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Joe Rogan Experience #1522 - Rob Lowe

Rob Lowe is an actor, producer, and director. His new podcast "Literally! with Rob Lowe" is now available on Apple Podcasts.

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Aug 7, 20202h 52mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:002:02

    Lockdown life, masks, and restarting TV production safely

    1. JR

      Oh. Oh, Rob Lowe. Here we go.

    2. RL

      Here we are.

    3. JR

      What's up, man?

    4. RL

      It's good to be ... I was just saying, it's good to be in, like, a proper studio and, uh ...

    5. JR

      Have you been completely locked down the entire time?

    6. RL

      Completely.

    7. JR

      It's outrageous. We're five months in now.

    8. RL

      Uh, when does it-

    9. JR

      Who would have ever thought this?

    10. RL

      It r- and, and it, if you'd have said this is what 2020's gonna have, I mean, you wouldn't have left the New Year's party.

    11. JR

      You would've never believed it.

    12. RL

      No.

    13. JR

      You would've gone, "How does this happen? Like, is there a war? Like, what, what happens? What takes place?"

    14. RL

      And it's funny how easily, not easily, but like, that it's just, "Yeah, no, this is what we're dealing with." I mean, I guess everybody, y- one has to adapt, so that's the good news, I guess.

    15. JR

      Have you been going to restaurants at all?

    16. RL

      Um, I've been to probab- I've gone out to a restaurant maybe three times.

    17. JR

      It's, have you gone to the ones where they wear the mask and then the shield over their face as well?

    18. RL

      Yeah, it's like they're gonna do welding in the kitchen.

    19. JR

      (laughs) It's so strange.

    20. RL

      It's ...

    21. JR

      But it's better than nothing, so you just sort of adapt.

    22. RL

      I know. I mean, uh, I, who knows when it'll ... I mean, at least some people feel like they're going back to work. I mean ...

    23. JR

      Yes.

    24. RL

      I think we're gonna go back on my show, on, on 9-1-1 Lone Star, pre-production in, on the 17th.

    25. JR

      Now, how will they do that?

    26. RL

      Well, that's the thing, is that's a big show. I mean, it's n- it's not, you know, a game show.

    27. JR

      Right.

    28. RL

      It's like, you know, it's adventurers and rescues and pyrotechnics and stunt people. It's just huge in scope, so it, it really is the thing, if we can pull that off, that'll be, that'll be good. But I think the plan is ... Well, one thing that's interesting is just how you run a set is gonna change, they tell me. So you'll come in in the morning. Everybody will get tested. And then everybody's segregated, so i- you go to the set, and the director and the actors will rehearse. That's it, nobody else there. Then they leave, have to leave, and then the, the lighting crew will come in, and they light alone, just the lighting crew, and then they leave. And then the sort of, uh, you know, the, the w- all the production teams get their moment to do what they need to do, but they're doing it alone.

  2. 2:025:14

    Testing logistics and the "we need fast tests" problem

    1. JR

      Well, they have a test now that the White House is using, and, uh, it takes 20 minutes. It's an actual test. You go there, so you, you could find instantaneously. See, what ... We're, we're doing one here, the one that you got, is an antibody test. That takes 10 minutes, and it shows active antibodies, which means you got the disease five, six days ago or whatever, and your body's fighting it off. It's currently in your system. And it also shows another indicator whether or not you've fought it off a long time ago.

    2. RL

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JR

      And then there's the swab. The swab takes 24 to 48 hours, depending on the lab, and then there's real worry and concern, like are you contagious during that time? Like, if you just got it today, can you give it to someone today? They don't know. So until this thing happens with the White House, the 20-minute one that they have, until that's, like, nationwide, we're fucked, you know?

    4. RL

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      We're kinda, we're in a weird situation where everybody has to be really careful.

    6. RL

      Yeah. And, you know, it's funny. I ... It's funny, uh, I have no issue wearing masks. I, I don't really get that, that, that thing that people ... I mean, I get the free- the, uh, the freedom.

