EVERY SPOKEN WORD
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Reuniting on the podcast: gifts, friendship, and Russell starts his own show
- NANarrator
(drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day.
- NANarrator
(instrumental music)
- JRJoe Rogan
Hello, Russell.
- RPRussell Peters
Hello, Joseph.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good to see you, my friend.
- RPRussell Peters
How are you, pally?
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm fucking great.
- RPRussell Peters
(clears throat) So-
- JRJoe Rogan
Better now that you're here.
- RPRussell Peters
I know. I, I called you and I said, "Joe, I really wanna do your podcast again." You said, "Sure."
- JRJoe Rogan
"Anytime, buddy."
- RPRussell Peters
I know. It was great. And I was, I was very happy (laughs) . I thought you were gonna be like, "Oh, man. You know, I got so many people I gotta-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Come on.
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Russell, you and I go back, my friend.
- RPRussell Peters
I know, it's true.
- JRJoe Rogan
And I tell everybody I wear the watch you gave me every special. And I have since 2014.
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
I didn't, I didn't know that detail. That's an-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep.
- RPRussell Peters
... interesting detail.
- JRJoe Rogan
You gave me a watch once. It was the s- the most ridiculously generous thing ever. I was looking at your watch and go, "That's a nice watch." You go, "You want it?"
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And you took it off and gave it to me. I'm like-
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... "Jesus Christ." So I've worn it every special I've ever done.
- RPRussell Peters
I've tried, I've tried that with you. I was like, "Joe, that's a really nice Porsche." "Yeah, it is."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 2:45 – 6:13
Podcast formats, Ari Shaffir’s themed storytelling, and how comics get “in trouble” online
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, uh, I don't know, though. The, the... Some, some people do... Like, Ari has a theme for most of his podcasts.
- RPRussell Peters
Ari's a very themed, thematic guy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
Even when he came up with the TV shows, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
He would always have a theme. And when he would have those shows at the store, "Okay, we're gonna do this night. Do you have a blah, blah, blah story for that?" And I'm like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
... you know, which is good. Uh, and, and, uh, it, you know, it, it challenges the guest a little bit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
Which is nice, but...
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's how he came up with his show. The, he came up with the idea for his show when he was, um, he was just trying to figure out ways to work on bits that are storytelling form. So he said, "You know what I'll do? I'll just do a whole storytelling show where you don't do your act, you just tell a story."
- RPRussell Peters
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then he set it up in the lab, the old lab before it became that weird lab in the Improv.
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, yeah, yeah. On Melrose there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. And then he started doing it there. And then, um, next thing you know, it was a fucking Comedy Central show.
- RPRussell Peters
I know. I did a couple-
- JRJoe Rogan
Damn.
- RPRussell Peters
... of those. The, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
This Is Not Happening.
- RPRussell Peters
I always... Um, I did This Is Not Happening, but then he had the other ones that he would do live before he was recording them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, what did he call those?
- RPRussell Peters
Um...
- JRJoe Rogan
Were those called This Is Not Happening as well?
- RPRussell Peters
No. One of, I think one variation of it was, but the earlier ones were some sort of, like, road stories or whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
I can't even remember why he stopped doing the show now.
- RPRussell Peters
I think it was because that, that little, uh, episode happened with, uh... When, uh... Who died?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, it was before that.
- RPRussell Peters
It was before that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
Somebody else died. I think it, they canceled him basically. And then they replaced him with somebody else.
- 6:13 – 7:32
Can you still make comedies like Step Brothers? Movies, “woke” rules, and offensive nostalgia
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I watched Step Brothers the other day.
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You could not make that movie today. You could not make it-
- RPRussell Peters
You could make... Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and it was so good.
- RPRussell Peters
You can't make a lot of things that we made five years ago today. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You... Can you imagine if they tried to make Step Brothers today? But by the way, here's a question. When was the last time you saw a really good funny movie, like a recent funny movie?
- RPRussell Peters
We have not. We have not.
- JRJoe Rogan
They don't exist.
- RPRussell Peters
It's, it's hard, because they're trying to incorporate too much.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you're trying to be woke.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're trying to apply these rules that are created by these people that just want to kind of control peoples' ability to express themselves.
