The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan Experience #1531 - Miley Cyrus

Joe Rogan and Miley Cyrus on miley Cyrus on pain, fame, drugs, and rebuilding herself publicly.

Miley CyrusguestJoe Roganhost
Sep 2, 20202h 6m
Vocal surgery, voice changes, and longevity as a performerSubstance use, sobriety, and realistic education about drugs and sexChild stardom, media narratives, and public scrutiny of relationshipsMental health, brain scans (SPECT), head injury, and addiction vulnerabilityDiet, veganism vs. pescetarianism, inflammation, and physical painRelationships, resilience, guilt, and being labeled a “cold” womanCreative control, gender double standards, and reclaiming her artistic image

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Miley Cyrus and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan Experience #1531 - Miley Cyrus explores miley Cyrus on pain, fame, drugs, and rebuilding herself publicly This long-form conversation between Joe Rogan and Miley Cyrus delves into her evolution from child star to self-aware adult artist. Miley explains how vocal surgery, touring abuse, substance use, and a traumatic house fire changed both her literal voice and her outlook on life and work. She is candid about genetic addiction risks, mental health, brain scans, diet changes (including leaving strict veganism), and the pressures of growing up famous and sexualized in public. Throughout, she balances dark, self-critical honesty with humor, resilience, and a clear desire to manage her “demons” constructively through discipline, therapy, animals, and art.

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Miley Cyrus on pain, fame, drugs, and rebuilding herself publicly

  1. This long-form conversation between Joe Rogan and Miley Cyrus delves into her evolution from child star to self-aware adult artist. Miley explains how vocal surgery, touring abuse, substance use, and a traumatic house fire changed both her literal voice and her outlook on life and work. She is candid about genetic addiction risks, mental health, brain scans, diet changes (including leaving strict veganism), and the pressures of growing up famous and sexualized in public. Throughout, she balances dark, self-critical honesty with humor, resilience, and a clear desire to manage her “demons” constructively through discipline, therapy, animals, and art.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

7 ideas

Your voice and body carry the history of how you live.

Miley describes her deeper, raspy voice as a kind of ‘scar’ from years of over-touring, late nights, smoking, and emotional trauma, emphasizing that like wrinkles on a face, your voice and body reflect lifestyle and experiences.

Recovery and maintenance are as crucial for artists as for athletes.

She notes that, as a teen star, there was no concept of recovery days despite heavy schedules, and only later did she realize she has to treat herself like an athlete—prioritizing rest, diet, supplements, and mental health to have a long career.

Knowing your brain helps you understand your behavior and risks.

After anxiety, intense drug use, and a childhood head injury, Miley worked with Dr. Daniel Amen, using SPECT brain scans and bloodwork to see overactivity and weak ‘brakes,’ which informed her choices around substances, omega-3s, and lifestyle.

Not all sobriety is about total abstinence; it’s about honest fit.

She’s sober from weed and hard drugs and mostly avoids alcohol because of hangovers and genetic addiction risk, but rejects rigid moralizing—saying people should experiment carefully, be informed, and understand their own limits and vulnerabilities.

Strong boundaries are often mislabeled as “cold,” especially for women.

Miley worries she’s “too tough” because she can move on from relationships decisively, but Joe reframes this as resilience; the ‘cold bitch’ label often comes from partners who can’t accept that someone can let go and still be a good person.

Creative control demands firmness without sacrificing kindness.

She describes insisting on specific lighting and keeping a handheld mic at the VMAs, pushing back when assertiveness was called ‘diva’ behavior, and contrasting that with how male artists are praised as ‘creative geniuses’ for similar demands.

Rigorous physical outlets can channel manic energy and reduce pain.

With chronic hip/back pain, high mental energy, and stress, Miley realizes she needs intense, regular exercise—like running, bag work, and strength training—to ‘exercise the demons,’ reduce inflammation, and avoid destructive coping behaviors.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

6 quotes

“The voice can be like a face. It collects wrinkles and it tells a story.”

Miley Cyrus

“If I’m gonna be doing this kind of abnormal lifestyle, then I have to do everything else right.”

Miley Cyrus

“When it’s over, it’s over and you’re dead to me. I’ll do a lot of things, but I don’t fuck dead guys.”

Miley Cyrus

“People are not designed to be famous. That’s why kings are all tyrants.”

Joe Rogan

“If you can’t love yourself, how in the hell are you gonna love anybody else?” (quoting RuPaul)

Miley Cyrus, citing RuPaul

“There’s something that comes through in someone’s art when they’ve experienced things.”

Joe Rogan

QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THIS EPISODE

5 questions

How did Miley’s vocal surgery and understanding of her voice change the way she structures touring, rest, and creative work now?

This long-form conversation between Joe Rogan and Miley Cyrus delves into her evolution from child star to self-aware adult artist. Miley explains how vocal surgery, touring abuse, substance use, and a traumatic house fire changed both her literal voice and her outlook on life and work. She is candid about genetic addiction risks, mental health, brain scans, diet changes (including leaving strict veganism), and the pressures of growing up famous and sexualized in public. Throughout, she balances dark, self-critical honesty with humor, resilience, and a clear desire to manage her “demons” constructively through discipline, therapy, animals, and art.

In what ways does Miley’s story complicate the usual ‘Hollywood ruined the child star’ narrative, especially given her family’s genetic history with addiction?

How might realistic, age-appropriate conversations about drugs and sex for teenagers differ from current school approaches, based on what Miley and Joe discuss?

What are the psychological costs of filters and social media comparison for young women, and how can public figures like Miley push back against those pressures without exiting the platforms entirely?

How can other high-achieving or highly visible people adopt Miley’s mix of therapy, brain science, diet, exercise, and boundaries to manage stress and maintain a sense of self?

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