Joe Rogan Experience #1088 - Bryan Callen

1. 0:00 – 1:03

   Aging quirks: growing ears, nose hair, and vanity maintenance

   1. BCBryan Callen0:00

      ... thin nose.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      Not any more.

   3. BCBryan Callen0:02

      It behooved me.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      Yeah, have you ever looked at, like, Abe Vigoda's ears?

   5. BCBryan Callen0:08

      Yeah, they were big.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      They-

   7. BCBryan Callen0:10

      The ears and the nose grow.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      They keep growing.

   9. BCBryan Callen0:12

      Yeah, age is a very annoying thing.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:14

       Well, that's a weird one. It's almost like to let someone know, like, "Hey, look at this guy. His proportions are all fucked up. He's got bad juice."

   11. BCBryan Callen0:20

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       You know what I mean?

   13. BCBryan Callen0:21

       Yeah. So how do I reduce ... I wanted to get an ear reduction and a nose sharpening.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       And a nose reduction. I'm sure people have done that. I could only imagine. If girls are getting-

   15. BCBryan Callen0:29

       Well, Bruce Jenner.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       (laughs) Well, girl ... That's a different one.

   17. BCBryan Callen0:31

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       You know what I'm saying?

   19. BCBryan Callen0:33

       (imitates laughing)

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Uh, look at the big ass crazy ears.

   21. BCBryan Callen0:34

       Look at the, the hair on his ears. Abe.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Hey, he's not 12.

   23. BCBryan Callen0:38

       Shave those ears.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Yeah, I've, I've got hair growing out of my ears. I have to, I have to put a trimmer, run a trimmer on it.

   25. BCBryan Callen0:44

       Well, that, I'm vain. I pluck my ... Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Hmm.

   27. BCBryan Callen0:47

       If I see hair that doesn't belong somewhere, I, I have ... I'll take it out.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Go wax it.

   29. BCBryan Callen0:52

       My father, like, lets his nose hair grow, his eyebrows.

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Savage.
2. 1:03 – 2:15

   Family health interventions: Bryan’s frustration with his dad’s diet and inactivity

   1. BCBryan Callen1:03

      I get so mad at him 'cause the way he eats sometimes. Like, we were in Mexico and he, uh, he would just show up. You go to breakfast, he has this belly and he's got, like ... He's got four French toasts, and a waffle-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:17

      Oof.

   3. BCBryan Callen1:17

      ... and a banana. And I, and I'm just sitting there, and I g- I get so mad. And then I started texting him. I text him, I go, "Listen, man. You gotta start changing the way you eat." And, and I go ... And I'm angry as I'm texting this. I'm getting more angry, more angry. "So stop the bullshit and start eating n-" (laughs) I, I was so angry I had to tell him that I'm getting ... My heart was beating. I was furious. I couldn't have text faster. I go, "Get it together. Get it together and stop eating bullshit. And would it kill you to fucking move a little bit?" Bang! And I just sent that.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:48

      Whoa.

   5. BCBryan Callen1:49

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:50

      Strong.

   7. BCBryan Callen1:50

      I don't want him to die.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:52

      Does he exercise at all?

   9. BCBryan Callen1:54

      Fuck, no. And I'll tell you why.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:56

       (laughs)

   11. BCBryan Callen1:56

       When he was young, he was poor and he had to do manual labor.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:59

       Mm.

   13. BCBryan Callen2:00

       He had to work construction. He had to do everything with his hands. So now that he has money, it reminds him of when if he ... You ask him to do shit, if you ask him to help you with a table, it reminds him of when he was poor and how p- how awful it was.

3. 2:15 – 4:32

   Manual labor as strength training: construction, farms, and jiu-jitsu ‘mason strength’

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:15

      I was reading a book once on powerlifting, and one of the things that they suggested is getting a manual labor job.

   2. BCBryan Callen2:21

      That's a b- ... When you have to move furniture-

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:24

      Yeah.

   4. BCBryan Callen2:25

      ... okay, when you gotta carry couches upstairs, yeah, yeah. That'll, that'll get to you.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:29

      But I never saw that. I never saw anybody actually recommend that someone do that in order to get stronger.

   6. BCBryan Callen2:36

      Well, when you, um ... My friend who y- we- wrestled and played football on a high level, they, they used to work the farm. And they would ch- th- there was a thing where you would take hay and you would ... You'd run after the truck. The truck stopped, you'd take the hay and you'd throw it off-

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:50

      Mm-hmm.

