Joe Rogan Experience #1650 - Russell Peters

Narrator 0:00 (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day.

Narrator 0:09 (instrumental music)

Joe Rogan 0:15 Hello, Russell.

Russell Peters 0:16 Hello, Joseph.

Joe Rogan 0:17 Good to see you, my friend.

Russell Peters 0:19 How are you, pally?

Joe Rogan 0:20 I'm fucking great.

Russell Peters 0:21 (clears throat) So-

Joe Rogan 0:22 Better now that you're here.

Russell Peters 0:23 I know. I, I called you and I said, "Joe, I really wanna do your podcast again." You said, "Sure."

Joe Rogan 0:27 "Anytime, buddy."

Russell Peters 0:28 I know. It was great. And I was, I was very happy (laughs) . I thought you were gonna be like, "Oh, man. You know, I got so many people I gotta-"

Joe Rogan 0:33 Come on.

Russell Peters 0:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:34 Russell, you and I go back, my friend.

Russell Peters 0:36 I know, it's true.

Joe Rogan 0:37 And I tell everybody I wear the watch you gave me every special. And I have since 2014.

Russell Peters 0:42 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 0:43 Yeah.

Russell Peters 0:43 I didn't, I didn't know that detail. That's an-

Joe Rogan 0:44 Yep.

Russell Peters 0:44 ... interesting detail.

Joe Rogan 0:45 You gave me a watch once. It was the s- the most ridiculously generous thing ever. I was looking at your watch and go, "That's a nice watch." You go, "You want it?"

Russell Peters 0:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:52 And you took it off and gave it to me. I'm like-

Russell Peters 0:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:54 ... "Jesus Christ." So I've worn it every special I've ever done.

Russell Peters 0:57 I've tried, I've tried that with you. I was like, "Joe, that's a really nice Porsche." "Yeah, it is."

Joe Rogan 1:00 (laughs)

Russell Peters 1:00 And you walked away. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02 Oh, it's a ploy. I see how it works.

Russell Peters 1:05 (laughs) Well, it never worked. It never worked. (laughs) So I took your advice, and I started (laughs) my podcast.

Joe Rogan 1:11 I heard.

Russell Peters 1:12 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:13 Well, how m- how many have you done so far?

Russell Peters 1:15 Uh, I think I've done maybe eight or nine, maybe.

Joe Rogan 1:18 Yeah?

Russell Peters 1:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:19 Are you enjoying it?

Russell Peters 1:20 I'm having a good time with it, you know.

Joe Rogan 1:22 Why'd you wait so long?

Russell Peters 1:23 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:24 (laughs)

Russell Peters 1:24 I, I really don't... I, it really wasn't until your prompting that I started to look into it. And then you said you'd be my first guest, but I was like, "Let's, let me get some people under my belt first."

Joe Rogan 1:35 Get rolling?

Russell Peters 1:35 Yeah, let me get rolling.

Joe Rogan 1:36 Get comfortable?

Russell Peters 1:37 Yeah, that's like, you know, becoming a white belt and going, "Hey, let me roll with you." You're like, "No, don't do that."

Joe Rogan 1:40 (laughs) Are you... Do, do you have a studio at your house? Like, where do you have your studio?

Russell Peters 1:45 Uh, there's no studio. I just do it in my backyard.

Joe Rogan 1:47 Oh, nice.

Russell Peters 1:48 Like, I have, like, a little porch area with s-

Joe Rogan 1:50 Mm-hmm.

Russell Peters 1:50 ... with a humidor and then-

Joe Rogan 1:51 Oh.

Russell Peters 1:52 ... we sit around like this. We smoke cigars. We have some drinks and-

Joe Rogan 1:54 I like outdoor, uh, podcasts.

Russell Peters 1:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:57 Anthony Cumia used to do his in his backyard. Let me-

Russell Peters 2:00 That was by force, not by choice. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:03 (laughs) Well, when he left, uh, N- New York, when he left Opie and Anthony.

Russell Peters 2:06 When he went back to Long Island-

Joe Rogan 2:08 Mm-hmm.

Russell Peters 2:08 ... and, and built his little, uh...

Joe Rogan 2:10 The compound.

Russell Peters 2:11 His compound. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:11 Yeah. But he used to do it just, like, sitting out by the pool.

Russell Peters 2:15 Yeah, the pool's right there.

Joe Rogan 2:16 Yeah.

Russell Peters 2:16 And, you know, you'll hear planes go by and stuff.

Joe Rogan 2:19 It's nice.

Russell Peters 2:20 It's nice. But it's like this. It's just conversation.

Joe Rogan 2:21 Yeah.

Russell Peters 2:21 You know, it's just hanging out. I took a page out of your book. I was like... People are like, "Well, what's it gonna be about?" I go, "I just want you to hear my, me and my friends hanging out and talking. I want-"

Joe Rogan 2:29 Yeah.

Russell Peters 2:29 "... you know, a little fly-on-the-wall business there."

Joe Rogan 2:31 Yeah, that's all it needs to be. This idea that it needs to be something (sniffs) s- very specific. Like, "What are you gonna talk about? Like, you need an angle."

Russell Peters 2:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:39 "You need a hook."

Russell Peters 2:40 Yeah. I'm like, "There's no, there's no, like..." I, I go, "I'm, I'm gonna have a tough time fucking sticking to that script."

Joe Rogan 2:45 Yeah. Well, uh, I don't know, though. The, the... Some, some people do... Like, Ari has a theme for most of his podcasts.

Russell Peters 2:53 Ari's a very themed, thematic guy.

Joe Rogan 2:55 Yeah.

Russell Peters 2:56 Even when he came up with the TV shows, you know?

Joe Rogan 2:57 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Russell Peters 2:58 He would always have a theme. And when he would have those shows at the store, "Okay, we're gonna do this night. Do you have a blah, blah, blah story for that?" And I'm like-

Joe Rogan 3:05 Yeah.

Russell Peters 3:05 ... you know, which is good. Uh, and, and, uh, it, you know, it, it challenges the guest a little bit.

Joe Rogan 3:11 Yeah.

Russell Peters 3:12 Which is nice, but...

Joe Rogan 3:13 Well, that's how he came up with his show. The, he came up with the idea for his show when he was, um, he was just trying to figure out ways to work on bits that are storytelling form. So he said, "You know what I'll do? I'll just do a whole storytelling show where you don't do your act, you just tell a story."

Russell Peters 3:29 Right.

Joe Rogan 3:30 And then he set it up in the lab, the old lab before it became that weird lab in the Improv.

Russell Peters 3:35 Oh, yeah, yeah. On Melrose there.

Joe Rogan 3:36 Yeah. And then he started doing it there. And then, um, next thing you know, it was a fucking Comedy Central show.

Russell Peters 3:42 I know. I did a couple-

Joe Rogan 3:43 Damn.

Russell Peters 3:43 ... of those. The, uh-

Joe Rogan 3:44 This Is Not Happening.

Russell Peters 3:45 I always... Um, I did This Is Not Happening, but then he had the other ones that he would do live before he was recording them.

Joe Rogan 3:49 Yeah, what did he call those?

Russell Peters 3:51 Um...

Joe Rogan 3:52 Were those called This Is Not Happening as well?

Russell Peters 3:54 No. One of, I think one variation of it was, but the earlier ones were some sort of, like, road stories or whatever.

Joe Rogan 4:01 I can't even remember why he stopped doing the show now.

Russell Peters 4:04 I think it was because that, that little, uh, episode happened with, uh... When, uh... Who died?

Joe Rogan 4:12 No, it was before that.

Russell Peters 4:14 It was before that?

Joe Rogan 4:15 Yeah.

Russell Peters 4:17 Somebody else died. I think it, they canceled him basically. And then they replaced him with somebody else.

Joe Rogan 4:22 I'm trying to remember what it was. God, I can't remember.

Russell Peters 4:26 They fuck with Ari a lot. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:27 Well, Ari's a wild man. He's-

Russell Peters 4:29 Ari's a wild man, but if you know him-

Joe Rogan 4:31 ... he's a legit wild... He's a beautiful person.

