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How to Breathe Correctly for Optimal Health, Mood, Learning & Performance

In this episode, I explain the biology of breathing (respiration), how it delivers oxygen and carbon dioxide to the cells and tissues of the body and how is best to breathe—nose versus mouth, fast versus slow, deliberately versus reflexively, etc., depending on your health and performance needs. I discuss the positive benefits of breathing properly for mood, to reduce psychological and physiological stress, to halt sleep apnea, and improve facial aesthetics and immune system function. I also compare what is known about the effects and effectiveness of different breathing techniques, including physiological sighs, box breathing and cyclic hyperventilation, “Wim Hof Method,” Prānāyāma yogic breathing and more. I also describe how to breath to optimize learning, memory and reaction time and I explain breathing at high altitudes, why “overbreathing” is bad, and how to breathe specifically to relieve cramps and hiccups. Breathwork practices are zero-cost and require minimal time yet provide a unique and powerful avenue to improve overall quality of life that is grounded in clear physiology. Anyone interesting in improving their mental and physical health or performance in any endeavor ought to benefit from the information and tools in this episode. #HubermanLab #Breathing #Science Thank you to our sponsors AG1 (Athletic Greens): https://athleticgreens.com/huberman HVMN: https://hvmn.com/huberman Thesis: https://takethesis.com/pages/huberman WHOOP: https://join.whoop.com/huberman InsideTracker: https://www.insidetracker.com/huberman Supplements from Momentous https://www.livemomentous.com/huberman Social & Website Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Website: https://hubermanlab.com Newsletter: https://hubermanlab.com/neural-network Articles Concentration of carbon dioxide, interstitial pH and synaptic transmission in hippocampal formation of the rat: https://bit.ly/3k3BG3y Effects of voluntary hyperventilation on cortical sensory responses Electroencephalographic and magnetoencephalographic studies: https://bit.ly/3k9rkyS Brief structured respiration practices enhance mood and reduce physiological arousal: https://bit.ly/3KgN5rj Breathing Rhythm and Pattern and Their Influence on Emotion: https://bit.ly/3XRxsda Nasal Respiration Entrains Human Limbic Oscillations and Modulates Cognitive Function: https://bit.ly/3EgX1gr Effect of breathwork on stress and mental health: A meta-analysis of randomised-controlled trials: https://go.nature.com/3XMKYi7 Books Jaws: The Story of a Hidden Epidemic: https://amzn.to/2UZoudJ Timestamps 00:00:00 Breathing 00:05:41 Sponsors: HVMN, Thesis, WHOOP 00:09:36 Respiration, Oxygen & Carbon Dioxide 00:18:18 Breathing Mechanics 00:30:08 AG1 (Athletic Greens) 00:31:23 Chemistry of Breathing, Hyperventilation 00:40:35 High Altitudes, Oxygen & Breathing 00:47:16 Tool: Sleep Apnea, Nasal Breathing 00:51:50 Brain Centers & Breathing Rhythm 00:57:23 Brain, Hyperventilation & “Over-breathing” 01:03:53 What is Healthy Breathing? 01:08:26 InsideTracker 01:09:44 Tool: Train Healthy Breathing, Carbon Dioxide Tolerance Test & Box Breathing 01:22:39 Tool: Breathwork & Stress Reduction; Cyclic Sighing 01:33:56 Tool: Physiological Sighing & Exercise Side Cramp 01:39:16 Breathing & Heart Rate Variability 01:46:21 Tool: How to Stop Hiccups 01:51:17 Tool: Stress Management & Cyclic Hyperventilation, “Wim Hof Method” 01:57:11 Deliberate Cold Exposure & Breathing 01:59:54 Tool: Inhales & Learning; Exhales & Movement 02:09:15 Mouth vs. Nasal Breathing, Aesthetics 02:16:19 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Reviews, YouTube Feedback, Sponsors, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac - https://www.blabacphoto.com The Huberman Lab podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions.