    7. JR

      It's definitely better than not going out.

    8. RL

      Yeah. And listen, I mean, I, I feel s- way safer wearing it, way safer. And, you know, celebrities should be thrilled to wear masks.

    9. JR

      Yeah, right. You can hide.

    10. RL

      I mean, you know, listen, now Leonardo DiCaprio can go out completely, you know, with even better disguises.

    11. JR

      (laughs) You'd be amazed at how much people d- recognize you, though, even with a mask on, especially as soon as you start talking. They'll, they'll recognize you.

    12. RL

      Well, in particular for you, your voice.

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. RL

      Everybody knows your voice, so you can't get in an ele- you know.

    15. JR

      But I'm a fan of the bandana. I like feeling like a bandit.

    16. RL

      But doesn't the, all the bad shit come underneath the bandana?

    17. JR

      I don't think-

    18. RL

      You gonna be sealed at the bottom?

    19. JR

      ... a bandana, I do not think, is for you. I think it's for other people.

    20. RL

      No.

    21. JR

      And then the droplets, if you're getting droplets, I don't th- think you're swooping them under. I think you are breathing it through. What am I, a doctor?

    22. RL

      I know, but you're sounding good. You're like ... Y- and you know, you're, you're ...

    23. JR

      Thank you, thank you.

    24. RL

      ... the Fauci of, uh, of The Ring.

    25. JR

      Thank you. Um ...

    26. RL

      The Fauci of the Octagon.

    27. JR

      I don't have one of those N95 masks, though. Have you, do you?

    28. RL

      I have hundreds of them.

    29. JR

      Do you? Oh, they're-

    30. RL

      Hundreds.

  3. 5:145:42

    Sports bubbles, fake crowd noise, and why authenticity matters

    1. RL

      Here's what I don't understand. So the, uh, the, uh, NBA is doing the bubble thing, right?

    2. JR

      Right.

    3. RL

      Where they all live, like, in, like, uh, like a c- like a commune, right?

    4. JR

      Right. (laughs)

    5. RL

      A glorified, you know, Disney-esque commune.

    6. JR

      Right.

    7. RL

      But the NFL isn't gonna do it, apparently.

    8. JR

      Mm. Yeah, it's too hard to get the hoes in there.

    9. RL

      I was thinking, you know, chicken wing.

    10. JR

      True.

    11. RL

      It's hard to g- you, when you want those ch- chicken wings-

    12. JR

      Yes.

    13. RL

      ... and you've gotta go out to get them-

    14. JR

      Yes.

    15. RL

      ... what are you gonna do?

    16. JR

      Yeah, you gotta, whatever you want, if you need something-

    17. RL

      What ch- which, which one you wanna do?

    18. JR

      ... which is very difficult, are you keeping contact with other folks?

  4. 5:429:21

    Car culture: fake engine noise, Teslas, and luxury upgrades

    1. RL

      Are you, are you a fan of the b- of the baseball with the crowd noise?

    2. JR

      Um ...

    3. RL

      Piped in crowd noise?

    4. JR

      N- no. I'm not a fan of fake noise. I, I hate that some cars do that. You know, some cars with turbocharge engines, they, they, uh, they put fake engine noise through the speakers.

    5. RL

      Oh, Jesus.

    6. JR

      Exactly.

    7. RL

      I never knew that.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. RL

      I'm so-

    10. JR

      Well ...

    11. RL

      ... all my illusions are shattered.

    12. JR

      I think BMW does it.... yeah, I'm sorry to say.

    13. RL

      No.

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. RL

      W- w- w- w- what?

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. RL

      Are the speakers on the outside of the car or are they on the inside?

    18. JR

      Oh, the speakers, it's through the stereo speakers.

    19. RL

      Even if the speaker's turned off?

    20. JR

      Yeah. It's an option that you have to turn off. You have to go into the settings and turn off. See if you can find that. Um-

    21. RL

      Oh, no.

    22. JR

      Yeah. It's like-

    23. RL

      I have a BMW.

