Joe Rogan Experience #1586 - Tony Hinchcliffe

1. 0:02 – 1:25

   Tony arrives in Austin: audio setup, whiskey toast, and teasing a new comedy hub

   1. NANarrator0:02

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. (energetic music) Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to right now is my guest. He is the one of the hottest up and coming standup comics in the world. You might know him from the Kill Tony Podcast or numerous other things. Please welcome Tony Hinchcliffe.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe0:28

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:29

      That's my attempt at, uh, an intro.

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe0:31

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      I'm gonna do that for every episode, just introduce the people while they're right there so they have to look at me-

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe0:35

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:35

      ... and make a weird, uncomfortable moment.

   9. NANarrator0:37

      You can do the radio voice and I just leave the logo on.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Hey, I can. Very nice. All right.

   11. NANarrator0:43

       Ladies and gentlemen.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Yes. Radio voice.

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe0:47

       Do you guys have sound in your headphones?

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       You don't hear anything?

   15. NANarrator0:50

       Is it on for you?

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe0:50

       Not really.

   17. NANarrator0:51

       Oh, I turned yours down.

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe0:51

       It's like-

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Oh, crank the volume up. See the volume?

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe0:53

       Two, two, two, two, two. Okay, there it is.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       All the way.

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe0:55

       Yeah.

   23. NANarrator0:56

       There you go.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Yeah, there was some weird crackling, so we had to ... Jamie had to monkey with some things, make it happen. Hey, buddy, how you doing?

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe1:04

       Hey, good to be here. Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Welcome to Texas. You're here. Dude, we need to have a celebratory adult beverage.

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe1:08

       Okay.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       You're, uh ... You said, you said okay like you're about to get punched in the arm. (laughs)

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe1:13

       Texas whiskey. Here we go again. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       Come on, bro. This is your ... You live here now.
2. 1:25 – 2:46

   Comics relocating and Tom Segura’s brutal dunk injury story

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:25

      Mm. Woo. So many things are happening, ladies and gentlemen, that we can't totally talk about yet. But things are moving. We got, we got pieces in play. We got a lot of stuff happening for standup comedy here in Austin, Texas. It's on the way, kids. Woo.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe1:44

      Very exciting stuff.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:45

      So exciting. Yeah, so, uh, Tim Dillon is, uh ... He's in. You're in. Segura's in. Segura, poor Segura. Did you see Segura broke his fucking arm-

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe1:55

      (laughs) Yeah, what happened?

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:56

      ... and blew his knee out?

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe1:57

      I don't, I don't even get it. I-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:58

      Dunking. Him and Bert were playing basketball, getting real competitive, and he was dunking, blew his patella tendon out, which is the huge tendon in the front of your knee that connects your kneecap. And then on his way down, fell and snapped his arm in half.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe2:11

      It's crazy that that would happen.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:13

      Look at that. That's his arm.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe2:13

       Obese guys dunking basketballs.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:16

       How dare you.

   12. NANarrator2:17

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       How dare you when, when he's injured.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe2:18

       I mean look at the ... Look how swollen. That's just not even swollen. That's just fat above his elbow there.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:23

       How ... So rude. So, so rude.

   16. NANarrator2:26

       I mean these guys are huge.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:27

       Look, look at that arm. That arm is fucked up. That is a giant scar. That is entire length from his elbow all the way to his shoulder. So they open you up like a fish, and then they have to put plates and shit in there and screws.

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe2:41

       Yikes.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:42

       Crazy.

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe2:43

       This is why I don't do any of that physical stuff. Stick to golf.

3. 2:46 – 5:03

   Why LA lockdown logic feels broken: closed golf, rapid tests, and risk tradeoffs

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:46

      (laughs) Well, that was the last straw for you. They closed golf in LA.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe2:50

      Gone.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:51

      How'd they close golf?

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe2:52

      I know.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:53

      How can they close golf? There's ... That makes zero sense.

