Joe Rogan Experience #1586 - Tony Hinchcliffe

1. 0:02 – 1:25

   Radio-voice cold open, headphone fixes, and a Texas welcome toast

   1. NANarrator0:02

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. (energetic music) Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to right now is my guest. He is the one of the hottest up and coming standup comics in the world. You might know him from the Kill Tony Podcast or numerous other things. Please welcome Tony Hinchcliffe.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe0:28

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:29

      That's my attempt at, uh, an intro.

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe0:31

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      I'm gonna do that for every episode, just introduce the people while they're right there so they have to look at me-

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe0:35

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:35

      ... and make a weird, uncomfortable moment.

   9. NANarrator0:37

      You can do the radio voice and I just leave the logo on.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Hey, I can. Very nice. All right.

   11. NANarrator0:43

       Ladies and gentlemen.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Yes. Radio voice.

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe0:47

       Do you guys have sound in your headphones?

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       You don't hear anything?

   15. NANarrator0:50

       Is it on for you?

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe0:50

       Not really.

   17. NANarrator0:51

       Oh, I turned yours down.

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe0:51

       It's like-

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Oh, crank the volume up. See the volume?

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe0:53

       Two, two, two, two, two. Okay, there it is.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       All the way.

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe0:55

       Yeah.

   23. NANarrator0:56

       There you go.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Yeah, there was some weird crackling, so we had to ... Jamie had to monkey with some things, make it happen. Hey, buddy, how you doing?

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe1:04

       Hey, good to be here. Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Welcome to Texas. You're here. Dude, we need to have a celebratory adult beverage.

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe1:08

       Okay.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       You're, uh ... You said, you said okay like you're about to get punched in the arm. (laughs)

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe1:13

       Texas whiskey. Here we go again. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       Come on, bro. This is your ... You live here now.
2. 1:25 – 2:46

   Comics migrating to Austin and Tom Segura’s brutal basketball injury

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:25

      Mm. Woo. So many things are happening, ladies and gentlemen, that we can't totally talk about yet. But things are moving. We got, we got pieces in play. We got a lot of stuff happening for standup comedy here in Austin, Texas. It's on the way, kids. Woo.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe1:44

      Very exciting stuff.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:45

      So exciting. Yeah, so, uh, Tim Dillon is, uh ... He's in. You're in. Segura's in. Segura, poor Segura. Did you see Segura broke his fucking arm-

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe1:55

      (laughs) Yeah, what happened?

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:56

      ... and blew his knee out?

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe1:57

      I don't, I don't even get it. I-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:58

      Dunking. Him and Bert were playing basketball, getting real competitive, and he was dunking, blew his patella tendon out, which is the huge tendon in the front of your knee that connects your kneecap. And then on his way down, fell and snapped his arm in half.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe2:11

      It's crazy that that would happen.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:13

      Look at that. That's his arm.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe2:13

       Obese guys dunking basketballs.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:16

       How dare you.

   12. NANarrator2:17

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       How dare you when, when he's injured.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe2:18

       I mean look at the ... Look how swollen. That's just not even swollen. That's just fat above his elbow there.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:23

       How ... So rude. So, so rude.

   16. NANarrator2:26

       I mean these guys are huge.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:27

       Look, look at that arm. That arm is fucked up. That is a giant scar. That is entire length from his elbow all the way to his shoulder. So they open you up like a fish, and then they have to put plates and shit in there and screws.

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe2:41

       Yikes.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:42

       Crazy.

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe2:43

       This is why I don't do any of that physical stuff. Stick to golf.

3. 2:46 – 5:03

   LA lockdown logic: golf closures, rapid testing, and inconsistent rules

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:46

      (laughs) Well, that was the last straw for you. They closed golf in LA.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe2:50

      Gone.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:51

      How'd they close golf?

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe2:52

      I know.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:53

      How can they close golf? There's ... That makes zero sense.