Russell Peters 4:32 (laughs) That's what I mean.

Joe Rogan 4:33 I love him to death.

Russell Peters 4:33 If you know him, he's a great guy.

Joe Rogan 4:34 He's a great guy. I love him. I love him to death. But he's a wild man. But that's why he's a great comic. He's wild, you know? Like, there's a lot of great comics that are wild. We just gotta be more forgiving with those people. They don't mean to be bad.

Russell Peters 4:50 Yeah, you gotta understand-

Joe Rogan 4:51 (laughs)

Russell Peters 4:51 ... people is what it is. You gotta under-

Joe Rogan 4:53 Uh-huh.

Russell Peters 4:53 ... like I always say, it's about the intent, you know?

Joe Rogan 4:54 Mm-hmm.

Russell Peters 4:55 It's not, it's not what they're saying or what... Look at the intent. Look at... See if, see if there's something... I- if they're actually being diabolical or if they're just-

Joe Rogan 5:03 Right. Right.

Russell Peters 5:04 ... they're just not thinking.

Joe Rogan 5:05 Yeah. M- Well, just, like, a lot of impulsiveness involved in some folks in our business, you know? And sometimes they think, uh, it's a good idea and you wanna call them up y- you know, right before they do it and catch them. But usually, you don't.

Russell Peters 5:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:20 It goes out and then you go, "Hey, no." (laughs)

Russell Peters 5:23 It's like a social media post, you know?

Joe Rogan 5:25 (laughs) Yes.

Russell Peters 5:25 In the moment, you're like, "This is what I'm fucking feeling and I'm gonna put this out there." And I've been guilty of it.

Joe Rogan 5:30 Yeah.

Russell Peters 5:31 And I've, and I've stopped myself from it at too at the same time, you know?

Joe Rogan 5:34 Yeah. There's a lot of, uh, comics that, like, social media is not a healthy thing for them.... it's, it's just too, uh, there's too, too much of a minefield, you know?

Russell Peters 5:47 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:47 It's too fraught with peril.

Russell Peters 5:49 Yeah. And that's the thing, I'm always careful about what I'm posting. Like, I have, you know, I have this company that cuts my bits together for me and subtitles them. And then they'll send it to me. I won't... I don't know what they're going to send me, 'cause it's always like crowd work stuff that they're sending me, because I don't want to burn material.

Joe Rogan 6:01 Right.

Russell Peters 6:02 And, uh, and I'm like, "Fuck, that's funny," but I know that this one line in there is gonna cause a fucking shit storm of people to be like, "What's wrong with you? You can't s-"

Joe Rogan 6:11 (laughs)

Russell Peters 6:11 And I'm like, "Uh, f- y- you're missing the fucking point, pal."

Joe Rogan 6:13 Dude, I watched Step Brothers the other day.

Russell Peters 6:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:16 You could not make that movie today. You could not make it-

Russell Peters 6:19 You could make... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:19 ... and it was so good.

Russell Peters 6:20 You can't make a lot of things that we made five years ago today. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:23 You... Can you imagine if they tried to make Step Brothers today? But by the way, here's a question. When was the last time you saw a really good funny movie, like a recent funny movie?

Russell Peters 6:31 We have not. We have not.

Joe Rogan 6:33 They don't exist.

Russell Peters 6:34 It's, it's hard, because they're trying to incorporate too much.

Joe Rogan 6:37 Well, you're trying to be woke.

Russell Peters 6:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:39 You're trying to apply these rules that are created by these people that just want to kind of control peoples' ability to express themselves.

Russell Peters 6:48 Well, they want you show this world that matches their imaginary world, and you're like, "But that's not my world."

Joe Rogan 6:56 Not only that, it's like come on, man. You, you, do you really get offended when you watch Step Brothers?

Russell Peters 7:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:01 Does that offend you?

Russell Peters 7:02 If you got offended by Step Brothers, you've got issues. That's why I feel like the people that are getting offended have their own things that they're dealing with-

Joe Rogan 7:08 Yeah.

Russell Peters 7:09 ... and they just need somebody to blame.

Joe Rogan 7:11 Well, they're just deciding what people can and can't say, and don't, you know... The, the, whatever they think is non-acceptable now in this new world of just calling out everybody for everything.

Russell Peters 7:24 I think about my act when I started, like-

Joe Rogan 7:26 Oh. (laughs)

Russell Peters 7:27 ... 32 years ago-

Joe Rogan 7:28 Jesus.

Russell Peters 7:28 ... and I'm like, "Holy shit."

Joe Rogan 7:29 Jesus.

Russell Peters 7:29 What the fuck was wrong with me? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:31 So many problems.

Russell Peters 7:32 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 7:32 So problematic. Hey, uh, did you watch the Canelo fight this weekend?

Russell Peters 7:36 I was working.

Joe Rogan 7:37 Ah. You didn't see it at all?

Russell Peters 7:39 I wasn't... I wa- Mm-mm. I saw the highlights.

Joe Rogan 7:40 Jesus Christ.

Russell Peters 7:40 He broke his face.

Joe Rogan 7:41 Bro, he hit so hard.

Russell Peters 7:43 Broke that orbital bone.

Joe Rogan 7:44 He's one of those guys that, like, you know, some guys just have power, right? But he works on it all the time.

Russell Peters 7:50 That's what I say, he's the most im... Every fight, he's the most improved fighter. He always goes back-

Joe Rogan 7:55 So good.

Russell Peters 7:55 ... and fixes anything he saw wrong.

Joe Rogan 7:57 Yep. Well, the-

Russell Peters 7:58 He, every-

Joe Rogan 7:59 ... the Danny Jacobs fight? Remember his head movement?

Russell Peters 8:01 Yep.

Joe Rogan 8:02 It's, I mean...

Russell Peters 8:02 It gave Danny problems.

Joe Rogan 8:03 (laughs) It would give anybody problems. But it was also like he was showing his head movement in that fight.

Russell Peters 8:09 Yeah, 'cause they used to say he just walked right in-

Joe Rogan 8:11 Yeah.

Russell Peters 8:11 ... and then he fixed it.

Joe Rogan 8:12 Oh my God, did he fix it.

Russell Peters 8:12 And there was a video of, uh ... There's a video of Deontay Wilder, uh, yesterday I saw it, and he's looking really good. Malik, Malik Scott King is training him now.

Joe Rogan 8:20 What is he doing with him?

Russell Peters 8:21 Oh, he looks like a completely different fighter. I think if you could find that, uh...

Joe Rogan 8:25 Oh, is he, like, using a lot of jabs? Is it that video?

Russell Peters 8:27 Jabs and-

Joe Rogan 8:27 Yeah.

Russell Peters 8:28 ... he's planting his feet and he looks like a boxer now.

Joe Rogan 8:30 Yeah.

Russell Peters 8:30 He doesn't look like a wild man just leaping off his feet and throwing these wild punches. He looks... And I'm excited to see his, him fight now, because he looked really sharp. Looked like a real boxer now.

Joe Rogan 8:39 Don't you think he needs, uh, a few fights like that, with lower, lower tier competition?

Russell Peters 8:46 Look at that.

Joe Rogan 8:46 Yeah.

Russell Peters 8:47 Look at that. He's sitting on him, bam.

Joe Rogan 8:49 The jab is very important.

Russell Peters 8:51 That jab.

Joe Rogan 8:51 But he's, he's gonna need some, you know, some tune-up fights, don't you think?

Russell Peters 8:55 He should definitely have a f- just to see how that style works in the ring. But he's moving. You see the way he's moving?

Joe Rogan 9:00 But again-

Russell Peters 9:00 He never moved like that before.

Joe Rogan 9:01 ... he's a guy that has fucking preposterous power.

Russell Peters 9:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:06 Isn't it cr- Power's so weird, you know?

Russell Peters 9:09 It is, 'cause he's so thin, you know, like, where's it coming from?

