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Jay Shetty PodcastMADONNA EXCLUSIVE: The Side That NOBODY Knows…
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At a glance
WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Madonna on spirituality, Kabbalah, and transforming pain into purpose daily
- Madonna shares that she’s not promoting a project but revealing how nearly three decades of Kabbalah study helped her stay grounded, sane, and purposeful amid fame, trauma, and public scrutiny.
- They frame spirituality as building an “internal life” through rituals like study, prayer, breath, and reflection—countering modern distraction, comparison, and approval-seeking.
- Madonna links her creativity and longevity to viewing herself as a “manager” of divine “light,” channeling art through consciousness rather than ego, and redefining manifestation as partnership with the Creator for the sake of sharing.
- The conversation tackles suffering, karma, and victim mentality through radical acceptance—treating painful experiences (custody battle, illness, betrayal) as lessons rather than punishment.
- Eitan Yardeni explains Kabbalah’s aim as understanding the “whys” of life and offers a practical four-step method to meet lack, fear, and negativity with certainty beyond logic, inner light, and service to others.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasSpirituality is an internal life, not a label or religion.
Madonna defines spirituality as making time to reflect, question intention, and develop consciousness—rather than chasing approval, money, or image as a proxy for worth.
Ritual creates the “third space” modern life has lost.
Regular study/prayer/meditation functions as a vantage point beyond work, home, and phone-based distraction, giving perspective and interrupting automatic reactions.
Creative power grows when you stop “owning” it.
Madonna attributes artistic flow and longevity to seeing talent as managed rather than possessed—ego and overcontrol shut down the channel; humility keeps it open.
Manifestation without consciousness becomes finite and fragile.
Their version of manifestation requires partnership with the divine and a motivation to share; self-centered goals may succeed temporarily but don’t produce lasting peace.
Radical acceptance shortens suffering even when outcomes are unknown.
Whether facing a custody battle or sepsis recovery, accepting “this is happening and I don’t know when it ends” reduces resistance—the layer that prolongs pain.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesI just, um, I wanna share something with, with people that has pretty much saved my life. That sounds dramatic, but it's true.
— Madonna
If you don't have a spiritual life, you're never gonna stop and ask any questions. You're just gonna plow through life.
— Madonna
I became conscious of the fact that I was and am, I am channeling light. That's what I'm doing. It, I don't own it. It's not mine. I'm a vessel for it.
— Madonna
The worst things that happen to you are the best things that happen to you.
— Madonna
It's a prison and it's poison to not be able to forgive and to live in a state of, like, holding a grudge or hating someone or wanting them to suffer.
— Madonna
SPEAKERS
Jay Shetty
hostHost of the On Purpose podcast, author, and former monk who interviews guests on purpose, wellbeing, and spirituality.
Eitan Yardeni
guestKabbalah teacher and spiritual mentor who discusses Kabbalah concepts and practices.
Eitan Yardeni
guestKabbalah teacher and spiritual mentor who explains practical tools for overcoming comparison and self-judgment.
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