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe2:55

      There's no way anybody's caught it out there. It's impossible.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:57

      You're outside.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe2:58

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:59

      You're not anywhere near anybody.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe3:00

       Yep.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:01

       You literally ... They're over way the fuck over there.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe3:04

       Even the people that you play with, those people naturally you're going to be at least 10 feet away from them the whole time.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:10

       There's other solutions that aren't gonna cripple the economy too. Like these goddamn rapid tests are available. They're available. Tonight at the show that you and I are doing with Chappelle and Donnell Rawlings, they're going to test everyone in the whole audience. That's 300 fucking people. You telling me you can't do that at a golf course? How come we did it here? How come we just did it here? We did it with the security guys. We did it with everybody, except Jamie.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe3:34

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:34

       Well, Jamie even did it.

   16. NANarrator3:35

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:36

       Jamie found out he's got the-

   18. NANarrator3:37

       Nice.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       ... he's got them nice antibodies. Nice. You can spit in Jamie's mouth, he ain't gonna catch it.

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe3:42

       Really? Let's try it. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:46

       (laughs) The way you said that sounded so gay.

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe3:49

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       (laughs)

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe3:49

       That's the way I sound all the time with everything.

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:53

       (laughs) But it was like, "Really, let's try it," like the beginning of a porno.

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe3:56

       No hesitation.

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:57

       Yeah. So, um, yeah. I mean, their ... I don't understand their strategy. I don't understand why they think this is okay to do. I don't get it. I, I, I really don't. There's a, there's a difference in the mentality there in LA about the disease. It's that it's, it ... They're treating it like it's a monster. Whereas out here, they're treating it like it's a disease. Like out here they're treating it like it's a bad flu. They're treating it like, like what the statistics and what the, you know, what, what the, the, the data shows. It's not good if you catch it. It's not good. But if you're young and you're healthy and you take care of yourself, and then the deaths are much lower than they've been before because they know how to treat it better. The treatments are available. They're better. I just don't ... Look, I don't think it's something that I wanna catch. I don't think it's something that you should catch. It's not good. I think you should take precautions. But you can do that and still open up businesses and you gotta give people the opportunity to do what they wanna do. You gotta give people the, the, the chance to make up their own mind, make up their own decisions. And for whatever reason, LA does not wanna do that.

4. 5:03 – 9:46

   LA case demographics, ‘Latinx’ backlash, and vitamin D hypotheses

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe5:03

      100%. It's so, it's so shocking what's going on there. And, you know, from some of my own research, which is crazy that-

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:11

      You do research?

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe5:12

      I'm the one researching it. Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:13

      You do, you doing science?

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe5:14

      A little bit.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:15

      (laughs)

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe5:15

      I get stoned and go to the CDC, uh, website and look into these things. And one of the main things is that it's not even hitting the areas that are completely closed. LA County is so spread, they're closing the whole thing, but so many of the cases are coming east of downtown and east of where we work and live so often. And 70% to 80% of the cases in LA are Latino people, and nobody's talking about it. And no one's-

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:47

      Well, I think it's ...

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe5:48

      ... talking directly to them about ...

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:51

       Ooh.

   11. NANarrator5:51

       That's just now. I was just typing in LA County and this was just popping up on my PC over here.

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:54

       "An alarming shift. Latinos getting coronavirus at more than double the rate of whites in LA County." By the way-Thank you, KTLA, for not saying Latinx people. Do you know who fucking hates Latinx more than anybody? Latinos. They do not like that shit. Like, d-

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe6:10

       What is that?

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:11

       It's some new nonsense woke whore shit where they're trying to n- non-gender, because it's like Latino, Latina. They're trying to take away gender from Latin people, so they're calling it Latinx.

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe6:25

       Oh, boy.

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:26

       (laughs)

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe6:27

       Oh, God.

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:27

       It's a part of the language. It's a part of Spanish.

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe6:30

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:30

       There's a way to say male and female in Spanish, Latina, Latino. I mean, this is a part of their fucking culture and it's, they're trying to erase it wi- with wokeness. Um, I wonder, uh, I think there's probably a bunch of factors, but some of them is that, uh, a lot of Latino folks tend to live with their families.

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe6:49

       Yep.

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:49

       They tend to have a lot of people under one roof. Um, and then on top of that, I would, I would imagine it's a vitamin D thing as well, because, uh, folks with darker skin, just in general, are more, uh, protected from sunlight. They're more protected from the dangers of sunlight, right, because of melanin.