Joe Rogan 9:12 Well, Tommy Hearns.

Russell Peters 9:13 Yeah, well, Tommy, yeah, Tommy.

Joe Rogan 9:14 Tommy Hearns had p- he knocked Roberto Duran out cold, the only guy ever.

Russell Peters 9:17 Oh, yeah. Second round.

Joe Rogan 9:18 There's just guys that just have preposterous power, and Canelo is a guy that has power but is constantly working on it. There's a great clip of him working with, uh, Andy Ruiz in their, uh... You know that one, that shield, that weird hand shield-

Russell Peters 9:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:32 ... that they hold up?

Russell Peters 9:33 The one you hold.

Joe Rogan 9:33 Which, for hooks.

Russell Peters 9:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:34 And he's like, "This is not for speed, this is just power. Just power." He's like, "Don't, don't try to be fast with this, just power." And you see him just, "Boom, boom."

Russell Peters 9:43 Yep.

Joe Rogan 9:43 Everything is... And so in that fight with Billy Joe, and Billy Joe kept doing that, that same lean over and over, like, after he would punch-

Russell Peters 9:52 Yep.

Joe Rogan 9:52 ... he would lean out of the way, and he just timed it perfectly with that uppercut.

Russell Peters 9:55 Yep.

Joe Rogan 9:55 And threw everything in it. Ugh.

Russell Peters 9:57 Oh, that's the thing, he, he really watches you when in a fight.

Joe Rogan 10:00 Oh, my God.

Russell Peters 10:00 He's not like some, some knucklehead who knows how to-

Joe Rogan 10:03 Right.

Russell Peters 10:03 He really pays it... He's very aware.

Joe Rogan 10:06 Yes.

Russell Peters 10:06 And, uh, to me, I was never a Canelo guy before, but af- after the past five fights, I was like, "You know what? Uh, if I'm not a Canelo fan, now I'm a fucking hater."

Joe Rogan 10:14 Yeah.

Russell Peters 10:14 But I am a fan now, because I really appreciate his work ethic, you know, and the way he fucking... Look at it. Pow.

Joe Rogan 10:19 Yeah, this. See, it's, see, it's about power. Yeah, see, this is, this is the thing they're working on. They're just...

Narrator 10:25 (Spanish)

Joe Rogan 10:27 And he'll do that over and over and over again. So, he's a guy who already had big power, but he's constantly working and developing that power. So, like, in a fight-

Russell Peters 10:36 And you see, yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:37 ... like the Saunders fight, there was massive consequences to anything that Saunders did. Did you see... How about that fighting?

Russell Peters 10:44 I watched that fight.

Joe Rogan 10:44 The Chris Arreola fight?

Russell Peters 10:46 Yeah, I think-

Joe Rogan 10:46 Andy Ruiz.

Russell Peters 10:46 I think-

Joe Rogan 10:46 Chris Arreola cracked him.

Russell Peters 10:48 He did a few times. He had him on Queer Street a couple times.

Joe Rogan 10:51 A couple times, yeah.

Russell Peters 10:51 Yeah. Are you allowed to say Queer Street anymore?

Joe Rogan 10:52 Yes, you can say.

Russell Peters 10:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:54 You see, it's an odd street.

Russell Peters 10:55 It is an odd street.

Joe Rogan 10:56 But queer's not even a... It's not derogatory. Like, queer is a distinction. Like, it's a part of LBGTQ.

Russell Peters 11:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:03 Queer, it's okay. Which is interesting, right, 'cause queer used to be derogatory.

Russell Peters 11:07 My dad used to use that as a derogatory term to me. I'd wear, like...

Joe Rogan 11:10 Yeah.

Russell Peters 11:10 ... I'd wear, came in on a pink shirt, "My God, have you become queer?" And I'm like, "What?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:15 (laughs) Your father's accent's amazing.

Russell Peters 11:17 He would... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:17 Does he really talk like this?

Russell Peters 11:18 He used to talk like that.

Joe Rogan 11:18 (laughs)

Russell Peters 11:18 "Have you become queer?"

Joe Rogan 11:20 (laughs)

Russell Peters 11:20 And I'm like, "What?" My dad used the, my dad would use the w- like... He was a, he was an English major, so he would always pick these words that would make you go, "What the fuck?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:32 (laughs)

Russell Peters 11:32 My, like, my brother would, like... (laughs) My, my, we all lived in the same house, obviously, growing up, and my brother was a bigger guy. And then my dad would be in... We'd have, we had breakfast in the, next morning, and my dad would be like, "Clayton-... what time did you come in last night? And my brother's like, "You know, 2:30." And he's like, "I know. I heard you lumbering around like a bloody elephant upstairs." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:51 Bloody.

Russell Peters 11:52 Lumbering.

Joe Rogan 11:53 (laughs)

Russell Peters 11:53 Lumbering around like a bloody elephant.

Joe Rogan 11:54 That's the thing about Canadians. You've, you've adopted ... Canadians have adopted some of the vernacular of the Englishmen.

Russell Peters 12:01 Well, my dad grew up in India under British rule, so ...

Joe Rogan 12:04 Mm. But people-

Russell Peters 12:05 And we're mixed, so.

Joe Rogan 12:06 But I knew a girl from Canada, and she used to say she was going to the loo.

Russell Peters 12:10 Oh, she was just trying to be special.

Joe Rogan 12:12 Oh, you think so?

Russell Peters 12:13 I don't like when people say cheers either. All right, cheers, pal.

Joe Rogan 12:15 What, you don't like cheers?

Russell Peters 12:16 No, when ch- when they're saying thank you, you know? Oh, cheers, man. Thanks.

Joe Rogan 12:19 Oh.

Russell Peters 12:21 You know?

Joe Rogan 12:21 Oh, right. Not like cheers with a glass.

Russell Peters 12:22 Cheers for the drink. Uh, but, hey-

Joe Rogan 12:24 Cheers, mate.

Russell Peters 12:25 Cheers for the cig- ... No, motherfucker, thank you.

Joe Rogan 12:27 Yeah. Oh, right, right. I see what you're saying. Yeah.

Russell Peters 12:29 'Cause the, the term cheers for, like, a thank you bothers me.

Joe Rogan 12:32 Yeah. Cheers.

Russell Peters 12:33 Because it's like, are you really gonna fucking cheer?

Joe Rogan 12:35 Right.

Russell Peters 12:35 Hey, Joe gave me a cigar. Hooray. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:39 Well, it's, it's like aloha. It's got a lot of names, a lot of, like, words.

Russell Peters 12:42 This, this bothers me. Unless, unless you're Hawaiian this bothers me.

Joe Rogan 12:44 Does it?

Russell Peters 12:45 It bothers the shit out of me.

Joe Rogan 12:46 You better not surf.

Russell Peters 12:47 I know, people that take pictures of me, like ... And I'm, like-

Joe Rogan 12:49 The surfers love that shit.

Russell Peters 12:51 I get it for them and, and Hawaiians. I get it.

Joe Rogan 12:54 Surfers.

Russell Peters 12:55 But when, like, random dudes are like ... And I'm like-

Joe Rogan 12:56 Jujitsu guys like that too.

Russell Peters 12:58 I know. It fucking bothers me.

Joe Rogan 12:59 Chaka, yeah. Oh, that's where it bothers you, yeah.

Russell Peters 13:01 I'm like, "What are you doing?"

Joe Rogan 13:02 Listen, you're a part of the culture now. You gotta adopt a lot of jujitsu weirdness.

Russell Peters 13:05 I know. And I, I don't say oss.

Joe Rogan 13:08 Oss.

Russell Peters 13:09 Oss.

Joe Rogan 13:09 Oss.

Russell Peters 13:10 Yeah, even Jean Jacques, I asked him about it. He goes, "Eh, it's stupid."

Joe Rogan 13:13 (laughs)

Russell Peters 13:14 "He don't ... We don't use that."

