Jay Shetty PodcastCommon Exclusive: ''I Was a Broken Kid, But This Mindset Shift Got me Grammy's!''
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Introduction
- COCommon
One of my greatest lessons has been in one of the greatest pains I had, and that was a heartbreak.
- SPSpeaker
[camera shutter snapping] Hip hop icon Common is an Academy Award, Emmy, and three-time Grammy-winning artist.
- JSJay Shetty
What was the hardest part about learning to love yourself and take care of yourself?
- COCommon
Sometimes I can bring that little Rashid into the present and those feelings of being rejected and make this new rejection greater than what it really is.
- JSJay Shetty
Heartbreak, therapy. You're talking about the trauma you've been through. These are not themes that hip-hop's known for.
- COCommon
All I was doing was telling my truth.
- JSJay Shetty
How have you learned in the moment to deal with that emotion and to learn how to trust?
- COCommon
You understand what energy you want in your life and who deserves to be in your life. I usually wouldn't seize the moment. The thought came to me like, "I'm gonna call John Legend," and I tell him, "Hey, man, I'm part of this movie Selma, and they don't want a song from us, so we submitting it. But will you do this song?" And he said...
- SPSpeaker
The number one health and wellness podcast.
- SPSpeaker
Jay Shetty.
- SPSpeaker
Jay Shetty.
- SPSpeaker
The one, the only Jay Shetty.
- COCommon
[laughs]
- 1:13 – 2:15
Live In Chicago
- JSJay Shetty
I'm so excited to finally share the live interviews from my very first podcast tour presented by Chase Sapphire Reserve. This one was recorded live at the legendary Chicago Theatre with the one and only Common. Special thanks to MSG Entertainment and the Chicago Theatre.
- COCommon
Chicago, Chicago, peace.
- SPSpeaker
[cheering]
- COCommon
I love this place. Chicago.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs] I am so excited to be here tonight at the Chicago Theatre-
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
-in Chicago with Mr. Chicago.
- COCommon
What a blessing. Thank you.
- JSJay Shetty
The one and only Common.
- SPSpeaker
[cheering]
- JSJay Shetty
Oh.
- COCommon
Thank you.
- JSJay Shetty
Common, I, I want to start off by just saying how grateful I am to you for your artistry. I grew up listening to you in London. Your music, your words, your energies made it all the way over to the fourteen-year-old me, who was dreaming of being a rapper.
- COCommon
Wow. [laughs]
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
And then I listened to you and realized I wasn't good enough.
- COCommon
No, no, no.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
And we've spoken
- 2:15 – 6:11
Common Before the Fame
- JSJay Shetty
before. We never met until tonight.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And your voice has such a power. It carries so much energy. It carries so much that the frequency you operate at comes through your voice so powerfully, and I want to start off by asking you, you know, today, obviously, we know you as the Emmy Award winner, the Grammy Award winner, the Oscar award winner.
- COCommon
Yeah. Yeah.
- SPSpeaker
[cheering]
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah. Give it up. Right? It's like, there's not many people. There's not many people. But I want to know who Common was before-
- COCommon
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
...the Emmy, the Grammy, the Oscar, because that's what we've been talking about tonight, is when you're at the start of your journey, who were you at the start of your journey?
- COCommon
Well, first, thank you, Jay, and thank you all, and I just thank God for this moment.
- SPSpeaker
[cheering]
- COCommon
And who I was before I was out as an artist, I was a young Black boy from the South Side of Chicago-
- SPSpeaker
[cheering]
- COCommon
-who, who had a, a tremendous, incredible mother and a great stepfather and a beautiful community that taught me everything from God to, to survival, to intelligence, to basketball, to music, um, to life and to love. And that gave me a foundation of someone who wanted to actually be something in the world. I didn't know what I wanted to be all the way, but I knew I wanted to give something to the world, and that's who I was before I actually got to be out there as an artist. Some of my dreams was basketball, to be a basketball player. Um, [laughs] but I can hoop, y'all, just, just so you know. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
Not as good as I used to, but I can hoop. But, uh, yeah, so, you know, I just wanted to be something. It, it's something though, Jay. The one thing that got me when I was really a young kid was I used to love this English class because our English teacher would teach us a lot about, like, Black history and, and, like, all these great writers from James Baldwin and Dr. Maya Angelou and, and, um, Nikki Giovanni and Richard Wright. So one day she taught us this story about this young man named Emmett Till. And Emmett Till was from Chicago, and in the '50s, I believe it was 1955, uh, he went to visit his family down in Mississippi and went to the corner store with his cousins and was accused of, um, whistling at a white woman. And her husband eventually found where Emmett Till lived when he was staying with his aunt for the summer, and they, they grabbed him out of the house, and they ended up, um, beating him to death and threw him in a river. The reason why I bring this story up is his mother chose to show... have a open casket funeral, and his head was bigger than I can describe. And the way they had beat him for whistling at a white woman, what, what, what he was accused of, it always hit me in a place where I felt almost, like, guilty. I felt pain. I felt like I owe Emmett Till, and that was really a real driving force in my life. Though I never met Emmett Till in my life, his spirit was, like, something that I felt like I had to live for, and for those people who had been like him, who had lost their lives for no reason, but specifically Emmett Till. Now, that was one of the driving forces for me as a kid, even though I didn't know what I wanted to be, and, um, I, I just want to say that that, that meant a lot to me.