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe2:55

      There's no way anybody's caught it out there. It's impossible.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:57

      You're outside.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe2:58

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:59

      You're not anywhere near anybody.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe3:00

       Yep.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:01

       You literally ... They're over way the fuck over there.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe3:04

       Even the people that you play with, those people naturally you're going to be at least 10 feet away from them the whole time.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:10

       There's other solutions that aren't gonna cripple the economy too. Like these goddamn rapid tests are available. They're available. Tonight at the show that you and I are doing with Chappelle and Donnell Rawlings, they're going to test everyone in the whole audience. That's 300 fucking people. You telling me you can't do that at a golf course? How come we did it here? How come we just did it here? We did it with the security guys. We did it with everybody, except Jamie.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe3:34

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:34

       Well, Jamie even did it.

   16. NANarrator3:35

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:36

       Jamie found out he's got the-

   18. NANarrator3:37

       Nice.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       ... he's got them nice antibodies. Nice. You can spit in Jamie's mouth, he ain't gonna catch it.

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe3:42

       Really? Let's try it. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:46

       (laughs) The way you said that sounded so gay.

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe3:49

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       (laughs)

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe3:49

       That's the way I sound all the time with everything.

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:53

       (laughs) But it was like, "Really, let's try it," like the beginning of a porno.

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe3:56

       No hesitation.

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:57

       Yeah. So, um, yeah. I mean, their ... I don't understand their strategy. I don't understand why they think this is okay to do. I don't get it. I, I, I really don't. There's a, there's a difference in the mentality there in LA about the disease. It's that it's, it ... They're treating it like it's a monster. Whereas out here, they're treating it like it's a disease. Like out here they're treating it like it's a bad flu. They're treating it like, like what the statistics and what the, you know, what, what the, the, the data shows. It's not good if you catch it. It's not good. But if you're young and you're healthy and you take care of yourself, and then the deaths are much lower than they've been before because they know how to treat it better. The treatments are available. They're better. I just don't ... Look, I don't think it's something that I wanna catch. I don't think it's something that you should catch. It's not good. I think you should take precautions. But you can do that and still open up businesses and you gotta give people the opportunity to do what they wanna do. You gotta give people the, the, the chance to make up their own mind, make up their own decisions. And for whatever reason, LA does not wanna do that.

4. 5:03 – 9:46

   LA case patterns, “Latinx” backlash, and vitamin D as a complicating factor

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe5:03

      100%. It's so, it's so shocking what's going on there. And, you know, from some of my own research, which is crazy that-

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:11

      You do research?

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe5:12

      I'm the one researching it. Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:13

      You do, you doing science?

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe5:14

      A little bit.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:15

      (laughs)

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe5:15

      I get stoned and go to the CDC, uh, website and look into these things. And one of the main things is that it's not even hitting the areas that are completely closed. LA County is so spread, they're closing the whole thing, but so many of the cases are coming east of downtown and east of where we work and live so often. And 70% to 80% of the cases in LA are Latino people, and nobody's talking about it. And no one's-

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:47

      Well, I think it's ...

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe5:48

      ... talking directly to them about ...

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:51

       Ooh.

   11. NANarrator5:51

       That's just now. I was just typing in LA County and this was just popping up on my PC over here.

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:54

       "An alarming shift. Latinos getting coronavirus at more than double the rate of whites in LA County." By the way-Thank you, KTLA, for not saying Latinx people. Do you know who fucking hates Latinx more than anybody? Latinos. They do not like that shit. Like, d-

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe6:10

       What is that?

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:11

       It's some new nonsense woke whore shit where they're trying to n- non-gender, because it's like Latino, Latina. They're trying to take away gender from Latin people, so they're calling it Latinx.

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe6:25

       Oh, boy.

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:26

       (laughs)

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe6:27

       Oh, God.

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:27

       It's a part of the language. It's a part of Spanish.

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe6:30

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:30

       There's a way to say male and female in Spanish, Latina, Latino. I mean, this is a part of their fucking culture and it's, they're trying to erase it wi- with wokeness. Um, I wonder, uh, I think there's probably a bunch of factors, but some of them is that, uh, a lot of Latino folks tend to live with their families.