Joe Rogan 13:15 Well, it's, uh, it's really not, um, a jujitsu thing as much as it was more of a karate thing. Oss was a karate thing. But it's, like, a respect thing. Like-

Russell Peters 13:24 I remember the kiais.

Joe Rogan 13:26 Oh, kiais when you throw punches?

Russell Peters 13:27 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:28 But oss is, like, you say it like it's almost, like, kinda tongue in cheek when most guys do it. Oss. But they, they're ser- ... You know, they're saying respect. It's like saying respect. Respect.

Russell Peters 13:38 See, I don't, I don't know how to use it, so I don't bother with it.

Joe Rogan 13:40 Oh.

Russell Peters 13:40 And I'll use pouha because that's, you know-

Joe Rogan 13:42 Pouha's fun.

Russell Peters 13:43 Yeah, you hear that all the time, you know.

Joe Rogan 13:44 Pouha is a lot of things. It's cum, it's nuts-

Russell Peters 13:47 Oh, yeah. I believe I mentioned it on the last time I was on.

Joe Rogan 13:49 It's fuck, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Russell Peters 13:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:50 They all do it. They all say it. Brazilians love to say pouha. Brazilian is a ... Portuguese from Brazil is such a beautiful language, 'cause it's g- it's so flowing. (portuguese)

Russell Peters 14:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:01 (portuguese) It's got, like, a sing song sort of-

Russell Peters 14:03 Yeah, but if you hear the Portuguese from Portugal talk it's, it's, like-

Joe Rogan 14:06 Is it different?

Russell Peters 14:07 They're, they're very different accent, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:08 Oh, I don't even know what it sounds like over in Portugal.

Russell Peters 14:11 Yeah, 'cause when I hear, like, you know, the guys in the jujitsu world speaking-

Joe Rogan 14:15 Yeah.

Russell Peters 14:15 ... and you hear them talking, they're always laughing and making jokes. And you know they're making jokes and breaking each other's balls, but you know what they're saying (portuguese)

Joe Rogan 14:20 (laughs) Yeah.

Russell Peters 14:21 (laugues)

Joe Rogan 14:22 Yeah.

Russell Peters 14:22 (laugues)

Joe Rogan 14:24 Yeah. I was listening to Renzo. Uh, Renzo Gracie has a clip on his Instagram, and it's ... Yeah.

Russell Peters 14:30 Yesterday he posted something in all Portuguese.

Joe Rogan 14:32 All Portuguese.

Russell Peters 14:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:33 And, um, I'm just like ... I just like hearing it. Play, play it. Just get g- ... 'Cause Renzo's got, like, the perfect Portuguese, Brazilian-

Russell Peters 14:40 Yeah, he has that-

Joe Rogan 14:41 ... accent.

Russell Peters 14:41 That, that, that, that pitch he hits with his voice.

Joe Rogan 14:43 He's a fucking worldwide ... I would say national treasure, but he's Brazil's, so he's a worldwide treasure.

Russell Peters 14:49 Yeah, he's a worldwide treasure, for sure.

Narrator 14:50 (Brazilian portuguese)

Joe Rogan 14:57 He's looking at pictures on the wall of, like, famous jujitsu guys.

Narrator 15:01 (Brazilian portuguese)

Joe Rogan 15:04 That's the famous mats of New York City.

Narrator 15:09 (Brazilian portuguese)

Joe Rogan 15:09 Renzo Gracie Academy.

Narrator 15:11 (Brazilian portuguese)

Russell Peters 15:15 It's a beautiful language. It's beautiful.

Joe Rogan 15:22 It's when he does it, it sounds good.

Narrator 15:23 (Brazilian portuguese)

Russell Peters 15:27 I don't know what he's saying.

Joe Rogan 15:32 He, he sounds like he's just talking shit to you, doesn't it?

Russell Peters 15:35 It might be.

Joe Rogan 15:35 Because of the look in Renzo's face all the time.

Russell Peters 15:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:38 He probably is talking shit to you.

Russell Peters 15:39 It might be.

Joe Rogan 15:39 One of my favorite Renzo stories was Renzo live streamed him beating these dudes' asses who were following him around trying to mug him. (laughs)

Russell Peters 15:46 Oh, I remember that.

Joe Rogan 15:47 (laughs)

Russell Peters 15:47 I remember that.

Joe Rogan 15:48 These poor fucks, they decided they were gonna mug Renzo. Like, what a fucking ... And he, like, took pictures of his knuckles after he beat their asses.

Russell Peters 15:56 Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 15:57 And it was like, "What a great day." (laughs)

Russell Peters 15:59 That was in New York City, right?

Joe Rogan 16:00 Yes.

Russell Peters 16:01 Yes, I remember that.

Joe Rogan 16:02 It was ... This was pre-pandemic when New York City was slightly more safe. Like, quite a bit more safe, actually. It's, it's, it's pretty sketchy now.

Russell Peters 16:10 I've trained with h- Ralf a couple of times.

Joe Rogan 16:12 Ralf's a dangerous man.

Russell Peters 16:13 Oh man, Ralf shows me dirty moves. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:15 Oh, he's a mean dude.

Russell Peters 16:16 Yeah, he's a great guy but he ... And he'll be like, "Okay, show me. Show me what you know." And I'm like, "I'm scared of you, Ralf."

Joe Rogan 16:22 (laughs)

Russell Peters 16:22 "I'm not fucking ... I'm not smashing you. I'm, I'm rolling real light." And he's like, "You need to go back to the basics." I'm like, "No, I just don't wanna fucking ... I don't wanna feel what you're gonna do to me." (laughs) "If I, if I put my pressure on you."

Joe Rogan 16:34 How, how often are you training these days?

Russell Peters 16:36 Not as much as I want to.

Joe Rogan 16:37 What do you want to? How many days a week?

Russell Peters 16:39 I wanna train three times a week, four times a week.

Joe Rogan 16:40 What have you been doing? Like, one or two?

Russell Peters 16:41 Yeah, one- once ... L- uh, lately it's been, like, once a month.

Joe Rogan 16:44 Are you doing other stuff? Do you, do you have, like, a personal trainer or anything like that?

Russell Peters 16:47 Nah, I just got my, uh, yoga ball and some dumbbells.

Joe Rogan 16:51 Dude, get a personal trainer. Get someone who you're accountable to so you have to show up, you know.

Russell Peters 16:55 Right.

Joe Rogan 16:55 Like, they show up at your house. Like, if y- ... All you need is a yoga ball and some dumbbells. I mean, you get a good trainer, that's ... You don't need a lot of equipment.

Russell Peters 17:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:02 Get someone who, like, makes you do stuff.

Russell Peters 17:04 Yeah, I just want to jitz. I, I, like la- ... Otherwise, I have no time right now.

Joe Rogan 17:09 Right.

Russell Peters 17:09 It's like I get my kid ... I finally got my kid back, so-

Joe Rogan 17:12 There's a lot of people that are rewinding this, going, "Did he say he wants to jizz?"

Russell Peters 17:14 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:15 "What'd he say?"

Russell Peters 17:16 I wanna pouha all over the place.

Joe Rogan 17:17 I just wanna jizz.

Russell Peters 17:18 I just wanna jizz. That's-

Joe Rogan 17:19 Just wanna jitz. You just like doing jujitsu.

Russell Peters 17:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:22 So, you got your kid back?

Russell Peters 17:23 I got my kid back, yeah, finally.

Joe Rogan 17:25 Yeah?

Russell Peters 17:25 Well, I get him ... You know, I get him, you know, eight hours a day.

Joe Rogan 17:28 Every day?

Russell Peters 17:29 Not every day.

Joe Rogan 17:29 A lot of days?

Russell Peters 17:30 Couple of days.

Joe Rogan 17:30 That's good.

Russell Peters 17:31 Couple of days a week.

Joe Rogan 17:31 How long were you guys separated?

Russell Peters 17:33 Ah, it's ... It goes back and forth, you know.

Joe Rogan 17:35 You guys working it out, though?

Russell Peters 17:36 I mean, the courts are working it out, buddy.