    24. JR

      I know.

    25. RL

      And it's outside.

    26. JR

      That's why I said it. (laughs) It's like-

    27. RL

      And-

    28. JR

      ... it's enhanced sound. Maybe it's not for your model. I'm pretty sure they do it for the M4, though.

    29. RL

      (gasps)

    30. JR

      Yeah. It's one of the primary complaints of legitimate automo, uh, journalists. The, the r- the real automobile enthusiasts hate it.

  5. 9:2115:56

    EarthRoamers, apocalypse planning, and surviving disasters

    1. JR

      What I've been looking at lately is EarthRoamers. Do you know what an EarthRoamer is?

    2. RL

      An EarthRoamer?

    3. JR

      Yes. I have been, uh ... I've been an apocalypse guy for quite a while. I've worried-

    4. RL

      Oh, so you're, you're in your, all your glory.

    5. JR

      I have a, uh-

    6. RL

      This is your I told you so moment.

    7. JR

      Y- ... Well, not necessarily. I'm not like a prepper or anything like that, but I'm like, "If the shit hits the fan-"

    8. RL

      Wait, whoa, whoa. What's the difference between a prepper-

    9. JR

      I don't have enough food.

    10. RL

      Okay, got it.

    11. JR

      But I do ... I have, I have a free- ... I have freezers filled with elk meat and stuff like that.

    12. RL

      Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      So I kind of have enough food, but if the power goes out, I'm kinda fucked. That's an EarthRoamer. Those motherfuckers you can live in, and they can drive like 1,000 miles plus, and-

    14. RL

      Wow. Look at that.

    15. JR

      Yeah, and they do the interior at ... Well, there's different scales, but some of them go up to like $1.5 million, and the interior's insanity.

    16. RL

      An EarthRoamer?

    17. JR

      Yes.

    18. RL

      I have t- ... I'm taking n-

    19. JR

      EarthRoamer.

    20. RL

      Okay, I'm taking notes.

    21. JR

      Yeah, the thing about these is-

    22. RL

      I liter- ... I am literally taking notes.

    23. JR

      ... you can go anywhere with these. They also have, uh, an air suspension that will automatically level your vehicle. So like, say if you're on some fucked up, like, kind of terrain that's not level, it'll level it out so you can sleep well. The interior is like the interior of a really nice tour bus, television, satellite radio, audio, internet.

    24. RL

      Who makes ... I mean-

    25. JR

      It's a company.

    26. RL

      It's literally just EarthRoamer.

    27. JR

      They're called EarthRoamer, yeah.

    28. RL

      They make the whole thing?

    29. JR

      They start ... The base is a very large Ford pickup truck. They take like a huge diesel pickup truck, and then they put this insane cabin in the back of it, and there's a bunch of different levels that they do it. You know, you have like a reasonable level for like one person-

    30. RL

      Yeah.

  6. 15:5619:56

    Pandemic as a wake-up call: supervolcanoes, asteroids, and ancient cataclysms

    1. JR

      Well, one thing that this pandemic taught a lot of people is that what you think of as being static and unchanging, that, uh, the world that we live in is basically pretty stable, it's not. A s- a small event, and it's not small, but a virus that kills less than 1% of the population can completely obliterate the world as you know it. And that's minor in comparison to a solar flare or an asteroid impact or a super volcano. Like, if Yellowstone goes, that's the real concern.

    2. RL

      And that's another thing. I used to think, "Ah, that's... Yeah, that's my, uh, that- that's the stuff I watch at night by the fireplace. It's my ancient alien shit. That's not really happening."

    3. JR

      (laughs)

    4. RL

      And now, based on what I've- I've experienced, I... Anything could happen.

    5. JR

      Well, Yellowstone definitely could go. They say it goes every 6 to 800,000 years, and the last time it went was more than 600,000 years ago.

    6. RL

      Can you imagine?