- RPRussell Peters
Well, they want you show this world that matches their imaginary world, and you're like, "But that's not my world."
- JRJoe Rogan
Not only that, it's like come on, man. You, you, do you really get offended when you watch Step Brothers?
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Does that offend you?
- RPRussell Peters
If you got offended by Step Brothers, you've got issues. That's why I feel like the people that are getting offended have their own things that they're dealing with-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
... and they just need somebody to blame.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they're just deciding what people can and can't say, and don't, you know... The, the, whatever they think is non-acceptable now in this new world of just calling out everybody for everything.
- RPRussell Peters
I think about my act when I started, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. (laughs)
- RPRussell Peters
... 32 years ago-
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus.
- RPRussell Peters
... and I'm like, "Holy shit."
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus.
- RPRussell Peters
What the fuck was wrong with me? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
So many problems.
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, my God.
- 7:32 – 11:54
Boxing deep dive: Canelo’s evolution, Wilder’s rebuild, and the meaning of real power
- JRJoe Rogan
So problematic. Hey, uh, did you watch the Canelo fight this weekend?
- RPRussell Peters
I was working.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah. You didn't see it at all?
- RPRussell Peters
I wasn't... I wa- Mm-mm. I saw the highlights.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus Christ.
- RPRussell Peters
He broke his face.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, he hit so hard.
- RPRussell Peters
Broke that orbital bone.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's one of those guys that, like, you know, some guys just have power, right? But he works on it all the time.
- RPRussell Peters
That's what I say, he's the most im... Every fight, he's the most improved fighter. He always goes back-
- JRJoe Rogan
So good.
- RPRussell Peters
... and fixes anything he saw wrong.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep. Well, the-
- RPRussell Peters
He, every-
- JRJoe Rogan
... the Danny Jacobs fight? Remember his head movement?
- RPRussell Peters
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's, I mean...
- RPRussell Peters
It gave Danny problems.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) It would give anybody problems. But it was also like he was showing his head movement in that fight.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, 'cause they used to say he just walked right in-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
... and then he fixed it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God, did he fix it.
- RPRussell Peters
And there was a video of, uh ... There's a video of Deontay Wilder, uh, yesterday I saw it, and he's looking really good. Malik, Malik Scott King is training him now.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is he doing with him?
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, he looks like a completely different fighter. I think if you could find that, uh...
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, is he, like, using a lot of jabs? Is it that video?
- RPRussell Peters
Jabs and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
... he's planting his feet and he looks like a boxer now.
- 11:54 – 16:34
Language pet peeves and combat-sports culture: ‘cheers,’ shakas, oss, and Portuguese
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the thing about Canadians. You've, you've adopted ... Canadians have adopted some of the vernacular of the Englishmen.
- RPRussell Peters
Well, my dad grew up in India under British rule, so ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm. But people-
- RPRussell Peters
And we're mixed, so.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I knew a girl from Canada, and she used to say she was going to the loo.
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, she was just trying to be special.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, you think so?
- RPRussell Peters
I don't like when people say cheers either. All right, cheers, pal.
- JRJoe Rogan
What, you don't like cheers?
- RPRussell Peters
No, when ch- when they're saying thank you, you know? Oh, cheers, man. Thanks.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- RPRussell Peters
You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, right. Not like cheers with a glass.
- RPRussell Peters
Cheers for the drink. Uh, but, hey-
- JRJoe Rogan
Cheers, mate.
- RPRussell Peters
Cheers for the cig- ... No, motherfucker, thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Oh, right, right. I see what you're saying. Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
'Cause the, the term cheers for, like, a thank you bothers me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Cheers.
- RPRussell Peters
Because it's like, are you really gonna fucking cheer?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- RPRussell Peters
Hey, Joe gave me a cigar. Hooray. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's, it's like aloha. It's got a lot of names, a lot of, like, words.
- RPRussell Peters
This, this bothers me. Unless, unless you're Hawaiian this bothers me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Does it?
- RPRussell Peters
It bothers the shit out of me.
- JRJoe Rogan
You better not surf.
- RPRussell Peters
I know, people that take pictures of me, like ... And I'm, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
The surfers love that shit.