Joe Rogan 17:38 (inhales through teeth)

Russell Peters 17:38 You know how this ...

Joe Rogan 17:39 My brother.

Russell Peters 17:39 This system is not a good system is all I'm saying.

Joe Rogan 17:42 My brother.

Russell Peters 17:43 I know.... I can't blame anybody but myself, so-

Joe Rogan 17:46 Dang.

Russell Peters 17:47 ... I'll take all accountability on this.

Joe Rogan 17:49 That's good.

Russell Peters 17:50 I know.

Joe Rogan 17:51 But good to hear you're ... At least you're ... You get to see your son.

Russell Peters 17:54 Yeah. And I'm in a better place than when I was last July when I saw you.

Joe Rogan 17:58 That's good.

Russell Peters 17:59 Yeah. It was dark then.

Joe Rogan 18:00 Yeah, you were-

Russell Peters 18:00 It was dark. It was dark for me.

Joe Rogan 18:01 I was worried about you.

Russell Peters 18:02 It was a little dark time for me.

Joe Rogan 18:03 Yeah. It seemed like it was.

Russell Peters 18:05 Yeah. You saved me.

Joe Rogan 18:06 How did I save you?

Russell Peters 18:07 I don't know. You just, just being you, and then I got a great girl now, you know.

Joe Rogan 18:11 Oh, that's good.

Russell Peters 18:11 She's awesome.

Joe Rogan 18:12 Nice. Lucky you.

Russell Peters 18:13 Yeah. See, things are coming up roses now.

Joe Rogan 18:15 Yeah. You're always lucky. You're always, you're always smiling in my eyes.

Russell Peters 18:17 No, this time I really got, I really got lucky this one, this time.

Joe Rogan 18:20 Yeah?

Russell Peters 18:20 This, this chick literally saved my life, I would say.

Joe Rogan 18:22 Yeah?

Russell Peters 18:22 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:23 Oh, that's awesome.

Russell Peters 18:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:24 I love to hear that.

Russell Peters 18:25 Yeah. It's a good thing. I finally, you know ... I got your match, you know. You know-

Joe Rogan 18:29 Beautiful.

Russell Peters 18:29 ... how you got your match? I found my match.

Joe Rogan 18:31 Yeah. You got your match. Yeah. That's, that's a lot of life, man, is finding compatible people-

Russell Peters 18:37 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:37 ... both friends and lovers, you know, everything-

Russell Peters 18:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:40 ... across the board. Even businesspeople, you know. I know a lot of people that are ... They have a bad manager or a bad agent, a bad ... You know. Like, if you're lucky, you find all sorts of the right people.

Russell Peters 18:50 Yeah. I mean, it, it takes something to happen for you to realize you're in a fucked-up place, too, you know?

Joe Rogan 18:54 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Russell Peters 18:55 You know. That pandemic kicked my ass. I gotta be honest. (laughs) That shit kicked my ass.

Joe Rogan 19:00 Well, I mean, outta nowhere all of a sudden you don't make any money.

Russell Peters 19:03 (clears throat) Yeah, and then you realize how much you were spending.

Joe Rogan 19:05 Mm-hmm.

Russell Peters 19:05 And then your accountant goes, "Hey, fuckhead."

Joe Rogan 19:07 Yeah.

Russell Peters 19:08 "You can't live like that." I go, "Oh, I mean, I knew I couldn't live like that then, but now I really can't live like that."

Joe Rogan 19:13 Well, lucky for you, you had property, you sold some property.

Russell Peters 19:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:17 Get your head above water. But it would-

Russell Peters 19:19 (laughs) Just, just tread.

Joe Rogan 19:20 ... have been nice-

Russell Peters 19:20 Just tread, buddy. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:20 It woulda been nice if you had that podcast already going, right?

Russell Peters 19:23 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:24 See, that's what I've been trying to tell all these comics, like, "Listen, I know ..." Like, comics don't like to work. They like to fuck off. But-

Russell Peters 19:30 We're lazy, that's why we do what we do.

Joe Rogan 19:32 Yeah. We're lazy, we're impulsive, you know. And people w- Whenever people try to say that I'm disciplined, I always go, "Listen, I'm the fucking laziest, disciplined person you'll ever meet in your life." I get things done, but I don't want to. I mean, I, I'm ... It's not like I get up every day and I'm like, "Yes, here we go."

Russell Peters 19:48 What time do you wake up?

Joe Rogan 19:49 Early. I-

Russell Peters 19:50 And you go to bed late.

Joe Rogan 19:52 Yeah. But I-

Russell Peters 19:53 So wait-

Joe Rogan 19:53 ... get up, I always say goodbye to my kids in the morning. And, um, lately I've been doing hyperbaric chamber sessions.

Russell Peters 20:01 Really?

Joe Rogan 20:02 Yeah. I didn't wanna talk about it until I know whether or not this is legit.

Russell Peters 20:06 And?

Joe Rogan 20:07 And I don't know. I don't know whe- whether or not it's legit.

Russell Peters 20:09 Wasn't Michael Jackson doing that at one point?

Joe Rogan 20:11 No. He ... Maybe.

Russell Peters 20:12 Yeah, before he was-

Joe Rogan 20:13 Actually, yeah.

Russell Peters 20:13 ... doing the protocol, he was doing hyperbaric chambers.

Joe Rogan 20:15 That's right. That's right. Yeah, you're right. You're right. He was. It's, uh, supposed to, uh, lengthen your telomeres. There's a study out of Israel where they, they did 60 sessions over 90 days. And one measure of biological health and age is the length of your telomeres.

Russell Peters 20:36 What are your telomeres?

Joe Rogan 20:37 Your telomeres, it's ... I'm ... I'll bu- I'll butcher it, so there it is.

Russell Peters 20:42 Oh, there it is.

Joe Rogan 20:42 There's Michael Jackson.

Russell Peters 20:43 That's the old-school one with the walkie-talkie on it.

Joe Rogan 20:45 Yeah, that's a weird one, right?

Russell Peters 20:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:46 'Cause it's all glass. The one on-

Russell Peters 20:48 That's just ... What is it, just high oxygen?

Joe Rogan 20:49 It is, uh, yes. Here. W- Well, let's go to telomeres first. Google, google the, the term telomeres 'cause I don't wanna fuck it up. But it's ... It, it's ... It has something to do, I believe, with your mitochondria, and it ... The length of your telomeres indicates ... It's ... You're ... It, it's an indication of health and of biological age. Although the biological age aspect of it is disputed, but people like David Sinclair think it's a good indication of your biological age. He's, uh ... He's been on the podcast a couple times before. He's a professor at Harvard, and he studies ... And most of his study is in anti-aging.

Russell Peters 21:27 Right.

Joe Rogan 21:27 Yeah, but go to telomeres, pl- please, just so-

Russell Peters 21:29 Oh, that's how you spell telomeres. Nice.

Joe Rogan 21:30 Yeah, but I mean, I wanted to know the, the, uh, definition-

Russell Peters 21:33 (clears throat) I had it all wrong in my head.

Joe Rogan 21:36 (clears throat) Just, just telomeres, just so I can figure out how to say it. Okay. It's the end of a chromosome, right?

Russell Peters 21:43 Ah.

Joe Rogan 21:44 Telomeres are made of repetitive sequences of noncoding DNA that protect the chromosomes from damage. Each time a cell divides, the telomere becomes shorter. Eventually, the telomeres become so short, the cell can no longer divide. So this is as you get older, your telomeres become shorter. And now google telomeres hyperbaric, the thing that you had already. And what this is, for the first time, hyperbaric oxygen therapy proven to reverse biological aging in humans.

Russell Peters 22:12 Does that look like the ones you're doing?

Joe Rogan 22:14 No. I don't know what these people are doing.

Russell Peters 22:15 Are you doing chamber?

Joe Rogan 22:16 Yeah, I'm in a, I'm in a fucking metal tube.

Russell Peters 22:19 Do you have one at the house?

Joe Rogan 22:20 No, no, but I'm gonna get one.

