Joe Rogan Experience #1260 - Lennox Lewis & Russell Peters

1. 0:00 – 1:59

   Live kickoff: Lennox’s calm demeanor and post-retirement training mindset

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Just don't cras- crash as much. You don't think that's the issue?

   2. RPRussell Peters0:03

      No, no, no.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      Four, three, two. This time, we're live. (object thuds) Ladies and gentlemen, we are live with the great and powerful, Russell Peters. Hello.

   4. LLLennox Lewis0:16

      Hi.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      And one of the baddest motherfuckers to ever get into the ring-

   6. LLLennox Lewis0:20

      Yes.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      ... Lennox Lewis.

   8. LLLennox Lewis0:21

      Don't mess with the best.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      That's a fact. That, you know, you're walking around on this earth, one of the baddest motherfuckers of all time.

   10. LLLennox Lewis0:29

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Verified, 100%.

   12. LLLennox Lewis0:31

       I feel good about it too.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       It's gotta feel good.

   14. LLLennox Lewis0:33

       Yeah, I don't get in any fights.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       But you know what else? You have your wits about you, 100%, you- you're smooth and relaxed, you know? How did you do that?

   16. LLLennox Lewis0:42

       Oh, I started out that way. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       (laughs) (claps)

   18. LLLennox Lewis0:47

       It's like, uh, you know, (sighs) apple don't fall too far from the tree, type of thing. Uh, I've always been that way, uh, col- collective thinker, uh, soft-spoken, and, um, what you don't know about me, what you don't know about me, when you do know about me, you love me even more.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Do you exercise at all anymore, boxing-wise?

   20. LLLennox Lewis1:08

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Do you, do you hit the bag and-

   22. LLLennox Lewis1:09

       Well, not, not hit the bag, I'm more into, like, working out with the weights. It was, uh, like, it was hard for me when I retired. That was the worst part. Uh-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       What was the hardest?

   24. LLLennox Lewis1:19

       Just, you know, saying, "Okay," you know, "I'm eating more, so I need to exercise," 'cause I'm not doing no exercising, but when I start exercising, I'm training for a fight.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:27

       Right.

   26. LLLennox Lewis1:28

       So it's like, "Okay, training, training. Why am I doing this? I'm not gonna fight, but I'm still training for a fight." So mentally, I had to say to myself, "Well, let me try the soft things," you know? "Let me play tennis and all these different sports which I can play," and that kinda helped me a lot better.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:44

       Yeah, that is an interesting thing with fighters. A lot of times, when they're done, they're done. They just get-

   28. RPRussell Peters1:48

       Look at, look at Maidana.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:49

       Ricky Hatton. (clears throat) Ooh, yeah. Well, he's apparently gotten back in shape, yeah.

   30. RPRussell Peters1:51

       He's, he's training back, he's got, he's back in training camp, but Maidana got big.
2. 1:59 – 5:25

   Russell’s weight loss, jiu-jitsu benefits, and testing boxers with other styles

   1. RPRussell Peters1:59

      That's what made me wanna lose weight. (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:01

      (laughs)

   3. LLLennox Lewis2:01

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:01

      Really?

   5. RPRussell Peters2:02

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:02

      People talking shit?

   7. RPRussell Peters2:03

      They were like, "Holy fuck, did you eat your whole cast?"

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:06

      You do look like you're losing weight though, you look pretty slim my friend.

   9. RPRussell Peters2:08

      I, I lost 21 pounds.

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:09

       Mm-hmm.

   11. RPRussell Peters2:09

       With our, uh, with our dear friend, Jean Jacques Machado.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:12

       Well, hey, jiu-jitsu will peel that weight off you.

   13. RPRussell Peters2:14

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:14

       That's a fact.

   15. RPRussell Peters2:14

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:15

       That's some strenuous shit. You ever thought about doing jiu-jitsu, Lennox?