- JSJay Shetty
It's incredible. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Go for it.It's,
- 6:11 – 6:44
Jay On His Childhood & Upbringing
- JSJay Shetty
it's incredible to me how people we've never met and people we've never seen, how their stories can transform our lives. For me, when I was growing up, I was reading everything from David Beckham-
- COCommon
Yes
- JSJay Shetty
... and Dwayne The Rock Johnson when he was a wrestler, all the way through to Martin Luther King and Malcolm X.
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
And I was really lucky that my dad would give me biographies and autobiographies of these people, and it was because of him handing them to me that I got so inspired by people who'd lived these service-based lives.
- 6:44 – 9:01
Pain As A Catalyst for Creativity
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
But I wanted to ask you, when you read that story, when you heard about that story, how did you not get bitter or negative but became hopeful about wanting to represent and live a good life? Because hearing about those kind of pains and struggles can also make you act different. But for you, it pushed you to want to do something positive with your life.
- COCommon
The killing of Emmett Till was really the catalyst many believe for the civil rights movement. And how that affected me was, man, I felt like this beautiful young man didn't have, like, that evil energy to him, that dark energy to him, and I felt that I wanted to be a reflection of that. I strive to approach life in ways where when I would go through something, I would figure a way out by figuring out the positive, the, the lesson in it. And I didn't have that type of, like, information as a kid or, like, I didn't have it, like, really developed, but I knew that as a kid that I didn't wanna be putting negative energy out there, even when I was dealing with difficult moments. That didn't mean I didn't feel those difficult moments or I didn't have the anger, but I couldn't stay there. And I knew when I saw what happened with, with Emmett Till, yes, of course I did feel some anger and like, why did that happen to him? But I knew I had to make it into a positive and, and I wanted my life to feel positive and I wanted others' lives to feel positive. So that's what I used it for. And eventually in certain aspects of my life, I've been able to translate that, you know, and that's what part of the practice is that, of what we do. Like, I'm so grateful that... I know you can rhyme too. I know you can rhyme.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
[laughs] I, I, I know you can rhyme, but I'm so grateful at how you are using your words and your gifts and your spirit and your heart. It's, it's amazing how the things that we do to build, to get to... You would never know that your love for writing would, like, lead you to this place. And I would never know that, like, the things that I experienced, whether it was with Emmett Till or on a positive note,
- 9:01 – 10:11
Proximity To Greatness Is A Motivation
- COCommon
some people don't know this, um, I was a ball boy for the Chicago Bulls, right? [audience cheering] Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Wow.
- COCommon
I was a ball boy.
- JSJay Shetty
I didn't know that. [laughs]
- COCommon
So, so I was there when Michael Jordan first came into the league. In fact, I used to have some Jordans. I used to get gym shoes or sneakers, as people say when in Chicago we say gym shoes. So-
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
... so, um, I used to get gym shoes from a lot of players and at the time I would give them to my teachers, I would sell them, but I had some Jordans that I gave to my father that he signed. My father would, God bless his soul, he would wear them to my c- c- concerts-
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
... and I'd be like, "Dad, do not wear these shoes, man."
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
"These, these shoes is worth too much."
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
That being said, I didn't know... You know, it's amazing how, as you said sometimes, while I did get to be around Michael Jordan, I didn't know him well, but I got to see that. It's amazing how witnessing that greatness affected me in a positive way too. So it was some, some heavy things that affected me and some beautiful things that affected me.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah. And it's your, it's your power that you were able to notice both-
- COCommon
Yes
- JSJay Shetty
... and convert them and transfer them into building a positive life. And
- 10:11 – 13:49
Living Our Dreams To The Fullest
- JSJay Shetty
we were talking about dreams earlier, and I know a lot of this audience got dreams, right?
- COCommon
Yes. Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
This audience has dreams. And often I find... Yeah. Give it up for your dreams. You gotta-
- SPSpeaker
[clapping]
- JSJay Shetty
I know there's dreams. I know there's dreams. And sometimes it can feel like, you know, you're holding that dream back, you're not living it fully, you're hiding it, you're kind of embarrassed about it, maybe you're guilty about it, maybe you're, maybe you don't believe in it in yourself. You said one of your early dreams, you were telling me backstage and even now you were mentioning, was actually to be a basketball player.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
How, how serious were you about that dream compared to what then became music, what then became acting? Like, how serious was that dream?
- COCommon
No, that dream was very serious. I mean, I, I was dedicating my time and energy, a lot of it, to just playing ball. Like, that was one of the most important things to me. And that, and my dream was the, the Magic Johnsons, the Isiah Thomases, the, the Michael Jordans, um, all these great players that I actually got to be, like I said, in the presence of, it was like it made it even that much more attainable to me. I worked on it, I worked on it, and I got pretty good. I mean, I c- I can't... You know, we, we all as, as... And when you're a hooper or whatever, you feel like, "Oh, I'm cold. I, I got game."
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- COCommon
But, but in all reality, I probably wasn't pro material, but [chuckles] it's beautiful how divine and how great God k- orchestrates things for you to be where you should be when you trust in that. I got injured in, in my sophomore year, um, and I was out for, like, months, and those months of me not being able to play ball led me to wanting to write more. Like, I was already writing, but it was like, "Okay, I can't hoop right now, so I'mma write." And when I came back to the team, I wasn't getting any playing time, so I was like, "Well, I'mma go be a rapper then, man." [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- COCommon
And it just, you know, it kinda guided me to where I should be. Um, so my first dream was to hoop and I kinda got to-Live out that dream in a movie called Just Right, where I play the NBA player [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- SPSpeaker
[cheers]
- COCommon
You know, I was like, wow, this is amazing because it, it was a fulfillment of a dream as an actor. It was my first leading role, but it also was like, I'm actually getting to play like I'm a NBA player.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- COCommon
I was playing against Dwyane Wade and Dwight Howard at the time, and I- it was, it was an amazing experience, and it's, and it's something how... We talked about this, how, how, you know, you, you have a dream, and that dream can evolve, and it can become you find a new dream, and, and that dream can evolve. And I think, you know, I'm really keen on dreams because... And I really try to, try to like sh- inspire young people to, to have a dream and even whatever age we are. But really I want young people to get that early because that was one of the most important things for me growing up that led me to say, "Hey, I'm not going to go too far over to this craziness." Like, we in Chicago, you're gonna get into some craziness, right?