    7. JR

      It would obliterate everybody on the continent. There'd be no one left. The- the people in like maybe Africa, some in New Zealand, some people would survive, but they would experience nuclear winter. So, crops would die off. The temperature would radically reduce. The entire sky would be filled with ash. It's a super volcano. You know, those caldera super volcanoes, they've- they've exploded throughout history and killed massive, massive numbers of human beings. Like, they think that there was one in Indonesia somewhere around 60 to 70,000 years ago that killed off most of the population of the world and left as few as 7,000 human beings.

    8. RL

      Really?

    9. JR

      Yeah. That's just 70,000 years ago.

    10. RL

      Well, you've had like, like Graham Hitchcock and people on.

    11. JR

      Graham Hancock, yeah.

    12. RL

      Hancock, right?

    13. JR

      Yeah, and- and Randall Carlson.

    14. RL

      A- and that... Is that part-

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. RL

      ... of that narrative, too?

    17. JR

      Well, cert- well, you know, they- they've concentrated on asteroid impacts and particularly the asteroid impacts that are proven now that they believe ended the Ice Age, and they also believe restarted civilization-

    18. RL

      Right.

    19. JR

      ... because they think that there was some incredibly complex civilizations that we're not re- totally aware of, other than some of the structures they left behind.... like Gobekli Tepe and some of the ancient Egyptian structures. But there's a clear indication that something happened both from an archaeological perspective and also from, um, a geologist's perspective. When they do these core samples, they find that somewhere around between, you know, somewhere in the tw- 12,000 years ago range, there was a massive impact because ... And in all over the world. Because they find this tritan- tritanite, um, which is this nuclear glass everywhere. They also find iridium, which is really common in space but not, not very common on Earth.

    20. RL

      And it's a level they see in the-

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. RL

      ... in this core samples.

    23. JR

      Yeah, it's like ... It's a very s- it's a very, um, consistent level. And they find that nuclear glass. That's the same glass like when the Trinity project, when they, they first blew up the first nuclear bomb, that's the fir- one of the things that they found-

    24. RL

      Hmm.

    25. JR

      ... was this nuclear glass. And it's just this incredible force causes the sand to turn into glass. And they find this all over the world at around 12,000 years. So it's ... And there's also, there's, you know, there, there's a, a lot of awareness today of all the near-Earth objects and when Earth in its, uh, in its orbit comes in contact with these consistent near-Earth objects, and that something probably hit Earth in m- multiple places m- like m- more than one object somewhere in that range and ended the Ice Age. They think it happened twice. The, the speculation is it happened somewhere around 12,000 and maybe again somewhere around 10,000 years ago.

    26. RL

      That's a-

    27. JR

      It's crazy.

    28. RL

      It is crazy. I love all that stuff. I, I live for that shit.

    29. JR

      I love it too. I'd live for it, but I don't because I don't want it to happen again.

    30. RL

      No.

  7. 19:5622:37

    Aging, longevity, and Rob’s sobriety mindset

    1. JR

      Yeah, that's terrifying. It's just, we're so vulnerable. I mean, we're vulnerable period, right? I mean, I'm 52. How old are you now?

    2. RL

      56.

    3. JR

      You'll look great.

    4. RL

      Thank you. You too, Rob Lowe.

    5. JR

      You look great.

    6. RL

      You too.

    7. JR

      Uh, but we're almost dead, let's be honest.

    8. RL

      Let's ... I mean, how much time we got left if everything goes great? No, no, we're gonna live forever. We're gonna, we're gonna have that pill-

    9. JR

      (laughs)

    10. RL

      ... that they're gonna, it's gonna be announced next week. That-

    11. JR

      That might be the worst thing that could happen, like you might wanna go qu- p- you know, quietly in your sleep rather than li- live for 500 years and see the, the horrors that humanity turns into.

    12. RL

      I don't want- I ... That too. And I don't wanna, like, if my body breaks down, I'm not ... I'm so physical, I love, I love doing my stuff. I, I, I don't think I'd be one of those people like, "You know what? His mind is so sharp though."