   17. RPRussell Peters2:18

       He's scared of me, he won't do it.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:19

       Whoa.

   19. RPRussell Peters2:20

       Scared of me.

   20. LLLennox Lewis2:20

       Let me, let me tell you, when I was growing up-

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:23

       (laughs)

   22. RPRussell Peters2:23

       (laughs)

   23. LLLennox Lewis2:23

       ... I had, I had friends that did wrestling, I had friends that did kickboxing, all these different, um, uh, mediums. And, um, you know, we would always practice with them, whether it's wrestling, whether it's, uh, kicking, whether it's, um, doing whatever, play fighting.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:40

       You did all that stuff?

   25. LLLennox Lewis2:41

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:41

       Yeah?

   27. LLLennox Lewis2:41

       Because everybody always wants to test a boxer-

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:44

       Right.

   29. LLLennox Lewis2:44

       ... and say, "Well, you know, how does he fair up against a karate guy? How does he fair up against a, a kickboxer? How does he fair up against a, a MMA guy?"

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:53

       Yeah.
3. 5:25 – 9:30

   TMZ jewelry-thief takedown: breaking down the grappling and the legal risk

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:25

      When, you know, when you see him wrestling with people on TMZ, you see that shit-

   2. LLLennox Lewis5:28

      Man.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:28

      ... where they're wrestling with the jewel thief.

   4. LLLennox Lewis5:30

      I was trying to-

   5. RPRussell Peters5:31

      (laughs)

   6. LLLennox Lewis5:31

      I was trying to S- see what happened after. He didn't throw no punches though.

   7. RPRussell Peters5:35

      No, I was coaching.

   8. LLLennox Lewis5:36

      Arm bar.

   9. RPRussell Peters5:36

      I was yelling, "Go get his neck, get his fucking neck."

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:37

       That's what I- you, if you watch it, you see I went for his arm to pull down-

   11. LLLennox Lewis5:41

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:41

       ... to get his neck.

   13. LLLennox Lewis5:42

       Yeah.

   14. RPRussell Peters5:42

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:42

       And then the other guy in front of him pulled him down and I couldn't get the neck.

   16. LLLennox Lewis5:45

       Could you tell us what happened? I mean, uh, all, all-

   17. RPRussell Peters5:47

       Yeah, I'll explain what happened.

   18. LLLennox Lewis5:48

       ... all I seen was a guy walking out and you grabbed him.

   19. RPRussell Peters5:51

       No, if you watch it-

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:52

       Here it is, let's watch this on TMZ.

   21. LLLennox Lewis5:52

       There it is, there we go, here we go.

   22. RPRussell Peters5:53

       Okay, so here's what happened-

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:54

       Russell Peters.

   24. RPRussell Peters5:54

       ... let me tell you what happens. I'm there looking at a ring, right?

   25. LLLennox Lewis5:58

       Yeah.

   26. RPRussell Peters5:58

       And that guy's sitting down-... earlier, had checked to see if the door was open. He went out to spit, and now he real- he thinks the door's open. So now he thinks he's just gonna get up and walk away with this ring.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:10

       (sniffs)

   28. RPRussell Peters6:11

       This is where he makes his little move. And then they lock the doors, and then I'm standing there and I'm like, "What's going on?" And I'm like, he takes a swing at my friend's father, and then I go, "No, no." I try to get his neck, and that guy pulls him. You see?

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:23

       There's a lot of opportunities to get-

   30. RPRussell Peters6:24

       Yeah.
4. 9:30 – 14:42

   Martial arts movies, MMA curiosity, and why leg kicks change everything

   1. LLLennox Lewis9:30

      I know, I watched a lot of karate movies. There's different things you could do, like...

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:33

      You ever wanna practice karate? You ever, like, th- wanna do something different? That's why I was asking you about jujitsu.

   3. LLLennox Lewis9:39

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan9:39

      Because, you know, you, when you're a world heavyweight champion boxer, after a while, you're like, "What other shit can I learn?"