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- COCommon
You gonna, you gonna be around it. You gonna, you, you gonna experience something. You might participate in it. But because I had a dream, I would only participate but so much.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- COCommon
I had a boundary. I had a boundary. And that truly was my guiding light. Like, you know what? I wanna be something. I wanna do something. And even as those things began to evolve, it still became a boundary for me to be like, "All right. Y'all doing too much. I can't do that over there."
- 13:49 – 16:46
How to Trust God's Plan
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs] The, the thing I love about that, and I want us to take away from this, is sometimes your first dream doesn't work out. And I think for a lot of us, when our first dream doesn't work out, we think it's dream over.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Like game over. It's... That's it.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Now we can't live any part of our dream. And you know, I was saying my first dream, real dream was to become a monk. That's what I thought I was gonna do for the rest of my life.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And I did it for three years, and when it ended, I felt like I'd failed. Like, I felt like it was over, and I felt, how am I ever gonna spread what I've learned, and how am I ever gonna live a life that's dedicated to spirituality? Like, will that ever happen again? And it's incredible the plan, as you've been saying, that God has for you, and I was sharing this earlier with a couple of people. I was saying that God's imagination is far better than my imagination.
- COCommon
Yes.
- SPSpeaker
Whoo. [cheers]
- JSJay Shetty
Right? But-
- COCommon
Yes. There's a scripture in the Bible that says, "His thoughts are greater than your thoughts." You know, that's, that's very important for us to, to understand because sometimes in that dream, you like, "I want it, I want it, I want it," g- this... I mean, 'cause I have that... I still have it to this day. "I want this role. I want this role." And it doesn't happen. And now I've grown to understand that God's dreams and his thoughts are greater than my thoughts. So for whatever reason it is I'm not supposed to be in that particular film, I'm not supposed to be with that particular relationship, I'm not supposed to have that particular job, I'm not supposed to have that house that I really knew I wanted, uh, it's hard to grab onto it at times, but the more and more, you know, we practice it and, and speak it and know it and trust in our heavenly Father, in the creator of the heavens and Earth, and know that that plan is, is a master plan and all we have to do is listen and be in tune and get the lessons from it too, life becomes more beautiful. And I can look at those moments where I haven't gotten a role, and that, that doesn't mean that I don't feel like, "Damn, man, I really wanted to be working. I was excited about this script. I want it." I'm, I'm not gonna fake it, act like I didn't. But I can say, "Okay, Creator, I know you got something greater for me, something out there, and I'm going to do whatever I need to do to be present and also be obedient and surrender to what the higher plan is." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah. I, I, I saw something the other day that really resonated with me. My, my friend sent it to me, and it said something like, "When things don't go your way, it's God and the universe saying, 'Not now. Not this. I've got something better.'"
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
Right?
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
And it's that understanding of just being able to have that trust in the moment.
- 16:46 – 22:19
Trust That There’s a Bigger Plan
- JSJay Shetty
I wanna ask you that. How have you learned to build that trust in the moment? Like you said, we're both human.
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
We're not perfect. You feel that pain. I feel that. I wanna achieve things. I'm trying to build things. I'm trying to create things. And I'm the same. I feel pain. I'm not gonna sit here and lie-
- COCommon
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... and say-
- COCommon
Yes. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
... "Oh, I just trust everything-
- COCommon
Yeah, yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... and, you know, I'm beyond that." No, that's not true. Like, I feel upset. You're like, "Oh, gosh, I worked so hard for this. I put in so much effort. We did everything. What happened?" When you've done it enough times, you get a better relationship, but how have you learned in the moment to deal with that emotion and to learn how to trust?