   8. BCBryan Callen2:50

      ... and I guess you'd-

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:51

      Right.

   10. BCBryan Callen2:51

       Just doing that-

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:52

       Oh, yeah.

   12. BCBryan Callen2:53

       I mean, you know, you can-

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:54

       You'd get crazy strong.

   14. BCBryan Callen2:54

       I worked construction one summer in, uh, in Washington DC, in the 95-degree heat. And I had to dig a foundation for a building, for a house. Just dig into the ground all day.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:07

       Oh.

   16. BCBryan Callen3:07

       And then we had to, we had to d- demolish a house and take that debris, put it into a truck, and then drive it to a landfill called Lawton, I think. And then we would un- we'd take it off the truck. So that movement of digging and then, like, de- demolition and digging, and piling it in a truck and then piling it off a truck, you're too exhausted do a- to do a goddamn thing. You're not working out after that. You know, your body is done.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:33

       Yeah, if you do work out and you get used to it, though, I think that's the idea, is that your body becomes way more resilient.

   18. BCBryan Callen3:39

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:39

       That's what he was saying. If you could get a job, like, as a mason or some sort of manual labor on a construction site where you're carrying lumber-

   20. BCBryan Callen3:46

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:46

       ... and you'd just be lifting things up, carrying around all the time-

   22. BCBryan Callen3:48

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:48

       ... your body would just naturally get stronger.

   24. BCBryan Callen3:50

       The strongest guy I've ever felt in my life in jujitsu was a, a, a Mexican guy who was a mason.

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:55

       Oh, yeah, man. Carrying bricks. Imagine.

   26. BCBryan Callen3:55

       I, I couldn't move. I couldn't believe how, how his ... Nothing worked on him.

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:59

       Just imagine, like, picking up bricks all day long.

   28. BCBryan Callen4:01

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:01

       Just carrying bricks. Everything would just get stronger.

   30. BCBryan Callen4:04

       Yeah.
4. 4:32 – 6:36

   Comedy encounters and reputations: meeting Sinbad and why not to ‘name names’

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:32

      Speaking of big, jolly Black men with one name, uh, I met Sinbad the other day. I never met Sinbad before.

   2. BCBryan Callen4:37

      Good guy, right?

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:38

      Met him in a parking lot. Our cars were right next to each other. Fully random.

   4. BCBryan Callen4:42

      Hm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:43

      Just fully random. I'm like, "What's up, man?"

   6. BCBryan Callen4:44

      Was he wearing, was he wearing a, a dangly earring?

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:47

      I didn't check. I was-

   8. BCBryan Callen4:48

      Was he, was he dressed in a colorful manner, or-

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:51

      No, he was very understated.

   10. BCBryan Callen4:52

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:52

       He seemed, uh, completely normal.

   12. BCBryan Callen4:54

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:54

       Like, he mi- ... I don't remember what he was wearing. He might be wearing what you're wearing right now, exactly.

   14. BCBryan Callen4:57

       He always struck me as a nice dude.

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:58

       Very, very nice guy.

   16. BCBryan Callen4:59

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:00

       Very nice guy. Sweetheart.

   18. BCBryan Callen5:00

       And what's he, what's he doing now?

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:02

       Doing standup still. Touring.

   20. BCBryan Callen5:04

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:05

       You know?

   22. BCBryan Callen5:05

       Still got an audience.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:06

       Oh, yeah.

   24. BCBryan Callen5:07

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:07

       He's a funny dude, man. Apparently he was really funny on Kill Tony. They did a Kill Tony episode and Sinbad sat in as one of the, um, the guest, uh, judges.

   26. BCBryan Callen5:16

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:17

       You know, they have a new guest judge every week. And, uh, they said he was killer.

   28. BCBryan Callen5:20

       Yeah, du- dudes who've been doing it for that long-

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:22

       Yeah.

   30. BCBryan Callen5:23

       ... they've got some tricks up their sleeve. Don't be surprised.
5. 6:36 – 8:41

   Identity, belonging, and extremes: transracial debates, face tattoos, and ‘being seen’

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:36

      Isn't it funny too that we quantify certain things that are just dumb? Like, there's certain things you just never... You're just not gonna bounce back from the Rachel Dolezal thing, when she pretended she was Black, but she really isn't Black.