   5. RPRussell Peters9:44

      I kept arm-locking them (laughs) when we were in England. I kept hugging them and putting them in an arm... (laughs)

   6. LLLennox Lewis9:48

      Yeah.

   7. RPRussell Peters9:48

      ... an arm lock.

   8. LLLennox Lewis9:49

      Um, you know, great Bruce Lee fan. I love, uh, fighting movies. And, uh, you know, martial arts has always been a part of my life. And I say that because every fight I've fought, before I fought that fight, I watched a martial art movie.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:06

      Really?

   10. LLLennox Lewis10:07

       Yeah. You know-

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:08

       Like what?

   12. LLLennox Lewis10:09

       Uh...

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:09

       Like Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee, that kind of shit? Jackie Chan?

   14. LLLennox Lewis10:12

       Five Deadly Venoms.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:13

       Oh, the real shit.

   16. RPRussell Peters10:14

       (laughs)

   17. LLLennox Lewis10:14

       Yeah, so, you know, those kind of movies.

   18. RPRussell Peters10:16

       Carter Wong and type stuff, you know.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:18

       Mm.

   20. LLLennox Lewis10:19

       Yeah, I like that. And, uh, that just got me in that mental state, like, you know, watch-

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:24

       Do you watch MMA today?

   22. LLLennox Lewis10:25

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:25

       Do you... Do you ever watch it and go, "If this was around when I was fighting, would I do this?"

   24. LLLennox Lewis10:30

       Um, the only thing I think about that because, you know, like I said, I was into wrestling in, in... I did wrestling when I was younger, and boxing as well. So I didn't know they could combine them two until I got older, but, you know, my focus was more on boxing. Uh, but, you know, if they got paid a lot of money, I probably would've done it.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:50

       Mm.

   26. LLLennox Lewis10:50

       You know?

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:51

       Yeah, that's how a lot of people feel, I think. I think it... Like right now the money's not quite there. It's not quite... It's... For some people like Conor McGregor or Ronda Rousey, it... But for the other folks, it's not, it's not enough to get a guy like Earl Spence to jump over.

   28. LLLennox Lewis11:04

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:05

       You know?

   30. LLLennox Lewis11:05

       No, and then I see a lot of... I seen some boxers actually good at boxing actually just win the fight on boxing, because they're so good with their hands.
5. 14:42 – 19:40

   Knowing when to retire: Emanuel Steward, Tyson closure, and the short-notice Klitschko fight

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:42

      You do, right? Doesn't he? He's always looked good. But when you were... Like you were, you were one of those guys who did the smart... You retired and you just retired.

   2. LLLennox Lewis14:51

      Yes.

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:51

      You know, which is... I respect so much. We were just talking about Marvin Hagler the other day. That's smart.

   4. LLLennox Lewis14:56

      Amen.

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:56

      When Marvin Hagler retired, he's like, "Goodnight. Take care, everybody." Lost a controversial decision to Sugar Ray Leonard- 1967. He said, "Take care. I'm gonna go do some movies." And that was it.

   6. LLLennox Lewis15:06

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      He just never came back. I mean, it is so rare that a fighter does that.

   8. LLLennox Lewis15:10

      Well, you know what?

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      Marvin was disheartened like a motherfucker for the boxing though. He hated it. He was like, "I'm out." Yeah.

   10. LLLennox Lewis15:15

       Yeah. Um, you know, we... Boxers go through so much and, uh, it's like when they know when it's time... When a boxer says it's time to quit, they know it's time because they've gone through so much and they realize that it's a lot of hard work. For me, I've been boxing since I've been 15. So, you know, I've been training hundreds of hours, training hundreds of hours, uh, working out, resting, uh, working on, uh, technique, sparring, all these different things. After a while, you know, you have to rea- you reach that height where you say, "Okay, that's enough." And sometimes, you know, people, managers and trainers and promoters, they don't want to tell the boxer that's enough because that's how much they're making money off of that boxer every time he steps in the ring.