Andrew Hubermanhost
Feb 20, 20232h 18mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 15:00

    Breathing as the Bridge Between Mind and Body

    Huberman introduces breathing as a unique system that runs automatically yet can be consciously controlled, giving us direct access to change mental and physical state. He previews tools for stress reduction, alertness, performance, and even stopping hiccups, and frames breathing in terms of its mechanical and chemical components, with oxygen and carbon dioxide as central players.

    • Breathing is essential not just for life, but for mental health, physical health, and performance.
    • It is uniquely both automatic and voluntarily controllable, unlike digestion or most thought patterns.
    • Changing breathing patterns quickly changes brain excitability, affecting anxiety, learning, sleep, and focus.
    • Inhalation preferentially supports learning and memory; exhalation cannot be neglected but serves different roles.
  2. 15:00 – 25:00

    Sponsors and Context: Zero-Cost Tools and Commercial Support

    Huberman clarifies the podcast’s independence from his Stanford roles and introduces sponsors whose products he uses. This sets the context for free, science-based tools funded partly through commercial partnerships.

    • Podcast is separate from Stanford duties but aims to deliver free, science-grounded tools.
    • Sponsors discussed: HVMN (ketone supplement), Thesis (task-specific nootropics), Whoop (wearable for sleep and recovery), Athletic Greens/AG1, InsideTracker, and Momentous.
    • Sponsorships help keep the education zero-cost to listeners.
  3. 25:00 – 42:00

    Mechanics and Chemistry of Breathing: Oxygen, CO₂, and Parallel Pathways

    He distinguishes mechanical mechanisms (nose, mouth, lungs, diaphragm, intercostals) from chemical mechanisms (oxygen, carbon dioxide, pH) and explains how they work in parallel. Carbon dioxide is reframed from ‘waste gas’ to an essential molecule enabling oxygen delivery and modulating brain state.

    • Simple vs complex organisms: humans must breathe because oxygen cannot diffuse deep through skin.
    • CO₂ is required to liberate oxygen from hemoglobin; too little CO₂ impairs oxygen delivery.
    • Parallel pathways (mechanical + chemical) are a general principle in physiology (e.g., hunger, pain).
    • Understanding both mechanics and chemistry is prerequisite to understanding why specific breathing tools work.
  4. 42:00 – 56:00

    Lung Anatomy, Diaphragm, Intercostals, and the Power of Nasal Resistance

    Huberman details the physical structures involved in breathing, highlighting the role of alveoli, diaphragm, intercostal muscles, and rigid larynx. He dispels myths about diaphragmatic vs chest breathing and demonstrates why nasal breathing’s higher resistance allows deeper inflation than mouth breathing.

    • Lungs are not empty bags; hundreds of millions of alveoli massively increase surface area for gas exchange.
    • The diaphragm (driven by the phrenic nerve) and intercostals move the lungs; lungs themselves have no muscles.
    • There is no evidence diaphragmatic breathing is universally ‘better’ than ribcage breathing; both serve in parallel.
    • Nasal breathing creates more resistance, enabling greater air volume and fuller lung inflation than mouth breathing.
  5. 56:00 – 1:12:00

    Chemical Dynamics: CO₂, pH, and Hyperventilation’s Hidden Costs

    He explains how oxygen and carbon dioxide move between lungs and blood, why CO₂ is essential for tissue oxygenation, and how it controls blood pH. A demonstration of voluntary hyperventilation shows how lowering CO₂ raises arousal, constricts vessels, and paradoxically impairs brain function despite high blood oxygen.