   2. BCBryan Callen6:45

      (laughs) Yeah, that's a little too much.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:46

      Like, you know what I'm saying? But there's, like, those things-

   4. BCBryan Callen6:48

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:48

      ... where it becomes a nationwide thing. And I, I bet she's a lovely lady. I don't know.

   6. BCBryan Callen6:52

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:52

      I have no i- I have no idea.

   8. BCBryan Callen6:53

      That might be empathy gone wild, or that might be sort of this, this, uh... I think a lot of times everybody wants to be an individual. They want... That, that's always been a problem with the human condition, right?

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:02

      Right.

   10. BCBryan Callen7:02

       You wanna, you wanna be, you wanna be unique. We, we all do, right?

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:06

       Right. Yeah.

   12. BCBryan Callen7:06

       Uh, even though we all believe in equality, we all wanna be not equal. We wanna be a little better than the next guy, or at least unique.

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:12

       Yeah.

   14. BCBryan Callen7:12

       And, uh, that's maybe where competition comes from and stuff. But I think sometimes people negotiate that issue and that problem with, uh, with a very clumsy apparatus.

   15. JRJoe Rogan7:23

       Yeah.

   16. BCBryan Callen7:23

       With a really weird way of doing it. "I'm gonna be transracial, or I'm gonna, I'm gonna wear dishes in my ears and, and, and literally cover my whole face with tattoos." That's fine.

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:32

       It's super common now.

   18. BCBryan Callen7:33

       There might... Yeah, there might be a better way to negotiate that, that problem you're having, because it's a... It's still pretty surface.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:40

       You ever look at the hashtag face tattoo on Instagram?

   20. BCBryan Callen7:43

       No.

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:43

       Holy shit.

   22. BCBryan Callen7:45

       It's crazy, though.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:45

       There's a lot of people getting their face tattooed.

   24. BCBryan Callen7:47

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:48

       Like, it's like, "What? Slow down."

   26. BCBryan Callen7:50

       Yeah. Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:50

       Slow down.

   28. BCBryan Callen7:52

       It goes back to wanting to be seen.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:54

       Well, I think what you're saying makes a lot of sense in terms of, like, people wanting to belong to a group that seems cool. And, like, Black people seem like overall a cool group, right? Like, you have good music behind it, they have a funny way of talking, they have all these amazing pro athletes. They have a totally different kind of culture, and you identify with that culture, but you can't get in 'cause you're a white girl. You're like, "Shit, what do I do?"

   30. BCBryan Callen8:16

       It's also something, it's also something... I think also there's a romance to-
6. 8:41 – 25:59

   Race, sports, and genetics vs. environment: elite athletes and the diversity of Africa

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:41

      I mean, think about it. Some of the very best standup comedians, some of the very best musicians.

   2. BCBryan Callen8:46

      Jazz, too.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:47

      Yeah. And you think of the percentage of the population that's Black.

   4. BCBryan Callen8:51

      12%, man.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:51

      And the percentage that become elite professional athletes.

   6. BCBryan Callen8:55

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:56

      I mean, what is the percentage of NBA players that are Black? It's, it's something crazy.

   8. BCBryan Callen9:00

      A lot of it's also just-

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:01

      What is, what is it, you think?

   10. BCBryan Callen9:02

       I don't know, but it's, it's pretty high.

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:04

       Take a guess.

   12. BCBryan Callen9:04

       I mean, there's-

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:04

       69%?

   14. BCBryan Callen9:06

       Probably. Probably something like that.

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:07

       Don't know why I said that number. Jamie, when you were-

   16. BCBryan Callen9:09

       A lot, a lot of it might be just also that there are two, there are two avenues open to you in a lot of Black communities. At least it's changing, but, you know, it was sports and, and music, right?

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:18

       Yeah, for sure that's, that probably plays a part in it. No doubt about it. But it's also... There's an extra- extraordinary number of professional athletes, like elite athletes-

   18. BCBryan Callen9:30

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:30

       ... that just happen to be Black.

   20. BCBryan Callen9:32

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:32

       And what is that, though? Is it genetic? Is it, is it, uh, the environment they're coming from? I mean, it's, it's a fascinating thing to be explored, because for all this talk of racism, if you just wanna be really honest, there's a lot of African-Americans that have some pretty phenomenal genetic traits.

   22. BCBryan Callen9:51

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:51

       Like fit, like Carl... Like, think of, like, who's like... Jamie, who's, like, the biggest freak all time, uh, athlete basketball player would it be?

   24. BCBryan Callen10:02

       Probably LeBron James.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:03

       LeBron James. Probably, right?

