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How Psilocybin Can Rewire Our Brain, Its Therapeutic Benefits & Its Risks

In this episode, I discuss what psilocybin is (chemically) and how it works at the cellular and neural circuit level to trigger neuroplasticity, which is our brain’s ability to rewire itself in ways that lead to long-lasting shifts in our emotional, cognitive and behavioral patterns and abilities. I discuss the emerging clinical trial evidence for the use of psilocybin in the treatment of depression, addictions and other psychiatric challenges. I explain the typical duration and phases of a psilocybin journey, the different categories of dosages often used and I explain the importance of set, setting and support when using psychedelics. I explain which groups of people place themselves at great risk by taking psilocybin as well as groups that could benefit, and I highlight the rapidly changing legal and medical landscape around psilocybin. This episode is a thorough exploration of psilocybin from the scientific and clinical literature perspective and ought to be of interest to anyone curious about psilocybin, mental health, neuroplasticity and/or psychedelics more generally. #HubermanLab #Science Thank you to our sponsors AG1 (Athletic Greens): https://athleticgreens.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman ROKA: https://roka.com/huberman HVMN: https://hvmn.com code: “Huberman” LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman Supplements from Momentous https://www.livemomentous.com/huberman Social & Website Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Website: https://hubermanlab.com Newsletter: https://hubermanlab.com/neural-network Articles The neural basis of psychedelic action: https://go.nature.com/3VInMlE The effects of psilocybin and MDMA on between-network resting state functional connectivity in healthy volunteers: https://bit.ly/3VW8iL7 Increased low-frequency brain responses to music after psilocybin therapy for depression: https://bit.ly/3LKj6XK Quality of Acute Psychedelic Experience Predicts Therapeutic Efficacy of Psilocybin for Treatment-Resistant Depression: https://bit.ly/42c7y6x Brief structured respiration practices enhance mood and reduce physiological arousal: https://bit.ly/3wEvGRf Therapeutic use of psilocybin: Practical considerations for dosing and administration: https://bit.ly/3HPHLZM Psilocybin induces rapid and persistent growth of dendritic spines in frontal cortex in vivo: https://bit.ly/3HQ8J3z Psychedelics and Neuroplasticity: A Systematic Review Unraveling the Biological Underpinnings of Psychedelics: https://bit.ly/44Gpwjx Single-Dose Psilocybin for a Treatment-Resistant Episode of Major Depression: https://bit.ly/3pjvu9N Effects of Psilocybin-Assisted Therapy on Major Depressive Disorder: https://bit.ly/3sFSGMM The costs and benefits of psychedelics on cognition and mood: https://bit.ly/3NNyEwI Other Resources The Physiological Sigh: https://youtu.be/rBdhqBGqiMc Dr. Matthew Johnson: Psychedelic Medicine: https://hubermanlab.com/dr-matthew-johnson-psychedelic-medicine Timestamps 00:00:00 Psilocybin, Legal Considerations 00:08:32 Sponsors: Eight Sleep, ROKA, HVMN 00:12:00 Psilocybin Becomes Psilocin in the Gut, Serotonin 00:17:00 The Serotonin 2A Receptor, Therapeutic Outcomes SSRIs vs. Psilocybin 00:21:40 Serotonin Receptor Expression; Visual Hallucinations & Eyes Closed 00:27:21 Safety & Cautions for Specific Patient Populations 00:29:13 Sponsor: AG1 (Athletic Greens) 00:30:28 Psilocybin, “Magic Mushrooms” Dosing, Micro-Dosing, “Heroic Doses” 00:36:21 Psychedelic Journey: Set, Setting & Support 00:43:43 Music & the Psilocybin Journey; Duration of Effects 00:48:58 Psilocybin & the Brain: Subjective Experiences, Perception 00:58:36 Sponsor: LMNT 00:59:48 Brain Networks & Therapeutic Outcomes 01:05:23 Creativity; Music, Emotionality & Psychedelic Journeys 01:12:39 Depression & Psychedelics as Neuroplasticity “Wedge” 01:16:53 Positive Psychedelic Journeys, Unity, “Oceanic Boundlessness” 01:25:23 “Bad Trips”, Anxiety & Physiological Sighs 01:32:57 Therapeutic Use of Psilocybin 01:36:11 Neuroplasticity, Structural Brain Changes & Psilocybin 01:48:08 Psychedelics: Therapeutic Breakthroughs & Depression 01:56:37 Combining Psilocybin Therapy & Talk Therapy, Antidepressant Effects 02:03:11 Psilocybin Experience & Mental Health 02:06:42 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous, Neural Network Newsletter, Social Media Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac - https://www.blabacphoto.com Disclaimer: https://hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