    • Oxygen diffuses from alveoli into blood, binds hemoglobin, and requires CO₂-induced conformational changes to be released into tissues.
    • CO₂ strongly influences blood pH and vasodilation; too little CO₂ makes blood more alkaline and constricts vessels.
    • Hyperventilation (over-breathing) creates hypocapnia, increasing arousal and anxiety, constricting brain vasculature, and causing tingling.
    • Low CO₂ is a known trigger for seizures in susceptible individuals, underscoring its powerful neural effects.
  6. 1:12:00 – 1:26:00

    Breathing at Altitude: Pressure Gradients, Adaptation, and Training Effects

    Huberman explains why breathing feels hard at altitude, focusing on reduced atmospheric pressure and the need for stronger muscular effort to fill the lungs. He describes how training at altitude strengthens respiratory muscles and alters hemoglobin dynamics, yielding a performance boost when returning to sea level.

    • At altitude, external air pressure is lower, so the gradient driving air into low-pressure lungs is shallower.
    • Inhalation is active and becomes much harder at altitude; exhalation remains relatively passive.
    • Adaptation includes respiratory muscle strengthening and hemoglobin/CO₂ shifts that improve oxygen delivery.
    • Deliberate deeper breathing and controlled hyperventilation with holds can ease altitude transition symptoms.
  7. 1:26:00 – 1:37:00

    Sleep, Sleep Apnea, and the Shift Toward Nasal Breathing at Night

    He defines sleep apnea as under-breathing during sleep and emphasizes its serious health consequences, including cardiovascular risk, sexual dysfunction, and cognitive decline. Huberman discusses CPAP, and behavioral strategies like mouth taping and daytime nasal-breathing training to reduce snoring and mild sleep apnea.

    • Sleep apnea involves insufficient depth or frequency of breathing, causing nocturnal hypoxia and daytime sleepiness.
    • Consequences include heart attack, stroke, worsened dementia, and sexual dysfunction.
    • CPAP is effective but doesn’t retrain breathing; nasal breathing training (including safe mouth taping) can correct mild apnea.
    • Daytime nasal breathing during low-intensity exercise and work often carries over to better nighttime breathing.
  8. 1:37:00 – 1:50:00

    Brain Circuits of Breathing: Pre-Bötzinger Complex, Parafacial Nucleus, and Phrenic Nerve

    Huberman introduces the pre-Bötzinger complex as the central rhythm generator for inhale–exhale patterns and the parafacial nucleus as the controller of non-rhythmic patterns (stacked inhales/exhales, holds). He explains how these circuits interface with the phrenic nerve and how opioids can shut down breathing by silencing pre-Bötzinger neurons.

    • Pre-Bötzinger complex drives automatic rhythmic breathing (inhale–exhale cycles) and is essential for life.
    • Parafacial nucleus engages when we alter the pattern—stacked inhales, exhales, or deliberate breath holds.
    • Both systems converge on the phrenic nerve, which drives diaphragm movement and also carries sensory information.
    • Opioids bind receptors in pre-Bötzinger complex, shutting down rhythmic breathing and causing overdose deaths.
  9. 1:50:00 – 2:02:00

    Normal vs Abnormal Resting Breathing and the Carbon Dioxide Tolerance Test

    He describes healthy resting breathing at roughly 6 liters per minute and shows that most people chronically over-breathe during the day, and under-breathe at night. Huberman then walks listeners through the CO₂ tolerance test and explains how it reflects CO₂ handling and neuromechanical control of the diaphragm.

    • Healthy resting breathing is about 6 liters per minute, achievable with either ~12 shallow or fewer deeper breaths.
    • Many adults unconsciously take 15–30 breaths per minute, expelling too much CO₂ and hyperexciting the brain.
    • CO₂ tolerance test: full nasal inhale, timed slow nasal exhale to lungs-empty; short times indicate low CO₂ tolerance.
    • CO₂ tolerance fluctuates with stress and state but can be systematically improved.
  10. 2:02:00 – 2:11:00

    Box Breathing Protocol to Recalibrate Baseline Breathing

    Using CO₂ tolerance as a guide, Huberman prescribes a box breathing protocol with tailored side lengths (3, 5–6, or 8–10 seconds) for 2–3 minutes, 1–2 times weekly. Over time, this reshapes neural control of the diaphragm, lengthens exhalation capacity, and produces slower, deeper, calmer default breathing.