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe6:49

       Yep.

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:49

       They tend to have a lot of people under one roof. Um, and then on top of that, I would, I would imagine it's a vitamin D thing as well, because, uh, folks with darker skin, just in general, are more, uh, protected from sunlight. They're more protected from the dangers of sunlight, right, because of melanin.

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe7:07

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:08

       But because of that, it's more difficult for their body to produce vitamin D. Um, my friend Moshe, when he was a doctor in, uh, New York, he said that he would detect, uh, they would do, uh, tests on Black folks there, and they would have undetectable levels of vitamin D. He said some of them, like literally, you couldn't detect the level, it was that low. You know, he's telling these people like, "You have to take vitamin D." It's like, it's very important because, look, it's fantastic to have dark skin if you live in Africa. It protects you from, you know... You and I would be fucked.

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe7:38

       Right.

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:38

       Or you know who'd really be fucked is, like, Santino.

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe7:41

       Yeah, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:41

       He'd be fucked. He would burst into flames. I would-

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe7:43

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:43

       I would tan out, I'll tan out pretty... Everything except my vitiligo spots, I'll tan up pretty good. But Santino and, like, Louis C.K., he'll burst right into flames.
5. 9:46 – 14:24

   The standup grind nostalgia: open mic lines, Jamar Neighbors, and a tiny apartment show

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:46

      No one's been more desperate than stand-ups looking to get on stage.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe9:49

      Gah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:49

      Do you remember when you were starting out, when you were, like, an open mic-er? And, uh, you'd go to a show, like, an open mic night and hoping you could get up and maybe you couldn't? And you'd see people get up and some of them would do well and some of them wouldn't and you'd be sitting there just dying to get up?

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe10:02

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:02

      Do you remember that feeling?

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe10:03

      Oh, yeah. I nev-

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:03

      That's a crazy feeling.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe10:05

      Yeah, I never let go of that, absolutely. Those were, I mean, uh, bicycle trips and, and bus rides and everything. I mean, those were-

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:14

      Just dying to get on stage.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe10:15

       ... crazy, crazy days. Sometimes we would wait out... I have very clear memories of me, Jamar, Jerrod, all of us waiting out on the sidewalk in... During the daytime. I mean, the sun beating down on us. We'd have to wait outside of the Improv Tuesdays at, like, 4:00 PM and we would wait two hours. That's how you got on the 6:00 PM open mic, was just by waiting outside.

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:39

       Is Jamar the most shredded standup comic ever?

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe10:41

       Yeah (laughs) . Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:42

       He might be. And somehow or another, he pulls it off. Like, goes on stage with no shirt on, just jacked.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe10:48

       And with a-

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:49

       Jacked and shredded.

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe10:50

       Yeah. And accessories go well with him, a giant chain, a mohawk for no reason.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:54

       Remember when he flew that mohawk on his head? (laughs)

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe10:57

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:58

       Isn't he t- isn't he taking an amateur fight?

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe11:01

       I think so.

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:02

       Yeah. Did he do it already? Do you know?

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe11:03

       I think so. I don't know what happened though. I'm not sure. I did a show-

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:07

       He looks like, he looks like he could fuck some people up.

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe11:09

       Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I did a show in his, uh, living room.

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:13

       No.

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe11:14

       Yeah, he did a li-

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:14

       (laughs)

   28. THTony Hinchcliffe11:14

       He started doing a living room show. I mean, you want to talk about the shadiest super-spreader thing that I've done-

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:20

       (laughs)

   30. THTony Hinchcliffe11:20

       ... during this whole time. He asked me and, you know, uh, we've been friends for what? 13 years and he never asks for anything, but he wanted me to do this show. I agreed to it. It was one of those ones where I forgot that I had it. He's like, "Hey, you still coming?" I'm like, "At my place in the afternoon?" I'm like, "Yeah, man."
6. 14:24 – 20:35

   When comics shift lanes: Jarrod Carmichael, Bobcat’s directing, and Gilbert Gottfried’s ‘on’ switch

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:24

      Where's Jarrod at? Where, where has he been? I haven't seen him in forever. He kinda stopped doing standup pre-pandemic. He came on this show when he did that special, he produced that special for Drew... What is his name?

