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Tools for Hormone Optimization in Males | Dr. Kyle Gillett

My guest is Kyle Gillett, MD, a dual board-certified physician in family medicine and obesity medicine and an expert in optimizing hormone levels to improve overall health. We discuss how to optimize male hormones using a range of nutritional and behavioral tools, exercise and supplementation (including tongkat ali, fadogia agrestis, creatine, peptides and more). We explain how puberty and aging affect hormone levels, how to use bloodwork to monitor hormone levels, how hormone health impacts fertility, libido, hair loss and prostate health and describe behaviors that negatively impact testosterone levels. We also discuss how to approach prescription hormone therapies, including which biomarkers to monitor when using these approaches and how to optimize synergistic hormones (e.g., growth hormone and thyroid hormone) to support complete hormone health safely and rationally. Dr. Gillett offers numerous actionable tools that can be tailored to specific goals and age ranges to attain and maintain optimal levels of male hormones for overall health, well-being and longevity. Thank you to our sponsors AG1 (Athletic Greens): https://athleticgreens.com/huberman Thesis: https://takethesis.com/huberman ROKA: https://www.roka.com/huberman Helix Sleep: https://helixsleep.com/huberman InsideTracker: https://www.insidetracker.com/huberman Huberman Lab Premium https://hubermanlab.com/premium Social & Website Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Website: https://hubermanlab.com Newsletter: https://hubermanlab.com/neural-network Dr. Kyle Gillet Dr. Gillett’s clinic: https://gilletthealth.com Gillet Health YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@gilletthealth6738 The Gillet Health Podcast on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3Bu13kh The Gillet Health Podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3FJSCUz Instagram: https://www.Instagram.com/kylegillettmd Twitter: https://twitter.com/gilletthealth Timestamps 00:00:00 Dr. Kyle Gillett & Male Hormone Optimization 00:03:40 Thesis, ROKA, Helix Sleep, Momentous 00:07:43 Puberty: Height, Resistance Training, Childhood Obesity 00:15:14 “First” vs. “Second” Puberty 00:17:17 Hormone Optimization & Blood Work 00:22:14 Diet, Exercise, Sleep & Hormones 00:28:23 Hormones, Stress, Social Connection & Purpose 00:32:19 Hormones, Supplementation & Medication 00:34:08 Determining Individual Hormone Levels, ADAM Questionnaire 00:40:35 Libido, Masturbation, Pornography & the Dopamine “Wave Pool” 00:48:32 AG1 (Athletic Greens) 00:49:46 Sustainable Exercise Regimen for Hormone Health 00:58:12 Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) 01:01:02 Supplementation: Creatine & Hair Loss, Betaine, L-Carnitine & Allicin (Garlic) 01:11:45 Vitamin D, Boron; SHBG & Free Testosterone 01:15:34 InsideTracker 01:16:39 Tongkat Ali (Eurycoma longifolia; Longjack) & Steroid Pathways 01:22:09 Fadogia Agrestis & Testosterone 01:26:32 Optimize Growth Hormone & IGF-1: Diet, Fasting, Supplements & Exercise 01:31:52 Optimize Thyroid Hormone: Iodine & Goitrogens 01:33:56 Peptides: Growth Hormone, Tesamorelin, Ibutamoren & Gut Microbiome 01:42:06 Testosterone Therapy 01:47:03 Prescriptions & Hormones: Human Choriogonadotropin (HCG), Clomiphene 01:52:56 Testosterone Therapy + HCG, Fertility & Temperature 01:55:30 Hormone Health Q&A: Marijuana, Nicotine, Cycling, Pelvic Floor, Alcohol, Fat 02:06:08 Prostate Health & Tadalafil, Prostate Specific Antigen (PSA) 02:09:56 Hair Loss & DHT; Turmeric & Curcuminoids 02:18:13 BPAs, Phthalates & Hormone Health 02:21:55 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Social Media, Momentous, Neural Network Newsletter The Huberman Lab podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions.

Andrew HubermanhostDr. Kyle Gillettguest
Dec 12, 20222h 24mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 11:00

    Introduction, Guest Background, and Episode Overview

    Andrew Huberman introduces the episode’s focus on male hormone optimization and his guest, Dr. Kyle Gillett, a dual board‑certified physician specializing in hormones. They preview a lifespan approach—from infancy through old age—covering behavioral, nutritional, supplement, and pharmacologic tools, as well as the bidirectional relationship between hormones and psychology.