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe7:07

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:08

       But because of that, it's more difficult for their body to produce vitamin D. Um, my friend Moshe, when he was a doctor in, uh, New York, he said that he would detect, uh, they would do, uh, tests on Black folks there, and they would have undetectable levels of vitamin D. He said some of them, like literally, you couldn't detect the level, it was that low. You know, he's telling these people like, "You have to take vitamin D." It's like, it's very important because, look, it's fantastic to have dark skin if you live in Africa. It protects you from, you know... You and I would be fucked.

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe7:38

       Right.

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:38

       Or you know who'd really be fucked is, like, Santino.

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe7:41

       Yeah, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:41

       He'd be fucked. He would burst into flames. I would-

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe7:43

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:43

       I would tan out, I'll tan out pretty... Everything except my vitiligo spots, I'll tan up pretty good. But Santino and, like, Louis C.K., he'll burst right into flames.
5. 9:46 – 14:24

   Stand-up desperation, open-mic origins, and a “super-spreader” living-room show

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:46

      No one's been more desperate than stand-ups looking to get on stage.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe9:49

      Gah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:49

      Do you remember when you were starting out, when you were, like, an open mic-er? And, uh, you'd go to a show, like, an open mic night and hoping you could get up and maybe you couldn't? And you'd see people get up and some of them would do well and some of them wouldn't and you'd be sitting there just dying to get up?

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe10:02

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:02

      Do you remember that feeling?

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe10:03

      Oh, yeah. I nev-

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:03

      That's a crazy feeling.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe10:05

      Yeah, I never let go of that, absolutely. Those were, I mean, uh, bicycle trips and, and bus rides and everything. I mean, those were-

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:14

      Just dying to get on stage.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe10:15

       ... crazy, crazy days. Sometimes we would wait out... I have very clear memories of me, Jamar, Jerrod, all of us waiting out on the sidewalk in... During the daytime. I mean, the sun beating down on us. We'd have to wait outside of the Improv Tuesdays at, like, 4:00 PM and we would wait two hours. That's how you got on the 6:00 PM open mic, was just by waiting outside.

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:39

       Is Jamar the most shredded standup comic ever?

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe10:41

       Yeah (laughs) . Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:42

       He might be. And somehow or another, he pulls it off. Like, goes on stage with no shirt on, just jacked.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe10:48

       And with a-

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:49

       Jacked and shredded.

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe10:50

       Yeah. And accessories go well with him, a giant chain, a mohawk for no reason.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:54

       Remember when he flew that mohawk on his head? (laughs)

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe10:57

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:58

       Isn't he t- isn't he taking an amateur fight?

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe11:01

       I think so.

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:02

       Yeah. Did he do it already? Do you know?

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe11:03

       I think so. I don't know what happened though. I'm not sure. I did a show-

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:07

       He looks like, he looks like he could fuck some people up.

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe11:09

       Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I did a show in his, uh, living room.

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:13

       No.

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe11:14

       Yeah, he did a li-

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:14

       (laughs)

   28. THTony Hinchcliffe11:14

       He started doing a living room show. I mean, you want to talk about the shadiest super-spreader thing that I've done-

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:20

       (laughs)

   30. THTony Hinchcliffe11:20

       ... during this whole time. He asked me and, you know, uh, we've been friends for what? 13 years and he never asks for anything, but he wanted me to do this show. I agreed to it. It was one of those ones where I forgot that I had it. He's like, "Hey, you still coming?" I'm like, "At my place in the afternoon?" I'm like, "Yeah, man."
6. 14:24 – 20:35

   Comedy careers and creative pivots: Jarrod Carmichael, Bobcat, and Gilbert Gottfried

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:24

      Where's Jarrod at? Where, where has he been? I haven't seen him in forever. He kinda stopped doing standup pre-pandemic. He came on this show when he did that special, he produced that special for Drew... What is his name?

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe14:37

      Michael?

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:38

      Yeah.

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe14:39

      I think.

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:40

      Hm.