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe14:37

      Michael?

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:38

      Yeah.

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe14:39

      I think.

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:40

      Hm.

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe14:40

      Drew Lynch? Drew Michael. Drew Michael, yeah, you're right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:43

      The one that he did on HBO with no audience at all, which is a, a very odd choice. But when I talked to him, he said he hadn't done standup in a year. And I was like, "I don't, that seems crazy to me. Like, for a guy who's that good."

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe14:56

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:56

      He just-

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe14:56

       Wild.

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:57

       Yeah.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe14:58

       He was one of the guys that pushed all of us, you know, him and Angelo Bowers, who was killed in a car accident a couple years into our sh- careers. Um, but those two guys, and I'm sure you had this probably when you started, it's like, those were the two guys that would kill the next day with new stuff that they didn't have the day before. We all knew what each other was writing and working on-

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       Hm.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe15:22

       ... and everything, 'cause we were all so different. And we would see each other, 'cause we were stuck performing in front of each other. That's how it starts. And, uh, he was so, so brilliant. It's interesting that, you know, I don't know, these, these, these guys like getting into other things. I just can't imagine it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       Well, it's, sometimes the thing that v- makes them brilliant is, like, they're brilliant because they have am- amazing amounts of enthusiasm about something that's new, and so then they, that something that's new is not new anymore. Then it's something they've become accustomed to. It's, uh... You know, standup comedy is a weird art form, is that you really don't get good for, like, 10 years.

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe16:02

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       You know, 10 years in is like when you really start getting good, you know. I mean, you, you can be funny, like, two years in, three years in. You, you can be funny. But, I mean, to have a real, like, crafted set, a, a solid set, it takes a long fucking time. And some people don't enjoy the grind of it, and then they'll do other things, like Jar- you know... Jarrod's very talented, very smart. Like, he can do a lot of different things if he chooses to, so I think he probably got interested in other things.

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe16:31

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:31

       You know? I mean, I know, I know he's doing television and film and he's just, probably just interested in just different ways to express creativity. Like, 'cause sometime- some people just get, they don't like one way, like, they'll just start painting. "You know, I don't want, I don't wanna do this anymore. I wanna play music. I wanna fucking make sculpture." Like, people are, and, you know, there's a purity in that, right? Like, w- you don't just wanna do what's getting you the most attention or what's getting you the most, uh, positive reinforcement. You really wanna do what you feel like doing.

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe17:02

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:02

       That's, like, real artistic expression. But most of us, when you find something that you start getting some success at, es- especially something like standup comedy that's so difficult to get good at, then once you start getting good at it, you just say, "This is what I do. I'm just gonna keep doing this." Like, I, I, I don't draw at all anymore.

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe17:21

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:21

       You know? And I used to draw all the time. I, I very rarely draw. But when I was a kid, it was my life. Like, I was always drawing. You know, I don't have other real artistic expressions.

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe17:34

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:35

       You know, just standup and that's it.

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe17:37

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:39

       But for a guy like Jarrod, maybe not good enough.

   28. THTony Hinchcliffe17:42

       Huh.

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:43

       Like, Bobcat Goldthwait started directing movies.

   30. THTony Hinchcliffe17:46

       Yeah.
7. 20:35 – 43:21

   Cuomo, CNN, and pandemic messaging as entertainment programming

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe20:35

      Again, people don't even talk about this. It's so bizarre. It's like a d- almost like a mini genocide what they did.

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:43

      Well, they didn't know any better or they didn't know what to do or... What's weird is when, like, Cuomo goes on CNN and talks to his brother, they don't even bring it up.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe20:52

      Creepy. Uh, uh, I'm gonna tell you. I'm a proud Italian guy and I can't stand those two guys. I mean, I really, really, truly dislike them, the Cuomo brothers. And I hate that people like them. "Oh, but their chemistry, they're good together." It makes me mad.