    13. JR

      (laughs)

    14. RL

      It's like, well, fuck. That's great. Meanwhile, like, I can't fucking walk.

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. RL

      You can't, you know? It's like, I wanna be able to do my, my thang.

    17. JR

      Yes. Yes. Well, do you-

    18. RL

      I mean, I want ... Listen, I want a sharp mind. Let's, let's-

    19. JR

      For sure.

    20. RL

      ... stipulate that, but yeah.

    21. JR

      What do you, what do you do to maintain yourself? What do you do to keep the machine working?

    22. RL

      Well, the number one thing was, you know, I, I s- I stopped drinking years and years and years ago. You know, I'm been-

    23. JR

      How many years?

    24. RL

      30.

    25. JR

      Oh, so you got way ahead of the game.

    26. RL

      So I'm way, I'm way ahead a- I'm way ahead. So I don't do any of that. Um ...

    27. JR

      Wow, that's, that's a, that's a lot of discipline.

    28. RL

      It's ... But it's not though, because the minute-

    29. JR

      No?

    30. RL

      ... you realize your discipline has nothing to do with it, that's the only way you can do it.

  8. 22:3726:05

    Fame, privacy, and the modern era of judgment and cancel culture

    1. JR

      Well, it had to be hard to be a young really famous, really good-looking guy during the age of no internet. And, you know, the world was a wild place. I mean, you were really famous in the '80s.

    2. RL

      I wouldn't, I wouldn't trade it for anything. I mean, I, it, you know, all of the, look, all of the mistakes that I made, all the things that I learned got me to where I am today, and, and I'm ... could not be happier, and I needed, I needed some fucking comeuppance, and I needed some of that humbling and stuff. On the other side of it is like, what's the point of being fucking famous today?

    3. JR

      (laughs) It's true.

    4. RL

      Really, I don't know if there's a point.

    5. JR

      It's not dangerous. (laughs) I know, right?

    6. RL

      I, I, I don't know. I mean, forget the lack of privacy, the lack of like crazy fun, which you can't have.

    7. JR

      Right.

    8. RL

      Um, everybody's lying in wait.

    9. JR

      I saw an article written about Leonardo DiCaprio, and it was just about how he dates young girls and how gross it is that he's dating girls 25. Like, 25's a woman, you fuck.

    10. RL

      I ... Right.

    11. JR

      Like, what, what is wrong? He's a good-looking man, he's f- wealthy and happy and successful. Oh my God, he dates someone who's young and vibrant. There must be something wrong with him. Meanwhile, if a woman does it, nobody gives a shit, they celebrate her. You go, Kate Beckinsale. You go take those 21-year-olds down.

    12. RL

      That's right.

    13. JR

      Rope them, wrangle them, ride them.

    14. RL

      Rope, rope them and go.

    15. JR

      And then send them off. Kick them in the ass and pack their lunch and send them o- send them off.

    16. RL

      It should be, it should be equal opportunity everywhere.

    17. JR

      It's not though.

    18. RL

      Right?

    19. JR

      They, they ... When, when it's a woman, they look at it like she's just, she's doing her thing, she's having a good time. But a man, it's like, he's abusing his power.

    20. RL

      It's-

    21. JR

      That Leonardo has power over those young ladies.

    22. RL

      I figure like if you're, if you're, you know, Leo or Bieber or any of those like young, like, you know, like th- this is like what you-

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. RL

      ... part of coming of age.

    25. JR

      Yes.

    26. RL

      ... is figuring, is figuring out what you want in life. And, you know, when you do that, you're gonna do weird shit, good shit, bad shit.

    27. JR

      Well, that's... You know, when ev- everybody would... If anybody would try to judge someone like that, like B- Bieber in particular, right? Because he was really, really young when he got famous. I mean, it's insane.

    28. RL

      Yeah. And you know that whole thing that, that theory that, uh, whatever, however old you are when you get famous, that, that f- like, freezes you in carbonite, emotionally-

    29. JR

      Hmm.

