Mindy Pelz: Fasting can replicate many Ozempic benefits

Pelz argues time-restricted eating can replicate many Ozempic effects; she covers ingredient labels, hormone-cycle fasting for women, and craving rewiring.

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Jun 27, 20241h 59mWatch on YouTube ↗

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0:00 – 2:14
Intro
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  These are really important health tools that are not being discussed, but this is how we should be looking at health. So the first thing is-
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  Dr. Mindy Pelz. The renowned health expert is back.
3. NANarrator
  And she's on a mission to empower people to take control of their health through fasting, nutrition, and lifestyle changes.
4. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  We are in a crisis of health, and your health right now may not be your fault, but it is your responsibility.
5. SBSteven Bartlett
  So I have questions. What is the lie about the food environment?
6. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  The biggest lie is that all food is safe. There are foods that are medicine, and there are foods that will build disease.
7. SBSteven Bartlett
  How do we know the difference?
8. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Learn to read an ingredient label. So the first thing I do is I...
9. SBSteven Bartlett
  Interesting. Are there foods that are cancer feeding?
10. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yep. So there's processed meats, sugar's a biggie, the toxic oils in donuts, juice boxes, horrific.
11. SBSteven Bartlett
  How important is our liver in all of this?
12. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  The most important.
13. SBSteven Bartlett
  Is there any symptoms of an unhealthy liver?
14. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yes. I call them check list. First, you can look at the bottom of your feet. Do want to put it up on the table?
15. SBSteven Bartlett
  No, 'cause people will sell pictures.
16. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  (laughs)
17. SBSteven Bartlett
  (laughs) How many times a day do you think we should be eating?
18. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Great question, and studies show us that the longer you spend not eating, the more your body heals itself and starts to burn belly fat.
19. SBSteven Bartlett
  But Ozempic has a tool for achieving the same outcome.
20. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  But one of the biggest consequences we've seen is... This is why I'm such a fasting fan.
21. SBSteven Bartlett
  So what are some of the lesser known benefits of fasting?
22. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  There's a whole bunch of them, but I'm gonna say the biggest, biggest thing is...
23. SBSteven Bartlett
  We've just hit six million subscribers on The Diary of a CEO. Um, so me and my team would like to do something we've never done before as a little thank you, and we're calling it The Diary of a CEO Subscriber Raffle, and here is how it works. Every episode this month, we're going to pick three current subscribers at random, and we'll send one of you a 1,000 pound voucher, one of you tickets to come and watch The Diary of a CEO behind the scenes live with our team, and one of you will have a 10-minute phone call with me to discuss whatever you want to talk about. If you're a subscriber, you're in the raffle. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for allowing me to do something that me and my team love doing so much. It is the greatest honor of my lifetime, and I hope it, I hope it continues, uh, off into the future. Let's get to the episode.
2:14 – 5:00
Impact From The Last Episode
1. SBSteven Bartlett
  Dr. Mindy, last time we sat here, the conversation we had reached more than 10 million people across YouTube and Spotify and iPlayer and airlines and everywhere. And I was looking through some of the feedback from that conversation, and there's two of these top comments that I pulled out which I think kind of capture the impact it had on so many people. The first comment is from a lady called Anne, and she said, "Dr. Mindy changed my life. I started its, intermittent fasting six months ago after I watched this podcast, and I've dropped 18 pounds and have never felt or looked better." The second comment I pulled out was from a 57-year-old lady who said, "Going through menopause, morbidly obese, going through a lot of stress in my personal life, and fasting because of Dr. Mindy has finally saved me. I've been doing a 36 to 48 hour test every week to fast, and it has really bolstered my confidence, and I can now do really hard things. Thank you."
2. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  There's so much on that one. Uh, there's so much on that one, that second one. I mean, that's, that is empowerment. Those two got empowered, but that last woman got really empowered. She did that for herself, and she knows it. Uh, she can do hard things. She's absolutely right.
3. SBSteven Bartlett
  "It has really bolstered my confidence, and I can now do hard things." It's not typically what you think of when you think of fasting, that it gives you confidence and the ability to, um, do hard things in other areas of your life.
4. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. Yeah, and you know, the, I, I've heard you interview guests like this, and I've heard many people talk about how l- easy we've made life right now. You know, you can sit on your couch and you can, you don't even have to get off the couch and food will appear at your door, and you can control your TV s- your TV, and you can call a friend, and there's so much you can do without even moving. Uh, life has gotten so easy that we are losing that ability to really learn how powerful we are. And for women, it- with health, it wo- it's gotten even worse. So what I love about that comment is that she took the information, she applied it, she got a result. Uh, uh, kind words to me, but she deserves all the credit. And she feels different, not just physically but emotionally, and, and what she's capable of. Like, those are the comments that just blow me away, because only you can close your mouth and not eat.
5:00 – 9:15
Impact Of The Book Globally
1. SBSteven Bartlett
  And I guess it tells you something about yourself when you're able to do that, which is, I guess, resisting some kind of temptation-
2. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yep.
3. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... which is, you know, you're building evidence with yourself that, "I am the type of person that has control and autonomy over my destiny."
4. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Correct.
5. SBSteven Bartlett
  And it's remarkable how much that must impact your professional life, your relationships, your, all these kind of things, your ability to put other boundaries in place in your life.
6. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
7. SBSteven Bartlett
  Um, and it all starts with this simple discipline, which is, you know, fasting.
8. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
9. SBSteven Bartlett
  Were you, were you surprised at the impact that this book, Fast Like A Girl, had globally?
10. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  It, it has blown me away. Um, I knew when I wrote the book that I had a formula that worked because I had spent 10 years in my practice using it with women. I'd seen the kind of results like you just read over and over again. Then I took those results and I took them to my YouTube channel, and I started teaching it on YouTube. And I, and I, I don't know if every YouTube, uh, creator does this, but I would always ask questions, and I would say to people, "Give me answers as to how this is working for you." And then I had a team of people that went in and l- gathered those answers. We looked at patterns, and that's how the information in Fast Like A Girl was born is it was not just an idea, it wasn't just science, but it was, when I wrote it, it was like...... oh, we already have seen this across hundreds of thousands of women that it's going to work. But you never really know until you put s- a book like that out into the world, how it's all gonna unfold and how it's gonna be received. In a- in a year and a half worldwide, 717,000 copies of that book of, on all styles. That's audio, Audible, and e-book, and hardcover. Uh, the amount of reviews, positive reviews. The amount of (laughs) DMs we've had. I had to double my staff to be able to answer the DMs. Like, I- I- I have actually picked the book up mo- more than 10 times, and asked myself, "What did I put in there? Like why is this connecting so much?" 'Cause there's something where women just were finally given a tool that worked, and it didn't cost money, and it didn't take time, and it didn't give her power away, and she saw that. And- and that- that part blew me away.
11. SBSteven Bartlett
  Is that- is that why it connects? Because it's not expensive, complicated. It's not, um, something you need a prescription for?
12. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. Yeah. Well think about it. You go into your doctor's office. You have a long list of symptoms. You give those symptoms over to your doc- doctor. He or she gives you a- an official title of that symptom. You're like, "Oh, finally somebody understands it." And so, you go and maybe take the diagnosis, the prescription of the treatment. You go fulfill the treatment. Let's say the drug works. You're like, "The doctor was amazing. The drug was amazing." There's no empowerment in that at all. Now, if the pill doesn't work then what ends up happening is you go back to the doctor and you're like, "Hey, pill didn't work." And the doctor says, "Okay, well let's try a different pill." And then you try a different pill. And you do that like three or four times, and if it still doesn't work, then what happens is now you go to a different doctor. You're like, "I gotta go to a different doctor. This one's not working." And we keep outsourcing our power looking for answers. Somebody show me. Somebody show me. But with fasting, what happened is we showed this idea of metabolic switching where there's a time to eat and there's a time not to eat. And the longer you spend not eating, the more your body heals itself. And that concept I think women had never really had- had grabbed before. And it was a w- a tool that was so available. They could listen to your pod- to the podcast we did, and apply it like an hour later. And all of a sudden, again the only person you give credit to is yourself. And so I don't ... I mean maybe exercise. Exercise would be that tool. What other tools do we have that make you feel that powerful that
9:15 – 13:40
What Is Fasting?
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  quickly?
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  What if ... If someone has never come across the concept of fasting before, which I- I think is probably quite, um, implausible now. But can you give me the sort of evolu- the sort of like evolutionary basis for fasting? Why does- why does it help? And where were we told a lie? Like where did we take a wrong turn I- in the last 1,000 years which made us, I don't know, just become really gluttonous and have five meals a day and so on?