- COCommon
It's been a process and, and as I said, like, you know, it's a practice. I was thinking earlier today about how we always talk about bad habits, but I started thinking about good habits. For me, one of my good habits was, has been to use, um, the scriptures that I, that I read and, and s- and stay consistent and diligent i- in my prayers and my meditations, staying consistent with the way I love myself and treat myself, and that kinda helps me build the armor and the, and the strength to be like when I have some of the most difficult pains. One of my greatest lessons and times that I've grown as a human being has been in one of the greatest pains I had, and that was a, a breakup, a heartbreak, where I was, like, broken. And I hadn't been broken like that. I had lost people in my life and-That was definitely devastating. But it was something about a heartbreak where the person was obviously you hear they still alive. This was the first love that I had as an adult, and I knew God had ordained it. But at s- at a certain point, it became not healthy, and when we were parting, it was hard. It was really hard. And it wasn't like I made the decision. [chuckles] I got broke up with, you know? And it was like, whew, this is hard. And at times I wasn't, wasn't eating, like, consistently. I was sitting in this hotel room for weeks just trying to find a peace, calling my aunt, talking to different people about it. It was weighing on me. And I remember just starting to read certain books like The Mastery of Love and, and Return to Love and these... A Lot of love books, y'all. [laughing]
- JSJay Shetty
[laughing]
- COCommon
And, uh, and, uh, but each time and each thing I read, I would get something out of it. Not even... I wouldn't even have to read the whole book, but I would get something out of it. And I started thinking and practicing some of the things that I was reading. As much as I was still trying to hold on and Go- and be like, "Yo, God, I know you said this was, this is the relationship. I thought this was the relationship." Well, I learned some lessons in that. One of the lessons was that I was willing to dim my light for others. And in that relationship, I was dimming my light. It wasn't... It's not that person's fault. I take responsibility for that, and I was dimming my light. But I was doing that not only in that relationship. I would do it when I would get around other artists that were more known than me, people that were, like, more celebrated than me. I would just dim my light for whatever. Somebody might not even... It might not even be about popularity, money or anything. I would dim my light if someone else just had something that I felt was greater than me. Well, I started to learn to love myself more, and that st- became a practice, and it became saying beautiful things to myself and repeating those scriptures and, and, like, starting to do things for myself that, like, fed into who I am and the things that I love. And Jay, about being present, that, that really taught me to be present because at a certain point I had to realize, yeah, that was something that a relationship that was in divine order for me. And we had gotten the lessons out of that relationship. And I got the pain that would, that would send me to a whole new height and would turn me into a light that I never knew I had. And that's when it was done at that point. But it's hard sometimes to understand that it's done. But once you realize that God ordained the relationship and he also ordained the progress from it and, and the moving forward from it, then I was able to move forward and be more present in my life and take that understanding of, man, I can believe in myself. I grew up in a, in a environment where my mother is very strong and, and, like, wise woman. Almost everyone I was around, you couldn't really, like, be too confident-
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
... or my mother would let you know, "Oh, you think you cocky" or "You think you doing this."
- JSJay Shetty
[laughing]
- COCommon
"You think you doing this." Uh, but it's... You gotta find a balance in that.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm.
- COCommon
And I didn't have the balance. I would always dim my light.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- COCommon
And, and eventually I was like, "I have to declare and claim and know within myself and speak towards my greatness, towards w- the things that I envision for myself and the things that I know I am. I have to say it, I have to believe it, and I have to not be afraid to wear my greatness in front of anyone." Yeah, I had to learn that.
- JSJay Shetty
[applauding]
- 22:19 – 30:15
Transitioning Between Careers
- JSJay Shetty
This is gonna be a surprise for everyone. I wanted to check if there was a, a poet, a rapper, a spoken word artist in the audience that wanted 60 seconds to share with the audience and with Common their skills.
- COCommon
Oh, ooh. I remember getting the music. I was going to my father's memorial. I was overwhelmed. I ended up writing that song, and that song became the song that we ended up winning a, a Golden Globe, winning a Grammy, and winning an Oscar award for.
- JSJay Shetty
You either grow together or you grow apart-
- COCommon
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... but both are growing.
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
And you often miss that when you feel like, "Oh, well, if we stayed together, then it worked. Then it was good for me."
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
"But if it ended, it wasn't good for me." As, as I was listening to you, I was thinking about something that I always try and remind myself, especially when it comes to people going through breakups, is that you either grow together or you grow apart-
- COCommon
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... but both are growing.
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
Right?
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
We think if we grow together, we're growing.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
But you also say you grow apart.
- COCommon
Yes. Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
But there's still growth-
- COCommon
Still growth
- JSJay Shetty
... in that journey.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And you often miss that when you feel like, "Oh, well, if we stayed together, then it worked. Then it was good for me."
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
"But if it ended, it wasn't good for me."
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And, and I wanted to ask you about, you know, these themes. I just... I don't want to take it for granted the themes you're talking about. You're talking about heartbreak. You're known to talk, talk about therapy. You're talking about the trauma you've been through. You know, we have your beautiful book here, And Then We Rise: A Guide to Loving and Taking Care of Self. These are not themes that you... [applauding] Right. Give it up. Yeah. These are not themes... These are not themes that hip-hop's known for, to have you sitting here, and you're talking about this balance of your mom and being too cocky. It's like, yeah, like, hip-hop has that bravado, that-
- COCommon
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... you know, that, uh, feeling of it's not really about humility. It's more about ego and-
- COCommon
Yeah
- 30:15 – 36:18
Attracting & Building New Friendships
- JSJay Shetty
has your back.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And having someone that if you can do that with them, that means you're closer to them.
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
So when we first moved to the States or maybe more LA, when me and my wife would banter with each other, 'cause she's from Britain too-
- COCommon
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... everyone just think we're like, we're gonna break up or something.
- COCommon
[laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
'Cause we can like really lay into each other.
- COCommon
Yeah. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
But, but that's part of our love language 'cause the more I can do that with you, the deeper we know each other.
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
'Cause as we grow up-You lose some friends that you grew up with. Maybe people move cities, they get married to someone else, they move into a different part of the world. Maybe you've been here your whole life, you had the same friends, but you've kind of outgrown them now.
- COCommon
Right.
- JSJay Shetty
How do you as an adult continue to build new friendships that look like your future and not like your past?
- COCommon
That's beautiful. You said people was like, "Hmm. What, what are you gonna say about that?" [laughs]
- SPSpeaker
[laughing]
- COCommon
Nah, um, man, you know, at a certain point, like once I started to like, okay, understand who I am and, and I'm still learning, you know, like we ... Hopefully we always will learn till we leave this planet on a physical level. So I'm still learning, but I do know a lot of things about me, and I know myself. And I think one of the things that has helped me to understand about attracting new friends and who belongs in, in this atmosphere is people's energy, being discerning about people's intentions, making sure that any f- friendships, relationships, even moments, you want to be able to give and you want to be able to receive, too. You start by giving. You know, most of the time, I'm ... If I see somebody, I'ma greet them. "How you doing?" And hopefully they'll greet back. Boom. Love. And it's like, it might just be that moment or it may be more than that, but the point is, you understand w- what energy you want in your life and who deserves to be in your life, and you also have to be accountable for being a good friend, partner, homie in their lives. And like, one of my closest friends is backstage with me. Even though we talk about, tell the same stories over and over again, like, you know, I'll be like, "Damn, we still..."