Russell Peters 22:22 I know. You're that guy.

Joe Rogan 22:23 Yeah. 'Cause-

Russell Peters 22:24 You had the, you know, the isolation tank.

Joe Rogan 22:26 Sensor deprivation. I'm getting one in here. Yeah, we'll have one in here soon.

Russell Peters 22:29 With the saltwater one?

Joe Rogan 22:30 << Do, do, do. >> Yes. Of course.

Russell Peters 22:31 I remember when you had it in your house when you ... When I first started doing your podcast, like, 11 years ago.

Joe Rogan 22:35 Yeah, yeah. Had it in the basement.

Russell Peters 22:37 And you showed it to me. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:38 Yeah. People think it's creepy. It's like, uh-

Russell Peters 22:40 Yeah, 'cause it is a very-

Joe Rogan 22:42 It's odd.

Russell Peters 22:42 It is odd, yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:43 It looks like a meat locker.

Russell Peters 22:44 Yeah. Yeah, it's very-

Joe Rogan 22:45 Especially the one that the ... Float tank, uh.

Russell Peters 22:47 That's the one I'm talking about.

Joe Rogan 22:48 Yeah, Float Labs.

Russell Peters 22:48 That's the one you had.

Joe Rogan 22:49 The Float Lab is, uh ... They make the best ones. They make these fucking, like, super high-end. C.R.A.S.H. down in, uh, Venice makes the most h- overly engineered float tanks. They're so, like ... Like, he uses-

Russell Peters 23:03 What do they go for?

Joe Rogan 23:04 I don't know. You have to ask 'em. I'm not sure. It's g- It's not cheap.

Russell Peters 23:08 No, I didn't imagine.

Joe Rogan 23:08 They're like 20 grand plus.

Russell Peters 23:09 Oh, yeah, no, forget it.

Joe Rogan 23:10 But it's got, like, um, ozone to filter out the water from bad bacteria and kill, you know, any funk that might be in there, although the only person it goes in mine is me. You don't have to have one like that, though. You can get one that's fairly cheap. The first one I ever got was a Samadie. I don't even know if they make those anymore. But that was just a few grand. That was like ... I think it was three grand or something like that. But it's much less engineered than these Float Lab ones. These Float Lab ones are, like, super high-end.

Russell Peters 23:38 It's like the Porsche-design one.

Joe Rogan 23:40 Yeah, it's like he just goes ... He's a mad scientist, C.R.A.S.H. is. He's been on the podcast before. He's a, a wacky cat. But he, uh ...He's the guy who really, like... Float tanks, for a long time, were a dying thing. No one was using them.

Russell Peters 23:56 When, when, when did you discover it? 'Cause I know you had it 11 years ago when I...

Joe Rogan 23:59 I first discovered it earlier than that. I discovered it, I think, in the early, late 90s, maybe, I think, the first time I did one. And then I got one in, like, 2002. Somewhere around then.

Russell Peters 24:14 Mm-hmm. In your house?

Joe Rogan 24:14 2002, 2003. I got one in my house. And then, um, I got, uh, I had a friend who was, uh, servicing my float tank, and he told me about the Float Lab. He's like, "This one is okay." He goes, "But it's kind of... The way it's made is not the best." He's like, "There's a guy in Venice that makes these insanely engineered ones." And he showed me some photos of it. He's like, "You'd really be better off getting one of these, 'cause they just... They're g- You're gonna have less problems." 'Cause one of the problems I had was my heating element had burned through my, uh, liner. Something had shorted out.

Russell Peters 24:47 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 24:48 And it burned through the liner, and so it flooded the inside of the tank and the... Like, it went through the liner into the base of the tank and it fucked everything up.

Russell Peters 24:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:55 And so he had to drain it and fix it and do all this stuff. He's like, "This is not the best engineered one. You really need to get, like, a better one if you wanna have the best experience." And it was just way better in terms of, like, sound, insulation, and the Float Lab ones are just... They're incredible. They're-

Russell Peters 25:10 How long, how long do you sit in them for?

Joe Rogan 25:12 I like two hours.

Russell Peters 25:13 Two hours?

Joe Rogan 25:14 Two hours is what I like.

Russell Peters 25:15 Is, uh... Well, you're a little extreme.

Joe Rogan 25:17 Yeah.

Russell Peters 25:17 So what's, what's the average time?

Joe Rogan 25:18 An hour. An hour is the average person.

Russell Peters 25:20 I see you-

Joe Rogan 25:20 An hour.

Russell Peters 25:20 ... posting those sauna ones too-

Joe Rogan 25:22 Yeah.

Russell Peters 25:22 ... where you're sitting in the, uh...

Joe Rogan 25:24 Yeah. I like that too.

Russell Peters 25:25 (clears throat) What you at, what are you at now? A hundred and...

Joe Rogan 25:27 I like 185, but it really goes up-

Russell Peters 25:29 Jesus Christ. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:30 ... to 200. Yeah. It, it's at 200, though. It's weird. It's like, it, it's... The way those things work, saunas, it depends on where you're at. Like, uh, if I'm sitting at the top bench, my head is in 200. But if I lay down in the bottom bench, I'm really at, like, 185. You know?

Russell Peters 25:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:46 So it's...

Russell Peters 25:46 How long you sitting in there for now?

Joe Rogan 25:48 25 minutes.

Russell Peters 25:50 And sweating your ass off.

Joe Rogan 25:51 Sweat my ass off. Yeah. But it's a, like...

Russell Peters 25:53 My problem is-

Joe Rogan 25:54 (clears throat)

Russell Peters 25:54 ... when I get into a sauna, I get bored as fuck.

Joe Rogan 25:56 Yeah. I listen to books.

Russell Peters 25:58 See, I'm afraid my phone's gonna overheat or whatever I'm listening to.

Joe Rogan 26:01 Yeah, you don't use, don't use your phone. I use AirPods. AirPods don't overheat, for whatever reason. I figured this out a long time ago.

Russell Peters 26:05 So you leave the phone outside.

Joe Rogan 26:07 Yeah. I have AirPods specifically for use in the sauna.

Russell Peters 26:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 26:11 'Cause, uh, I have, like, my one that I use when I'm talking on the phone that I never take in the sauna, because the sweat gets into these things and it completely fucks up the microphone. So if I try to call people, they're like, "Where the fuck are you?"

Russell Peters 26:23 Yeah. Sound like you're under water.

Joe Rogan 26:25 It's like, "Ha-, how are you? Hi, Josh. Uh, how are you doing?"

Russell Peters 26:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:27 It's, it fucks up whatever the microphone is. Like, the soaking of the sweat.

Russell Peters 26:31 So these are just for listening?

Joe Rogan 26:33 Yeah, I only hav- I have a, one pair that I wear just when I'm inside the sauna. And they don't burn up. So you can listen to books. So I'm listening to this book on, uh, Cabeza de Vaca, who's a, uh, Spanish-

Russell Peters 26:44 Cow Head?

Joe Rogan 26:44 Yeah.

Russell Peters 26:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:44 He's a Spanish, uh, sh-, uh, explorer that landed in North America in the 1500s and walked across the country. It's a crazy... You ever wanna complain about the weather?

Russell Peters 26:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:58 You ever wanna complain about your life?

Russell Peters 26:59 Yeah, right.

Joe Rogan 26:59 "Oh, fucking COVID kicked my ass." Listen to me. Read this fucking book. It's called A Land So Strange. It's amazing. My friend Hank, uh, told me about it. He's, uh, the security guy at, um, Kill Tony.

Russell Peters 27:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 27:12 Big giant Native American cat.

Russell Peters 27:13 Oh, that got the hat on?

Joe Rogan 27:14 Yeah, that dude.

Russell Peters 27:14 Yeah, I met him last night.

Joe Rogan 27:15 Great guy. Uh, Hank told me about, uh, this book, and he was raving about it. And boy was he right. It's amazing.

Russell Peters 27:22 So are these, um, uh, uh, the stories told from-

Joe Rogan 27:25 Yes.