   26. BCBryan Callen10:04

       Yeah, yeah, sure.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       And then you have, like, Michael Jordan is another freak athlete, right?

   28. BCBryan Callen10:08

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:08

       I mean, how many of those white-

   30. BCBryan Callen10:09

       Vince Carter.
7. 25:59 – 33:03

   Tribalism and ‘single-variable’ thinking: why labeling people breaks discourse

   1. BCBryan Callen25:59

      It, it's just way more complicated. People are way less, uh, uh, easy to pigeonhole. There ... Just because you supported Trump doesn't necessarily mean you're a right-winger across the board. Doesn't mean you're, you know, about the patriarchy and stuff. And I, I find that a lot of young people, and I find a lot of people on, who are trying to be woke and stuff, and we do this as Americans. It's not just the left, it's also the right. We do this as Americans. We wanna find a bad guy and we wanna put a label on that bad guy. We want a single variable answer. We want a single variable solution.

   2. JRJoe Rogan26:28

      Hmm.

   3. BCBryan Callen26:28

      Right? So in other words, "You are a racist. You are a sexist. You are a homophobe, so you gotta be sanctioned and we gotta get rid of you. And if we can get rid of racism ..." As if racism has anything to do with it actually. It's about tribalism, 'cause people don't need a difference in skin color to hate each other. Have you heard of the Middle East or Africa or even this country? It's not about the melanin in your skin. It's just we're tribal. But, but w- we tend to wanna find that one label, "You're a racist, you're a homophobe. By the way, you're an homo-"

   4. JRJoe Rogan27:00

      Well, there's no ... M- most certainly racist, right?

   5. BCBryan Callen27:01

      Of course there are.

   6. JRJoe Rogan27:02

      Yeah.

   7. BCBryan Callen27:02

      Of course there are.

   8. JRJoe Rogan27:03

      D- We don't think racism is the problem that we're facing? You think it's more of a tribalism issue?

   9. BCBryan Callen27:06

      Oh, I, I think that if everybody was the same color, we'd have no problem b- uh, joining groups and hating each other. No problem. Again-

   10. JRJoe Rogan27:13

       Well, that's true for sure.

   11. BCBryan Callen27:13

       Please see the Middle East.

   12. JRJoe Rogan27:14

       That's f- for sure, yeah.

   13. BCBryan Callen27:15

       Look, look, in, in Yuval Harari's amazing book-

   14. JRJoe Rogan27:17

       So racism is just a symptom of that.

   15. BCBryan Callen27:19

       Fucking-

   16. JRJoe Rogan27:20

       Yeah.

   17. BCBryan Callen27:20

       Yuval Harari's great book, uh, Sapiens. Everybody should read it.

   18. JRJoe Rogan27:23

       Read it.

   19. BCBryan Callen27:24

       Thank you.

   20. JRJoe Rogan27:24

       On your recommendation.

   21. BCBryan Callen27:26

       Uh, hi- the Dinka. The Dinka and the Nua in the Sudan. Let's just take them. They look exactly the same. Just Google it. They look exactly the same.

   22. JRJoe Rogan27:31

       Maybe you're just racist.

   23. BCBryan Callen27:32

       Right. They, they are-

   24. JRJoe Rogan27:33

       I mean, that's like, like saying all Black people look exactly the same.

   25. BCBryan Callen27:36

       Well, well, they-

   26. JRJoe Rogan27:37

       Is that what it is?

   27. BCBryan Callen27:37

       They look, they do look, they, they, they are basically ... (laughs) They are, they are ... They ... The only way to tell them d- d- the difference is the tribal markings. But for the most part, they're, they look exactly the same, very similar cultures, a herding culture. Uh, Dinka, in the Dinka language means people. Nua in the Nua language means original people.

   28. JRJoe Rogan27:56

       Whoa.

   29. BCBryan Callen27:57

       And they're sworn enemies. They fucking hate each other. Talk to Justin Renn about-

   30. JRJoe Rogan28:01

       Whoa.
8. 33:03 – 37:45

   Politics as team sport: guns, policing, risk perception, and media ‘negativity bias’

   1. BCBryan Callen33:03

      Well, you can... Yeah, it's like, it's like if you're, if you're in favor, if you believe that global warming is caused by human beings, right?

   2. JRJoe Rogan33:10

      You've gotta be on the right.

