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Jay Shetty Podcast

Tamsen Fadal: ''How to Lose Weight, Stop Brain Fog, and Take Back Control During Menopause!''

Have you noticed changes in your sleep? Do you sometimes feel more anxious than usual?

Tamsen FadalguestJay Shettyhost

Sep 1, 20251h 5mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Menopause silence: why it’s taboo despite affecting half the population
Tamsen Fadal opens by pointing out the huge gap between how common menopause is and how little it’s discussed at home, in school, or in clinics. Jay asks why the topic remains taboo, setting up the conversation around cultural discomfort and lack of support.
- •Menopause is widespread yet rarely discussed in everyday life
- •Women often feel betrayed by their bodies and unsure of their identity
- •Jay frames the episode as a learning conversation for men and women
- •The cost of silence shows up emotionally and socially, not just physically
Root causes: ageism, sexism, and medicine ‘saying goodbye’ after reproduction
Tamsen argues the taboo is driven by ageism and sexism—society and healthcare often treat women’s value as tied to reproductive years. She shares that even in a long journalism career she rarely said the word “menopause,” illustrating how deep the avoidance runs.
- •Ageism/sexism shape how midlife women are viewed
- •Cultural narrative: “best years are behind you”
- •Medical system mirrors societal dismissal
- •Media and workplaces have historically avoided the topic
Menopause timeline 101: perimenopause, menopause day, and post-menopause reality
Tamsen explains the core definitions: perimenopause is the years leading up to menopause, menopause is confirmed after 12 months without a period, and everything after is post-menopause. She emphasizes how long symptoms can affect women—potentially a third to half of life.
- •Perimenopause can last ~4–10 years with fluctuating symptoms
- •Menopause is defined as 12 months without a period (a single milestone day)
- •Symptoms may continue into post-menopause
- •Scale: by now, ~1B women globally are/will be in menopause
The symptom spectrum: brain fog, mood shifts, sleep, weight, pain—and identity loss
They detail how menopause symptoms extend far beyond hot flashes, with cognitive and emotional effects often being the most disruptive. Tamsen describes brain fog as frightening and career-impacting, and highlights the common experience of not recognizing yourself anymore.
- •Brain fog can impair speech, memory, and work performance
- •Mood swings/anxiety and sleep disruption are major quality-of-life issues
- •Physical changes include weight gain, joint pain, itchy skin, dryness, low libido
- •Emotional impact: women feel like a ‘shell’ and deeply misunderstood
Real-life fallout: work performance, relationships, and why midlife divorces spike
Jay asks about the broader ripple effects, and Tamsen describes how symptoms can threaten careers and strain relationships. She stresses the need to normalize conversations at work without penalizing women, and notes how libido and irritability changes can destabilize partnerships.
- •Workplace impact: focus, communication, confidence, and productivity can drop
- •Women may fear disclosing symptoms to managers or being stigmatized
- •Relationship stress: libido shifts and mood changes can be misinterpreted
- •Menopause awareness should be a shared social conversation, not women-only
Myths to retire: ‘best years are over’ and ‘you’re going crazy’
Tamsen addresses common misconceptions that keep women silent and unsupported. She reframes menopause as a new stage that can be empowering, and emphasizes that symptoms have a biological basis even if they look psychological from the outside.
- •Myth: midlife means decline—reality: post-menopause can be a strong chapter
- •Myth: symptoms mean you’re ‘crazy’—reality: hormonal shifts drive real changes
- •Menopause experiences vary widely between individuals
- •Validation matters: naming the transition reduces fear and shame
What’s happening biologically: estrogen/progesterone loss and brain effects that mimic disease
Tamsen explains hormonal changes and how estrogen receptors throughout the body—including the brain—make symptoms widespread. She shares how cognitive symptoms can feel like dementia and drive women to seek neurological testing out of fear.
- •Estrogen and progesterone fluctuations affect multiple systems
- •Cognitive symptoms can include word-finding trouble and memory lapses
- •Fear spiral: women worry about Alzheimer’s/dementia when uninformed
- •Perimenopause is often unpredictable, like a second hormonal ‘puberty’
Early warning signs and the perimenopause vs. menopause distinction
Tamsen outlines three common early indicators—irregular periods, sleep disruption, and mood changes—often dismissed as stress. She clarifies that perimenopause occurs while still cycling (and pregnancy is still possible), while menopause is confirmed after 12 months without a period.
- •Top early signs: irregular/heavy/missing periods; insomnia/3am wake-ups; anxiety/rage/depression
- •Doctors may default to ‘stress’ instead of screening for perimenopause
- •Perimenopause can begin in late 30s/early 40s for many
- •Perimenopause is still a fertile window; menopause ends cycling
Diagnosis gaps: 34+ symptoms, minimal physician training, and antidepressant ‘band-aids’