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe14:40

      Drew Lynch? Drew Michael. Drew Michael, yeah, you're right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:43

      The one that he did on HBO with no audience at all, which is a, a very odd choice. But when I talked to him, he said he hadn't done standup in a year. And I was like, "I don't, that seems crazy to me. Like, for a guy who's that good."

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe14:56

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:56

      He just-

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe14:56

       Wild.

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:57

       Yeah.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe14:58

       He was one of the guys that pushed all of us, you know, him and Angelo Bowers, who was killed in a car accident a couple years into our sh- careers. Um, but those two guys, and I'm sure you had this probably when you started, it's like, those were the two guys that would kill the next day with new stuff that they didn't have the day before. We all knew what each other was writing and working on-

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       Hm.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe15:22

       ... and everything, 'cause we were all so different. And we would see each other, 'cause we were stuck performing in front of each other. That's how it starts. And, uh, he was so, so brilliant. It's interesting that, you know, I don't know, these, these, these guys like getting into other things. I just can't imagine it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       Well, it's, sometimes the thing that v- makes them brilliant is, like, they're brilliant because they have am- amazing amounts of enthusiasm about something that's new, and so then they, that something that's new is not new anymore. Then it's something they've become accustomed to. It's, uh... You know, standup comedy is a weird art form, is that you really don't get good for, like, 10 years.

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe16:02

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       You know, 10 years in is like when you really start getting good, you know. I mean, you, you can be funny, like, two years in, three years in. You, you can be funny. But, I mean, to have a real, like, crafted set, a, a solid set, it takes a long fucking time. And some people don't enjoy the grind of it, and then they'll do other things, like Jar- you know... Jarrod's very talented, very smart. Like, he can do a lot of different things if he chooses to, so I think he probably got interested in other things.

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe16:31

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:31

       You know? I mean, I know, I know he's doing television and film and he's just, probably just interested in just different ways to express creativity. Like, 'cause sometime- some people just get, they don't like one way, like, they'll just start painting. "You know, I don't want, I don't wanna do this anymore. I wanna play music. I wanna fucking make sculpture." Like, people are, and, you know, there's a purity in that, right? Like, w- you don't just wanna do what's getting you the most attention or what's getting you the most, uh, positive reinforcement. You really wanna do what you feel like doing.

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe17:02

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:02

       That's, like, real artistic expression. But most of us, when you find something that you start getting some success at, es- especially something like standup comedy that's so difficult to get good at, then once you start getting good at it, you just say, "This is what I do. I'm just gonna keep doing this." Like, I, I, I don't draw at all anymore.

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe17:21

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:21

       You know? And I used to draw all the time. I, I very rarely draw. But when I was a kid, it was my life. Like, I was always drawing. You know, I don't have other real artistic expressions.

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe17:34

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:35

       You know, just standup and that's it.

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe17:37

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:39

       But for a guy like Jarrod, maybe not good enough.

   28. THTony Hinchcliffe17:42

       Huh.

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:43

       Like, Bobcat Goldthwait started directing movies.

   30. THTony Hinchcliffe17:46

       Yeah.
7. 20:35 – 23:49

   CNN, Cuomo optics, and the politics of fear-driven coverage

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe20:35

      Again, people don't even talk about this. It's so bizarre. It's like a d- almost like a mini genocide what they did.

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:43

      Well, they didn't know any better or they didn't know what to do or... What's weird is when, like, Cuomo goes on CNN and talks to his brother, they don't even bring it up.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe20:52

      Creepy. Uh, uh, I'm gonna tell you. I'm a proud Italian guy and I can't stand those two guys. I mean, I really, really, truly dislike them, the Cuomo brothers. And I hate that people like them. "Oh, but their chemistry, they're good together." It makes me mad.

   4. JRJoe Rogan21:09

      What makes you mad about it?

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe21:11

      They just are such fake, phony, fricking, just... It just exudes fakeness to me.

   6. JRJoe Rogan21:19

      Well, if you have to be... If you're gonna be on CNN, there's a certain amount of what you do that's coordinated and programmed. It's just how it is.

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe21:29

      Look at-

   8. JRJoe Rogan21:29

      There's just a certain amount of it, you know? But, uh, it seems like, uh, Andrew is, uh, over time is having a hard time deal- dealing with, uh, questions and shit. A- M- Andrew's a big fucking guy 'cause Chris is like 6'2".