- RPRussell Peters
I get it for them and, and Hawaiians. I get it.
- 16:34 – 19:53
Training habits, parenting/custody stress, and Russell’s turnaround from a dark year
- JRJoe Rogan
How, how often are you training these days?
- RPRussell Peters
Not as much as I want to.
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you want to? How many days a week?
- RPRussell Peters
I wanna train three times a week, four times a week.
- JRJoe Rogan
What have you been doing? Like, one or two?
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, one- once ... L- uh, lately it's been, like, once a month.
- JRJoe Rogan
Are you doing other stuff? Do you, do you have, like, a personal trainer or anything like that?
- RPRussell Peters
Nah, I just got my, uh, yoga ball and some dumbbells.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, get a personal trainer. Get someone who you're accountable to so you have to show up, you know.
- RPRussell Peters
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, they show up at your house. Like, if y- ... All you need is a yoga ball and some dumbbells. I mean, you get a good trainer, that's ... You don't need a lot of equipment.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Get someone who, like, makes you do stuff.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, I just want to jitz. I, I, like la- ... Otherwise, I have no time right now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- RPRussell Peters
It's like I get my kid ... I finally got my kid back, so-
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a lot of people that are rewinding this, going, "Did he say he wants to jizz?"
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"What'd he say?"
- RPRussell Peters
I wanna pouha all over the place.
- JRJoe Rogan
I just wanna jizz.
- RPRussell Peters
I just wanna jizz. That's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Just wanna jitz. You just like doing jujitsu.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, you got your kid back?
- RPRussell Peters
I got my kid back, yeah, finally.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- RPRussell Peters
Well, I get him ... You know, I get him, you know, eight hours a day.
- JRJoe Rogan
Every day?
- RPRussell Peters
Not every day.
- 19:53 – 26:33
Biohacks and recovery tech: hyperbaric oxygen, telomeres, float tanks, and sauna routines
- RPRussell Peters
So wait-
- JRJoe Rogan
... get up, I always say goodbye to my kids in the morning. And, um, lately I've been doing hyperbaric chamber sessions.
- RPRussell Peters
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I didn't wanna talk about it until I know whether or not this is legit.
- RPRussell Peters
And?
- JRJoe Rogan
And I don't know. I don't know whe- whether or not it's legit.
- RPRussell Peters
Wasn't Michael Jackson doing that at one point?
- JRJoe Rogan
No. He ... Maybe.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, before he was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Actually, yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
... doing the protocol, he was doing hyperbaric chambers.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's right. That's right. Yeah, you're right. You're right. He was. It's, uh, supposed to, uh, lengthen your telomeres. There's a study out of Israel where they, they did 60 sessions over 90 days. And one measure of biological health and age is the length of your telomeres.
- RPRussell Peters
What are your telomeres?
- JRJoe Rogan
Your telomeres, it's ... I'm ... I'll bu- I'll butcher it, so there it is.
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, there it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's Michael Jackson.
- RPRussell Peters
That's the old-school one with the walkie-talkie on it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's a weird one, right?
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause it's all glass. The one on-
- RPRussell Peters
That's just ... What is it, just high oxygen?
- JRJoe Rogan
It is, uh, yes. Here. W- Well, let's go to telomeres first. Google, google the, the term telomeres 'cause I don't wanna fuck it up. But it's ... It, it's ... It has something to do, I believe, with your mitochondria, and it ... The length of your telomeres indicates ... It's ... You're ... It, it's an indication of health and of biological age. Although the biological age aspect of it is disputed, but people like David Sinclair think it's a good indication of your biological age. He's, uh ... He's been on the podcast a couple times before. He's a professor at Harvard, and he studies ... And most of his study is in anti-aging.
- RPRussell Peters
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but go to telomeres, pl- please, just so-
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, that's how you spell telomeres. Nice.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but I mean, I wanted to know the, the, uh, definition-
- RPRussell Peters
(clears throat) I had it all wrong in my head.
- JRJoe Rogan
(clears throat) Just, just telomeres, just so I can figure out how to say it. Okay. It's the end of a chromosome, right?