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       Right.

   12. LLLennox Lewis16:01

       So, um-

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       Did you have a conversation with Emanuel Steward about it?

   14. LLLennox Lewis16:04

       Absolutely.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       Yeah. And who, who made the decision? Did you guys make it together?

   16. LLLennox Lewis16:07

       Uh, I made the decision. He wanted m- me actually to go on.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       Really?

   18. LLLennox Lewis16:11

       Yeah. 'Cause I wanted to... You know, Tyson was my main nemesis and, um, you know, he's a, he's a boxer that I would... I definitely wanted to fight before retiring. And, uh, I didn't know if it was gonna happen or not. So I actually stuck around for a couple more years for that fight to happen because I didn't want throughout history people would be saying, "Oh, Tyson would've won," or, "Louis would've won." I wanted them to know who would've won.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:38

       Right, right.

   20. LLLennox Lewis16:39

       And then after that, after the Tyson fight, you know, Manny said, "Listen, Klitschko's around. That's the new generation. You can beat the, the guys from this generation and the guys from the next generation." I'm like, "Yeah, that sounds good." So he kind of talked me into doing that fight 'cause I wasn't really gonna go do that fight.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:55

       Mm-hmm.

   22. LLLennox Lewis16:56

       And then, uh, you know, that was a year after Tyson and I didn't really want to, uh, box him straight away. I wanted to box somebody else because the main nemesis was Tyson and, you know, once I, once I beat Tyson, you know, I could relax a little bit. I relaxed for a year and then getting back into boxing, I boxed Klitschko, was my first fight, which was a mistake. Took the fight 17, 17 days notice. At my worst, I beat him at his best.

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:24

       Why did, why was that such a short notice fight?

   24. LLLennox Lewis17:26

       Uh, uh, because the opponent that I actually picked to fight didn't fight... didn't wanna fight me. He actually said no.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:34

       Who was that supposed to be?

   26. LLLennox Lewis17:35

       Uh, Johnson from, uh...

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:38

       Oh yeah, Kirk Johnson-

   28. LLLennox Lewis17:39

       Kirk Johnson from Nova Scotia.

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:40

       ... from Nova Scotia. And you were doing him a favor?

   30. LLLennox Lewis17:42

       I think Klitschko felt that he was doing him a favor. "Listen, take... Let me take the fight off. Been training for two years for this guy. I'm ready. And then we'll give you the first shot after I win." That's what was promised to him.
6. 19:40 – 31:01

   Most satisfying win: Rahman rematch revenge, Africa altitude, and the two-year legal chase

   1. JRJoe Rogan19:40

      Physically. Physically. Yeah. Yeah, you're wider. You know, when, when you look back on your career, like do you have like a most satisfying victory?

   2. LLLennox Lewis19:48

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan19:48

      What is it?

   4. LLLennox Lewis19:49

      Hasim Rahman.

   5. JRJoe Rogan19:50

      I was gonna say that. I was gonna say the rematch. The first or the second?

   6. LLLennox Lewis19:53

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan19:53

      The second one motherfucker. (laughing) Jesus Christ.

   8. LLLennox Lewis19:56

      You Wally.

   9. JRJoe Rogan19:57

      You got... When a guy, when a guy beats you like that and then you know you could have beaten him or you should have beaten him. Is that what bothered you so much?

   10. LLLennox Lewis20:05

       Um, no. You know what really bothered me? Is the fact that I gave him an opportunity. It... I gave him a fight when, uh, I'm basically waiting for Tyson, and I have to keep busy. I'm looking down the list of who, who to fight. He's number seven. I realized that he's durable. He's not, not one of these guys that get knocks out easy. So I wanted to give my fans, you know, a proper fight. Box the best guy out there. Not box a easy guy that's easy to get knocked out. I don't wanna go home in two rounds. So... And then another reason, a lot of people don't know, I went to Africa to fight because Muhammad Ali went to Africa.