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe21:48

      Chris is the one I dislike the most.

   10. NANarrator21:50

       (clears throat)

   11. JRJoe Rogan21:50

       Yeah. Well...

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe21:51

       You know, you, you know about him going out with the coronavirus and all that, or not having it or whatever he did.

   13. JRJoe Rogan21:58

       Well, he went-

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe21:58

       But he was-

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:58

       ... to look at property that he was developing and some guy yelled at him, "You're supposed to be quarantining." He's like, "Fuck you."

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe22:04

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan22:04

       He, he... They got into it. (laughs)

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe22:07

       (laughs) 'Cause on the, on the live show he's in his basement. He got caught.

   19. JRJoe Rogan22:11

       Well, that was fake.

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe22:12

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan22:12

       Yeah. Like, "I'm finally coming out of the basement for the first time." But in his defense, that is what they would ask you to do. They would make you do something like that if you want to work at CNN. Like, if you want to work... Forget CNN. If you want to work on a television show and they know that this is an opportunity to film you coming out of the basement, they go, "Come on, Chris." No, it's like, "We'll make it like it... like you're..." He's like, "I've been out of the basement the whole time!"

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe22:34

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan22:36

       There he is. Ready? No? Back down again? Okay, we'll try it again. One more time. Uh, just... Uh, Chris, I'd like you to come up, but this time just a little less enthusiastic. Chris Cuomo returns to basement... from his basement quarantine.

   24. NANarrator22:49

       I don't know if I'd play the video.

   25. JRJoe Rogan22:50

       No, don't.

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe22:52

       What a doofus.

   27. JRJoe Rogan22:53

       It's f- It's so phony. He gets up there and his whole family has to play along with it, like, blech.

   28. NANarrator22:58

       There you go.

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe22:59

       Ugh.

   30. JRJoe Rogan23:00

       Oh, here it is.
8. 23:49 – 30:47

   Lockdowns vs livelihoods: restaurants collapsing, hypocrisy, and mental health fallout

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe23:49

      Yeah. It's crazy. CNN's gone haywire though, man. I mean, they are just, "Death is coming to all of us 24/7 a day no matter what is happening in the news."

   2. JRJoe Rogan24:02

      Well now, I wonder what that is. Do you think they feel r- like they have a responsibility and they have to warn people? They have to get people to... I mean, I mean, I wanna, I wanna break it down. I'd love to break it down. Like, how are most cases being caught? I know there's a bubble that you can see, and it, it infuriated, uh, my friends, uh, Janet and Evan, who, uh-... uh, the, uh, owner and chef of Felix, my favorite restaurant in LA, 'cause I, I sent it to them and you could see, like out of restaurants, it's 3% of all contracted cases came from restaurants. I'm like, "Close 'em down." Like how? Why? What are you doing? Like why would you shut down outdoor dining when just restaurants alone cause 3%, and how many of those 3% are the people that are working in the kitchen, when they're on top of each other? You know.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe24:47

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan24:47

      Like 3%? 3% is like, that's everything. Like for 3%, like what business doesn't have 3%? And then most of 'em have more, like retail and food and like, uh, gas stations. There's a lot of 'em that were higher than that.

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe25:04

      It's ridiculous. I wasn't supposed to even ... I wa- my plan was to come here in January or February, and then when I was here visiting a few weeks ago, a month ago or whatever, was when, on the last day before we left, they said they're going to re-lockdown. We had to go back into that, and it was just from then on, it was just let's go.

   6. JRJoe Rogan25:24

      They're doing stay at home?

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe25:25

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan25:26

      So what is the highway right, right now? Like when you go on the highway in LA?

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe25:29

      It's still packed.

   10. JRJoe Rogan25:31

       (laughs)

   11. THTony Hinchcliffe25:31

       I mean it's the same thing. There's nothing, nothing's changing.

   12. JRJoe Rogan25:34

       So people are like, "Fuck you."