   4. JRJoe Rogan21:09

      What makes you mad about it?

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe21:11

      They just are such fake, phony, fricking, just... It just exudes fakeness to me.

   6. JRJoe Rogan21:19

      Well, if you have to be... If you're gonna be on CNN, there's a certain amount of what you do that's coordinated and programmed. It's just how it is.

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe21:29

      Look at-

   8. JRJoe Rogan21:29

      There's just a certain amount of it, you know? But, uh, it seems like, uh, Andrew is, uh, over time is having a hard time deal- dealing with, uh, questions and shit. A- M- Andrew's a big fucking guy 'cause Chris is like 6'2".

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe21:48

      Chris is the one I dislike the most.

   10. NANarrator21:50

       (clears throat)

   11. JRJoe Rogan21:50

       Yeah. Well...

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe21:51

       You know, you, you know about him going out with the coronavirus and all that, or not having it or whatever he did.

   13. JRJoe Rogan21:58

       Well, he went-

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe21:58

       But he was-

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:58

       ... to look at property that he was developing and some guy yelled at him, "You're supposed to be quarantining." He's like, "Fuck you."

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe22:04

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan22:04

       He, he... They got into it. (laughs)

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe22:07

       (laughs) 'Cause on the, on the live show he's in his basement. He got caught.

   19. JRJoe Rogan22:11

       Well, that was fake.

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe22:12

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan22:12

       Yeah. Like, "I'm finally coming out of the basement for the first time." But in his defense, that is what they would ask you to do. They would make you do something like that if you want to work at CNN. Like, if you want to work... Forget CNN. If you want to work on a television show and they know that this is an opportunity to film you coming out of the basement, they go, "Come on, Chris." No, it's like, "We'll make it like it... like you're..." He's like, "I've been out of the basement the whole time!"

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe22:34

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan22:36

       There he is. Ready? No? Back down again? Okay, we'll try it again. One more time. Uh, just... Uh, Chris, I'd like you to come up, but this time just a little less enthusiastic. Chris Cuomo returns to basement... from his basement quarantine.

   24. NANarrator22:49

       I don't know if I'd play the video.

   25. JRJoe Rogan22:50

       No, don't.

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe22:52

       What a doofus.

   27. JRJoe Rogan22:53

       It's f- It's so phony. He gets up there and his whole family has to play along with it, like, blech.

   28. NANarrator22:58

       There you go.

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe22:59

       Ugh.

   30. JRJoe Rogan23:00

       Oh, here it is.
8. 43:21 – 56:55

   Lockdown hypocrisy and the collapse of hospitality: Tony’s dad closes his restaurant

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe43:21

      I eat 100%, uh, of my meals out. I have a weird, you know, lifestyle. I don't eat at home. Um, and we made friends with some of these people these past few months, you know? I found some new restaurants and things like that, and once you make friends with them and you talk to them a bit, you end up, they end up sharing with you, like, "Oh, yeah, this, this, w- we're, you know, we're really struggling. We're on our last leg." My father, who's owned a rest- who owned a restaurant for 30 years closed it in June. It's already some other, like, corporate janky ... Someone tagged me in a picture the other day-

   2. JRJoe Rogan44:02

      Your dad in Ohio?

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe44:02

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan44:03

      Wow.

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe44:04

      Yeah, closed his Italian restaurant.

   6. JRJoe Rogan44:05

      H- how long did he own that restaurant for?

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe44:06

      Almost 30 years. It was his entire life. He would hang out with people at the bar until, at his bar until, you know, 1:00, 2:00, 3:00 AM, and he would start, uh, making the sauce and stuff at 5:00 or 6:00. He would sleep for a couple few hours and then start another day, of ... His entire everything was that. Um, and I, I have to check on him, see how he's doing, but, uh, but I can't imagine him doing anything else. I always assumed he was going to do that absolutely forever. But e- this is, this is the story for almost all restaurant owners, man. They just don't have that ... They're more like comedians or artists or something, like, they spend the money that they make, you know? It's sort of just a different ... You take care of so many people, you sort of wanna be taken care of.