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May 8, 20232h 9mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 25:00

    Introduction: What Psilocybin Is and Why It Matters

    Huberman introduces psilocybin as a psychedelic that alters consciousness acutely and can reshape perception, mood, and cognition long afterward. He frames the episode around psilocybin’s chemistry, its conversion to psilocin, neural mechanisms, clinical data, and the critical distinction between plasticity in general and adaptive, therapeutic plasticity.

    • Definition of psilocybin as a psychedelic that modifies psyche and consciousness.
    • Overview of potential clinical applications: depression, addictions, OCD, eating disorders.
    • Psilocybin is structurally similar to serotonin, but its effects are receptor‑specific.
    • Psilocin, not psilocybin, is the active compound in the brain.
    • Therapeutic gains often arise after, not during, the subjective ‘trip’.
  2. 25:00 – 42:00

    Serotonin, Tryptamines, and the 5‑HT2A Receptor

    This section explains how psilocybin fits within the tryptamine class and how its psilocin form mimics serotonin at specific receptors. Huberman contrasts natural serotonin signaling and SSRIs’ broad effects with psilocybin’s strong bias for 5‑HT2A receptors, setting up why its impact is distinct from standard antidepressants.

    • Tryptamines (psilocybin, DMT, 5‑MeO‑DMT) are structurally similar to serotonin.
    • Serotonin is a neuromodulator involved in satiety, mood, motivation, and many other functions via diverse receptor subtypes.
    • SSRIs increase serotonin broadly, often causing side effects across appetite, libido, and sleep.
    • Psilocybin/psilocin’s key action is potent activation of 5‑HT2A receptors, especially in cortex.
    • 5‑HT2A selectivity underlies both hallucinations and therapeutic neuroplasticity.
  3. 42:00 – 55:00

    Brain Targets: Neocortex, Visual Cortex, and Pyramidal Neurons

    Huberman details where 5‑HT2A receptors are concentrated and how their activation affects cortical circuits. He describes pyramidal neurons’ apical dendrites as key sites for expanded lateral communication across brain regions, explaining visual hallucinations and cross‑modal experiences under psilocybin.

    • High 5‑HT2A expression in prefrontal cortex and sensory cortices, especially visual cortex.
    • Visual hallucinations occur even with eyes closed, due to direct excitation of visual cortex.
    • Pyramidal neurons have apical dendrites with dense 5‑HT2A receptors.
    • Psilocybin increases lateral connectivity and reduces modularity in cortical networks.
    • Thalamic gating is relaxed, broadening upward flow of sensory signals and blending senses.
  4. 55:00 – 1:06:00

    Legal Status, Safety, and Contraindications

    This chapter underscores that psilocybin remains a Schedule I substance in the U.S., with only narrow therapeutic exceptions. Huberman outlines key risk groups—youth, those with psychosis or bipolar vulnerability, and people on serotonergic medications—and stresses that his discussion is descriptive, not a recommendation to self‑administer.