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. Uh, well let's start with how, what fasting is. And then I'll dive into the lie- the lie. I have a lot of thoughts on the lie. Um, if we go back to hunter/gatherer days, you know, we ... I- one thing that blows me away is that the human body we're living in is literally the same. It's the same as the hunter/gatherers. But what we're sitting in, what we're exposed to, the physical, emotional, chemical stressors that are handed to us every single day is completely like opposite what the hunter and gatherers were doing. So if I go back to the hunter and gatherers, they came out of the cave. They didn't have Door Dash. They didn't have a refrigerator. They didn't know how to get food. They had to go find food. Now if blood sugar is going down and they've got to go find food and they pass out, you know, 100 yards from the- from the cave, then we wouldn't be sitting here right now. S- but that didn't happen. What happened is they went out to go hunt. And the longer they were away trying to find food, the more they metabolically switched into this other fuel source called the ke- ketogenic energy system. I like to call it the fat burning system, because what their body did ... And we're like a hybrid car. The body was like, "Okay blood sugar is going down. Okay time to switch over to our other fuel source. We're gonna pop in and start burning fat and make a ketone." And then that ketone went up into their brain, sharpened their focus and made them even stronger to go find food.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Today we don't do that. We don't ever lean into this other system that our hunter and gatherer ancestors had to lean into. We don't have ... There's so much over-saturation of food and ideas and stimulation coming at us that we never had t- w- there are like biological processes in our- our bodies that we're not even accessing anymore, but they exist. I- I think you and I talked about this last time, uh, in the book I talk about something called the thrifty gene hypothesis. Now it's a hypothesis and the idea was the humans that came out of that hunter/gatherer time had a gene that allowed them to switch over into the fat burning system and make a ketone in the absence of food. And so all of the people that survived that time period, they morphed into what we're looking at as each other right now. Because the ones that didn't have that genetic profile didn't live. So they- they're no longer with us.So now we're sitting with this thrifty gene inside of us, eating all day, and what they believe is happening is that because we're not accessing that gene, that the people that are suffering now is on the opposite, are the ones that are not tapping into the fat burning system. The ones that are not accessing that are actually killing themselves because they're not in alignment with their own biology.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  Kind of have a lot of empathy for them in some respects because of, you know, it's, it's difficult, isn't it, when we're surrounded by this much free, cheap glucose, sugar, you know, carbohydrate-
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Dopamine.
8. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... to, to fight back against the environment you live in.
9. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
10. SBSteven Bartlett
  It's kind of what we're asking people to do is, like, fight their natural urges. Presumably, the brain is also has a gene which says, "Listen, if you see sugar-"
11. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
12. SBSteven Bartlett
  "... you better grab it and put it in your mouth."
13. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yep. And there's some microbes doing that too.
14. SBSteven Bartlett
  Oh, really?
15. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. Yeah. There, there can be fungus in your gut that tells your taste buds, "Hey, I need more sugar because I gotta stay alive."
16. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
17. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Our, our taste buds have been completely hijacked by all the chemicals poured onto our food. So, uh, we don't... We get so much dopamine now from food that sometimes all we have to do is walk into a grocery store and look at our favorite food and see it in the aisle. We haven't even picked it up, put it in the basket. We're like, "Ooh, that potato chip. I love that potato chip." And that's creating a dopamine response in our brain because our brai- our, our brain knows, "When I eat that, I get dopamine."
13:40 – 15:24
We're Sold Dangerous Food As Safe
1. SBSteven Bartlett
  And what is the lie then? We talked about the lie that's been told to people about the food environment, about five meals a day, et cetera. What is that lie and why were we told the lie?
2. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  The biggest lie is that all food is safe. Not all food is safe. Uh, and a part of that lie is I can walk into my grocery store and it's already been vetted for my health. Now, I can tell you in America, that's not the case. We have a category of food called GRAS, Generally Recognized As Safe, in our country, and basically what the FDA can do is the FD- FDA can put chemicals under this category when it hasn't been scientifically proven to be safe. They can repackage them and put them in this category of Generally Recognized As Safe. The idea is that we have a innocent until proven guilty philosophy around food. And it's even gone even, e- e- even further where w- within their own administration in the FDA, people are saying that the F is silent. They don't care about the food. And then if you go even further and you think about it, how do we have food and drug together in the same administration? If we really cared about food, we would actually pull it out separate and we would have a bigger, better analysis of food. So the lie is that all food is safe. That's not true at all. A- there are foods that w- are medicine, and there are foods that will build disease. And just because we call them both food doesn't mean they're safe. You have to know the difference.
15:24 – 17:35
How To Read A Food Label To Know If It's Harmful For Us
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  How do, how do we know the difference?
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Well, the first thing is learn to read an ingredient label. So which then... Do you know how to read an ingredient label?
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  I would say no.
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So the first thing I do on every, anything that's packaged is I go straight to the ingredients. And it... This is so easy. All you've got to do is look at those ingredients and ask yourself, "Do I recognize... Do I know every single one of those ingredients?" And if you don't, entertain yourself and go look them up. I, I actually did this with my nephew years ago. He brought me some frozen waffles and he's like, "Hey, are the... What do you think? Are these safe?" And I said, "Read them out loud to me."
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  Hmm.
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  And he started to read them out loud. He was like 14 years old at the time. He started to read... And he couldn't get through, like the third ingredient in was a chemical. And he's like, "I don't know how to pronounce this." I said, "Go look it up. I want you to Google it and look it up and tell me what it is." And he came back and he's like, "Wait a second. What I just found is that's a cancer-causing chemical." I said, "Yeah. You're right. It is." That's what the... That's what's happening is that these chemicals are allowed in our food that promote disease. And so then once you have that idea and you know the ingredients are the most important and you follow, is it a chemical? Is it a real food? Then the next thing you can do is really stay away from anything with an ingredient label. Like, when you go into a grocery store, walk around the outside, don't go into those middle aisles. Go to the refrigerated sessio- sections. Go to the fresh food. If it doesn't have a label, it's, it's, it means... It's, it's authentic self. So that... It didn't, they didn't denature it. They didn't change it. It came from the earth or it came from an animal, whatever your ethos is around there, but it, it wasn't in- put into an altered state because what they do is they put these things into altered states so that they taste better and they hijack your taste buds so you'll come back for more, or they put it into an altered state so that it can last longer on the shelf. And if it lasts longer on the shelf, that chemical's lasting longer in you.
17:35 – 19:32
What About Eating Frequency?
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  The lie around frequency of eating, because when I grew up I, I... Breakfast, lunch, you might have something, a couple of snacks, and then have dinner, and then you wake up the next day and go through the same routine of just basically eating every waking hour of the day-
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... that you can and snacking in between. Who told us this lie and is it a lie? Because it kind of seems to be-
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... the antithesis of fasting.
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yep. Well, th- from what I can find, and I'm sure there's lots of ways we've perpetuated this lie, but "Breakfast is the most important meal of the day" was a ad slogan for Kellogg's Corn Flakes back in the '70s. So back in 1970, they had a hot new cereal and the ad was, "Ea- eat it. Breakfast is the most important meal of the day." Here we are in 2024 and people are still perpetuating that ad slogan.So, I've actually looked into the research on, like, if I eat more, will it speed up my me- metabolism? Uh, from what I can tell from the research, w- I can't find that. Now, it- let's say we just leave the research out of it. I- I- I would like to meet a human that has eaten six meals a day and found that that was a metabolism stimulator. Like, I don't know very many people that say that. So it, it's like a cultural lie that just got sort of passed down and what happened when the fasting research came out, now, you know, people like Valter Longo, people like Satchin Panda, like big fasting researchers, what they figured out was, oh wait, if we compress our eating into a certain time period like our ancestors did, and we left longer for fasting there's something magical going on here. And those were the giants that started to show us that actually time restricted eating is the most important thing that we can be doing when it comes to food.
19:32 – 21:00
What Is Calorie Restrictive Eating?
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  What about calorie restricted eating?
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  And how does... Is that the same thing?