   8. JRJoe Rogan44:55

      Yeah.

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe44:55

      So they like vacationing and they like doing this and they like doing that, so so many of them ... And it costs a lot of money.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:01

       And for a lot of restaurant owners, it almost is like an art form, like, uh, or almost like a source of entertainment too, because you're not just providing a, a, a delicious meal. You're also giving them a nice environment, you're welcoming them. It's ... Hospitality is a big part of it.

   11. THTony Hinchcliffe45:16

       Yeah. In so many of these places, you know? We found this one place driving around one night. Um, we drove by this, uh, Italian restaur- you know, we were starving and, like, everything was closed, closed, closed, closed, closed. It was like a Wednesday at 9:00, right? It was a long shot, and we drove by this one place and we ended up ... The kid who worked there was the grandson. The grandfather's the owner. The grandma's inside answering the phone, unloading wine or whatever. Like, you would see her if you used the restroom. My point is, like, they were, they had ... He was honest, you know? He was just ... They're just open people. Like, "Yeah, we bought these heat lamps. Uh, you know, th- this is crazy. What do we have to do?" It's like an a- it was an alleyway. And I know for a fact, even though he didn't say it, that they're n- they weren't, they just weren't having a good year, to say the least. Um, and, uh, and it's just frightening to think that all these places with all these good people in LA aren't going to have a chance at opening up after they spend money on the heat lamps, after they completely reorganize their entire structure.

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:20

       Has there, has there been any big cities that decided to try to stay open most of the pandemic? I don't think so, right? I don't think there's any big cities that are run by Republicans, are there?

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe46:34

       Uh, big cities run by Republicans.

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:38

       That are, that just left everything open, basically.

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe46:40

       Y- you mean like mayors?

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       Yeah. Like, what about Miami?

   17. GUGuest46:44

       I was just Googling ... I mean, I was like f- Miami might be open still, I don't know.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:49

       Miami, M- well, M- I think Miami, I think Florida as a whole, the governor of Florida has basically said, "Listen, the cure can't be worse than the disease."

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe46:57

       Right.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:58

       And it's killing our businesses. It's killing our people. It's ... Like, a lot of people are committing suicide. A lot of people are getting addicted to drugs. And, uh, you know, and he took a pragmatic approach. And you could disagree or, or agree, and a lot of people disagree, and I understand it. There, there is an issue, though, that a lot of people who disagree with him being able, h- him being able to do this and opening things up, they're, they're financially capable of surviving a year or even longer without work, and many of them are actually in the middle of work. And, uh, I don't wanna cast any aspers- I don't wanna cast any blame. I don't wanna, I don't wanna point any fingers. That's not what I'm trying to do. But, uh, what I wanna say is that it's really difficult to even imagine, and this is coming from someone who doesn't have to imagine this, so I know how ridiculous this sounds. But it's difficult to imagine the mindset of someone who's losing everything if you're not losing anything, if your life is basically the same. And this is the problem with some of the politicians. They, they didn't get punished financially for their city shutting down. They, they didn't get punished financially for 40% of the businesses going under. I mean, sure, it's gonna be tough for them to get reelected, but they can say, "Listen, we were in a pandemic. We did what we could. We saved lives." That'll be the, that'll be the, the propaganda. That'll be what they put, the pitch, that they saved lives by doing this. But they don't, they don't act the way a person would act if their entire life's work was on the line, like your dad and his restaurant. They don't act like that person where they find a way to keep things open and keep things reasonably safe, where they find a way, "Look, there's a, there's a better solution here. What we gotta do is, like, keep people healthier and that'll lower the numbers of cases, and then it'll also lower the severity of cases, and that'll allow us to open places up to a reasonable extent." You know? "How about we do this? How about we do that? How about ... What, what ... Is there a better way to protect people than fucking handkerchiefs?" Like, what's better, handkerchiefs or N95 masks? Can we just get everybody an N95 mask? It seems like that's a better way to go. Those fucking things, like, nothing gets through those. But handkerchiefs, you could blow ... You ever see those demonstrations people do with a handkerchief and a mask?