   3. BCBryan Callen33:11

      Y- Y- Y- You know where you stand on gay marriage, on everything else. Like, that, that's unfortunate. You can't be sort of responsive to evidence, right? So instead of being affiliated with a party or a candidate, be, be, be affiliated to the, with the problem. What's the problem? We all agree we don't like sp- shooters, right? That sucks.

   4. JRJoe Rogan33:28

      Yes.

   5. BCBryan Callen33:28

      So there's gotta be a way, if we could put our ideas together, create a little idea sect, there's gotta be a way, right? There's gotta be a way to-

   6. JRJoe Rogan33:37

      To deal with this problem.

   7. BCBryan Callen33:37

      ... tal- Well, can we talk about the fact that we all agree that the problem sucks? Now, you're saying we need more guns and this other side's saying we need less guns. Is there, is there something, is there something we can c- Can we at least start talking instead... 'Cause, you know, Brendan on the podcast said, "Can we agree there's a gun problem?" The fucking number of hate emails we got.

   8. JRJoe Rogan34:00

      Dudes do not wanna give up those guns.

   9. BCBryan Callen34:02

      And, and, and, uh, yeah, and, and Jim Jefferies was so funny 'cause he goes, uh, in his pod, did you hear that stand up he did? He goes, "Here's the argument. 'Cause I like them, so fuck off." And it's like, that's, that's good enough.

   10. JRJoe Rogan34:13

       Yeah.

   11. BCBryan Callen34:14

       The, the Constitution says that guns, you, we have a right to bear arms so we can protect ourselves against tyrannical government, right?

   12. JRJoe Rogan34:19

       Yes.

   13. BCBryan Callen34:19

       I mean, that's, that's what the Second Amendment... Well, you know, he, he's like, "The government has drones," right? "They got tanks. They got cruise missiles. Your AR-15 ain't doing shit."

   14. JRJoe Rogan34:30

       Here's another problem.

   15. BCBryan Callen34:31

       So-

   16. JRJoe Rogan34:31

       These people need to understand this. The government is us. Okay?

   17. BCBryan Callen34:34

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan34:34

       Everybody that you just described is someone who works in the military. Everyone you just described is someone who's a soldier.

   19. BCBryan Callen34:39

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan34:39

       Those soldiers are civilians. They're the same people. They're people.

   21. BCBryan Callen34:42

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan34:42

       They're us. We're not talking about some global elite that's gonna take over. They're not taking over with us.

   23. BCBryan Callen34:47

       Right. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan34:47

       We are not gonna take over ourselves.

   25. BCBryan Callen34:49

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan34:49

       We're not, this is not a stupid fucking country. Like, the idea that somehow or another the military will start taking over. What we have to be careful is people that have extreme power and shit judgment, like that cop that shot that kid in the hallway in Arizona in that, that horrible video.

   27. BCBryan Callen35:03

       Yeah. Yeah, that was bad.

   28. JRJoe Rogan35:04

       White guy shooting a white guy too, by the way. I don't even know if that has anything to do with racism, with a lot of what cops are doing. I think some of it most certainly does, but I think a lot of it has to do with people who are just incompetent and they're police officers and they shouldn't be police officers.

   29. BCBryan Callen35:18

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan35:19

       And on top of that, I think the stress of the job just breaks people's brains.
9. 37:45 – 58:28

   Health, flu lessons, and the medication spiral: ADHD, SSRIs, and kids’ movement needs

   1. JRJoe Rogan37:45

      Like, dude, I know two people who have lost loved ones to the flu this year.

   2. BCBryan Callen37:50

      Phew. Really?

   3. JRJoe Rogan37:51

      Yeah. Yep. One of them was a 14-year-old girl.

   4. BCBryan Callen37:55

      Oh my God.

   5. JRJoe Rogan37:55

      Yeah. The flu killed her.

   6. BCBryan Callen37:57

      Jesus.

   7. JRJoe Rogan37:57

      Yeah. Dude, this flu is no fucking joke.

   8. BCBryan Callen37:59

      I was down for two weeks. Did you get it?

   9. JRJoe Rogan38:02

      Dude, it's no joke. I got it. I was gone, down for a couple days because I caught it really early on. I knew it was happening, and I did nothing. I stayed home, and I ate real good, and I just slept all day.

   10. BCBryan Callen38:12

       See, I, I, I didn't sleep-

   11. JRJoe Rogan38:13

       And I let my body catch up.

   12. BCBryan Callen38:14

       ... and I worked out like an asshole.