    30. RL

      ... and, and, and intellectually.

  9. 26:0532:09

    SNL behind the scenes: pressure, competition, and live-wire moments

    1. RL

      (laughs)

    2. JR

      "I've seen you in movies." But I'm more normal with it than when I was young. When I was young and I would meet... Like, I remember the first time I was on the set of News Radio and I met Phil Hartman.

    3. RL

      Oh.

    4. JR

      I was so weirded out. I was like, "He's right there. This is great." 'Cause I hadn't met a lot of famous people back then, only, like, a small handful. And so to be, like, working with him and sit- ... and he's sitting there. I'm like, "I've seen you on TV. I've seen you in the movies."

    5. RL

      By the way, how, how great was Phil?

    6. JR

      He was amazing.

    7. RL

      He was ... I had my scariest ... One of my scariest professional moments involved Phil Hartman. I was, uh, I was hosting the show on Saturday Night Live, and Phil in- ... Phil had a character called Mace that he did, reoccurring character. And Mace was a hard-bitten convict, uh, and he lived in a ... yeah, because he was serving life. And, uh, so whenever they had, like, you know, pretty boy hosts, they would throw, of course, me into a cell with Mace. "Hey, turn around there, chicken legs." (laughs)

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. RL

      You know, so that was, that was, like, the predicate of the ... Uh, and, and I r- ... I just remember, apropos of nothing, it was the week that the lambada dance was a big deal.

    10. JR

      Oh, Jesus.

    11. RL

      That tells you how long ago it was.

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. RL

      And so-

    14. JR

      I forgot about that.

    15. RL

      Yeah. So, so Mace and I were doing the lambada in a prison cell. And, uh, the whole sketch built towards, um, a, a, uh, a, a punchline. And for whatever reason, I blew the setup line. Like, bl- like, blew, blew it. Like, there's no, there's now no end.

    16. JR

      There you go. There we go.

    17. RL

      Oh, look. There we go.

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. RL

      Look at him. "Hey, look at you, chicken legs."

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. RL

      And, um, and so there was no ... So I had to ad lib something really, really, really, really quickly. It felt like time stretched out, and his eyes got huge. And I, I ad lips- libbed something and it worked, and it got a really big laugh. And I think that, um, that's when, what sort of sealed my relationship with Lorne Michaels, 'cause I was able to ... Uh, he came back backstage and was like, "Hmm, you're really Houdini, aren't you?"

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. RL

      (laughs)

    24. JR

      That's gotta be terrifying to do that show, to do it live.

    25. RL

      It's the best.

    26. JR

      Oh.

    27. RL

      If I coulda, if I could've been on Not Ready for PrimeTime Player, I would've. I mean, that would've been a d- the dream. I think that's the dream.

    28. JR

      How much preparation do you, do you have to do for that show? Like, how many times do you rehearse one of those sketches?

    29. RL

      Well, being a h- ... What people f- don't really realize about being a host is it's y- the host's show. Like, you can take as much control over it as you want, and most people don't. Um, I, I f- just being stupid and naive, did, and always did, and sat in on the writers all, all night, write all night with all the different writers, going from room to room. It was like fucking heaven. What I-

    30. JR

      Oh, wow.

  10. 32:0940:23

    Early career reality: TV ratings then vs. now, and baffling network decisions

    1. RL

      It's... I, um, I did a sitcom when I was little, like, when I was 15. It was, it was, um, it was so long ago that there were only 62 shows on television, period.

    2. JR

      Holy shit.

    3. RL

      62. That was as... Not channel-

    4. JR

      So this is, like, 20 Fox.

    5. RL

      Not, not 62 channels.

    6. JR

      62 shows.

    7. RL

      62 shows. By the way, h- how do you think I remember that there were 6... 'Cause we were number 62.

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. RL

      We were, we were literally the lowest-rated show on television.

    10. JR

      What was it called?