- SPSpeaker
[laughing]
- COCommon
But we still have [laughs] ... We still tell them same jokes about each other, but we also share scriptures. We also sh- share motivation. He'll send me things that motivate. We also talk about life and just being in pain, going through these things. And for me, that's a friendship that evolves. Some people, when you said... You, you said a very good point. Sometimes you outgrow other people, but a, a great, beautiful friendship or relationship, you all grow as individuals, and even if you're in a- not at the same place at the same time always, you might get there. And I think for me, just understanding when I'm around people, like how do I feel around this person? And h- how, how did this person make me feel? And hopefully I'm making them feel great. Then that's the type of energy I want to be around, and is this something that's gonna be consistent? We, we doing this quick movie together and we, we can hang out at this time, but this is not gonna go further than that as a friendship. That happens sometimes. But that's okay. That person is great for your life at that moment, and you all can give each other equal yolk. But ultimately, it's about, to me, just being around energy that you know is there to better you. Iron sharpens iron, and you, you bring that into your life.
- JSJay Shetty
Well said, well said. [clapping] I feel like when I'm vibrating at my highest energy, it's really clear whether someone wants to match it or not.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Whereas if I walk into a space and I go at my lowest frequency, I don't actually know where someone stands.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
So it's almost like being at your highest vibration or frequency actually allows you to see what energy someone's at and whether they're willing to match and you're gonna match them.
- COCommon
Is that new friends? 'Cause I don't have a whole lot of new friends, to be honest. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
You know? But I do have new people in my life that I work with, that I love, that I'll be there for. But I'm like, you know, friends, not just people you're like, "I'm cool with them."
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah, yeah.
- COCommon
I'm talking about friends.
- 36:18 – 40:40
Everyday Routine For Body & Mind Care
- JSJay Shetty
friend than feel like I spoke to 30 people about small talk.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And again, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just who I am. So-
- COCommon
Yeah. I love some of the things you just said because I love great conversations. I feel like that's one of the ways I learn so much about myself is through conversating with people who, who just have some emotional insight, intelligence. That's one of my favorite things, man. No matter where I am, I ... And-You know, my friends be like, "Boy, you talk a lot." You know, I am long.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
But, but, but I do l-love those conversations. And another thing you mentioned that, that I have to say has been one of the most powerful aspects about helping me in my life is to be clear. Like, taking care of myself when it comes to, like, the foods I eat. Like having, um, like I said, my own meditation and prayer.
- JSJay Shetty
What does that look like? Walk us through some of those habits, 'cause I feel like this group loves learning about-
- COCommon
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... habits and practices and tools and tactics. What are, what are some of yours that you commit to?
- COCommon
Wake up in the morning thanking God for the day. Thanking God just for the day, for the breath of life. [audience applauding] And as Jay said, this is a spiritual thing. I'm not like... When I talk about God, I, I'm talking about the creator of the heavens and Earth that exists in all women, man, that exists in all people on the planet. It's not a religious thing. It's, this is about the spirit that created all of us and that exists in all of us. So just communing with God is the first thing. And then I get into, it's certain scriptures that I read that reinforce who I am and my relationship with the Creator. And then I get into, um, my prayer, and then I'll get into my meditation. People ask me like, "Do you do this type of meditation, this type?" My meditation is a South Side meditation. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
I came, I just came up with... I pulled from e-everything that I had experienced and was like, "This works for me." It's not gonna be this twenty-minute meditation. Might be a minute or two, but I'ma get it in and, and it works.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
And it works for me. But seriously, it j- it's, it's that meditation. And then I go to this other book that I have that has these mantras a-and scriptures to 'em. At that point, you know, like I'm prepared for the day and going into that day knowing that, man, this is gonna be a beautiful day. 'Cause we all... Sometimes I wake up like, ah, something feel funny this, like, soon as I wake up. But me getting into gratitude and just saying thank you for the day and thank you for the breath of life starts to shift that funny feeling. And then like [audience applauding] me starting to, starting to, to say the things that I know I'm created for and the purpose that I'm here for, it starts to shift and my day becomes greater just from there. And even if some incidents happen, my perspective on the day is, is not down because I've done those things. Now, the diet and food side, I get into my, I got my supplements that I take and, you know, take those in the morning, and then I try to get a workout in. Like I said, sometimes you don't have a hour to do a workout. If you can get whatever time, and it's just movement. What I noticed is when I move around, whether it's a walk... I used to think, I was like, man, those old people be walking, man. You know? [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
You know? But now I'm taking walks and I'm walking in London, walking in the parks, and I'm like, am I that age that I'm walking? [audience laughing] But, but a walk is a beautiful thing and I realize just the movement of the body is good for the mind and the soul. So this is all part of my, like, wholeness. When I t- what I talk about in the book, And Then We Rise, is, is that wholeness of like... 'Cause I had certain aspects, like, I was always pretty much a spiritual guy, like this and learning my spirituality, you know, reading from the Bible at one point, reading into the Quran and reading different things to just know God for myself. But then I needed other aspects, and I started to, to figure out that the diet made me see clearer. Not only did I see clearer, like I was rapping clearer,
- 40:40 – 43:21
A Poem From the Audience
- COCommon
like my voice sounded clearer.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
Like, for real. Like for not having certain foods in my body and taking care. And, and my energy, I was waking up with energy instead, like, so I felt the difference, and that was all the research I needed to do. I didn't need to read nothing to know that like, oh, I feel better doing these things.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm.