  2. 11:00 – 20:20

    Two Puberties, Growth, and the Risks of Early or Rapid Development

    Gillett explains that humans experience a ‘mini‑puberty’ in the first three months of life, driven largely by adrenal DHEA, and then the more familiar adolescent puberty starting with adrenarche. They discuss how the timing and pace of puberty affect adult height, body composition, and how childhood obesity and ‘dirty bulking’ can trigger early puberty and limit stature.

  3. 20:20 – 36:55

    Weight Training, Dirty Bulking, and Stature

    They address myths about resistance training stunting growth and clarify that lifting weights is not the issue—excess body fat is. ‘Dirty bulking’ during childhood and adolescence promotes early puberty via leptin and estrogen conversion, potentially reducing adult height and altering body composition long term.

  4. 36:55 – 45:50

    When to Get Labs and What to Measure

    Gillett recommends early and repeated blood work to track hormonal and metabolic health across life. He specifies when young people should first test (late puberty) and suggests six‑monthly follow‑ups from around age 18, emphasizing total testosterone, SHBG or free testosterone, DHT, estradiol, thyroid, IGF‑1, and lipids.

  5. 45:50 – 58:10

    Foundational Pillars: Diet, Sleep, Micronutrients, and Gut Health

    They lay out core lifestyle pillars: diet, exercise, sleep, stress, social connection, and purpose. During adolescence and into the 20s–30s, adequate protein, vitamin D, calcium, iodine, essential fatty acids, and prebiotic fiber are highlighted as crucial for hormone production, bone density, and brain and gut development.

  6. 58:10 – 1:06:50

    Caloric Restriction, Body Fat, and Testosterone

    The discussion clarifies when caloric restriction is helpful or harmful for testosterone. For overweight individuals, moderate, well‑designed fat loss can improve long‑term androgen status; for lean individuals, caloric deficits raise SHBG, reduce free testosterone and estrogen, and push the body into a catabolic state.

  7. 1:06:50 – 1:13:00

    Stress, Social Connection, Purpose, and Mindset

    Gillett frames stress management, social relationships, and sense of purpose as ‘pillars’ just as important as diet and exercise. They discuss how chronic stress disrupts all other behaviors, and how social isolation—whether lack of family or friendships—can undermine hormone health and overall well‑being.

  8. 1:13:00 – 1:21:20

    Supplements vs Medications: How and When to Use Them

    They compare supplements and medications as similar ‘tools’ that differ mainly in potency and side-effect risk. Supplement use is justified for athletes, high cognitive performers, and those aggressively optimizing health once lifestyle foundations are in place, but always with attention to cost and necessity.

  9. 1:21:20 – 1:47:30

    Assessing ‘Optimization’: Libido, Mood, and the ADAM Questionnaire

    Huberman asks how men can know if their libido, energy, and recovery are ‘normal’ versus hormonally impaired. Gillett emphasizes subjective interviews, motivational interviewing, and tools like the ADAM questionnaire, noting that men often underreport problems—especially around sexual function—until late in the consultation.

  10. 1:47:30 – 2:14:40

    Porn, Masturbation, Dopamine, and Hormones

    They link high‑frequency porn and masturbation to prolactin spikes, suppressed LH/testicular activity, and maladaptive dopamine patterns. Using the ‘dopamine wave pool’ analogy, Gillett explains how repeated extreme stimuli deepen motivational troughs, lower baseline dopamine, and shift sexual arousal toward screen‑based experiences.

  11. 2:14:40 – 2:39:10

    Exercise Programming for Hormone Health

    They outline how to structure resistance and cardiovascular training for optimal hormones. The key is to train vigorously but not chronically past 60 minutes, avoid pairing intense overtraining with caloric deficits, and incorporate easier movement days. Huberman notes that he feels best with ~1 hour/day, leaving some energy in reserve.

  12. 2:39:10 – 2:58:20

    Creatine, Betaine, and L‑Carnitine for Hormone and Performance Support

    They delve into specific supplements that modestly support testosterone/DHT and cellular energetics. Creatine and betaine aid energy transfer and slightly raise testosterone and DHT; L‑carnitine acts as a mitochondrial shuttle and increases androgen receptor density. They stress appropriate dosing, cycling considerations, and managing TMAO with garlic or gut optimization.

  13. 2:58:20 – 3:21:20

    Vitamin D, Boron, Tongkat Ali, and Fadogia Agrestis

    They discuss several popular hormonal supplements: vitamin D as a true hormone, boron to reduce high SHBG, Tongkat ali to increase testosterone and slightly lower SHBG, and Fadogia agrestis to raise LH. They highlight dosing, lab monitoring, and rat toxicity data to define safer human protocols.