    • Box breathing: equal-duration inhale–hold–exhale–hold through the nose, total cycle matched to individual CO₂ tolerance.
    • Short-tolerance individuals start with 3-second sides; moderate with 5–6; high with 8–10 seconds.
    • Practice 2–3 minutes once or twice per week is sufficient to induce measurable changes.
    • Retesting CO₂ tolerance every few weeks tracks progress and allows step-ups in box duration.
  11. 2:11:00 – 2:23:00

    Huberman Lab Study: Breathwork vs Meditation for Stress, Mood, and Sleep

    Huberman outlines a large remote study comparing three breathwork protocols and a mindfulness meditation control over a month, using WHOOP straps and self-report measures. Cyclic sighing (repeated physiological sighs) outperformed box breathing, cyclic hyperventilation, and meditation in reducing 24-hour stress, improving mood, and enhancing sleep.

    • Four groups: mindfulness meditation, box breathing, cyclic hyperventilation, cyclic sighing; all practiced 5 minutes daily.
    • All interventions reduced stress; breathwork outperformed meditation for stress reduction.
    • Cyclic sighing (double nasal inhale + long mouth exhale, repeated) produced the largest, most durable improvements.
    • The study measured around-the-clock physiological changes, not just during the practice itself.
  12. 2:23:00 – 2:36:00

    Physiological Sigh: Real-Time Stress Control and Performance Applications

    He dives deeper into the physiological sigh as a reflexive behavior discovered in the 1930s to correct under-breathing and excessive CO₂ buildup. Huberman explains how we spontaneously sigh in sleep and during stress, then details how intentional use can rapidly control acute stress, prevent panic, and even eliminate exercise-induced side-stitches.

    • Physiological sigh: deep nasal inhale, second short nasal inhale, long full exhale through the mouth.
    • Naturally occurs in sleep and during stress to reopen collapsed alveoli and rebalance CO₂/O₂.
    • One deliberate sigh quickly lowers autonomic arousal; 5 minutes of cyclic sighing reshapes daily stress levels.
    • During a right-side side-stitch, performing 2–3 physiological sighs while moving typically relieves the pain.
  13. 2:36:00 – 2:48:00

    Breathing–Heart Link and Using Exhales to Control Heart Rate

    Huberman explains respiratory sinus arrhythmia: inhales speed heart rate, exhales slow it, via changes in heart volume and autonomic feedback. He shows how this principle underlies heart rate variability and all structured breathing practices, and how it’s used by snipers, fighters, and clinicians managing panic.

    • Inhale → diaphragm down, heart enlarges, blood slows, reflexively increasing heart rate.
    • Exhale → diaphragm up, heart compresses, blood speeds, reflexively slowing heart rate.
    • Box breathing equalizes inhale/exhale effects; physiological sigh nets a heart-rate decrease.
    • Extended exhalation protocols are powerful tools to lower heart rate and anxiety on demand.
  14. 2:48:00 – 2:57:00

    Cold Exposure, Rhythmic Breathing, and Stress Inoculation

    He cautions against hyperventilation near water but supports using deliberate cold exposure as a stress-inoculation tool when combined with controlled rhythmic breathing. Maintaining rhythmic inhale–exhale patterns in cold water helps preserve prefrontal function and trains calm under duress.

    • Never combine cyclic hyperventilation with water immersion due to shallow water blackout risk.
    • Cold exposure initially suppresses prefrontal cortex function; breathing often becomes chaotic.
    • Imposing rhythmic breathing (even if rapid) restores control and blunts panic.
    • This practice teaches maintaining cognitive control while the body is in high-adrenaline states.
  15. 2:57:00 – 3:16:00

    Breathing and the Brain: Learning, Memory, Fear, and Reaction Time

    Huberman cites human intracranial recording studies showing that nasal inhalation entrains limbic and hippocampal oscillations, improving detection of fearful and novel stimuli and boosting memory performance. He describes how inhalation vs exhalation phases distinctly impact cognitive and motor abilities.