- COCommon
So all those things are things that I put into practice and, you know, I pick up new things. Like just listening to you, I'm like, wait, I'ma start [audience member sneezes] figuring out this exposure. Bless you. I'ma, I'ma figure out this exposure thing-
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
... like, a-a-and see what I can do. 'Cause I'm always looking to learn and grow.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah. I love that. Talking about exposure therapy, I wanted this event to be special, and this is gonna be a surprise for everyone. I wanted to give someone in the room... We've been talking about dreams. We've been talking about rising above judgment. We've been talking about taking your opportunity. I wanted to check, and there's no pressure, but I wanted to check if there was a, a poet, a rapper, a spoken word artist in the audience that wanted sixty seconds to share with the audience and with Common their skills.
- COCommon
Oh. Ooh.
- JSJay Shetty
I wanna give you a moment, and I don't want you to steal a moment from someone else, so this isn't messing around. It's, it's someone who truly has... I see the yellow shirt. [audience cheering] I see one up there. I love that hustle.
- COCommon
[laughs] They hustling. They hustling.
- JSJay Shetty
That hustle, I love it. What's his name?
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Oh, you don't know. Oh, wow. Okay. [audience laughing] That's amazing. That's great. You know, I really feel like there's moments like this. We've got you in the seat-
- COCommon
Yeah. Yes
- JSJay Shetty
... uh, to give someone a moment, to give someone an opportunity, to put someone out there, to put someone on. I chose the hardest person to get downstairs. Now he's-
- COCommon
Uh-huh
- JSJay Shetty
... lost trying to find his way. While we're waiting for him, I wanna, want... [audience cheering] Oh, here we go. [audience cheering] You wanna come through? You wanna say hello before?
- COCommon
Respect, my brother. Love.
- JSJay Shetty
Blessings.
- COCommon
Bless you. Bless you. Bless you. Thank you, love. Love.Thank you
- JSJay Shetty
All right. So your name is?
- SPSpeaker
Daniel
- JSJay Shetty
Daniel, where are you from?
- SPSpeaker
I'm from Chicago.
- JSJay Shetty
From Chicago? [cheering]
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
I love it.
- SPSpeaker
I'm from here.
- JSJay Shetty
You're a rapper, spoken word artist, poet.
- 43:21 – 48:49
My New Favourite Colour
- JSJay Shetty
so you take a breath just to catch your breath. But that was the point of tonight. I wanna make it known that you can do it. It's not a... You know, I think we often feel like we have to wait for our moment, we gotta work for it, g- but we wanna give it to people right here. So I wanna give you 60 seconds to share with us the words, the work, whatever you wanna read to us. Common will give us a 0 out of 10 rating. No.
- COCommon
[laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs] Um. Oh, my God, nervous.
- SPSpeaker
Are you good, Danny? You ready? You got it. [cheering]
- COCommon
Yeah, you got it, bro. You got it, bro. You got it. You got it.
- SPSpeaker
Um, okay, so I'm, I'm gonna give you something that's relatively new, and it's about the lady that pushed me to come up here. [cheering] She's, she's up there. [laughs] Uh, real quick, 'cause I don't wanna waste any of your time.
- JSJay Shetty
You're not wasting anyone's time.
- SPSpeaker
God, I'm nervous. Why am I up here? Um- Let's be brave with all the fears.
- JSJay Shetty
Yes.
- COCommon
Yeah. [clapping]
- SPSpeaker
It's called My New Favorite Color. If I asked any of you what's your favorite color, it would come without a second guess. You might even attribute some colors to different moods. Green might be the envy and the mean girl whose burn book would burn looks through sky blue retinas like our heavenly ceiling. Reeling with the beauty of God's creations, but not a single star burns brighter than the patron my eyes behold. After all, they say that's where her beauty lies, so my answer is red. That's my favorite color. It's something about the way it massages her cheeks before they form that rose that reminds me of Aretha's declaration. A dedication to the strongest flower in concrete jungles never meant to grow, but defying all odds. God's peculiar creation. Sending sensations where you hear, see, and touch vibrations. I love to make her blush just to see a smile from those red lips. I'd re-educate the inner child in me that was deceived to believe that synesthesia couldn't be achieved, but who knew the color red could taste so sweet? Scent like strawberries harvested solely by God's worthy, I'll happily trick for this treat. And I'm gonna leave it there, 'cause I am dying. [laughs]
- COCommon
Yo. Hey. Yo, Jay. Jay. [cheering] Jay. Let me-- I'ma rhyme, I'ma rhyme. Yo, that was, that was dope, bro. Real dope. Yo, I know it's kinda hard to handle, but everybody give it up for Daniel. [cheering] Yo, I say it like this, I say it like this, in God we trust. I see his shirt and I tell MCs they not like us. What can you do? Yo, you know the whole outcome. I see Martin and of course I see Malcolm. We know right now I keep my mind heavy. I keep it all ready when I'm with Jay Shetty.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
It's like this, Common Sense. Yo, I guess you know me. I gotta say rest in peace to that brother Kobe. This is how it is.
- JSJay Shetty
Oh, wow.