   11. JRJoe Rogan20:38

       Wow.

   12. LLLennox Lewis20:38

       He fought in Africa. So I wanted to do that. I wanted to be... I wanted to fight in Africa. If... You know, I say, "I'm a world champion, so I need to fight all around the world." So that's what made me go to Africa. The only thing about Africa is, I didn't know that it was such a high altitude up there. And for me to, uh, have a fight, I should have got there a lot earlier but I was doing Oceans 11 at that time.

   13. JRJoe Rogan21:02

       Ah.

   14. LLLennox Lewis21:02

       People said, "Oh, you were doing a movie." I wasn't doing no movie, I was sitting around half the time waiting for them to change the lights, then go out and go out there for two minutes and then go back and sit there for another two hours while they change the lights, so-

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:13

       Were you training at all when that was happening?

   16. LLLennox Lewis21:15

       Yeah, I was training but it wasn't like the... It wasn't the conditions of training, you know. I needed a bag, I needed sparring partners.

   17. JRJoe Rogan21:22

       Right.

   18. LLLennox Lewis21:22

       I needed to be, uh, up there a lot sooner to get-

   19. JRJoe Rogan21:25

       So you just kind of exercising.

   20. LLLennox Lewis21:26

       ... acclimatized. Yes.

   21. JRJoe Rogan21:27

       How many thousand feet was it above sea level?

   22. LLLennox Lewis21:30

       Pff... Higher than, uh, Big Bear.

   23. JRJoe Rogan21:32

       Really. It was Cape Town, right? So more than six?

   24. LLLennox Lewis21:34

       Yeah. Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan21:35

       Wow.

   26. LLLennox Lewis21:35

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan21:35

       Wow, I didn't know that.

   28. LLLennox Lewis21:37

       Yeah, it was kind of weird because when I start working out, I was like throwing punches, then I found myself going (panting) . So I had to take two steps back and I'm like, "Oh, no. N- Don't tell me this fight's gonna be one of those fights where I have to take my time."

   29. JRJoe Rogan21:50

       Mm.

   30. LLLennox Lewis21:50

       So I basically went out there taking my time. I realized he's, he's dealing with the same thing I'm dealing with, although he was there a lot earlier. But, you know, I had a couple things going wrong, boxing at 4:00 in the morning, uh, they couldn't find a big enough ring. Then they... When they put the ring together, it was like, uh, 18 by 19. So... And then the, the punch that actually hit me, I actually thought I, I was gonna block it but it came around this side. I put my ha- I put my hand up to block it but it came around, hit me. One of those things where a man threw a terrific punch, which my chin happened to be in the way of.
7. 31:01 – 35:48

   Emanuel Steward’s impact and the politics of boxing commentary

   1. JRJoe Rogan31:01

      D- do you, do you feel like there was, like, two stages of your career? Like pre-Emanuel Steward and then post?

   2. LLLennox Lewis31:06

      Yeah, absolutely. Uh-

   3. RPRussell Peters31:07

      There was two sizes of him too, then, if you look at ... And serious.

   4. LLLennox Lewis31:10

      (laughs)

   5. GUGuest31:10

      (laughs) Yeah.

   6. RPRussell Peters31:11

      Like, he went from, like, a, like a, a, a skinny, a skinny kid to a man, like a just giant fucking man out of nowhere.

   7. LLLennox Lewis31:17

      Yeah. Um, the pre-, the pre-Emanuel Stewart was obviously, you know, me learning how to be a professional, learning to fight pro. And then once I got to Emanuel, w- we just like, yo, he said, "Hey, you're a great fighter. You know, you used to move around lot. You gotta bring that back." I'm like, "Okay, cool." So the movement he brought back, he taught me a couple, uh, Kronk tricks.