    • Nasal inhalation enlarges pupils, speeds reaction time, and improves detection of fear and surprise.
    • Hippocampal and limbic oscillations are more effectively engaged during inhalation, enhancing learning and recall.
    • For studying or memory tasks, slightly inhale-biased breathing can be advantageous if not taken to hyperventilation.
    • Voluntary power movements (e.g., strikes, swings) are more efficient when timed with exhalation, not inhalation.
  16. 3:16:00 – 3:26:00

    Hiccups, Phrenic Nerve Reset, and Specific Breath Protocols

    Huberman explains hiccups as phrenic nerve spasms causing sudden, painful diaphragm contractions and describes why many folk remedies are unreliable. He then gives a phrenic nerve ‘reset’ protocol—three stacked nasal inhales, brief hold, slow exhale—that typically stops hiccups in one or two tries.

    • Hiccups arise from spasmodic firing of the phrenic nerve controlling the diaphragm.
    • Sensory fibers of the phrenic nerve also involve the liver and deep diaphragm, causing the pain sensation.
    • Traditional methods like breathing into a bag or drinking from a glass backward are indirect and inconsistent.
    • Triple nasal inhale → 15–20 second hold → slow exhale hyperexcites then hyperpolarizes the phrenic nerve, halting spasms.
  17. 3:26:00 – 3:41:00

    Cyclic Hyperventilation: Adrenaline, CO₂ Dumping, and Stress Inoculation

    He revisits cyclic hyperventilation (as in Wim Hof and related methods), outlining its physiological effects: reduced CO₂, vasoconstriction, increased adrenaline, and diminished breath-drive. Huberman frames it not as a relaxation tool but as a deliberate way to experience and learn to control high-arousal states.

    • Rapid deep inhales and exhales lower CO₂, delay the CO₂-driven urge to breathe, and allow long breath holds.
    • This method strongly increases adrenaline from the adrenals and epinephrine from locus coeruleus.
    • Properly used (on land, away from water), it can train calm thinking under self-induced stress.
    • Not recommended for those prone to panic attacks or seizures without clinical supervision.
  18. 3:41:00 – 3:56:00

    Nasal vs Mouth Breathing, Facial Development, and the Book ‘Jaws’

    Huberman makes a strong case for default nasal breathing, citing work from the book ‘Jaws: A Hidden Epidemic.’ He explains how mouth breathing degrades respiratory efficiency and facial structure, while nasal breathing enhances nitric oxide production, vascular health, airway function, and craniofacial aesthetics.

    • Nasal breathing increases resistance, enabling deeper lung inflation and better CO₂/O₂ balance.
    • Nasal passages produce nitric oxide, which dilates blood vessels and improves tissue perfusion.
    • Chronic mouth breathing is linked to elongated faces, drooping features, and dental crowding; nasal breathing reverses many of these.
    • A practical test: tongue resting on palate behind the teeth while nasal breathing; training improves palate space and breathing.
  19. 3:56:00

    Recap, Tools Summary, and Closing Notes

    Huberman recaps the main concepts—mechanical vs chemical aspects of breathing, CO₂’s critical role, key tools like the physiological sigh, CO₂ tolerance testing, box breathing, and specific problem-solving protocols. He encourages experimentation, emphasizes that breathwork is fast-acting and not a hack but built into our neurobiology, and closes with usual notes on supporting the podcast and newsletter.

    • Breathwork tools are low-cost, fast-acting ways to influence brain state, stress, sleep, and performance.
    • Physiological sighs, box breathing, and nasal-breathing training are high-yield practices for most people.
    • Breathing is a direct lever over brain excitability and autonomic balance—using it is using the brain to control itself.
    • Listeners are encouraged to apply tools, track changes, and integrate breathing into daily life and training.

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