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Using Play to Rewire & Improve Your Brain

In this episode, I discuss the transformative nature of play—how it changes our feelings, thoughts and actions and indeed, how it can rewire our brain to function better in all contexts. I explain the role of play in childhood, as well as adulthood in skill and social development and describe key characteristics of the mind and body during play. Additionally, I explore how play allows the brain to test contingencies in different roles/environments. Throughout, I discuss the underlying neurobiology of play. I also describe how low-stakes play, and tinkering can broaden and shape your future capabilities. Finally, I discuss how our childhood ‘personal play identity’ informs our adult personality. Throughout the episode, I use the science of play to outline recommendations for using play as a means to enhance neuroplasticity and explore novel situations, regardless of age. #HubermanLab #Neuroscience #Play Thank you to our sponsors: AG1 (Athletic Greens) - https://www.athleticgreens.com/huberman ROKA - https://www.roka.com - code "huberman" Helix Sleep: https://helixsleep.com/huberman Our Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/andrewhuberman Supplements from Thorne: https://www.thorne.com/u/huberman Social & Website Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Twitter - https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab Website - https://hubermanlab.com Newsletter - https://hubermanlab.com/neural-network Article Links Reading on a smartphone affects sigh generation, brain activity, and comprehension - https://go.nature.com/3rycDqe In search of the neurobiological substrates for social playfulness in mammalian brains - https://bit.ly/3rvDvXP Is chess just a game, or is it a mirror that reflects the child's inner world? - https://bit.ly/3gsUNyr A new structural model for the study of adult playfulness: Assessment and exploration of an understudied individual differences variable - https://bit.ly/3otwvIU 5MinuteConsult Journal Club - https://bit.ly/3sf7H8w Book Links Personal play identity and the fundamental elements in its development process - https://bit.ly/331oYtm Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain - https://amzn.to/3uLnC1B Play It Away: A Workaholic’s Cure for Anxiety - https://amzn.to/3AZFUgx Timestamps 00:00:00 The Power of Play 00:02:23 Tool: Reading on Smart Phones, Sighing & Learning 00:09:14 AG1 (Athletic Greens), Roka, Helix Sleep 00:13:57 Homeostatic Regulation of Play 00:23:53 Childhood Play & Mindsets 00:29:21 Contingency Testing 00:32:17 The (Power of) Playful Mindset 00:36:13 Body Postures 00:44:03 Rule Testing & Breaking 00:48:24 Role Play 00:50:39 Neurobiology of Low-stakes Play 00:54:22 Expanding Capabilities through Tinkering 01:00:03 Play Is THE Portal to Neuroplasticity 01:04:44 Adulthood Play 01:10:14 Fire Together, Wire Together 01:18:03 Trauma & Play Deficits & Recovery 01:23:25 Competition & Dynamic Movement 01:27:36 Chess, Mental Roles, Novelty 01:32:52 Personal Play Identity 01:37:24 Play Transforms Your Future Self 01:40:55 Recommendations for Play 01:44:25 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify/Apple Reviews, YouTube, Sponsors, Patreon, Instagram, Twitter, Thorne Please note that The Huberman Lab Podcast is distinct from Dr. Huberman's teaching and research roles at Stanford University School of Medicine. The information provided in this show is not medical advice, nor should it be taken or applied as a replacement for medical advice. The Huberman Lab Podcast, its employees, guests and affiliates assume no liability for the application of the information discussed. Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac - https://www.blabacphoto.com

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Feb 7, 20221h 46mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 4:05

    Introduction: Redefining Play as a Scientific Superpower

    Huberman frames play as a serious subject in neuroscience with enormous utility for adults and children alike. He previews topics including play’s impact on creativity, leadership, ADHD, focus, and lifelong brain plasticity.

  2. 4:05 – 19:20

    Smartphones, Breathing, and Why Screens Can Impair Learning

    He reviews a new Scientific Reports study showing that reading on smartphones reduces comprehension versus paper, mediated by changes in breathing and prefrontal cortex activity. He connects visual aperture, breathing patterns, and cognitive performance, offering practical countermeasures.

  3. 19:20 – 29:30

    Sponsors and Context: Zero-Cost Science and Supporting Physiology

    Huberman clarifies the independence of the podcast from his Stanford roles and segues through sponsor reads. While commercial, these segments reinforce his focus on foundational health pillars like sleep, vision, and gut-brain interactions.