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe49:11

       Mm-mm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan49:12

       As a mask, rather, and they, they light a, a lighter and go (blows) and blow the lighter out? And then they do the same thing with like a cloth mask, a little more difficult. Then they go to an N95 mask and nothing happens.

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe49:23

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan49:23

       Nothing. It doesn't get out.So that thing acts as, supposedly, some sort of a filter to keep most of the viral load or whatever. I don't, I'm, I don't know. I don't know how it works. But when you look at the effectiveness of that mask, let's say that if everybody had to wear an N95 mask, it cut infections down X amount percent. Let's do that. Let's do that. And if you, if you're talking about coronavirus, uh, uh, like, in LA they were saying 3%. I think it was 3.1% was coming from restaurants. What if those people were wearing N95 masks? Would that drop that 3.1 down to nothing? Would it be one? Like is one acceptable? Where people can keep their fucking living? Like you gotta look at these people... You got... First of all, you gotta look, government's never been able to tell you you can't work. This is unprecedented. This is completely new shit. Government has never been able to tell l- it... Like, everyone in an industry. I'm in the indoor dining industry. Everyone in your industry can't work. Government has never had that kind of power. Government has never, ever in the history of the United States of America had the power to shut all the gyms down. So you can't s-... Hey, all you healthy studs-

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe50:33

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan50:33

       ... and studettes and studxes, you, you, you can't go work out. You're... It's not up to you. It's not. The people who own that business, sorry. I know you've worked your whole life, maybe you did construction for 15 years and saved up half your pay and put it all away with this dream of one day opening up this amazing gym and making your living off your own business you created yourself in the community that you live in. But no. No. The government knows better than you, and they get to decide whether or not you can work. They get to decide whether or not you take chances, whether or not you feel like you've adequately protected yourself from the virus, whether you test enough. They get to decide.

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe51:15

       And a curfew. The psychological effect of knowing... And by the way, they're not enforcing it. They're not... The cops aren't pulling you over and going, "What are you doing?" But they don't need to. The fact that you know that you're supposed to have a 10... 10:00 PM?

   28. JRJoe Rogan51:29

       Dude, you know what they should do? They should have a, a loud siren that plays throughout the city at 10:00 PM-

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe51:35

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan51:36

       ... just to freak you out, like War of Worlds style. (siren sounds)
9. 56:55 – 1:05:02

   Austin’s upside: food scene shocks, Tex-Mex debates, and Ron White’s return to the stage

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe56:55

      With that said, I am absolutely shocked at the restaurant scene here.

   2. JRJoe Rogan56:59

      They're amazing. And they're open.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe57:02

      Mind blown.

   4. JRJoe Rogan57:02

      Mind blowing.

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe57:03

      This is-

   6. JRJoe Rogan57:03

      There's so many good restaurants.

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe57:04

      We were talking about this a bit earlier, but be- better Mexican food than LA, immediately.

   8. JRJoe Rogan57:09

      It's a different style.

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe57:10

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan57:10

       It's like Tex-Mex versus Mexican, um, but, um, that's maybe my favorite food. It's-

   11. THTony Hinchcliffe57:16

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan57:17

       ... right up there. It's not-

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe57:19

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan57:19

       'Cause I love spicy, right?

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe57:20

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan57:20

       Spicy and, you know, especially if I'm drunk. If I'm drunk, I wanna go to a taqueria all day. Like, if I have a choice between... If I'm drunk, like, dr- drunk food.

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe57:30

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan57:30

       Mexican food is the best food to have-

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe57:32

       The best.

   20. JRJoe Rogan57:32

       ... after you've been drinking.

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe57:33

       And spicy, you're right. And, uh, something I was doing yesterday was spicy food with a spicy margarita, so you're trying to wash it down-

   22. JRJoe Rogan57:40

       Woo.

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe57:40

       ... and the drink sometimes is spicier than the food.

   24. JRJoe Rogan57:43

       I had a great Indian place, uh, near me in LA. I wonder if there's good Indian food out here. I haven't seen that yet.