Russell Peters 27:25 ... notes he left?

Joe Rogan 27:26 Yes, notes he left, and then, uh, you know, him telling a story back home when he got, when he eventually, uh, got rescued. Or made it back to Spain, which I believe happened. I don't know, 'cause I'm always-

Russell Peters 27:36 Wait, where did he s-

Joe Rogan 27:38 ... They landed s-

Russell Peters 27:39 In modern day...

Joe Rogan 27:40 They landed in Florida.

Russell Peters 27:42 Okay.

Joe Rogan 27:42 And they made their way across Florida, and then they w- got to the Gulf of Mexico. They did all this with rafts. They, they sailed, like, I don't know how many fucking miles in rafts. And then they got attacked multiple times by Indians when they would get to shore. And some Indians took care of them, and some Indians attacked them and killed them. And, oh, what a fucking harrowing journey, man. I mean, I'm on chapter, I think I'm on chapter eight now. And so far, they've been at it for 10... I think he's been in America for 10 years at this point.

Russell Peters 28:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 28:17 Or close to it.

Russell Peters 28:18 How many people are with him?

Joe Rogan 28:19 Six years? Seven years? Well, they got down to four. 'Cause it-

Russell Peters 28:23 Started with-

Joe Rogan 28:24 Spoiler alert, 400.

Russell Peters 28:26 Wow.

Joe Rogan 28:26 Everybody died, except four dudes.

Russell Peters 28:28 Wow.

Joe Rogan 28:29 It's fucking crazy, dude. It is a crazy story. And it also details, like, what it was like in North America in that time. Like, the Mayan civilization, the Aztecs, the Native Americans. It's, it's amazing. I love stories about, like, the, like, what it was like hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Because in the, in the... If you look at the world in terms of, like, the hundreds of millions of years of people, or that, um, rather hundreds of millions of years that life has been here on Earth, and then look at the amount of years that people have been here... We've only been here, like, 300,000 years, 400,000 years-

Russell Peters 29:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:07 ... whatever it's been. Then you go, like, 500 years ago, which is what this is.

Russell Peters 29:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 29:12 That's nothing. That's nothing. It's a blink of an eye.

Russell Peters 29:15 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:15 But my God, it's so different, in every way.

Russell Peters 29:18 I mean, you look at 100 years ago and it's so different.

Joe Rogan 29:20 Yeah. It's crazy. But this is, this is really wild, man.

Russell Peters 29:23 Like, our civilization itself has leaps and bounds, like...

Joe Rogan 29:27 Yeah.

Russell Peters 29:27 It's almost puzzling that we never fucking came across any of this stuff 500 years ago. Like, we never thought about doing any of these things.

Joe Rogan 29:35 Well, we didn't have safety.

Russell Peters 29:38 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 29:38 See, this is the thing that humans need to innovate. They need safety.

Russell Peters 29:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:42 They need quiet and they need, like, peace. You can't be, like, fighting off catapults with fucking flaming bodies headed your way-

Russell Peters 29:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:49 ... like the Mongols were doing, or, you know-... when you're fighting wars constantly and you're constantly being invaded and you're worried about people raping your women and stealing your food, there's no innovation. You, you're not gonna get anything done. It's like, when things get safe-

Russell Peters 30:05 But they still had, like, their medicine men, and I'm sure they had, like, their, at the, you know, what would be the tech people of the time that they would... You know, these would be the warriors that would go out and do that, and then they would protect these people.

Joe Rogan 30:16 Mm-hmm.

Russell Peters 30:17 To-

Joe Rogan 30:18 Yeah.

Russell Peters 30:18 ... you know, to innovate the village or whatever.

Joe Rogan 30:19 There was no innovation. I mean, all the, the medicine men, like, what were they? They knew some herbs and some plants and some things that were good for you. But for the most part, you're fucked.

Russell Peters 30:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:28 You get sick, you're fucked. If you break your leg, you're fucked. You know, most of the time, you're fucked.

Russell Peters 30:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:34 A lot of it was you're fucked.

Russell Peters 30:36 We went back to being fucked again, somehow.

Joe Rogan 30:38 Ah, barely.

Russell Peters 30:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:39 We barely did. But I mean, this is, these tr- the trend of moving towards good things has good aspects and bad aspects, right? And the bad aspects is you could not make a movie like Step Brothers anymore.

Russell Peters 30:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:52 These things, pe- people are trying to make things so safe.

Russell Peters 30:55 We evolved to devolve. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:57 Mm-hmm. Yeah, we got a little crazy.

Russell Peters 30:59 Yeah. Hopefully, this all goes away. I have problems with it, you know. I have problems with it.

Joe Rogan 31:06 It'll balance out a little bit.

Russell Peters 31:07 It will because it's a, we're, we're, it, it, there's this really weird balance of, uh, of being told to be tolerant while the people-

Joe Rogan 31:16 Being intolerant.

Russell Peters 31:16 ... te- yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:17 Yeah.

Russell Peters 31:17 It's a very fucking... I don't understand.

Joe Rogan 31:19 Well-

Russell Peters 31:19 But you want me to tolerate you, but you, you're not gonna tolerate-

Joe Rogan 31:22 Yeah.

Russell Peters 31:22 ... my adjustment time.

Joe Rogan 31:24 Well, the, the compassionate people are the biggest bullies online. (laughs) It's like-

Russell Peters 31:29 Yeah. Well, it's fake compassion, right?

Joe Rogan 31:30 Yeah. Well, it's, they, they think they're doing-

Russell Peters 31:32 They're im-passion.

Joe Rogan 31:32 ... the right thing, they think they're doing the right thing. They really do. They think they're doing the right thing. And they think they're fighting against oppression and bigotry and all these other things. And in their mind, that's, that's, that's the quest, that's what they're doing.

Russell Peters 31:47 Yeah. I was walking around Austin yesterday, and, uh, there's a ACLU booth in the middle of nowhere on Congress.

Joe Rogan 31:55 Mm-hmm.

Russell Peters 31:55 And, uh, this Black dude standing there, and he sees me and he goes, "Hey, uh, you're that guy." And I go, "Hey, you're that Black guy." And there was two white girls with him, and they were like, "Oh my God, did he just call you a Black guy?" And I'm like-

Joe Rogan 32:07 (laughs)

Russell Peters 32:07 ... "D- do you think I'm the fucking guy that broke the news to him?" I go, "He knows."

Joe Rogan 32:12 Well, not only that, if he knows you, he knows you so much of your material is racial.

Russell Peters 32:16 Well, I just, you know, I, I, when I meet people-

Joe Rogan 32:18 Yeah.

Russell Peters 32:18 ... I like to talk to them on their level, you know.

Joe Rogan 32:20 Yeah.

Russell Peters 32:20 I'm not gonna come here and say, "Joe, there's this new Reign DJ system," and you're gonna be like, "Okay." (laughs) You know. You wanna talk to people on a level where you wanna... I wanna let them know, "I recognize this about you, and then we'll go from there."

Joe Rogan 32:35 Well, your comedy is that. Like, your comedy is, like, pointing out racial differences, but ultimately bringing everybody together through humor.

Russell Peters 32:43 Right.

Joe Rogan 32:43 If he knows who you are, he knows that's what you do.

Russell Peters 32:46 Yeah, he smiled.

Joe Rogan 32:47 It's always... Yeah, 'cause it's always friendly-

Russell Peters 32:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:49 ... and warm-hearted, and it's, it's, it's playful. It's all playful fun.

Russell Peters 32:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:54 You know? But, like, I've seen you get yelled at before about this, like, online. People get upset at you-

Russell Peters 33:01 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:01 ... for your comedy. It's like, come on, man. You don't have to listen. You don't have to watch it. But obviously, the fucking arena's packed.

Russell Peters 33:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:07 People are enjoying this.

Russell Peters 33:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:09 There's n- there's definitely a group of people that don't agree with you.

Russell Peters 33:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:13 They're not wrong.