- RPRussell Peters
Ah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Telomeres are made of repetitive sequences of noncoding DNA that protect the chromosomes from damage. Each time a cell divides, the telomere becomes shorter. Eventually, the telomeres become so short, the cell can no longer divide. So this is as you get older, your telomeres become shorter. And now google telomeres hyperbaric, the thing that you had already. And what this is, for the first time, hyperbaric oxygen therapy proven to reverse biological aging in humans.
- 26:33 – 44:15
Extreme survival history: Cabeza de Vaca, early America, and why safety enables innovation
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I only hav- I have a, one pair that I wear just when I'm inside the sauna. And they don't burn up. So you can listen to books. So I'm listening to this book on, uh, Cabeza de Vaca, who's a, uh, Spanish-
- RPRussell Peters
Cow Head?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a Spanish, uh, sh-, uh, explorer that landed in North America in the 1500s and walked across the country. It's a crazy... You ever wanna complain about the weather?
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You ever wanna complain about your life?
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
"Oh, fucking COVID kicked my ass." Listen to me. Read this fucking book. It's called A Land So Strange. It's amazing. My friend Hank, uh, told me about it. He's, uh, the security guy at, um, Kill Tony.
- RPRussell Peters
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Big giant Native American cat.
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, that got the hat on?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that dude.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, I met him last night.
- JRJoe Rogan
Great guy. Uh, Hank told me about, uh, this book, and he was raving about it. And boy was he right. It's amazing.
- RPRussell Peters
So are these, um, uh, uh, the stories told from-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- RPRussell Peters
... notes he left?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, notes he left, and then, uh, you know, him telling a story back home when he got, when he eventually, uh, got rescued. Or made it back to Spain, which I believe happened. I don't know, 'cause I'm always-
- RPRussell Peters
Wait, where did he s-
- JRJoe Rogan
... They landed s-
- RPRussell Peters
In modern day...
- JRJoe Rogan
They landed in Florida.
- RPRussell Peters
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they made their way across Florida, and then they w- got to the Gulf of Mexico. They did all this with rafts. They, they sailed, like, I don't know how many fucking miles in rafts. And then they got attacked multiple times by Indians when they would get to shore. And some Indians took care of them, and some Indians attacked them and killed them. And, oh, what a fucking harrowing journey, man. I mean, I'm on chapter, I think I'm on chapter eight now. And so far, they've been at it for 10... I think he's been in America for 10 years at this point.
- RPRussell Peters
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or close to it.
- RPRussell Peters
How many people are with him?
- JRJoe Rogan
Six years? Seven years? Well, they got down to four. 'Cause it-
- RPRussell Peters
Started with-
- 44:15 – 1:08:14
Lost civilizations and uncontacted tribes: Amazon ‘cities,’ disease collapse, and Sentinel Island
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, the, do you know that... Here's what's crazy. Do you know a lot of the Amazon rainforest, which is this fucking insanely dense, incredible rainforest, a lot of it used to be populated and a lot of the growth there is actually because of humans. A lot of the plants and the reason why it's so dense is because of the stuff that human beings planted there thousands of years ago.
- RPRussell Peters
And now we're trying to get rid of it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's not even just that we're trying to get rid of it. They're just starting to understand like the whole ecosystem of that area, like why these, why it's so dense and what, what caused all this, what caused all this intense, uh, like vegetation and brush, and they think it's possible that a lot of it was caused by human beings. See, find out what tree that is that they planted, but there's some insanely prolific tree that they were, uh, that they were harvesting and planting in these areas and it took over. Like y- you ever hear of that s- The Lost City of Z? You ever remember that?
- RPRussell Peters
The movie, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. That movie apparently was based on what, what would happen when these explorers had originally come there. Supposedly pristine, untouched Amazon rainforest was actually shaped by humans. Over thousands of years, native people planted a strong, played a strong role in molding the ecology of this vast wilderness. So, we assume that you see this dense jungle, oh, it's untouched, but it, it actually, they don't think it was. Um, so here it goes. Uh, described region of the world in 1991 book making, marking the 500th anniversary of Christopher Columbus v- uh, voyage to the New World. The native people were transparent in the landscape, living as natural elements in the ecosphere. Their world was a world of barely perceptible human disturbance. But was it really? In a less... How do you say that word? Rhapsodical-
- RPRussell Peters
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
... rhapsodical verse.