The conversation turns to systemic medical shortcomings: many doctors receive little menopause education, leading to high rates of untreated symptoms. Tamsen describes how women are often prescribed antidepressants without addressing the underlying hormonal transition, sharing her own experience.
- •Tamsen’s book lists 34 symptoms; the broader list keeps expanding
- •Many clinicians aren’t trained: some OBGYN programs give minimal instruction
- •A large share of women report symptoms left untreated
- •Common misstep: antidepressants prescribed without menopause/perimenopause discussion
Why ignoring symptoms matters: long-term risks (bones, heart, brain) and unequal experiences
Tamsen highlights that menopause isn’t only about discomfort—it’s tied to long-term health concerns like osteoporosis, cardiovascular risk, and Alzheimer’s prevalence in women. They also discuss research showing differences by ethnicity, including earlier and more intense symptoms for Black women.
- •Key risks to monitor: osteoporosis, heart disease, brain health/Alzheimer’s
- •Some studies suggest hot flashes may correlate with heart health markers
- •Ethnicity differences: Black women may experience earlier/stronger/longer symptoms
- •Global patterns differ (e.g., fewer hot flashes vs. more joint pain), raising research questions
Treatment roadmap: hormone therapy, the 2002 scare, and what HT includes
Tamsen lays out major options, especially menopausal hormone therapy, and explains why many women still fear it due to the 2002 Women’s Health Initiative headlines. She explains what hormone therapy typically includes and which symptoms it most effectively targets.
- •Three pillars: medical options, lifestyle shifts, and support/community
- •Hormone therapy can be highly effective for hot flashes and vaginal dryness
- •WHI 2002 headlines drove use from ~44% to ~4–5% and fear persists
- •HT components discussed: estrogen + progesterone; possible testosterone and vaginal estrogen
Lifestyle changes that move the needle: sleep first, strength training, protein, inflammation, stress
For women not using hormone therapy (the majority), Tamsen emphasizes foundational lifestyle shifts. She prioritizes sleep hygiene, then highlights nutrition (especially protein and fiber), strength training for bone protection, and practical stress management with self-compassion.
- •Sleep as the keystone: routines, magnesium, and progesterone’s role (for some)
- •Strength training rises in importance for bone health protection
- •Nutrition focus: protein, fiber, and reducing inflammation/bloating triggers
- •Stress management + ‘grace’ rather than perfectionism
Community and partner support: what men should know and how relationships can survive the shift
They distinguish friends from a true community of people going through the same transition, and Jay stresses that partners should be part of that support system. Tamsen gives men a practical role: awareness, curiosity, patience, and joining supportive habits rather than trying to “fix” everything.
- •Community reduces isolation; shared experience makes symptoms less frightening
- •Men can help by understanding timelines, symptoms, and asking supportive questions
- •Reframing stereotypes: menopause isn’t ‘hysterical hot flashes’—it’s whole-body change
- •Partners may notice changes first; awareness prevents misattribution and conflict
Sex, intimacy, and painful dryness: why libido can switch off—and how to talk about it
Tamsen describes how libido can fluctuate or disappear during perimenopause, sometimes paired with painful sex due to dryness. She explains how this can be misread as loss of attraction, creating silent relationship damage unless partners discuss it openly and explore treatments.
- •Libido can vary widely during perimenopause due to hormonal volatility
- •Painful sex and whole-body dryness are common but under-discussed
- •Men may misinterpret low desire as rejection or relationship breakdown
- •Treatment options include vaginal estrogen and testosterone (for some) plus communication
Preparing earlier: fertility overlap, birth control, baseline bone tests, and a better future
They discuss how perimenopause can overlap with fertility and postpartum-like symptoms, especially as women have children later. Tamsen explains when birth control may be used to regulate periods and recommends early preparation—strength training, sleep habits, and knowing bone density baselines.
- •Perimenopause can overlap with fertility; pregnancy is still possible
- •Symptoms can resemble postpartum changes, complicating identification
- •Birth control may regulate irregular periods; clinicians may later transition to HT
- •Preparation: sleep routines, strength training, protein, stress tools, and early bone density baseline
Why research and training lag—and Tamsen’s closing message: knowledge, purpose, ‘not too late’
Tamsen argues research gaps reflect cultural devaluing of midlife women and lack of mandatory training across medical specialties. She closes by emphasizing empowerment through education, advocating for better systems while encouraging women that it’s never too late to make helpful changes.
- •Women’s midlife health is underfunded; menopause is a tiny slice of women’s health research
- •Doctors often dismiss symptoms as aging or require ‘worse’ symptoms before treatment
- •Cross-specialty education is needed (cardiology, primary care, mental health, etc.)
- •Core takeaway: informed choices + support can restore quality of life; change is always possible

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