   8. JRJoe Rogan31:42

      Mm.

   9. LLLennox Lewis31:43

      You know, that check hook and different things that the Kronk fighters do which works well. Um, and, uh, you know, he was easy to understand and what, what I liked about him, what he said, I can do, I could accomplish. He just told me what to do, I'll do it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:58

       Yeah.

   11. LLLennox Lewis31:58

       If he said, "Lin, we need to win this round," I'll win that round.

   12. JRJoe Rogan32:01

       Mm.

   13. LLLennox Lewis32:02

       You know what I mean?

   14. JRJoe Rogan32:02

       Yeah, you had that kind of relationship, right?

   15. LLLennox Lewis32:03

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan32:04

       He was really one of the great masters. You know, there, there's, there's certain masters when it comes to, like, boxing training. Like, when you would hear him discuss fighters, like, p- I really loved hearing him do commentary as well-

   17. LLLennox Lewis32:14

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan32:15

       ... because he would discuss fighters and what they need to do, and he was always just dead on. He just knew things. He understood boxing so comprehensively. He just knew what a fighter needed to do. So I was so excited when he started working with you because I was like, "Well, that's, that's exactly what Lennox needs."

   19. LLLennox Lewis32:32

       So is HBO because, you know, it's funny. I would do fights on HBO and they would say, "Oh, he's doing this. He's not doing this. He needs to do more. He needs to throw the jab more." Then Emanuel started working for me and he's like, "Oh, he's doing the jab. He's doing well." And I was like, "Oh, this is what you need. You need a great coach-"

   20. JRJoe Rogan32:48

       (laughs)

   21. LLLennox Lewis32:48

       "... any time you're going on TV that the commentators respect, then they'll talk good about the boxer."

   22. JRJoe Rogan32:53

       Mm.

   23. LLLennox Lewis32:53

       "But if you're not a good trainer," he says, "like, what do they need to talk about?"

   24. JRJoe Rogan32:57

       They talk a lot of shit in boxing commentaries. It's very different.

   25. RPRussell Peters32:58

       Oh, yeah. They, and they, they let you know whose side they're on.

   26. JRJoe Rogan33:01

       Yeah. Yeah.

   27. GUGuest33:02

       (laughs)

   28. RPRussell Peters33:02

       They always let you know. You could tell by how, how they're guiding your brain to watch the fight.

   29. JRJoe Rogan33:07

       Well, they also, they talk a little shit. It's more like f- sports commentary. Like, uh, mixed martial arts commentary, yeah, I don't, I don't do that. I don't really-

   30. RPRussell Peters33:16

       Yeah.
8. 35:48 – 47:52

   Aging fighters, safety, and brain health: Hopkins examples and staying sharp with chess

   1. JRJoe Rogan35:48

      You know, I'll tell you what, man, one of the hardest fights for me to watch was, uh, Hopkins versus Joe Smith.

   2. RPRussell Peters35:53

      That was a, that was a bummer.

   3. JRJoe Rogan35:54

      When he got knocked out and fell out of the ropes-

   4. GUGuest35:56

      (coughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan35:56

      ... and landed on his head.

   6. RPRussell Peters35:57

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan35:57

      I was like, man, that is just ... First of all, uh, the fact that there was no padding on the ground.

   8. RPRussell Peters36:02

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan36:02

      This is, goddammit, this is Bernard Hopkins. He's one of the greatest of all time, and this is how this is set up, you know. And-

   10. LLLennox Lewis36:09

       Uh, they don't use ... They don't put padding on the ground.

   11. JRJoe Rogan36:11

       They need to have something there, like maybe more of an apron.

   12. LLLennox Lewis36:15

       No, and they need to-

   13. JRJoe Rogan36:15

       Yeah.

   14. LLLennox Lewis36:15

       No, they have to put, put-

   15. RPRussell Peters36:16

       Tables.