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe25:36

       Everybody's, everybody that has ... There's still enough people that have to work, that the freeways are crazy, and those people don't live in town, you know, they live out of town, so they have to drive, and people need to go to the groceries. They're, they're so funny that they haven't figured out a way to, you know, make shopping safer, the things that people have to do, like grocery stores-

   14. JRJoe Rogan25:58

       But that's not, it's not that dangerous. Like what's so dangerous about shopping?

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe26:01

       I don't know, but I'd love to see that bubble percentage in grocery stores from people that have stayed confined and only done the absolute right thing, the necessities.

   16. JRJoe Rogan26:11

       I think the people that are getting it in grocery stores are the people that work in grocery stores. I think that's, if I had to guess. I don't have to guess, but if I'm gonna guess, that's what I would imagine. I'd imagine it's the people that work there.

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe26:22

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan26:23

       You know?

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe26:24

       Yeah. Maybe. I mean, I, I just don't know. I don't know how people are catching this thing, but it seems to mostly be, my guess, family gatherings, not taking off work when sick, when showing symptoms. You know, it affects poor people, I think, the most, that eat the worst foods, that drink the worst things, and that can't take off of work-

   20. JRJoe Rogan26:47

       Yeah.

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe26:47

       ... that are willing to work a few days sick.

   22. JRJoe Rogan26:49

       Mm-hmm.

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe26:49

       I mean that is what we're, what we're taught in Ohio, right? Just go to work.

   24. JRJoe Rogan26:55

       Yeah.

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe26:55

       Go to school. You're sick? Suck it up.

   26. JRJoe Rogan26:57

       Yep, yep.

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe26:58

       It's the American way and I think that's why it's, yeah, obviously a part of it's affecting us deeply-

   28. JRJoe Rogan27:03

       That's true like you're-

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe27:03

       ... and we're a social place.

   30. JRJoe Rogan27:05

       ... discouraged-
9. 30:47 – 1:10:45

   Training Tony’s body: testosterone talk, heavy lifting, and the ‘gain weight’ challenge

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:47

      You wanna get it thicker? You wanna get it wider?

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe30:48

      Yeah, I do.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:49

      Y- a bunch of things you gotta do.

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe30:50

      How do I do it?

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:51

      Testosterone, growth hormone, and deadlifts. You gotta do a lot of heavy lifting.

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe30:55

      Okay.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:55

      Yeah. You gotta literally change your bone structure. (metal clanks) You can get your face a little thicker.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe31:00

      Let's do it.

   9. JRJoe Rogan31:01

      Yeah. But you gotta make sure you do it the correct way. You don't wanna fuck your body up.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe31:06

       (smacks lips) What happens if, uh, if you don't do it right?

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:07

       We've talked about this before.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe31:09

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       Like you w- that you wanted to get bigger. You wanted to bulk up.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe31:11

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:11

       Let me talk to -

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe31:12

       It's really, really ... I've tried before.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       ... time.

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe31:14

       Like, I've tried actually-

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       But you haven't.

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe31:16

       ... buy-the-book weight gain things.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       Listen.

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe31:18

       Back in the day, I did.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:19

       Fuck the book.

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe31:20

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:20

       You gotta get a trainer. You have to get a trainer. You, you, there's, you don't, th- you have to get someone who's gonna show you the stuff to do and make you do the work. I know you think you do the work on your own, but you don't do the work on your own compared to if you had, like, Tony Meathead, like, reaching over, showing you how to get big.

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe31:37

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:37

       Well, y- you have to lift heavy things. There's no way around it. And that's one of the things that changes is your structure. Like, deadlifts is a big one because deadlifts forces your whole body to work, right? (metal clanks) With deadlifts, you get an over-under grip, you grab the bar, you bend down, and your whole body, ugh, ugh. I mean, it's everything. You're using your fucking biceps, using your shoulders, using your forearms, your back. Even your chest gets a workout. Your fucking legs get blown out. I mean, there's so much involved in a deadlift that it f- your body's like, "Oh, Jesus, this asshole got a job lifting heavy shit." Or, "This is-