    • Psilocybin is illegal federally in the U.S., with limited decriminalization (e.g., Oregon) for supervised therapeutic use.
    • Possession and sale outside of trials and sanctioned programs remain prohibited.
    • Contraindicated in individuals with psychosis, bipolar disorder, or first‑degree relatives with such conditions.
    • Not studied in people under 25; adolescent/young adult brains already have high plasticity.
    • People on SSRIs or other serotonergic drugs are typically tapered off under medical supervision before trials.
  5. 1:06:00 – 1:18:00

    Dosing: Microdosing, Macrodosing, and Mushroom Conversions

    Huberman clarifies dosing terminology and how clinical doses map onto mushroom amounts. He explains the approximate 1% psilocybin content of typical ‘magic mushrooms,’ the variability in potency, and how that complicates informal use compared to standardized synthetic psilocybin in trials.

    • Clinical microdosing: roughly 1–3 mg psilocybin daily or frequently.
    • Therapeutic macrodosing: typically 10 mg (low) or 25–30 mg (high) in single or two‑session protocols.
    • Rule of thumb: 1 g dried mushrooms ≈ 10 mg psilocybin at ~1% potency.
    • ‘Heroic dose’ in psychonaut culture ≈ 5 g mushrooms ≈ ~50 mg psilocybin, often higher than clinical doses.
    • Actual mushroom potency ranges ~0.5–2%, so uncontrolled sourcing can double or halve an expected dose.
  6. 1:18:00 – 1:38:00

    Set and Setting: Safety, Guides, Eye Masks, and Music Structure

    This section lays out the architecture of a modern clinical psilocybin session—preparation, environment, and in‑session practices. Huberman emphasizes physical safety, trained sober guides, prolonged eyes‑closed periods, and carefully sequenced music as key factors that bias plasticity toward internal psychological work rather than external sensory novelty.

    • ‘Set’ = mindset; ‘setting’ = physical environment and people present.
    • Safety requirements: no access to windows, traffic, water; at least one (often two) sober guides.
    • Participants lie down or sit with an eye mask for most of the 4–6 hour journey.
    • Music contour: quiet, mostly instrumental early; intense, percussive at peak; then softer, choral, nature sounds as descent.
    • Eyes‑open, visually focused trips tend to fixate on external distortions and may be less therapeutic.
  7. 1:38:00 – 1:58:00

    Subjective Experience: Synesthesia, Ego Dissolution, and Oceanic Boundlessness

    Huberman describes the characteristic phenomenology of a high‑dose psilocybin journey: cross‑modal perception, linked breathing and music, and phases of anxiety and ego dissolution. He reviews data showing that specific experiential qualities—like oceanic boundlessness and insightfulness—predict antidepressant response better than mere intensity or visual complexity.

    • Common reports: blending of senses (synesthesia), such as breath or touch changing perceived music or visuals.
    • Typical time course: onset ~30–45 minutes, emotional/perceptual peak ~2 hours, then gradual ‘parachuting back’ by ~6 hours.
    • Questionnaire studies: higher scores for unity, spirituality, bliss, and insight correlate with better depression outcomes.
    • Visual hallucination complexity and synesthesia alone do not predict therapeutic benefit.
    • Ego dissolution and anxiety at the peak are central, but overwhelming anxiety is negatively correlated with outcomes.
  8. 1:58:00 – 2:12:00

    Managing Anxiety and the Importance of Skilled Guides

    Focusing on the challenging aspects of journeys, Huberman explains why peak‑phase anxiety is expected and how it should be navigated. He highlights emerging use of real‑time breathing tools, such as the physiological sigh, in clinical trials to keep arousal within beneficial bounds and lessen the risk of ‘bad trips.’