  4. 29:30 – 43:00

    What Is Play For? Homeostasis, Opioids, and Contingency Testing

    Huberman defines play’s evolutionary and neural foundations, emphasizing that it’s not mere ‘fun’ but structured contingency testing in low-stakes environments. He introduces Jaak Panksepp’s work, endogenous opioids, and the periaqueductal gray’s role.

  5. 43:00 – 54:00

    From Babies to Toddlers: Early Rules of Stress, Ownership, and Sharing

    He examines developmental stages to show how early experiences with distress, caregiving, and possession shape our initial rule-set for interacting with the world. Burton White’s “Toddler’s Creed” illustrates toddlers’ extreme egocentrism and the role of play in moving beyond it.

  6. 54:00 – 1:06:00

    Play as Low-Stakes Role and Rule Testing: From Board Games to Dirt Clod Wars

    Huberman deepens the concept of play as rule and role experimentation, contrasting high-stakes sport with low-stakes games. He uses personal anecdotes and animal behavior to illustrate how boundary testing, rule-breaking, and feedback shape social competencies.

  7. 1:06:00 – 1:18:00

    Play Postures, Soft Eyes, and the Body Language of ‘Let’s Play’

    He describes universal body postures and facial expressions that signal a play invitation across species. These partial and softened postures serve to explicitly limit power and aggression, framing interactions as low-stakes.

  8. 1:18:00 – 1:27:30

    The Neurochemical Recipe of Effective Play—and Why Outcome Obsession Blocks It

    Huberman clarifies that not all games or competition qualify as neuroplastic ‘play.’ Effective play requires a specific chemistry—moderate focus, endogenous opioids, and low adrenaline. Over-attachment to outcomes pushes you out of play and into rigid performance.

  9. 1:27:30 – 1:36:30

    Play, Work, and Creativity: Tinkerers, Athletes, Artists, and Feynman

    He connects playfulness to high achievement in science, engineering, art, and athletics, emphasizing tinkering as a common thread. NASA engineers, innovative skateboarders, and playful pranksters like Richard Feynman all leveraged low-stakes exploration to generate breakthrough ideas.

  10. 1:36:30 – 1:44:00

    Developmental Neuroplasticity: Pruning, Google Maps, and How Play Wires the Brain

    He explains how early play experiences sculpt neural circuits via pruning and strengthening, using a ‘Google Maps’ analogy. Play determines which connections are retained and which are removed, thereby defining who we become—but adult play can still modify and expand these maps.

  11. 1:44:00 – 1:52:30

    Trauma, Stress, and Using Play to Reopen a Shut-Down Brain

    Huberman explores why trauma and chronic stress limit plasticity by suppressing play circuits and outlines how modern therapies are leveraging play and movement to repair traumatized brains. He argues there won’t be a simple ‘pill cure’ and that behavioral exploration is essential.

  12. 1:52:30 – 2:01:30

    Choosing Your Play: Movement, Chess, and Role-Dense Games

    He distinguishes between mere exercise and true play, emphasizing novelty, multi-directional movement, and varied roles. Dynamic sports, dance, and cognitively complex games like chess are highlighted as specially effective vehicles for broadening plasticity.

  13. 2:01:30 – 2:12:00

    Personal Play Identity: How Childhood Play Scripts Your Adult Roles

    Huberman introduces the concept of personal play identity—how your habits of play in late childhood/adolescence echo in adult work and relationships. He points to research by Gokhan Güneş and suggests introspection and questionnaires as tools for understanding and reshaping your identity.

  14. 2:12:00 – 2:21:00

    Practical Protocol: One Hour of Real Play Per Week

    In closing, Huberman translates the science into a simple, actionable protocol: at least one hour per week of genuinely low-stakes, exploratory play. He emphasizes avoiding outcome obsession, embracing discomfort, and using play to keep the brain young and flexible.

  15. 2:21:00

    Outro: Resources, Sponsors, and Invitation to Engage

    Huberman wraps up by reiterating the importance of play, inviting audience engagement, and pointing to additional resources on plasticity and learning. He underscores that interest in science and self-directed experimentation are central to his mission.

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