- RPRussell Peters
There is that word.
- JRJoe Rogan
Scholars in the past quarter century have shown that this mythical image of untouched nature is just that, a myth. Like humans everywhere, Native Americans shaped their environments to suit them through burning, pruning, tilling and other practices, and the Amazon is no different. If you look closer, you see the deep impressions that humans have made on the world's largest tropical rain f- rainforest, scientists reported yesterday in the journal Science. De- despite its vastness, the Amazon stretches more than two million square miles and an estimated 390 billion trees. This rainforest is hardly the untamable, unstoppable force of nature that the romantics opined, says Jose Iriarte?
- RPRussell Peters
Iriarte.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, an archaeologist at the University of Exeter. In fact, humans have inhabited the Amazon for roughly 13,000 years and have been domesticating plants for at least 8,000, and recent archaeological studies, especially in the last two decades showed that indigenous populations in the past were more numerous, more complex, and had a greater impact on the largest and most biodiverse tropical rainforests in the world than had previously thought, than previously thought.
- RPRussell Peters
What's the, uh, lifespan of the, uh, those, those untouched humans?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know, man. Not, not so good. But hold on a second, here's a... Stop right there. Um, colleagues were ta- taking inventory of the vast diversity of the Amazon, uh, trees. They sampled 1,100 scattered plots far from modern human inhabitants to identify more than 16,000 different species among those 390 billion individual plants, then they noticed something odd. Despite the broad diversity, over half of the total trees were made up of just over 1% of the species. About 20 of these hyperdominant plants were domesticated species such as the Brazil nut, the Amazon tree grape, and the ice cream bean tree. That was five times the amount researchers expected if the chances were the only fact- if chance was the only factor. The hypothesis came up that perhaps people might have domesticated these species which would have helped their abundance in the Amazon. So the thing, they think they had domesticated these species that they used for food and then these species took over and just dominated the, uh, the ecosphere.
- RPRussell Peters
... like a wild weed?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. They, they've also started using something called LiDAR. And LiDAR is something that they use from planes, and they scan the rainforest. And underneath this insane, dense, vast jungle, they-
- RPRussell Peters
The LiDAR can see through-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
... the bush, the, the thickness?
- JRJoe Rogan
It can see through everything into the ground, and they've found these grids that indicate that there were cities there.
- RPRussell Peters
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, all this shit that's incredibly dense and, and filled with trees now, at one point in time had complex, like, roadways and irrigation systems. And they think that the, the latest theory is that explorers-
- RPRussell Peters
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
... when they came there, like this, uh, Cabeza de Vaca-
- RPRussell Peters
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... dude and these others that came from Europe, probably gave these people the plague. They probably gave these people diseases, just like they did to... 90% of all Native Americans were wiped out by disease-
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... brought by European explorers.
- RPRussell Peters
By the blankets.
- JRJoe Rogan
They think that... That's, I don't think that's true. I think the blanket part is fake. It's just being around them that killed.
- RPRussell Peters
The smallpox and all that?
- 1:07:41 – 1:35:05
Boxing nostalgia and judging controversies: Chávez, Pernell Whitaker, and the economics of comebacks
- RPRussell Peters
I was getting mad at people who were talking shit after this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Here it is. June 19th-
- RPRussell Peters
Wait, who's Chavez Senior fighting then?
- SPSpeaker
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, boy. Hector Camacho Junior.
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs) Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- RPRussell Peters
And Checo Chávez-
- JRJoe Rogan
Julio Cesar Chávez Senior is fighting. That's kind of crazy.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, Senior beat up, uh, Camacho, that's why, didn't he?
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. That's crazy.
- RPRussell Peters
He, he beat up Junior's dad.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did he?
- RPRussell Peters
I think he did, like, in the '90s.
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- RPRussell Peters
Did that not... Did he, did he fight him? I think he might... Check BoxRec. He may have.
- JRJoe Rogan
I do not think that-
- RPRussell Peters
I remember when Edwin-
- JRJoe Rogan
... Hector Camacho beat Julio Cesar Chávez.
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