   13. JRJoe Rogan38:15

       You can't ... Those ... The working out ones are the worst.

   14. BCBryan Callen38:17

       Killed me.

   15. JRJoe Rogan38:18

       I've had that happen before where I was thinking I was a little bit sick-

   16. BCBryan Callen38:20

       (exhales)

   17. JRJoe Rogan38:20

       ... and then I worked out, and it just gripped me.

   18. BCBryan Callen38:23

       Got me.

   19. JRJoe Rogan38:23

       Yeah. I didn't do-

   20. BCBryan Callen38:24

       Two weeks.

   21. JRJoe Rogan38:24

       I just-

   22. BCBryan Callen38:24

       I've never been sick like that. I haven't been sick like that since college. I was down-

   23. JRJoe Rogan38:27

       I was real proud of myself when I recognized it. I was like, "Something's going on here." Like, I, I'm pretty in tune with when I'm feeling like a pussy where I'm just lazy-

   24. BCBryan Callen38:34

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan38:34

       ... and when, like, my body just feels off. And I'm like, "My body feels off." And then I was like, "Oh my God." And then I was sweating.

   26. BCBryan Callen38:39

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan38:39

       And I'd be sitting there. It was chilly, and then I'd be sweating. And I was like, "Okay, I am just gonna get under the covers and Netflix the fuck out of these couple of days."

   28. BCBryan Callen38:46

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan38:46

       And that's all I did.

   30. BCBryan Callen38:47

       That's so good-
10. 58:28 – 1:06:41

    Free speech conflicts and campus activism: Christina Hoff Sommers, Peterson protests, and power

    1. JRJoe Rogan58:28

       Yeah, but that's the pa- only part of the problem. The real problem is a control/power problem. The con- there's control and power problems 'cause these are 18-year-old kids, and they've just gotten away from home for the first time, and they wanna exercise their power.

    2. BCBryan Callen58:39

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan58:39

       They wanna change the world, and they're fucking babies.

    4. BCBryan Callen58:41

       Yeah, it's true.

    5. JRJoe Rogan58:41

       They have half-baked brains-

    6. BCBryan Callen58:43

       They're young. (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan58:43

       ... and they wanna yell shit out, and they think that they're doing the right thing. They really do. And they were yelling outside, "You can't have ... We h- we won't have fascists in our school." Did you see Jordan Peterson was doing a speech, and they were literally at the windows? They climbed the walls and got to the windows and were banging on the windows from the outside-

    8. BCBryan Callen58:59

       Wow.

    9. JRJoe Rogan58:59

       ... while the speech went on.

    10. BCBryan Callen59:00

        Wow.

    11. JRJoe Rogan59:00

        Dude, it's disturbing.

    12. BCBryan Callen59:02

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan59:02

        And everyone inside is super calm, and there's people that k- keep an eye on the window 'cause you hear it cracking. Like, they're just smashing this fucking window, just banging up against it the entire time he's talking. You just hear bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And they're yelling shit outside about fascism or ... It's like-

    14. BCBryan Callen59:19

        Wow.

    15. JRJoe Rogan59:20

        They don't even know what the fuck that means.

    16. BCBryan Callen59:21

        No, they don't.

    17. JRJoe Rogan59:22

        Like, they literally are just saying it for anybody who disagrees with them.

    18. BCBryan Callen59:25

        Yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan59:25

        When a real fascist comes along, they're gonna be so duped.

    20. BCBryan Callen59:29

        Well, and they'll be, they'll be shot.

    21. JRJoe Rogan59:31

        Oh, for sure.

    22. BCBryan Callen59:31

        They'll be lined up against a wall and shot.

    23. JRJoe Rogan59:33

        Well-

    24. BCBryan Callen59:33

        That's what, that's what fascists do, real fascists.

    25. JRJoe Rogan59:35

        But they seem to think that disagreeing, uh, with, uh, people who are out of their fucking mind-

    26. BCBryan Callen59:41

        They don't have any confidence.

    27. JRJoe Rogan59:42

        ... equates fascism.

    28. BCBryan Callen59:43

        They, but they, they have no confidence, right? So, so if, if you're having-

    29. JRJoe Rogan59:46

        Why do you say that?

    30. BCBryan Callen59:46

        Well, 'cause if you're having an argument with somebody and you end up hitting them 'cause they're saying things you don't like, it means you don't have the ideas to compete with their ideas. You don't have a rebuttal.

Episode duration: 3:08:29