information. So when a person moves into theta and I ask them to open their awareness, if they're in a certain range of theta, we can just about predict 100% of the time that that person is going to connect to information. Now, not information coming from their senses. Like a hypnotist could put you in a trance in theta and give you suggestions and could program you, but you're still in the same state, that hypnotic state, but your eyes are closed. There's music playing in the background. You're not eating, you're not tasting, you're not smelling, you're not feeling with your body, but you're still suggestible to information. There's only one other place you can find information, and that's frequency, and frequency carries information. So when a person starts to connect to energy, to frequency, and the thinking neocortex is dialed down, the moment they connect to that energy and frequency, the brain goes into these very, very high states of gamma brain wave patterns. They're connecting to a greater level of energy, a greater level of order, and the arousal that's felt when they have this connection, which is normally typically fear or anger or pain, the arousal is ecstasy, the arousal is bliss. That's the... They say, "I don't have the words to describe the feeling that I just had," right? So they're dipping closer to source and they're dipping closer to a greater energy and frequency, and it's being reflected in their biology. When we see people move into these elegant states of high gamma-It's primarily in their autonomic nervous system. It's very fast and it's very coherent. Now, if stress is autonomic dysregulation and they're functioning in a very, very high energetic state in their autonomic nervous system, coherent gamma brainwaves, then there's an enormous amount of autonomic regulation, and the autonomic nervous system controls and coordinates all other systems. Now, watch out, because now the tuning fork is sending information to every cell and tissue and organ in the body, and when people move into these states, many times when they come back, they get a biological upgrade. Somehow, energy starts to inform matter, and the whole body is lifted by light, by lifted by frequency. When we, when we draw the blood from people who, who have these kind of moments and we look for information in the blood, there's information in the blood that we've discovered that stops the COVID virus from entering the cell. We've isolated the protein that inhibits the virus from entering the cell. In other words, we've done these studies called adoptive transfers. We've taken advanced meditators' blood and we've put it in, um, a culture with ACE2 receptors, s- cells that have ACE2 receptors, and then exposed the ACE2 receptor to the, to a pseudo virus, like a COVID virus. And in advanced meditators, we noticed that the virus couldn't enter the cell. It was stuck to the outside of the cell, and we isolated a protein in the advanced meditators' blood that inhibits the virus from entering the cell. Those people that have those transcendental moments, as I said, 84% of them, 84% of them have information in their blood that causes the mitochondrial function and glycolytic function in cancer cells to shut off. There's information in the blood for neurogenesis, uh, for, um, the microbiome completely changed at the end of seven days, completely different microbiome, uh, without changing their diet (coughs) at all. They're still eating the same food, but they're not the same person, right? There's some kind of change that creates a lot of probiotic microbes.

    8. SBSteven Bartlett1:21:16

       I remember reading a study of, um, Wim Hof, the iceman, where they injected him with a virus, and I think they injected other people with the virus, and through his breath work and meditations and whatever else he did, the virus didn't infect him, but it infected the other people. And then I think in the study they tr- he trained other people to be able to reject the virus as well. And all of this kind of sounds a little bit woo-woo to the average person, 'cause to think that you can do something to prevent a virus infecting you, I mean, it blows the doors open to, like, personal responsibility and-

    9. JDDr. Joe Dispenza1:21:52

       Yes, of course.

    10. SBSteven Bartlett1:21:53

        ... y- you know, uh, which is-

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