- COCommon
Yo, we at your service. We right here in Chicago and this is about purpose. It's on purpose. Yo, I'm telling you, these words is my man Jay. Yo, I told you he's a wordsmith. Common Sense, I'm coming. I got my brother from London. This is how it be, I got 100,000 running. I can let you know my mind's like a encyclopedia. When I come to the Chicago Theater, letting you know it's time for me to climb. We talk about the spirituality, it's divine. And I'm coming straight for Chi off the head. My man Daniel said his favorite color is red. [cheering] Yo, I read through books till this how we look. We got me understand, Common Sense, I never been shook. I been hanging in places where we hang outside. I'm talking about the West and of course the South Side. [cheering] And that's how it be when I known to go off. And shout out to my people that's even from the North. Common Sense, it's like this, yo. I guess I'm living it. I was cruising up and down the street called Michigan Avenue, grabbing new things that I need to do. Common Sense, yo, I told you I believe in you and believe in me as I'm receiving these things. Earlier we was talking, Jay, about dreams, and that's how it be. The style'll be free. I just gotta say respect to G-O-D.
- JSJay Shetty
Oh! [cheering] Give it up for Daniel, everyone.
- COCommon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
That was, that was a surprise for me.
- COCommon
[laughs] No, that's... Look, look.
- JSJay Shetty
Oh, wow.
- COCommon
Look.
- JSJay Shetty
Wow.
- COCommon
Yeah, yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Wow.
- COCommon
Just having a little fun.
- JSJay Shetty
Wow.
- COCommon
Having a little fun, yo. Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
That was... I was not expecting that.
- COCommon
Man, I kinda... I love, I love rapping, man. I lo- I love MCing. [cheering] And, and once, once we had the music a little bit and Daniel did his thing, I'm like, "I'm at home."
- 48:49 – 53:33
Pushing Through Fear As A Motivator
- JSJay Shetty
their moment, and when those two things come together, because I feel like I spent my whole life waiting for someone to give me a shot.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And often we can feel that way. We're just waiting for someone to open a door or-
- COCommon
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... just let us in or whatever it may be. And, you know... [audience cheering] Oh, there we go. [laughs]
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
He just made it upstairs. [laughs] [audience applauding] And it's just beautiful when you put yourself out there like that, and I hope that, you know, one of the things I like to do differently in these evenings is have moments like that, because when you see someone who's sitting in the same place as you are but takes their moment, I hope it's a reminder to you tomorrow when you're at the office, when you're talking to someone, when you're with your family, and you've just been avoiding that moment, I hope it gives you the courage and the strength to go, "Daniel did that," you know? [audience applauding]
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Onstage in front of two thousand people with Common and-
- COCommon
Yo, yo, Jay, I gotta say, like, you made me think about, like, it was a point when I, I had to learn to take that moment, and this happened to me. This is further into my career. I'm... This is basically, I was in a movie called Selma, right? And, and I was an actor-
- JSJay Shetty
Love that movie
- COCommon
... in Selma, yeah. [audience cheering] And, um, directed by the great Ava DuVernay, and I mean, it's incredible actors in there and actresses. But anyway, it was about the people of the civil rights movement. And we finished the movie, and the movie had really moved my spirit because we were living in the shoes and in the skin of the people of the civil rights m- movement. So we got to meet Ambassador Andrew Young and, and John Lewis, the late great John Lewis, and it affected my life. I remember Ambassador Andrew Young at our first meeting said, "What are you willing to die for? Live for that." He said, "We were willing to die for freedom and justice and equality, so we live for it every day." [audience applauding] Right? Well, that, all that affected me. We finished the movie, and I'm asking everybody that's a part of it, "What are y'all gonna do for the, like, songs? Like, what's gon- what's g- y'all got any music in mind?" They was like, "Yeah, we got something in mind, but it's not you," right? [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
So I usually wouldn't seize the moment or take that moment and, like, I would be shy about that moment. That's what I was talking about dimming my light at times. I was on the phone talking to my manager saying, "Well, what are they doing with the song for, for Selma?" And he was like, "Man, they said they w- they got some people they wanna use, but they, they haven't locked it in." It hit me like, it was like the Creator speaking to me. God was speaking to me. I literally said, "I'm gonna call you back." The thought came to me like, "I'm gonna call John Legend and see if he would be open to, like, working with me on a song for this." I hang up the phone with my manager and call John. John is in London, and I tell him, "Hey, man, I'm part of this movie, Selma. It's incredible. Man, like, it's about Dr. King and the women and men of the civil rights movement. Let's do a song. Now, they don't want a song from us, so we submitting it. But will you do this song?" [audience laughing] He said, "I got you, brother." I usually wouldn't ask, like, my friends, and, and I, and I have worked with John before, but I wasn't the type to just ask for it, but something I listened to what God said, "Look, call John." I did it. And John said, "I'm gonna be over here for a few months on this tour, but I will go in the studio on Wednesday." I hung up the phone. I text him three titles. The last title I text him was Glory. He said he saw that, that, that name [audience applauding] Glory, and it sparked his thoughts, and he started coming with the melody, and he started, you know, coming up with the words for the hook. "One day when the glory..." Well, I can't sing it, y'all. I'll mess it up, but-
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- COCommon
... but, you know, he did that, sent it back to me. After that Wednesday, I remember getting the music. I was going to my father's memorial. I heard that music. I was overwhelmed. I ended up writing that song, and that song became the song that we ended up winning a, a Golden Globe, winning a Grammy, and winning an Oscar award for. [audience applauding] And I'm bringing that up because it was that moment, it was, um, that one moment
- 53:33 – 55:26
Letting Go and Letting God
- COCommon
where I decided to listen and not be afraid and just ask and seize the moment, and it happened. [audience applauding] Yeah, that was, that was-
- JSJay Shetty
I'm so glad you shared that story.