    11. RL

      Uh, A New Kind of Family. Might've had something to do with that exciting title. That makes you just sit-

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. RL

      I just sit up and take notice, don't you? A New Ki-... "W- what kind of family is it?" "It's a new kind." "Oh, well, I'm gonna watch then."

    14. JR

      What, what did they mean by it, "a new kind"?

    15. RL

      It was a r- a revolutionary concept at the time, that it was two divorced women pooling their resources.

    16. JR

      There you go. Look at you.

    17. RL

      And, uh, I-

    18. JR

      (coughs)

    19. RL

      I'm sprouting a wonderful Karen Carpenter look.

    20. JR

      Look at that hair, bro.

    21. RL

      It's Karen Carpenter.

    22. JR

      Look at the wings.

    23. RL

      I know.

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. RL

      Um-

    26. JR

      Was this your first acting project on television?

    27. RL

      Yeah, I was 15.

    28. JR

      Wow.

    29. RL

      And, um-

    30. JR

      So you were... You never had a normal life.

  11. 40:2353:42

    Tommy Boy memories: Farley’s talent, Bo Derek stories, and the cost of demons

    1. JR

      Massive. Mass- I just watched it. (coughs) I told you, um, my, me and my family watched Tommy Boy.

    2. RL

      No.

    3. JR

      Yes, see we did.

    4. RL

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      We went on, uh, we were doing family movie night because of the quarantine. We watched like almost every night we watched a new movie. I watched all the Adam Sandler movies, watched a shitload of Eddie Murphy movies. We watched The Mummy, wa- watched a couple of The Mummies, and we watched Tommy Boy.

    6. RL

      How did ha- how did Tommy Boy sta- stand up?

    7. JR

      Fucking holds up.

    8. RL

      Does it?

    9. JR

      Holds up. Funny movie, man. Funny movie.

    10. RL

      Oh, that's awesome.

    11. JR

      Goddamn Chris Farley was good.

    12. RL

      Oh, bro.

    13. JR

      (sighs)

    14. RL

      He was an, and a great actor. My, my, uh, among all my regrets about Chris's passing was where he would have gone as a, as a, as a, as an actor, 'cause he was cu- And, and Spade, Spade's the same. Their acting in that movie, forget the funny, which is great, but like their like legitimate acting moments in that movie.

    15. JR

      Yes. Yeah.

    16. RL

      And, and I think that's why it, it has the, the st- the staying power. But Chris was really gonna develop into a, into a real serious actor. A good, a good one I think.

    17. JR

      He was such a fucking powerhouse. When he would go ape shit, look at you guys.

    18. RL

      Look at those two idiots.

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. RL

      Just two... I like what in the, the part in the movie (laughs) where, where Spade looks at me and goes, "Hey, Lee Harvey," 'cause I do, my hair does look like Lee Harvey Oswald's.

    21. JR

      (laughs)

    22. RL

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      He was awesome, man.

    24. RL

      That's the cow tipping scene which, um, I was, uh, I pitched to the writers. They'd never heard of it, and it made it into the movie. It's a-

    25. JR

      Who was your mom/girlfriend again?

    26. RL

      Bo Derek.

    27. JR

      That's right.

    28. RL

      Well, that was a great thing 'cause we, we, um, you know, she had Bo Derek and her husband John, famous John Derek, was very protective of her. And she hadn't worked in a long time. And, um, he made her cut all her hair off the day before she showed up on the set of Tommy Boy, so-

    29. JR

      What?

    30. RL

      We, we thought we were getting Bo Derek from, from 10 with the hair, and she showed up with hair that's basically my he- my length now 'cause, 'cause John made her do it.

  12. 53:4256:42

    SpaceX vs. the past, secret space program speculation, and cigar-fueled curiosity

    1. RL

      And, um, one of the things I love about ... 'Cause I'm doing my own now and I'm learning from the best, and the best would be you, is it's just literally anything and everything that makes y- you, like you're curious about. And I love that. So I know, 'cause I've b- been paying attention. I know you're curious about space.

    2. JR

      Mm.