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe57:50

       There's gotta be.

   26. JRJoe Rogan57:51

       There's good sushi here. The barbecue's off the charts.

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe57:55

       Best Japanese meal-

   28. JRJoe Rogan57:56

       Off the charts.

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe57:56

       ... I've ever had in my life, Ron White took us to.

   30. JRJoe Rogan57:58

       Oh, yeah. You tell me.
10. 1:05:02 – 1:35:07

    The magic of live comedy (and why Zoom standup dies): audience energy, craft, and Schulz’s adaptation

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:05:02

       (laughs)

    2. THTony Hinchcliffe1:05:02

       (laughs) It's like shit. And I said out loud that two nights ago, I go, "I forgot how much, I forgot again how much fun it is to hang out with comedians." Like it's just-

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:05:12

       Yeah.

    4. THTony Hinchcliffe1:05:12

       ... the store being completely closed and, you know, when-

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:05:16

       That's the hardest part, man. The hardest part is n- not being able to hang out with people who d- genuinely don't give a fuck and will say the most rude and ridiculous thing to you with a giant smile on, on their face.

    6. THTony Hinchcliffe1:05:28

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:05:28

       And then you'll laugh at that and fall to the ground. Like they could have said the worst shit about you and you'll fall down laughing like, "Ah."

    8. THTony Hinchcliffe1:05:35

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:05:36

       I mean, the conversations that we've had after shows, like on the road, just laughing and just having a good... Like everywhere we went, we were home.

    10. THTony Hinchcliffe1:05:47

        Yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:05:47

        It was weird. You know, it's weird to be in this place and that place and fly here and fly there. And you, you and me and Diaz in a hotel somewhere. But when we're together and we're all talking, like we're at home. We're-

    12. THTony Hinchcliffe1:06:00

        Without a doubt.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:06:01

        Yeah. We're just laughing and having fun. And I've met a lot of really good people, but there's a... It's not just comics that are good people. There's a lot of people that I really enjoy talking to that have nothing... They're n- there's nothing funny about them. They're never gonna be funny. They're not... They don't have any desire to be funny. Um, but to talk to comedians is a different animal. It's like there's a different element in the room. Like you're fucking with each other. You're playing off each other. You're making each other laugh.

    14. THTony Hinchcliffe1:06:34

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:06:34

        And, and you know you're also comedians. Like we're all... We're playing a game. It's like we, we get to like throw a ball around. Like, "Hey, let's go eat and throw the ball around." Like we're playing a game. We're playing a fun... Let's, let's be silly fun game.

    16. THTony Hinchcliffe1:06:47

        Yeah. And it's fun because none of my non-comedian friends almost ever, you know, try to make fun of me or shoot down a thought or anything like that. It's usually quite the opposite. And around you guys it... You guys truly don't give a fuck. So if I say something, you know, if any-

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:07:06

        (laughs) Say something ridiculous.

    18. THTony Hinchcliffe1:07:06

        Right, yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:07:07

        I can't wait for you to say something ridiculous.

    20. THTony Hinchcliffe1:07:08

        I know. (laughs)

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:07:10

        (laughs) I can't wait for you to say something dumb.

    22. THTony Hinchcliffe1:07:13

        (laughs)

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:07:13

        I'm like-

    24. THTony Hinchcliffe1:07:13

        Yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:07:13

        ... "Please say something dumb so I can attack!" (laughs)

    26. THTony Hinchcliffe1:07:16

        And to sound dumb, it's a fun feeling. It's a foreign feeling, which creates, uh, the element of surprise, which creates laughter.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:07:24

        D- I love when I- I'm dumb. I do. I love when someone calls, like, catches me doing something dumb and I can laugh at myself.

    28. THTony Hinchcliffe1:07:30

        You know what's funny is people don't even... I'm not even a pun guy. You think I'm a pun guy-

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:07:35

        (laughs)

    30. THTony Hinchcliffe1:07:35

        ... because I like (laughs) doing that dumb shit and-

Episode duration: 3:31:39