- COCommon
Yeah. Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
I'm so glad you shared that story because I think, you know, that was later in your career-
- COCommon
Yes
- JSJay Shetty
... and you still have that doubt-
- COCommon
Still
- JSJay Shetty
... where you have to listen in.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And I think I love hearing that because I think we all think one day we're gonna get to a place from which we don't have to listen anymore-
- COCommon
Right
- JSJay Shetty
... to God, to that inner voice, to that direction. But the truth is, it's always the case. You always have to go inward-
- COCommon
Yes
- JSJay Shetty
... to find that outward direction. It's not gonna happen by constantly looking around at where do I wanna be and where do I wanna go, and you've got to constantly look inside and hear the ask, hear the calling-
- COCommon
Yes
- JSJay Shetty
... hear that question.
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
Right? Because we're looking for the answer that you don't hear the ask.
- COCommon
Yes, man.
- JSJay Shetty
You know what I mean?
- COCommon
Yes, man. Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
It's a really interesting thing, like God's trying to ask you to do something. You're like, "God, tell me the answer."
- COCommon
Right. Tell me the answer. And we-
- JSJay Shetty
And God's like, "No, no, no. I want you to do this." [laughs]
- COCommon
Right. I want you to do this, and you have to be open to the, to the experience and the journey too. It's a beautiful thing, but it's a thing whereIt doesn't stop. Like, I mean, last week I was like, "Man, I want this. I want this." It didn't happen for me, and I had to, like, really come to grips and do exactly what I told you all. I, I work on, I work on, like, just still staying in gratitude, still knowing what's for me is, is there for me, and really being present and okay. I, I prayed for that, and I said, "Man, if it's in your will," and I used my scriptures to... And that didn't happen for me, then I have to understand that I'm supposed to be here wherever you have me, and I'm gonna be trusting in that and be present in that. And that's one of the things that I just...
- 55:26 – 1:03:54
Common On Final Five
- COCommon
It doesn't stop. Like, I was later in my career when I did that with John, when I said, "Hey," you know, I called him, but it's still s- moments where I'm like, "Should I say this to this person? Should I not?" But I'm more leaning towards because I've, I've worked on it to, to say, I'm gonna speak up for the things that I want or just say my truth. Like, if it's something that doesn't work for me, I, I know how to speak up on that too, so. [audience applauding]
- JSJay Shetty
I love that. I wanna take the last few moments to end every "On Purpose" interview, as we always do, with the Final Five.
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
These questions have to be answered with one word to one sentence maximum.
- COCommon
Okay. [laughing]
- JSJay Shetty
So Common, these are your final-
- COCommon
That, that's a real challenge. This is a real challenge for me. [audience laughing]
- JSJay Shetty
This is a real challenge. These are your Final Five. Question number one, which we ask to every guest who's ever been on the show, what is the best advice you've ever heard or received?
- COCommon
To love others as you love yourself. Um, I think that's the best, yeah, the best that I've received.
- JSJay Shetty
I agree. Question num- oh, yeah, give it up. Absolutely. Go for it. This is awesome. [audience applauding] Uh, question... Usually, when I'm doing the Final Five with someone, like, I don't get this, so this is amazing.
- COCommon
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Like, you don't know what a gift you're giving me by being here right now, you know? When we're doing this in the studio, it's beautiful, but we should do every episode with you guys here. It's, uh-
- COCommon
Yeah. [audience cheering]
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah, you know? It's like-
- COCommon
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
Uh, question number two, what is the worst advice you've ever heard or received? [audience laughing]
- COCommon
Um, people say this, they say the same shit every day. I, I ask them, like, "How you doing?" And they say, "Man, same shit, new day." I don't subscribe to that mentality, so I looked at that as, like, bad advice, and I'm like, "Nah."
- JSJay Shetty
[laughing]
- COCommon
So it's gotta be something new happening today. Create something new. [audience laughing] So yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Create something new.
- COCommon
Yeah. Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, question number three, what was the hardest part about learning to love yourself and take care of yourself? Which is the tagline of the show.
- COCommon
The, the hardest part about learning to love myself and take care of myself is learning to love myself when I'm being rejected. That is, like, a real... [audience applauding] That's a... Because that is when it taps into the little Rashid and the things that I've been rejected or abandoned from before, um, as a kid. And when I'm rejected now... You told me to keep this answer short, but [laughing] -
- JSJay Shetty
It's a great answer. Carry on. It's a great answer. Carry on.
- COCommon
But, but when I'm rejected now, sometimes I'm, I can bring that little Rashid into the present and tho- and those feelings of being rejected and make this new rejection greater than what it really is. I'm not present in what is happening. So I think loving myself in those moments is been some of the toughest times, but I feel I'm worth it, so I, I, I strive for it. [audience applauding]
- JSJay Shetty
Love it.
- COCommon
It's great.
- JSJay Shetty
Question number four, how do you show yourself self-love every day?
- COCommon
The things that I do for self-love that I spoke about from every aspect, the prayer, meditation, foods, I make sure I'm diligent about it. And, like, if my call time is at five thirty, if they coming to get me to go to set at five thirty, I'm still gonna get up and make sure I have enough time to do those things because that's me loving myself. That's me giving the time to myself that I need. [audience applauding] And that's, that has nothing to do with nobody else. But that's me and the Creator, and I, and I think, you know, that's how I take time. And, and I also have boundaries now too, like, where sometimes if somebody is... I know is taking advantage of me, um, or just asking for too much and I'm not able or willing to give that, I know how to speak up for that. So that's another way that I've learned to love myself every day, [audience applauding] is speak up.
- JSJay Shetty
Beautiful.
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