   28. THTony Hinchcliffe32:13

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:13

       ... we have to change our body." Like, and then you have to give your body, like, no choice, right? So you have to feed it as much food as possible. You have to literally stuff yourself. You, you get sick eating a lot of food if you wanna gain weight. And you gotta lift massive amounts of weight. And you gotta do it, like, for low reps. Like, if you really wanna get bigger, you gotta lift, like, two and three repetitions. So whatever your maximum weight is, you do, like, 90% of that or 80, depending upon the-

   30. THTony Hinchcliffe32:39

       I did gain, like, eight or 10 pounds during the weight gain challenge when Jeremiah and I did that-
10. 1:10:45 – 1:13:29

    What comedy loses without crowds: live energy, Zoom stand-up, and who adapted best

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:10:45

       'Cause it's connected to the orig- 'cause it, to the second one, to the, the, the more powerful one. It's a m- a magical art form. It really is. I love it to this day. I love wa-... I, I went to see Bill Burr, um, Friday night went down to see him. Uh, I think he's in, uh, Dripping Springs, which is about... I think it was... I think that's where the outdoor arena was. But it's, um, about half hour from here or so. And I enjoyed the shit out of it. I enjoyed it. I had a great time. I was watching comedy.

    2. THTony Hinchcliffe1:11:15

       You just went and watched?

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:11:16

       Yeah, yeah. Just sat down and watched. Yeah.

    4. THTony Hinchcliffe1:11:18

       That's awesome.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:11:18

       I watched Dean. Dean had a great set.

    6. THTony Hinchcliffe1:11:20

       Oh, cool.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:11:20

       And then I watched Bill. Like, (sighs) this was fun, this was... I, I enjoyed it as an audience member.

    8. THTony Hinchcliffe1:11:26

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:11:27

       I enjoyed it as a fan of standup comedy. I'm like, "God, this is great."

    10. THTony Hinchcliffe1:11:30

        I been- I- I was watching before the Comedy Store closed again. There was a couple times where I got to really sit down and watch Don Barris through the front window. And it's like he's trying to... It's this- it's this thing that works so well. He's the king of late night at The Store. He could, he could wake the dead there at 2:30 AM, and trying to do it through a window and watching him surgically do... And by the way, I was dying. I w- (laughs) where- whereas a lot of perhaps maybe the normal people that didn't know who he was on the patio were sorta like, "What? What's this guy doing?" (laughs)

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:12:04

        (laughs)

    12. THTony Hinchcliffe1:12:04

        "Why is he talking about that? Why does he keep asking us who out there likes to fuck?" (laughs)

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:12:11

        (laughs)

    14. THTony Hinchcliffe1:12:11

        You know? And why do half the people go crazy and why do they seem like they know him anyway, but-

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:12:17

        Yeah.

    16. THTony Hinchcliffe1:12:18

        ... it was, it's- it's fun to get to watch that, but it's also, like, so sad to know that, oh my God, this guy would be having the time of his life if they would just let these people on the other side of that wall.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:12:30

        Mm-hmm.

    18. THTony Hinchcliffe1:12:30

        The difference between doing it in a window and outside with that huge disconnect, and one speaker coming from the corner, it's like...

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:12:39

        It's also you're doing it through an aquarium window.

    20. THTony Hinchcliffe1:12:41

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:12:42

        Like, what- what is that?

    22. THTony Hinchcliffe1:12:42

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:12:43

        Like, people... There's... Standup comedy, I always say, uh, when you watch it on television, it's like maybe 60% or 70% as good as it is if you're there.

    24. THTony Hinchcliffe1:12:54

        Right.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:12:54

        Is that...

    26. THTony Hinchcliffe1:12:55

        I- I- I think it's even less than that. I think.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:12:58

        Yeah. It's probably 60% I think-

    28. THTony Hinchcliffe1:13:00

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:13:00

        ... in my- my mind. When you're there, there's a magic in the room. Like, when you're there, there's a moment before a comic goes on stage when you're in the audience, and I remember this from, like, the early days when I would go to see people. Like, when I was just starting out and I'd go to see s- Sam Kinnison or Jerry Seinfeld. I- I went, I paid to see people. And I sat down in the audience. There's a moment...... like, when the audience lights dim and the spotlight comes on. You're like, "Whoa! Here we go!" And you could feel it. You feel it in the room, man.

Episode duration: 3:31:39