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  N- no. A- thank you for asking that. So, let's, let's, let's talk about both of them in an everyday kind of scenario. So in time restriction, you are saying, I have a certain time in my 24 hours where I eat, I compress my eating window, and then I have a time where I'm fasting. So I have an eating window and I have a fasting window. Okay. And I get to decide how long, how compressed that eating window is and how long that fasting window is. The longer you go in the fasting window, what you're doing is you're turning on these different healing mechanisms. And, and that is independent of calories coming in or not coming in. That is dependent on nutrients not coming in. That is dependent on glucose going down and switching over to burning fat so you make a ketone. It has nothing to do with calories. When you come over to calorie restriction, you're saying I'm gonna have X amount of calories a day, I'm gonna output X amount of calories, and I'm gonna do that all day long. So very different philosophies to me. Like it, you're, you're creating a internal mechanism with time restriction that is going to stimulate a healing process, and it's nutrient deficiency along with glucose drop. It doesn't have to do with calories.
21:00 – 27:12
Your Thoughts On Ozempic As A Tool For Weightloss
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  As it relates to fasting, since we had the conversation, something really massive happened in culture which was this word Ozempic became really popular, and the drug Ozempic became really popular. I know there's various types of it, Wegovy or something else. I- there's lots of different versions of it. But fasting as a tool is now quite established, but Ozempic as a tool for achieving the same outcomes, what's your thoughts on that?
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah, so now at first I'm just gonna say I'm not an Ozempic expert, so I can't tell you the mechanisms behind that. What I will tell you is that again I'm a supporter of the everyday person, and the first challenge we have with Ozempic is the cost. So is everybody gonna be able to afford that, to be able to improve their metabolic health? I- I- I'm a, I'm a supporter of the single mom who's working two jobs and d- is trying to just put food on the table and sh- Ozempic at $800, $1,000 US dollars, she's not going there. So-
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  A month, is it? Is it a month?
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  A month.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  Okay.
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So the first thing is it's unattainable for so many people. Second thing is that we've got a challenge with some of the side effects. Now there's been a lot of debate about that and like, you know, the nausea and all that. Like, what is that? Um, and some people have it, some people don't. So you have to personally decide if that works for you or not. The third issue is that it, and this is a r- in- really interesting recent stat is that within two years people, 70% of Ozempic users are off Ozempic. I don't know if it's cost, I don't know if it's discomfort, I don't know what it is, but long term, that's not a phenomenal solution. So with that in mind, let's unpack what the, what's happening from a symptomatology point of view with Ozempic. And the biggest thing is you are not hungry. Okay? So I can tell you a th- uh, thousands and thousands and thousands of comments, those two women you started this podcast off with, when people learn how to do a m- a fasting lifestyle their hunger goes away. It i- it is very ... Now I've never taken Ozempic so I can't tell you like per se that if it would be the same experience, but when you learn to metabolically switch, your hunger goes down because without food you go into this ketogenic energy system, you get a ketone, it turns off hunger. So the biggest, the biggest con- one of the biggest consequences we've seen in the millions of people we've seen build these fasting lifestyles is they go I just am not hungry anymore.
8. SBSteven Bartlett
  I can relate.
9. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
10. SBSteven Bartlett
  When I did a, I did a ket- ketogenic diet for a while-
11. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
12. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... my hunger levels seemed to drop as well. Is that s- a similar thing?
13. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. So 'cause your blood sugar is stable.
14. SBSteven Bartlett
  Okay, so you're not getting the spikes and drops and spikes and drops.
15. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. You're not getting... Yeah. Yeah, you got it.
16. SBSteven Bartlett
  Okay, that makes sense. And, and is that much of the reason why you end up losing weight because you just end up eating a little bit less as well as you're, you know, you're staying away from glucose and stuff but...
17. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah, it's two. It's that and then in order to make a ketone you have to burn fat. Like, think about it. Let's put it in Ozempic terms. It would be like going to the pharmacy and in order to pay your Ozempic bill, you had to give 'em a little piece of fat.
18. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
19. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  And then, of your fat.
20. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
21. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  And then you came home with a shot, you plug it in, and now you're not hungry.Okay, that's what fasting's doing, is fasting is using your own fat to make this byproduct called a ketone. So you're losing weight in the process of making the ketone, and then the ketone goes up into the brain and actually shuts off the hunger hormone, and now you're not hungry.
22. SBSteven Bartlett
  Can't you see a world... 'Cause I think with, um, again, this is my very limited knowledge of m- medicine and the bio-, biotech and pharmaceutical industry. I think what happens with patents, like medical patents, is eventually they expire. I think they expire after about 10 years or something like that.
23. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
24. SBSteven Bartlett
  So eventually, the Ozempic patent is going to expire, which means that other people can produce that drug. Um, I think the cost will eventually therefore go down, especially as other people start producing other iterations of the drug.
25. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
26. SBSteven Bartlett
  There becomes this price war, um, and you'll have all these different versions of Ozempic but at lower cost.
27. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Right.
28. SBSteven Bartlett
  Can you foresee, 'cause I think I can, a world where most people in the Western world are taking some form of Ozempic to suppress hunger? And it's, it's casual.
29. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  I don't, I don't know if I wanna see that. I, I mean, uh, the first thing I'd like to see is some long-term studies on this. I'd like to see... Let's, let's give this a little bit of time to see what, how it unfolds in the culture and how people react to it. And then we have to ask, uh, "How are, are we studying this on women?" I'm gonna, I'm gonna be the fierce advocate for making sure th- that this gets researched on women. So if we look at that world, I would say, okay, I'd only be willing to entertain that thought if we have some real clear data showing us long-term, 20, 30, 40 years, that it's going to be safe. Second thing, though, that I wanna say on that, and this, I go back to the, what you started this with, do you feel empowered? I mean, I know people are happy. They're like, "Oh my God, I finally lose weight." They feel really good in their body. Like, I don't wanna dismiss that, and I'm not here to take that joy or excitement away from somebody who's losing weight with Ozempic. I think a fasting lifestyle is a, a phenomenal pair to Oz- Ozempic if that's you. But what I hear when people lose that amount of weight, that's, is that when you look at them, you're like, "Oh my God, you lost so much weight," they're like, "Yeah, I'm on Ozempic," the ones that are like, "I'm gonna own it." Okay, so Ozempic got the power. When I see somebody who lost weight from a fasting lifestyle, what they say is, "Yeah, I started to learn how to fast, and there is an internal power that I did this for myself." So again, we, we rob them of that internal experience. If every cure, including weight loss, is gonna be found in a pill, how are we gonna believe in our own bodies?
27:12 – 32:52
Are We Choosing Comfort Over Hardwork?
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  Do you know, the most interesting take I've heard on why Ozempic might be a really negative thing for society is actually the point you just made about discipline, and about... W- we, you know, we talked at the start of this conversation about the comfort crisis and how-
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... everything's getting easier. We can date and eat and whatever else from the comfort of our o- own home. And now with AI coming into the world, where we're gonna have AI agents where we can tell our devices to go do things for us, if you play it forward a couple of years, you're looking at a world where we really don't have to do anything, that we don't have to move. Where we've really optimized discomfort, difficulty, challenge out of our lives, and-
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... now Ozempic offers another solution in that regard. I know, I know that it saves lives, and I think that's a really amazing thing.
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
8. SBSteven Bartlett
  And if I was in such a situation, I would take it.
9. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
10. SBSteven Bartlett
  If my f- friend's family, children were, I would, I'd be the first to, uh, make sure that they were taking it to save their lives. But, you know, i- if we look back through history, we've trade, we've made this trade-off and regretted it repeatedly. We've kind of chosen comfort and, um, convenience-
11. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
12. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... at the expense of something else, which we only find out 10 or 20 years later, where we go, "Oh my God, Jesus, maybe having these devices or being able to order food like this," or whatever else-
13. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
14. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... um, was a bad idea.
15. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
16. SBSteven Bartlett
  And we won't find out for 20, 30 years. And it's, it's really interesting also to see this almost counter-movement in culture where people are now this sort of, um, counter-movement of people that are choosing difficulty, the ice bath-
17. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Right.
18. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... the, the hydro marathon, where they're running across-
19. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Right.
20. SBSteven Bartlett
  You know what I mean? And that feels like the counter-movement to this-
21. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
22. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... sort of comfort crisis. Um, but Ozempic, I actually categorize as part of a comfort crisis, because of the comment you, I read at the start from the lady who said, "It bolstered my confidence, and I can now do hard things."
23. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. And, and do people say that with Ozempic? I mean, it's a really interesting point. And, you know, my general ethos on health is that we should be looking within and what we're capable of doing to heal. I am not a fan of outsourcing our health. And this can even go down to the idea of, of ketones. There's a lot of exogenous ketones out there, and people ask me all the time, "Should I take exogenous ketones?" And my feeling is, let's get you learning how to metabolically switch so you can make your own ketone first. And i- and if we have to go into an exogenous ketone, we will, but the, I don't... That's another outsource. Like, we just keep outsourcing and outsourcing and outsourcing until we do not feel powerful in our own bodies. And, uh, 20, 30 years of that is going to be a serious human crisis.
24. SBSteven Bartlett
  I think it's, I think the principle that if we don't do anything uncomfortable today, we kind of just dis- defer the discomfort into the future is a really wonderful principle to live by. You know what I mean? Like it's-
25. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Right.
26. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... are you... And I'm not saying that in the future you're gonna necessarily have a health, a physical health issue or metabolic health issue if you're choosing comfort in terms of your metabolic choices today, but you might have a relationship issue-
27. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Mm-hmm.
28. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... because you didn't learn, you know, that, to deal with discomfort, have uncomfortable conversations, you know? So it's interesting.
29. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Really good point.
30. SBSteven Bartlett
  It's just these principles for life, and one of them also is that I just think a really wonderful principle that I live by is that everything has a cost.
32:52 – 34:23
Ketos And The Ketogenic Diet
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  You used the word ketones. Uh, y- and you used it in the context of fasting. Does that mean that you're a, an advocate of the ketogenic diet? Because the s-
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Mm.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  The word is the same.
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. Thank you for asking this 'cause this gets confusing a lot. Um, I'm an advocate of pulsing in ketones, and my way of encouraging people to do that is through fasting.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  Why not the ketogenic diet?
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So the ketogenic diet has some upsides, just like Ozempic has some upsides and it has some downsides. So moving processed carbs out of your diet is always a good idea. Bringing your carb level down so your blood sugar b- comes down, always a good idea. But when the ketogenic diet came out, what ended up happening is people were just eating meat or eating, you know, fat, and they were e- weren't eating any fruits and vegetables. Okay, for women, fruits and vegetables are really important. You gotta have that fiber to feed a set of bacteria in your gut that break estrogen down. So I, that's why when I talk about keto, I always say it's ketobiotic 'cause I brought the carb level back up. I was like, "Yes, stay off of processed carbs. But if you want a ketone, you're gonna get that ketone by attaching a fasting window to e- every single day and learning to metabolically switch." So you get over here and you make a ketone from fasting, not from manipulating your food over and over and over again, which lo- has a long-term challenge.
34:23 – 35:50
How Long Do I Need To Fast To Switch To Fat Burning?
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  How long do I have to fast for in order to metabolically switch?
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. So eight hours is usually what they say where the, the system starts to move from sugar burner to fat burner. It usually takes about four hours to get over there. So we always say 12-
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  Four, four additional hours?
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  Okay.
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So, well, yeah, thank you for pointing that out. So 12 hours. And now you're pretty much over into this fasting window. Your intelligent body, what it's doing is it's saying, "It's been 12 hours. Glucose hasn't gone u- gone up and we haven't had any nutrients. Well, we're gonna switch into our other fuel source, and we're gonna burn fat to make a ketone." So everybody's a little different because some people don't switch as easy. Some people take a little longer to make a ketone. I mean, we, we saw some incredible hurdles that people hit trying to get into the fasted state that were because what I call their metabolic switch was sluggish. They had never really practiced this before. And so it didn't ... When they were going 12 hours, all of a sudden they weren't making a ketone and they were just hungry. And so what we started to do is teach them things like, okay, let's ... This is, this is a large reason why the new book is a- around is because I needed to create a food manual to help them clean up their food system so they could switch over into the fasted system much easier.
35:50 – 36:31
Can You Have Liquids When Fasting?
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  If I'm drinking, you know, coffee or water, all these kinds of things, is that gonna interrupt the process of metabolically switching?
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  You should be fine with water. Now, I have definitely seen some really extreme cases where people even have a blood sugar spike from water, but very extreme. Uh, coffee, most people will do okay with coffee. Uh, it's what you put in your coffee that's a problem.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  If it's just black coffee.
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Black coffee should be fine.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  Okay.
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Now, make sure it's chemical free. Don't, don't ... You know, make sure it's organic. Like, there's a l- Make it s- make it clean.So those two are, are pretty, are pretty good. Um, teas can be fine to drink in the fasting window.
36:31 – 41:35
Common Myths And Mistakes About Intermittent Fasting
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Um-
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  What are the c-common mistakes people make when they're intem- intermittent fasting that... or, you know, the common myths around the process that someone who thinks they know intermittent fasting could well be making?
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So if we stay in the fasting window idea, um, I'll tell you a couple that I've seen. Like people drinking diet, diet, a diet drink that has chemicals in it, and so... and... or, or, or a synthetic sweetener that actually stimulates hunger. So, you know, some of the diet drinks that are out there, there's a whole bunch of them. So people think, "I can just drink..." If we go with the mistake, people just think, "I can drink whatever I want then. It's just not eating." I've even had questions of, "Can I, can I do fruit juice?"
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  (laughs)
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  I'm like, "No. It's not not eating. You're trying to get your blood sugar down so you switch over into this ca- ketogenic energy system." So I would say the fasting window, people can trip over themselves a little bit. Then I would say, you know, of course, women specifically fasting all the time, that's why I, I did Fast Like a Girl was women needed to know how to fast to their cycles. Uh, the other mistake that, uh, people make is they think, well, they don't have to clean up their food. And that's your u- that's your, you know, that's your prerogative, but if you clean up food, your food system, you're gonna make fasting a lot easier. So I think those are some of, some of the biggies. I would say other ones that might be helpful for people listening, and I'm thinking about the conversation with your girlfriend, is thinking that there's a one-size-fits-all for fasting. Like some people like to skip dinner. Other people like to skip breakfast. I have plenty of people in our community that do lunch-to-lunch fasting. You get to decide where your eating window goes. It's not a... There's... And, you know, there's a lot of theories like I'm a big fan of eat in the light, don't eat in the dark. When you eat in the dark, melatonin's in and melatonin makes you more insulin resistant. So eat in the light and just make that your fasting window. Look at the, what the light patterns are. So there's some really good evidence there. But it's all customizable to you and your lifestyle. Oh, I have, I have patients and friends who are like, "Sitting down at the table for dinner with my family is the most important moment of my day," and that happens at 8:00 at night. And so I'm like, "Great. Eat then. Enjoy that experience and build that... Maybe your fasting window is 2:00 to 9:00 or 10:00."
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  You must have so many people that listen to your work, read your books, and then they still can't do it. They still can't fast. They still get beaten by the hunger craving that comes at 11:00 PM and then the, the next day at 8:00 AM.
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
8. SBSteven Bartlett
  It just wins. It just keeps winning. And they're listening to you over and over again, but the hunger cravings, the sugar cravings just keep winning and they just keep failing at this idea of fasting.
9. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  You know, I... it's funny because maybe I just don't see it as much. I mean, we've get hundreds of thousands of comments across our socials, you know, every week and I try to, I try to s- keep a pulse on them. Um, but so I may not see all the... maybe the people who can't fast, maybe they don't leave comments even. So, um, but there was a really interesting study called the Every Other Day Diet and the other... Every Other Day Diet, this is years ago, was a researcher who took a group of people who were in a metabolic crisis and, like their cholesterol was high, their hemoglobin A1C was high, their liver enzymes were off, blood pressure. I mean, everything was bad and they were eating the Western standard diet. And she said, "You can eat whatever you want, but you're gonna do it every other day. So one day eat, go to town. One day you're not eating at all, you're fasting all day. And then the next day, go to town, eat whatever you want, and then you're fasting and you're gonna do this for a year." And so they ended up doing it for a year. Now I wanna point out there was like a third of the people that dropped out.
10. SBSteven Bartlett
  Of course. Yeah.
11. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So we have to like point that out. Um, but everybody that stayed in it, at the end of the year, all their metabolic markers improved. They lost weight. But the thing that shocked the researchers the most is that their taste buds changed. What they craved changed. So, uh, when they hung in there and they did it over a period of time, all of a sudden they went from cha- you know, craving a hamburger and fries to creating ch- you know, craving a salad with some protein on it and that was very unconscious. And I've thought a lot about that study and like why did that happen? And I believe it happened because of the microbiome changes. Our taste buds are not always a brain decision. Sometimes they're a microbe decision. And if I have a set of bad bacteria because I've been feeding bad bacteria that... you know, these toxic foods, then yeah, I'm gonna keep craving it and yeah, this gets difficult, but if I stick with it long enough, if I keep fasting and trying it and experimenting with it and I, and I make enough progress that I can change my microbiome, then there's a door in because now my food cravings can start to change.
41:35 – 47:34
How Does Fasting Affect The Microbiome?
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  How does the... How does fasting change your gut microbiome in that situation?
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  This is a great question. So, uh, biggest criticism, one of the biggest criticisms of fasting is it destroys your gut. So I wanna unpack this one. So here's the... here's what the science is showing. When you are in a fasted state, the longer you're there... The most famous study was out of MIT, 24-hour fast, you started to get these stem cells into the gut that repaired the gut. But when you are in a fasted state, these bad bacteria get starved out and when they get starved out, there's an opportunity. Now here's what I wanna, wanna say because the criticism is that fasting destroys your gut microbes. So first, yes, it destroys the r- the ones you no longer want.Now, second thing is that first meal matters. That first door into your food matters and if you bring in probiotic, prebiotic, polyphenol foods, uh, my favorite thing to break a fast with for years was an avocado with sauerkrauts and hemp seeds on top of it. If you bring all of that in, now you're actually feeding those good bacteria and they're, you're helping them grow.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  But do the good bacteria die as well when I starve them?
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Some of them can, for sure.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  It ch- y- there can be a, um, overall depletion, for sure.
8. SBSteven Bartlett
  But what you're saying is you're like killing a lot of bacteria in the, the gut potentially, but then you're feeding the good ones.
9. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  That's right.
10. SBSteven Bartlett
  Okay.
11. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  That's right. So we can't, and this is, again, why Eat Like a Girl came about because of these kind of questions, was, uh, what happened was that so many people were just, you know, doing six meals a day, calorie counting, trying to manipulate their food, and then when they discovered, wait a second, I need to think about the timing of my food, not necessarily the quality of, you know, what I'm eating, and they switched over, all of a sudden they started to ha- drop weight.
12. SBSteven Bartlett
  But the thing you broke your fast with, the sauerkraut, et cetera-
13. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
14. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... if I just start- started eating that, wouldn't the bad bacteria d- die anyway?
15. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  B- because you would, so you would change the balance, hopefully, where good bacteria would grow and bad bacteria wou- it would be out- outnumberered at that point.
16. SBSteven Bartlett
  Yeah.
17. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. Uh, it's possible, yeah.
18. SBSteven Bartlett
  I guess the-
19. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  I think that's the slower way, I'm gonna be really honest.
20. SBSteven Bartlett
  I guess the other, like the counterpoint would be then that it's hard to do that because I'd still be getting the cravings from the bad bacteria.
21. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
22. SBSteven Bartlett
  I, those bad bacteria would still be sending me signals through my gut microbiome-
23. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
24. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... to eat hamburgers.
25. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. We see m- uh, microbiomes change within weeks. Food cravings change within weeks if you just stick with this and then you look at that first meal matters, and you make sure you're getting those sauerkrauts, you're getting, hemp seeds was another one I put on my, that avocado all the time, great prebiotic.
26. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
27. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So if you make that first meal really good quality and you m- s- feed those microbes, then this is a v-, this is a much faster way. The Every Other Day diet, I wanna say it was about six months-
28. SBSteven Bartlett
  Okay.
29. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  ... that they, that they started to see food changes happening 'cause it wasn't until the full year was completed that they started to actually see the food changes that happened.
30. SBSteven Bartlett
  I mean, anecdotally in my life when I, when I changed my diet, so when I, when I did, tried the keto diet for a while and when I've done other things, I lose the cravings for, for bad foods, for the sort of like the hamburger or whatever, or the cookie fairly quickly. It usually take-, for me, it usually takes about a week.
47:34 – 49:48
The Benefits Of Fasting
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  To close off on this point of fasting then, what are some of the lesser known benefits of fasting that people don't typically think about? 'Cause we think about weight loss, you know? I think that's tip- that's probably the number one reason why people start fasting because they wanna burn belly fat. Is that accurate from what you've seen?
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Y- yeah. Well, I mean, the research is really interesting that 36 hours into a fast the body goes and starts to burn specifically belly fat. Um, now that research was done on, uh, just so we're clear, 36 hours followed by 12 hours of eating and then 36 hours of, of fasting followed by 12 for 30 days and they started to see waist circumference go down.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  I'm not telling people to fast that way, but I think it is surprising when you go into these longer fasts how you can unstick weight. But to answer your question, I'm gonna say the biggest, biggest thing is mental health.... biggest, like, aha, mental clarity, um, happiness, uh, and- and I believe that's because ketones do several things. They can start to... When a ketone comes on, inflammation is coming down, hunger is coming down, and it supercharges the brain, so now there's this intense brain clarity that's, like, kicking in because a ketone thi- Let's go back to our hunter-gatherers. The ketone, when it shows up, you're finding food, and you better go find food immediately. So your focus has to completely sharpen so you can be the best hunter possible. So now when we're doing that in a day-to-day kind of b- life, that ketone, we don't, we're not hunting, but we might be working, we might be in an interview. And so that sharpened focus is so amazing. And then the other piece I really like about the ketone is with it, it brings GABA. And so GABA calms you.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  What's GABA?
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So GABA's a neurotransmitter. And when ketones go up, GABA follows. So again, let's go back to our hunter and gatherer friends. When GABA, when ketones are up, I'm focused, I have clarity, I'm hunting for food, and I better stay calm because I need to go find
49:48 – 52:04
When Shouldn't Women Fast?
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  food.
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  On, on the point of, um, women and fasting, I think you said to me last time that women shouldn't be fasting when they're on their periods.
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  The week before their period.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  The week before-
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... their period. Okay.
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
8. SBSteven Bartlett
  So in the lead up to their period, they should be avoiding fasting. Why is that again?
9. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. So let's go through the, the hormones, because I think this is one th- this... You asked me what has surprised me on, on the book coming out. I, I'll tell you the other thing that surprised me. How many women don't understand their hormones? Like, you're controlled by it. Your behaviors, your sleep, your interactions with human, and we don't have a system that's teaching women hormones? This is appalling. So when we look at the three sex hormones, when it comes through the lens of fasting, estrogen, which comes in the front half of a woman's cycle, does really well with fasting because she likes you to be insulin sensitive. A great example of this is the growing number of cases of polycystic ovarian syndrome, where we are seeing insulin resistance leading to infertility because of an imbalance in the estrogen system, and we're seeing an increase in testosterone because of this insulin system being off. So we need, uh, when estrogen comes in, a tool to help women to be insulin sensitive. Progesterone's her twin sister. They look the same, we call them the same, but she acts exactly opposite. She wants glucose to be higher. She doesn't do well with cortisol. Cortisol comes in, she's, she's, she's gone away. I always say when progesterone goes high, cortisol is shy.
10. SBSteven Bartlett
  And cortisol is the, like, stress hormone.
11. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. So in a woman's 30-day period, you have moments where est- estrogen is making her peak and you have moments where progesterone is making her peak. So if she's on the keto diet, if she is in calorie restriction, if she is fasting all the time, she's not honoring the rhythms of these two hormones, and that is a major problem. So we say don't fast the week before your period, because you need glucose to be higher and you don't want cortisol to be high. And just like exercise increases cortisol, so does fasting.
52:04 – 53:01
The Impact Of Fasting Before Menstruation
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  So what's gonna happen if you, if you, if you fast the week before your period? What's the consequence?
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. So what we have typically seen is women lose their cycles.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  Ah, okay.
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  You need progesterone, so, so let's go through, let's put it through the lens of a woman's brain. Around day 20, like, progesterone's building, building, building, building. She has to peak, and then the u- When she hits a peak, the uterine lining sheds and you have a period. Okay, if you are fasting during that time and you didn't bring your gluco- glucose up high enough, sh- progesterone may not peak and then you don't have that shed of blood. When you shed every single month, that menstrual blood that comes out, there are four major chemicals in them. There are phthalates, there are, uh, parabens, there are forever chemicals, and there are plastics. They can actually measure that in a woman's menstrual blood. So if she's not bleeding, then she's not detoxing.