   16. LLLennox Lewis36:16

       They have to put more people around the ring.

   17. JRJoe Rogan36:18

       Right. Right.

   18. LLLennox Lewis36:18

       So anybody's comes flying out, it's like, "Yo."

   19. JRJoe Rogan36:20

       Yeah. Well, that's how they do it in Japan.

   20. LLLennox Lewis36:22

       Yeah?

   21. JRJoe Rogan36:22

       Like in Pride, they would have guys, like, waiting by the side of the ring to, to stop guys from falling out of the ring. 'Cause they would use rings, which I don't recommend, for MMA.

   22. LLLennox Lewis36:30

       Mm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan36:30

       There's, there's pros and cons. The, the pro is that the, the cage, the cage kind of ... Like, you can kinda hold a guy against the cage.

   24. LLLennox Lewis36:38

       Against the cage, yeah. Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan36:39

       You can't really hold a guy very well against, uh, against ropes. Here it is right here. See, he-I mean, like, he fell, boom-

   26. RPRussell Peters36:47

       Oh.

   27. JRJoe Rogan36:47

       ... like right on his head, man. I mean, I think that's concrete.

   28. RPRussell Peters36:50

       Yeah, it is.

   29. JRJoe Rogan36:50

       He went through-

   30. RPRussell Peters36:52

       And if somebody helps you up-
9. 47:52 – 1:03:39

   Pool table talk, yoga injuries, sauna/heat science, and float tank debate

   1. RPRussell Peters47:52

      Later, just so people know, um-

   2. LLLennox Lewis47:54

      Don't, don't challenge anybody on their own table.

   3. RPRussell Peters47:56

      Lennox challenged Joe-

   4. LLLennox Lewis47:57

      (laughs)

   5. RPRussell Peters47:57

      ... to a game of pool before the podcast and Joe fucking cleared the table before Lennox could get one shot off. (laughs)

   6. LLLennox Lewis48:03

      Yeah, it was... it was good. It was... Uh, that was the warmup. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan48:06

      Well, I won the second game too, so... (laughs)

   8. RPRussell Peters48:08

      Yeah, he did win the second game as well, but-

   9. LLLennox Lewis48:09

      I'm still warming up.

   10. JRJoe Rogan48:11

       All right, we'll back after-

   11. RPRussell Peters48:12

       He's got, uh... He's got time deficit.

   12. JRJoe Rogan48:14

       That's a crazy game, though, on that table because that table has four-inch pockets.

   13. LLLennox Lewis48:18

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan48:19

       That's, that's my practice table.

   15. RPRussell Peters48:20

       I showed you a four-inch pocket.

   16. JRJoe Rogan48:21

       Hey.

   17. RPRussell Peters48:22

       Wait a minute.

   18. JRJoe Rogan48:22

       Whoa.

   19. LLLennox Lewis48:23

       (laughs)

   20. RPRussell Peters48:23

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan48:23

       Where are you putting it? Uh, I have a regular table at home... Well, not a regular table, it's a diamond, it's got four and a half inch pockets, so it's still a little ti-... A normal po- po-... Like, if you go to a pool hall, they'll give you a five-inch pocket or a five and a half inch pocket.

   22. RPRussell Peters48:36

       Yeah, I got a pool table at home-

   23. JRJoe Rogan48:36

       Much different.

   24. RPRussell Peters48:37

       ... it's got fucking-

   25. JRJoe Rogan48:38

       Buckets.

   26. RPRussell Peters48:38

       I got up... the abyss.

   27. JRJoe Rogan48:40

       Yeah.

   28. RPRussell Peters48:40

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan48:40

       This table you can't miss and it's, it's dirty right now too, so it's, it's even... it's even like the, the cloth is slow so balls don't drop unless they go right through the center.

   30. LLLennox Lewis48:50

       What type of cloth is that?

Episode duration: 2:24:29