    • Peak phases often include intense anxiety, fear of ‘dying’ or losing oneself.
    • Guides normalize the experience, maintain safety, and encourage moving through rather than escaping it.
    • Excessive, uncontained anxiety relates to poorer antidepressant response.
    • Physiological sigh (double inhale, long exhale) reduces anxiety rapidly and is being integrated into psilocybin protocols.
    • Guides must understand both psychedelic contours and basic autonomic regulation.
  9. 2:12:00 – 2:30:00

    Neuroplasticity Mechanisms: Structural and Functional Brain Changes

    This chapter drills into how psilocybin reshapes the brain beyond the session. Huberman contrasts neurogenesis—likely a minor contributor in adults—with more dominant mechanisms such as dendritic growth and spine formation on pyramidal neurons, and he connects these to observed long‑term changes in network connectivity.

    • Adult neuroplasticity rarely depends on adding new neurons (neurogenesis), except perhaps modestly in hippocampus.
    • More relevant changes are growth/pruning of synapses and dendrites, especially in frontal cortex and sensory areas.
    • Rodent data: psilocybin rapidly increases dendritic spine number and size on frontal cortex pyramidal neurons; changes persist.
    • Depressed patients show reduced spine density in frontal cortex; antidepressant interventions often restore it.
    • Human imaging shows enduring increases in between‑network connectivity after psilocybin and MDMA in healthy volunteers.
  10. 2:30:00 – 2:55:00

    Beyond Depression: Music, Reward, and Life Experience

    Huberman reviews work showing psilocybin’s impact on how people emotionally process music and potentially other rewarding stimuli. He suggests that by altering connections between reward circuitry and sensory/emotional networks, psilocybin can restore pleasure responses in depression and reorganize how experiences like sadness are encoded.

    • Depression often blunts pleasure from music and other rewarding activities.
    • Post‑psilocybin imaging shows altered responses to music in reward and auditory regions.
    • Patients regain joy from previously enjoyable music and feel less overwhelmed by sad music.
    • These shifts likely reflect rewiring of emotional and sensory networks during the plasticity window.
    • Similar principles may apply to creativity and other experiential domains, though data are more limited.
  11. 2:55:00 – 3:18:00

    Clinical Evidence: Psilocybin for Major Depression and Addiction

    This section summarizes modern psilocybin trials for treatment‑resistant depression and other conditions. Huberman highlights single‑ and two‑session designs, key doses, comparative efficacy versus SSRIs and psychotherapy, and how strong but non‑universal response rates point to psilocybin as a powerful, but not magic, intervention.

    • Single‑dose trial (New England Journal of Medicine, 2022): 25 mg significantly outperformed 1 mg; 10 mg did not.
    • Two‑session protocols (often 25–30 mg per session) with ~11 hours of psychotherapy show large, rapid, sustained antidepressant effects.
    • Effect sizes are ~2.5× psychotherapy alone and >4× conventional antidepressants in comparable studies.
    • Evidence is strongest for cancer‑related depression/anxiety and treatment‑resistant depression; moderate for alcohol/tobacco use disorders; weaker but emerging for OCD, cluster headaches, and AIDS‑related demoralization.
    • Adverse events (headache, transient anxiety, suicidal ideation) increase with dose; careful screening and monitoring are essential.
  12. 3:18:00

    Cautions, Limitations, and Future Directions

    In closing, Huberman reiterates that psilocybin is a powerful ‘sharp blade’ that can drive profound adaptive change but also serious harm if misused. He emphasizes legal restrictions, contraindications, and the preliminary nature of much evidence, and previews future episodes exploring other psychedelics and more detailed clinical protocols.

    • Psilocybin remains illegal outside narrow clinical/legal frameworks; use must consider both law and health.
    • High‑risk groups (psychosis vulnerabilities, youth, pregnancy, breastfeeding) should avoid psilocybin.
    • Plasticity is value‑neutral; outcomes depend on context, supports, and subsequent behaviors.
    • Current science is promising but still early; many mechanistic details and optimal protocols remain unresolved.
    • Future episodes will cover LSD, DMT, 5‑MeO‑DMT, MDMA, ketamine, mescaline, and more, with in‑depth expert interviews.

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