53:01 – 55:03
The Rise In Menstrual Cycle Changes
1. SBSteven Bartlett
  'Cause those four chemicals are toxic.
2. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  They're toxic, yes.
3. SBSteven Bartlett
  What do you, what do you say to those pe- people, um, that are n- don't have menstrual cycles and they're... You know, 'cause listen, o- obviously I've never been through that myself, but, um, I have a partner who's been very open. I think she did a post last week on her Instagram describing the journey that she went on to try and get her menstrual cycle back, and she successfully has now.
4. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Amazing.
5. SBSteven Bartlett
  Um, she's 31. She's the same age as me now, and she had, you know, many years where she had an inconsistent or non-existent menstrual cycle. Um, and I got to observe firsthand how frustrating, saddening, confusing that is-
6. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
7. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... and how you feel like you're broken in some way if you're not-
8. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Mm-hmm.
9. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... having a menstrual cycle as a woman. So what do you, what, what can, what do we offer those women?
10. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Well, for, I- I applaud your girlfriend for doing that. I- I first want to say that. Like, getting your cycle back, not only just for pregnancy, but for general health is, it's brilliant, like, so smart to do that. Um, you know, I think a lot of women think it's great they don't have a menstrual cycle. That's con- that's a little bit in the culture right now. Um, so for tho- to those women who feel like this is a blessing they don't have a cycle, I'd ask them to rethink that. Um, even if they don't want to have kids, let's rethink it, 'cause your body needs to shed every single month. So there's that. For the other women that are struggling to get their periods, the first thing that... And I'd be curious if your, if your girlfriend discovered this, is that we have to realize that a woman's body is rhythmic.It has times where we can be outgoing and we can conquer the world, and there's times we're gonna sit on the couch and do nothing. And there's times that we're really happy, and there's times don't look at us that way because we're gonna... w- w- our hormonal system is agitated. So we are constantly in a state of rhythm. And when you're not shedding, you're missing a major part of your rhythm that is... makes you a woman.
55:03 – 58:04
Accommodations For Women In The Workplace
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  We talked about this last time, and it was the first time, uh, as a employer, I started to reconsider how we run our business.
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  Because if women do need certain accommodations based on their cycle, um, what might be an optimal way for an employer to set up a working schedule for a woman which will be inco- accommodating of her cycle?
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So this is what I came up with is I... We, we talked about this idea of, like, three days off every single month. What if every employee had three days off every single month, no questions asked, you take it when you want to take it? And then there's an educational process for the women that we recommend you take it the week before your period because that's going to absolutely help you in supporting your hormonal health. And what we know is, if you take it off the week before your period, that when you come back, you're going to be an even better version of yourself. So it's, again, not a weakness. So I would think you would take some chunk of time, and, and you... let your employee use their prerogative because you can't tell them, you know, when to take time... I mean, when to use it with their period. I think that's the most fair because then the men can do it too.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  Yeah.
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  I don't know how you feel about that as an employer, though.
8. SBSteven Bartlett
  Well, yeah. No, maybe we're doing that already then because we do offer what we call unlimited holiday. I guess it's more like a responsible holiday policy where people can take as much time as they like. So someone like Jack in the team, it also applies for me, can decide to take as much holiday as you want when he wants. And I have no idea h- per... sat here now how much holiday Jack has taken this year, for example-
9. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
10. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... or why he's taking it and when he's taking it.
11. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
12. SBSteven Bartlett
  I guess, therefore, with that in place, people can decide to do that without having to broadcast why they're off to the company.
13. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Exactly. And, and to the women in the company, what they need to know is that that day that, like, everything is crashing down on you and your, your stress is coming from all different angles and you have to get up and push through on that day and it's day 25 of your menstrual cycle, if it is appropriate on that day for you to stay home and you work in a company like this that is no questions asked, then stay home-
14. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
15. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  ... and nurture yourself. And, and be aware that every moment a woman is pushing through that week before her period, she is destroying her hormonal system. Now, there are little pushes through, and there are big pushes through. So I'm talking about the big pushes through. I'm not talking about the moment you wake up and you're like, "Nyeah, it's gonna be a boring day." Or-
16. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
17. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  ... "There's some difficult conversations I have to have today." I'm talking about the moment when your energy's down, you have brain fog, you might be having some cramps, you might be really irritable, and you're like, "I can't take one more thing. How about... I have this really cool company I work for. What if I just nurture and... myself today and take care of myself so I can show up tomorrow a better person?"
58:04 – 1:00:48
Let's Talk Apple Cider Vinegar
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  One of the other things that I wanted to talk to you about 'cause I, I'd noticed it popped into my fridge after our conversation, um, and I know my partner listened to the conversation. As I said to you, it was translated into a bunch of languages, so her, her family got to listen to it in Spanish as well.
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  Um, was this, this apple cider vinegar thing.
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  (laughs)
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  In the drawer of my fridge, there's apple cider vinegar. And I wasn't sure what it was the other day, so I drank a bit, and it's disgusting. But I, I thought ma-
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  It is disgusting.
8. SBSteven Bartlett
  It looked kind of like apple juice or something.
9. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. (laughs)
10. SBSteven Bartlett
  Um, and I tried it, and it was really disgusting. But apple cider vinegar is currently in the drawer of my fridge. My, my partner, she's so smart. She, she's ahead of me on all of these things. Why is it in the drawer of my fridge?
11. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  (laughs) Have you tried, have you tried it?
12. SBSteven Bartlett
  (laughs) I tried it. It was disgusting.
13. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  It's totally disgusting. (laughs)
14. SBSteven Bartlett
  It was a little bit too strong. But I tried it straight from the bottle, and then I put it back on, and I thought yuck.
15. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. Well, so I'll t- I'll give you the reason why in here in a second, but I have the same experience. I do not like apple cider vinegar, although they've come out with some really good modifications and drinks with it, which is amazing. And, um, well, you know, we're always trying to th- look at how we can support people on our YouTube channel. And, um, one of our consultants was like, "Oh, you need to do a video on apple cider vinegar."
16. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
17. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  And I was like, "Really? Because I don't really like apple cider vinegar." It's hard to advocate something I don't like. And so I finally did one, and it f- it went viral. Like, everybody wanted to know about a- apple cider vinegar. So here's why it works is it stabilizes blood sugar. So let's unpack this though because this is really interesting. So apple cider vinegar can be taken before a meal or after a meal to have a different glucose response.
18. SBSteven Bartlett
  Okay.
19. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So a less of a g- glucose response. So that's why people use it. I don't know when she's drinking it, but typically people would do it before a meal or after a meal to make sure that the glucose spike wasn't high. So the second question then to ask yourself is, why does that work? So apple cider vinegar is incredibly nurturing to the m- gut microbes, and your gut microbes actually control your blood sugar levels. They have a s- they send a bacterial signal to the liver 'cause the liver is a major fat-burning organ. It's a major participant in balancing blood sugar. And the two of them coordinate a blood sugar response of a meal. So let's use a woman on birth control for decades. There's new studies showing that that h- actually upregulates some bad bacteria. That bad bacteria, when food hits it, has a heyday and has this really exaggerated, uh, y- glucose response. Okay, she takes some, some, uh, apple cider vinegar, and now we've got her glucose res- her bacteria favoring a better glucose response.
1:00:48 – 1:02:44
When Should We Be Eating?
1. SBSteven Bartlett
  And how many, how many times a day do you think men and women should be eating? Because there's this-
2. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Mm-hmm.
3. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... one meal a day thing-
4. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
5. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... that some people sub- obscri- subscribe to where you just have one meal every single day. But is that... I'm not... I'm unsure whether that's healthy for both men and women-
6. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
7. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... at all stages in their cycle.
8. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Uh, if we bring both men and women into that conversation, I like to look at feast-famine cycling is what your s- w- is best. Let's go back to our hunter and gatherer people. One... Sometimes they would make a big kill and they would feast for days. They didn't fast. They were like, "We have food. We don't have refrigeration." They would feast for days. And then they would all of a sudden go into a famine state, and now they're in a famine state, and now they gotta go out and they're fasting for days. So this is how our human body was created. So now when we're doing one meal a day, we're not, we're not really mimicking that. We're mimicking pieces of that. When we're eating all day, we're only mimicking the kill. We're not mimicking the hunt. So I think variation is really great and, um, it gives freedom and flexibility. Like it allows you to have one meal one day and three the next and two the next, and it gives you that ability to just be in flow with, with food and not be so rigid. So I'm not a one meal a day fan. I'm definitely not a one meal a day fan for women.
9. SBSteven Bartlett
  Why?
10. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Uh, this is how this whole concept started was all the one meal a day women, um, were doing it for 90 days or longer, never cycling it, showed up on my YouTube channel and they had lost their periods, their hair was falling out, um, they were agitated because they weren't minding this week before their cycle. So, you know, one meal a day maybe for the first 10 days of your cycle. Okay, that would work, but then let's switch out when we go into ovulation.
11. SBSteven Bartlett
  And eat more meals a day?
12. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Eat more. Yeah. Yep.
13. SBSteven Bartlett
  Interesting. Okay.
1:02:44 – 1:04:25
Recommendations For Weightloss And Repair
1. SBSteven Bartlett
  Are there any drinks that you would, um, recommend for... specifically for weight loss and repair?
2. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Well, we started with apple cider vinegar.
3. SBSteven Bartlett
  Yeah. First one.
4. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So I think we've, we've addressed that. That... You could drink that in your fasting window.
5. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm. Okay.
6. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Um, especially with people who have really high blood sugar and they can't seem to get it down, try drinking that in your fasting window. I think that, that's a really interesting insight. Um, the, the second one in the, in the morning is coffee. Um, there are signs that coffee... a- and studies showing that it can speed up our metabolism. Now, if you don't drink coffee, I'm, uh, I'm not telling you to go drink it, but there is some really interesting indications that, that people who drink co- coffee have a faster metabolism.
7. SBSteven Bartlett
  Okay.
8. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So you could do that. Um, uh, capsicum, something spicy. So cayenne pepper, which is a spice, has a heat to it, and that heat is actually been proven to speed up metabolism.
9. SBSteven Bartlett
  Honey.
10. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Honey.
11. SBSteven Bartlett
  Is that-
12. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  What do I think of honey?
13. SBSteven Bartlett
  Yeah. What do you think of honey?
14. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Raw would be best because it... Anytime we get anything raw, it's got the enzymes in 'em. Anytime we pasteurize it, now we've killed it 'cause we had to heat it up. So I like honey. I think it's a great sweetener. Um, it's a little higher on the glycemic index than like, you know, s- things like stevia that people seem to love. I hate the taste of stevia, so I would, I would slant towards honey. Um, but I, I don't have a problem with honey. I, I think, I think we got a little crazy on sweeteners.
15. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
16. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Like, we gotta... We got... Like, le- let's go back to real food, people, and honey is a real food.
1:04:25 – 1:07:03
Cancer Feeding Foods
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  Are there foods that you consider to be cancer feeding?
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. Well, sugar.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  Sugar. Okay. So-
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. Sugar's a biggie.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  But, but are there... Are th- are there certain foods that we all assume are healthy? Like what are the... what are the-
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Mm-hmm.
8. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... the foods that y- you know, your kid, I, anybody that's not spending a lot of time doing the research think they are consuming that are beneficial to them that are in fact cancer feeding?
9. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Well, okay. So one of them that was years ago was the, um, processed meats.
10. SBSteven Bartlett
  Yeah.
11. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  And hot dogs specifically. I don't know if you remember the study, but it showed like kids that ate processed meats, you know, a couple of times, like... I... And I, and I don't know the exact so I don't wanna misquote the study, but the general theme was when you had processed meats consistently throughout a week, you had a higher case of leukemia. That's ex- the, the correlation they were looking for. So processed meats have chemicals in them. So that would be... That would definitely be one. Um, I mean, the sugar cereals are, are, are packed with chemicals. The, the toxic oils in, like, donuts, like horrific for children. Um, juice boxes, the GoGurts. Oh my gosh. My kids would like-
12. SBSteven Bartlett
  What's that?
13. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  It's like yogurt that has been packed with sugar and artificial colorings that make it blue and then put into a tube. I, I, I hope they've changed this. Put into a plastic tube and kids would just, like, slurp it out of this plastic tube.
14. SBSteven Bartlett
  Ah.
15. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  And their... Every single ingredient in there was toxic, and it was in a toxic container.
16. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
17. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  And what... And, and to, to continue this thought, I know you've done stu- you've d- had guests on here about obesogens.
18. SBSteven Bartlett
  Mm-hmm.
19. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So let's go back to the GoGurt. All those things I just mentioned are obesogens, and what are obesogens doing to children? They're... And they're doing this to pregnant women. They are turning their stem cells into fat cells. They're telling their s- they're reprogramming their stem cells, specifically the stem cells that make bone cells, and they're telling those stem cells to make fat cells. And one of the things we're seeing right now is the height of children is less than it's ever been and the weight of children is greater than it's ever been. When we have a world of obese children, we have a chronic health problem coming down the line. And those are the kind of things where I just get irate with the food industry. We have to change that because g- well-intending parents don't know this. And so they go in and they're like, "Oh, my kid's so happy with the GoGurt. I just want to make them happy."And-
20. SBSteven Bartlett
  And it says it's got fruit in it.
21. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  And it says, and it says all natural, which is a buzzword that has no regulations on it.
1:07:03 – 1:10:10
What Is An Obesegen?
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  What is an obesogen?
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  So, obesogens were, are chemicals that are allowed in our food that turn a- well, they do two things, but the big thing that I'm really focused on right now is they turn our stem cells into fat cells.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  And what is a stem cell?
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Great question. So a stem cell is a cell that can go anywhere in the body, and it can r- it can repair anything, it can make anything, so it's like a universal cell.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  Okay.
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  It can do anything. It can make an eyeball. It can make an a- an ankle. And you have a ton of them when you're little, and you lose them after about 30. You don't lose them completely, but they start t- you start to get less of them.
8. SBSteven Bartlett
  And they're a good thing?
9. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
10. SBSteven Bartlett
  Production of stem cells is a good thing?
11. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're, uh, a stem cell is a great thing. So one of my fav- or, uh, y- you know, favorite is a tough word to say. One of the most interesting, uh, reviews that I've seen on obesogens was put out by, um, uh, Science for Public Interest, Citizen Science for Public Interest. It's a beautiful PDF, and basically it has list after list and study after study of these obesogens and all the ways that they ha- are altering our stem cells and turning them into, reprogramming them into these fat cells and all the different ways that the obesity crisis we are seeing right now in our children comes from these chemicals that are allowed in our food. And then it lists, list after list after list, of everything that we are putting into food, that we are lathering our body, that we're, is in our chemical environment and how this massive influx of chemicals is contributing to obesity and specifically in a younger generation. Now, let's zoom out. Let's zoom out, big picture. What's happening in our culture right now? Our culture is like, eh, wha- obesity is a problem. It, you know, we went from an immune system problem to really understanding we have an obesity problem, oh, and i- across many countries. And it's not just in adults. It's in kids. Does that mean that every single person that is obese right now is undisciplined? I argue no. It's because what we are eating is reprogramming our cells to make fat cells. And now we've come up with a drug to be able to solve that problem? That's a huge beef for me. That's a, that, uh, that i- at the core of that, that is wrong.
12. SBSteven Bartlett
  Why?
13. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  We haven't gotten to the root cause. Let's fix the food system. We have to fix the food system. If we don't fix the food system, we are going to have problems beyond obesity. We're gonna have cancer problems. We're gonna have anxiety problems. We're gonna have w- you know, all the brain challenges that come with that. There are excitotokins, uh, uh, toxins that rev up the nervous system. Uh, just ask any parent who's ever gave their child a Go-Gurt. What was their mood? They might've been happy eating it, but how were they within the next couple hours afterwards? Bouncing off the walls, it's an excitotoxin.
1:10:10 – 1:11:59
Ozempic Is Not The Way To Solve The Obesity Crisis
1. MPDr Mindy Pelz
2. SBSteven Bartlett
  It's an interesting point that, okay, we might be skinny, but we might ha- still be suffering with the cancers and the-
3. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yep.
4. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... I don't know, the ADHDs and stuff like that, things that are linked to, um, our diets.
5. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
6. SBSteven Bartlett
  So we might be skinny, but we might appear to be healthy on the surface.
7. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  That's right.
8. SBSteven Bartlett
  We might not have the, uh, you know, the type 2 diabetes or whatever.
9. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
10. SBSteven Bartlett
  But it doesn't mean we're gonna be any better.
11. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  S- 73% of Americans right now are overweight or, or obese, so the skinny population is, is move, is m- going away very quickly. I did a, uh, research for England here recently 'cause I'm speaking at a conference this weekend. It's like 64% of, um, people in England are either overweight or obese. Our, you know, we've got-
12. SBSteven Bartlett
  Crazy.
13. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  ... 30% of our children, like not teenagers, like children that are under 13 and under are obese, and we have 50% of teenagers that are obese. We have a chemical problem. We have an obesogen problem that needs to be addressed. So my biggest beef is that we, I'm not, is that we came up with Ozempic. Okay. Phenomenal temporary solution, can we please get to the root cause? And that's what's not being addressed. And, and the, and, and the, the media, the, the way the information gets put out there is we don't understand why. Yes, we do. We understand why. And we have pl- we just don't wanna uh, address the why. There's too much money in the food industry to change that, and that is criminal. And as a parent, I am not okay with that, even though my kids have, you know, are, are beyond that point. But it, it, it is something that every parent should be irate about, and the only way we're gonna change that is we vote with our dollars, and we start to buy our kids natural, healthy, real food that doesn't have these obesogens in 'em.
1:11:59 – 1:16:19
How Would Mindy Fix The Food System?
1. SBSteven Bartlett
  What does that world look like? If I gave you a magic wand, and I said, "Okay, you're gonna be the president of the entire world, and you can implement any rule as it relates to food, you know, that you want," what do you do, day one?
2. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Uh, day one, we implement an education system.
3. SBSteven Bartlett
  Okay.
4. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  A, a body and a food education system. So we empower the individual, and we teach them metabolic switching. Now, for kids, we can, we can put that one aside because I'm not advocating for kids to fast, but I am advocating for kids to understand their blood sugar.
5. SBSteven Bartlett
  Why not kids fasting?
6. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Well, we have the, the tricky part of eating disorders. So, uh, I, you know, I'm a fan of a child who's under 13, teaching them their own natural rhythm with food. So what happens is we say, "Kitchen closes at 7:00. Breakfast is the most important meal. You only have a lunch break from 12:00 to 1:00 at school, so you gotta eat th- then." So we take that intuitive sense that kids should get around when I'm hungry and when I'm not hungry, and we completely, like, make that go away.So, I would start to bring in a more intuitive sense and allow, help educate, I mean, kids, we're, if we're talking about kids right now, help to educate them on what it means to be hungry, when, and, and find their own internal guidance system there. With adults, I, uh, the, here's what I would do day one. I would put continuous glucose monitors on every person on the planet. And I would say, "Okay, eat. Just eat, and let's see what your response is." That would change every single person's relationship to food. Eat your favorite foods, eat the foods you don't like, eat them all, and look at the glucose response. And now, you, uh, have... You see the logical consequence of that. That would be so powerful if we could, if we could do that. And then the, the next thing I would do is I would outlaw chemicals in our food, completely outlaw them. Like, n- no more. Let's go back to real food.
7. SBSteven Bartlett
  All chemicals?
8. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  All chemicals.
9. SBSteven Bartlett
  If I go into a supermarket, what do I see?
10. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Oh, thank you. You see, uh, fruits and vegetables. And, and when you look at them, they're not shiny. They're not all the same size. They're all different sizes. Some are a little bit less ripe. They're all, not all unripe. They're all, some of them are more ripe. They look like something that came out of your backyard garden. Ugly. Like, very different. I would have, for people who want to eat meat, and I'm a, I'm a fan of people eating meat, I would have healthy meat that hasn't been pumped with antibiotics, hasn't been pumped with gor- growth hormone. Healthy meat. I would have eggs from not just chickens, but ducks. That I would get a variety of eggs in there. I would, I, if w- we could have breads, I'm not opposed to breads. Maybe there's sourdough breads and fermented foods. But i- this grocery store that we would create in the future, all of these foods would actually spoil within a week.
11. SBSteven Bartlett
  Not great for business.
12. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Not great for business, which is why we don't see it.
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1:16:19 – 1:20:55
Can Fasting Help Our Body Heal?
1. SBSteven Bartlett
  We talked about cell, stem cell production. Does stem cell production increase if I fast?
2. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  The longer, in the, in the longer fast, yeah.
3. SBSteven Bartlett
  The longer you fast? Is that the-
4. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Three days is, uh, inte- the st- the research was 24 hours, um, for gut repair, for, so you get intestinal stem cells. But for systemic stem cells, three days, 72 hours.
5. SBSteven Bartlett
  And those systemic stem cells can do what for me?
6. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  They can go anywhere in your body and repair anything.
7. SBSteven Bartlett
  So, if I have a toe injury.
8. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
9. SBSteven Bartlett
  I had a toe injury recently. I played this football match, Soccer Aid. Um, I was thinking in the lead-up to it, I n- really need to make sure that my toe is healed because it had some, like, inflammation. The joint had, like, I think I'd, like, almost dislocated it. I was thin- it did cross my mind, it did, did cross my mind, "Maybe I should fast for a couple of days-"
10. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
11. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... to, um, help m- accelerate the repair so that I can play in this big football match," which was in London for almost 50,000 people there, on this particular day, which was about t- about two weeks away. So, would fasting help me in-
12. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Yeah.
13. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... that situation?
14. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  The story I always use is that I had an Achilles tendon, uh, injury. And I tried everything and it was, like, not healing. I couldn't work out. It was really bumming me out. And so my last resort, I was like, "Okay, let me throw a three-day water fast at it." Um, on the third day, I just started to notice that the pain was a little less. And a lot of that is just 'cause the inflammation's coming down, the stem cells were starting to kick in. By the end of the third day, I'm like, "I think the pain's like 50% gone." So, I thought, "Let me stick with this and how long can I go until the pain's completely gone?" So, I ended up going five full days in a fasted state. On the fifth day, the pain was completely gone and to this date, it has never come back. What happened? That has to be stem cells being active in my body, going in there and repairing that Achilles tendon. I didn't do anything that week. I didn't take supplements. I didn't do any fancy treatments. I literally went into a five-day water fast and my body figured out how to get the stem cells to where they needed to go.
15. SBSteven Bartlett
  Is there any scientific support for this idea that fasting can accelerate repair and, um, heal injury?
16. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Musculoskeletal-wise, I have not seen that correlation. Stem cell-wise, we, we have several studies. Valter Longo was the researcher who showed that the whole immune system gets rebooted with, when... A three-day water fast. He went on to try different types of fasting. Uh, one of them is the fast-mimicking diet he created, which is like a calorie restriction, so there's a little bit lower calorie restriction diet, and he did it with people who were type 1 diabetics. And he had five days, once a month for three months, he had them do this extreme calorie restriction. And he had some, some, um, requirements around protein. He wanted to keep them in a state of autophagy, so he kept protein under 20 grams. And what he found after three months is that the pancreatic cells were actually starting to regrow themselves from that style of fasting.... called the fast mimicking diet.
17. SBSteven Bartlett
  Which is just calorie restriction.
18. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Just calorie, less than 800. 800 calories, less than, um, uh, 20 grams of protein.
19. SBSteven Bartlett
  It must be pretty easy to test this, because you could theoretically bring in a group of, I don't know, 100 people and, I don't know, give them a little cut or a little pinprick or something-
20. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  Hmm. Yeah.
21. SBSteven Bartlett
  ... and then put them on different diets and see how quickly they healed from that cut or whatever.
22. MPDr Mindy Pelz
  You would think, yeah. I think you could probably do it and, and really look at it that way. Um, yeah. I mean, eh, I'm sure. And, and I c- I haven't done a specific PubMed search just on, uh, musculoskeletal repair and fasting. Uh, you have me thinking, so I'm gonna put my research on- researchers on it, and then I'll send you what I find.

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Intro

Impact From The Last Episode

Impact Of The Book Globally

What Is Fasting?

We're Sold Dangerous Food As Safe

How To Read A Food Label To Know If It's Harmful For Us

What About Eating Frequency?

What Is Calorie Restrictive Eating?

Your Thoughts On Ozempic As A Tool For Weightloss

Are We Choosing Comfort Over Hardwork?

Ketos And The Ketogenic Diet

How Long Do I Need To Fast To Switch To Fat Burning?

Can You Have Liquids When Fasting?

Common Myths And Mistakes About Intermittent Fasting

How Does Fasting Affect The Microbiome?

The Benefits Of Fasting

When Shouldn't Women Fast?

The Impact Of Fasting Before Menstruation

The Rise In Menstrual Cycle Changes

Accommodations For Women In The Workplace

Let's Talk Apple Cider Vinegar

When Should We Be Eating?

Recommendations For Weightloss And Repair

Cancer Feeding Foods

What Is An Obesegen?

Ozempic Is Not The Way To Solve The Obesity Crisis

How Would Mindy Fix The Food System?

Can Fasting Help Our Body Heal?

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