    3. RL

      And I ... Let's talk for a minute, 'cause this week-

    4. JR

      Okay.

    5. RL

      ... Elon Musk-

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. RL

      ... he did the big th- ... And it was fun to watch. But isn't it funny how excited we all are that we just replicated something we did 50 years ago?

    8. JR

      Well, even better though. They replicated something in a much more improved way where it can actually come back and land and it's reusable. That's the difference.

    9. RL

      How ... D- don't you think though, we have to have ... There has to be a secret space program. There has to be.

    10. JR

      Do you think so?

    11. RL

      Well, here, here, here, here ... Okay. Let's just go through the logic of it.

    12. JR

      Okay. I like- (laughs)

    13. RL

      This is, this is what happens when, uh, at nighttime when I have a cigar-

    14. JR

      Are you sure you don't do drugs?

    15. RL

      I n- I know.

    16. JR

      Do you want a cigar? Do you smoke cigars?

    17. RL

      I do smoke cigars.

    18. JR

      You want one?

    19. RL

      I was gonna bring one and I forgot, but hell yeah.

    20. JR

      Oh, here we go. Beautiful. At least we can get some kind of drugs on set today.

    21. RL

      I know. Let's go. Let's fucking go. By the way, don't-

    22. JR

      Jamie's gonna turn the fan on.

    23. RL

      I enjoy watching people take drugs. I do.

    24. JR

      Do you?

    25. RL

      Yeah, because-

    26. JR

      What do you enjoy about it?

    27. RL

      I have a, I have a f- very expensive wine cellar. I don't drink.

    28. JR

      You don't drink at all? You just have the wine for other folks?

    29. RL

      For, for guests.

    30. JR

      Wow.

  13. 56:421:55:33

    Health routines: fasting, animal-based diets, fishing, and parenting pride

    1. JR

      Are you fasting right now?

    2. RL

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      What do you do, the intermittent thing?

    4. RL

      I do intermittent and then, and then I do, um, every other day, a 24-hour.

    5. JR

      Really?

    6. RL

      Which I got from Kimmel. Like, wha- like, remember that moment when all of a sudden Kimmel, like didn't look like Kimmel anymore?

    7. JR

      Yeah. Lost like 80 pounds or something crazy.

    8. RL

      Yeah, and I was like ... And I did, and like, you know, in the commercial breaks, the band's playing and people were screaming at you, "Hey, why do you look so good?" And he's like, "I don't eat every other day." I was like, "That's gotta be bo-" And went right back and I never got to like, finish the conversation with him. But, um, I've since learned about it and, and, uh, I did, I've done it and it's been great.

    9. JR

      What's the benefits?

    10. RL

      Um, honestly, I think at the end of the day, the benefit is just, it's a, just an easy way to keep the calo- calories down. But I find, um, I'm more focused and I actually have more energy.

    11. JR

      That's crazy. If you think about taking a whole day off of eating-

    12. RL

      But, here's the thing.

    13. JR

      ... every other day.

    14. RL

      Here's the thing, is it's, it sounds worse than it is, 'cause you eat dinner. So, the day goes from dinner to dinner.

    15. JR

      Right.

    16. RL

      So there's not a f- an active day that I'm not eating.

    17. JR

      Oh, okay.

    18. RL

      Does that make ... So, right, but it's still 24 hours.

    19. JR

      It's like a meal a day.

    20. RL

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      Yeah. It's a meal. That's what Jack Dorsey does. Jack Dorsey, the CEO of Twitter.

    22. RL

      Mm-hmm.

    23. JR

      He, uh, he eats one meal a day. And he said he realizes that a lot of ... That, that lighter sucks, unfortunately.

    24. RL

      Mm, mm.

    25. JR

      Do we have another lighter?

    26. RL

      No, I'm, I'm good, right?

    27. JR

      Maybe, but I don't know if it's around.

    28. RL

      Mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm. No, I'm good. We're good to go.

    29. JR

      Okay, good.

    30. RL

      This is good. I like this.

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