  14. 3:21:20 – 3:38:10

    Growth Hormone, IGF‑1, and Why Fasting Isn’t the Magic Answer

    Gillett explains GH/IGF‑1 physiology and why pulsatility and receptor sensitivity matter more than raw GH levels. While fasting increases GH release, downstream signaling often doesn’t increase proportionally due to receptor desensitization. Avoiding food for ~2 hours before sleep is beneficial for the natural GH pulse, but aggressive GH‑targeted fasting in already healthy individuals offers limited hormonal benefit.

  15. 3:38:10 – 3:59:10

    Peptides for GH: Sermorelin, Ipamorelin, MK‑677, and Safety Concerns

    They survey GH‑releasing peptides like sermorelin, ipamorelin, and MK‑677, breaking them into ghrelin agonists versus GHRH mimetics. While these can raise GH and IGF‑1, doses used in ‘optimization’ circles often far exceed physiologic ranges, and non‑pharmacy sources may be contaminated with LPS, posing inflammatory and safety risks.

  16. 3:59:10 – 4:27:20

    TRT, hCG, and Why Early or Unnecessary Testosterone Is Problematic

    They critically examine trends of young men using TRT despite normal hormone levels. Gillett outlines typical ‘physiologic’ dosing (around 100–120 mg/week divided doses), emphasizes that exogenous T flattens natural circadian pulsatility, and details multi‑organ risks. hCG can help preserve fertility in some but not all men, and requires careful lab and clinical monitoring.

  17. 4:27:20 – 4:49:40

    Clomiphene, SERMs, and Why They’re Poor Long-Term Solutions

    Clomiphene and other SERMs are increasingly marketed as ‘safer than TRT’ for young men. Gillett explains that they work by blocking estrogen feedback at the hypothalamus/pituitary, raising LH and testosterone—but they also interact with multiple estrogen receptor subtypes in many tissues, leading to notable side effects, including visual disturbances.

  18. 4:49:40 – 5:08:10

    Tadalafil for Prostate Health, ED, and Androgen Receptor Density

    Low‑dose daily tadalafil (Cialis) emerges as an underrated prescription option. Beyond treating ED, it supports prostate health, reduces nocturia, marginally lowers blood pressure, and increases androgen receptor density—offering systemic benefits when used appropriately and monitored for visual side effects at higher doses.

  19. 5:08:10 – 5:32:20

    Drugs, Substances, and Lifestyle ‘Don’ts’ for Hormones

    They rapidly review common substances that impair male hormone health: smoked cannabis, nicotine, excessive alcohol, very low‑fat diets, and chronic seated cycling or heated seating for testicular health. They also explain how TRT, opiates, benzodiazepines, and aromatase inhibitors can depress testosterone or disrupt essential estrogen signaling.

  20. 5:32:20 – 5:57:40

    Hair Loss, DHT Modulation, and Topical vs Systemic Approaches

    They unpack the complex relationship between DHT, hair loss, and sexual and cardiovascular health. Gillett distinguishes systemic 5‑alpha‑reductase inhibitors like finasteride/dutasteride from topical agents and explains how partial inhibition of certain isoenzymes—and changes in genital skin sensitivity—contribute to sexual side effects. Topical combos (ketoconazole, caffeine, topical dutasteride) allow more local scalp action with less systemic DHT suppression.

  21. 5:57:40 – 6:12:20

    Turmeric, Black Pepper Extract, and 5‑Alpha‑Reductase

    They revisit Huberman’s own negative experience with turmeric suppressing his DHT and energy. Gillett explains that much of turmeric’s benefit is via the gut, but when combined with black pepper extract (piperine/Bioperine), it becomes a systemic 5‑alpha‑reductase inhibitor affecting DHT and liver enzymes. This highlights how ‘natural’ supplements can significantly affect hormone pathways.

  22. 6:12:20 – 6:29:00

    BPA, Phthalates, and Environmental Endocrine Disruptors

    They close by considering BPA and phthalates as environmental estrogens and endocrine disruptors. While prenatal exposure is clearly harmful to male reproductive development, Gillett still avoids BPA plastics and tests household water for microplastics and contaminants, noting regional variability and links between processed foods (like certain boxed mac and cheese) and phthalate exposure.

  23. 6:29:00

    Wrap‑Up and Resources

    Huberman thanks Gillett and emphasizes the breadth of actionable strategies covered: from puberty windows and lifestyle pillars to nuanced supplement and prescription decisions. He previews a future episode on female hormone optimization, reminds listeners about the podcast’s free resources, and points to social channels and newsletters for additional tools.

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