Russell Peters 33:14 I, I, I always say the people that wanna cancel you aren't the people that were ever gonna buy a ticket to see you.

Joe Rogan 33:18 Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

Russell Peters 33:19 So, I'm not really worried about appeasing them (laughs) when I wanna keep my constituents, uh, you know, happy.

Joe Rogan 33:25 Exactly. Yeah. It's... You know, people can just decide that what you do is no longer appropriate. But, but to who? To you? It was never appropriate to you.

Russell Peters 33:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:34 You didn't like it in the first place.

Russell Peters 33:35 There was never a time you were going to enjoy me.

Joe Rogan 33:38 Yeah.

Russell Peters 33:38 And if there was, then you're, uh, you know, it's a fucking odd time.

Joe Rogan 33:42 It's a weird time, Russell, but it's also a weird time for them. It's like, they, you know, they're, they're getting sucked into these ideologies too. They're getting sucked into all this groupthink. And there's so little, like, real one-on-one interaction when it comes to these kind of ideas and talking about things and what's appropriate-

Russell Peters 33:59 That's-

Joe Rogan 33:59 ... and what's not appropriate.

Russell Peters 34:00 ... that's what the problem is. There needs to be more conversations happening.

Joe Rogan 34:03 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Russell Peters 34:04 Like, if I have questions about... I have a trans friend, and I ask her questions all the time, that if you d- if you didn't know her and I were friends, you'd be like, "Are you attacking this person?" I'm like, "No, I'm asking fucking questions so I can get some clarity, so I understand the situation better."

Joe Rogan 34:20 Yeah, it's funny that, like, there's some things you can make fun of, and it's okay. And everyone knows that you don't mean anything bad by it, you're just making fun. There's certain things you can make fun of.

Russell Peters 34:32 Well, yeah, when you're friends.

Joe Rogan 34:33 Yeah.

Russell Peters 34:33 You know what I mean? So when y- once you're friends with somebody, you, you enter this other world of ball-breaking.

Joe Rogan 34:39 Yeah.

Russell Peters 34:40 And, and if you don't know the person, you're attacking them. I'm like, "No." (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 34:43 It's ball-breaking.

Russell Peters 34:44 "I would never attack this person. They're my friend."

Joe Rogan 34:46 Well, it's weird, too, to me, that, like, the, the Trump administration, during the time that Trump was president, really showed some hypocritical thinking by a lot of people. Because one of the things you're never supposed to attack is someone's body. You're not supposed to body shame.

Russell Peters 35:00 Right.

Joe Rogan 35:00 But what was the thing they always attacked? He's got little hands. He's probably got a little dick. Look at his fucked-up hair.

Russell Peters 35:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:05 Look how fat he is.

Russell Peters 35:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:06 Like, it was all body shaming.

Russell Peters 35:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:08 We-

Russell Peters 35:08 Remember when the doctor said he's, uh, perfectly healthy, and everyone was like, "No, he's not. Look at him."

Joe Rogan 35:11 Yeah.

Russell Peters 35:11 I'm like, "Who are you to fucking tell?" You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 35:14 I didn't believe that doctor either, though.

Russell Peters 35:16 I didn't believe that doctor either.

Joe Rogan 35:16 That doctor's full of shit. That doctor's, like, got one eye looking that way.

Russell Peters 35:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:21 What the fuck are you saying?

Russell Peters 35:22 The version of him that I saw... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:24 Yeah. Like, what are you saying, he's perfectly healthy? C- but compared to what? Like, if he's gonna be in the Olympics?

Russell Peters 35:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:30 Like, what are you saying?

Russell Peters 35:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:31 How can he be perfectly healthy? He's never worked out a day in his life. He's nothing but cheeseburgers and speed. And he's 75 years old.

Russell Peters 35:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:38 Get the fuck outta here. He's not healthy. (laughs)

Russell Peters 35:40 And he's-

Joe Rogan 35:41 He's alive, though.

Russell Peters 35:42 Yeah. We- well, you know, same with Joe Biden, you know. When I watch him talk even, I'm like, "Oh, come on, Joey."

Joe Rogan 35:48 Well, that's the weirdest one, when people try to defend that. They try to say-

Russell Peters 35:51 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 35:51 ... there's nothing wrong with him. They've kinda abandoned that now. They-

Russell Peters 35:54 Yeah, because it's becoming more and more apparent.

Joe Rogan 35:56 Well, it's worse.

Russell Peters 35:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:58 It's... The stress of the job is intolerable. Uh, and w- for anybody. If, if you, if you got a 35-year-old super healthy person in that job, uh, in a year or two, th- they would be a much more broken-down version of themselves. It's just an impossible job.

Russell Peters 36:15 Yeah. If you think kids will age you...

Joe Rogan 36:17 ... right.

Russell Peters 36:17 Become the president of the United States and watch. Look at Obama. His hair started black.

Joe Rogan 36:21 Mm-hmm.

Russell Peters 36:21 He finished, it was white.

Joe Rogan 36:22 Right.

Russell Peters 36:23 You know-

Joe Rogan 36:23 Yeah.

Russell Peters 36:23 ... it's, it's the same thing.

Joe Rogan 36:24 Bush too. If you look at Bush early in office, then look at him late in office, I mean, it's not a real four years or eight years that he's aging.

Russell Peters 36:31 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:32 It's, like, decades. Decades.

Russell Peters 36:33 I wonder, uh, I wonder what his telomeres are saying after that.

Joe Rogan 36:35 Short as fuck.

Russell Peters 36:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:36 I'm short, dying. It's like a-

Russell Peters 36:39 It's like-

Joe Rogan 36:39 Like Trump's dick. Get it?

Russell Peters 36:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:40 Bah!

Russell Peters 36:41 His little, little telomere hands?

Joe Rogan 36:43 (laughs)

Russell Peters 36:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:43 There's no way. There's no way you could do that job. Nobody could do that job. Everybody gets beaten down.

Russell Peters 36:48 And everyone's like, "If I was-" I'm like, "Go for it, stupid. Go for it. I wanna see how long you last."

Joe Rogan 36:52 The thing is, Trump seemed to handle it, ironically, better than anybody that's ever done it. Like, he seemed to age the least amount in that, during that time in office. And he was the most embattled.

Russell Peters 37:04 It's true. I'll give you that, for sure.

Joe Rogan 37:05 It's true. Whether you're a supporter or not. And I constantly get accused of being a Trump supporter. I never-

Russell Peters 37:10 I- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:10 I did not vote for him. I'm not a Trump supporter. Not, not. It's not true.

Russell Peters 37:15 I- I- I know you- I know you to be then, so, okay.

Joe Rogan 37:16 It's crazy that people keep accusing me of it.

Russell Peters 37:18 I- I like when I watch people accuse you of things I know you're not.

Joe Rogan 37:21 (laughs)

Russell Peters 37:21 And I just sit there and I giggle. My favorite is, he's a racist. I'm like, "Oh, he's terrible at it if he is."

Joe Rogan 37:26 I'm a horrible racist.

Russell Peters 37:27 He's the worst racist I've ever met in my life. (laughs) You really gotta work on this racist thing, Joe.

Joe Rogan 37:31 It's a lot of work.

Russell Peters 37:32 (clears throat) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:33 It's, uh, there's too many cool people on the other side. You have to ignore so much.

Russell Peters 37:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:37 If y- if you really wanted to be a racist, you'd have to ignore so many cool people. Like-

Russell Peters 37:41 Yeah, I saw- (laughs) I saw- I saw a picture of a- (laughs) it was a Klan rally. And, you know, it was all the white power stuff and the guy was wearing Jordans. I'm like, "Uh."

Joe Rogan 37:50 (blows raspberry)

Russell Peters 37:50 (laughs) I'm like, "Wait a minute, dude."

Joe Rogan 37:52 (laughs)

Russell Peters 37:53 "I hate Black people, but their goddamn shoes are fantastic."

Joe Rogan 37:56 Ugh, it's so dumb. It's the dumbest thing of all time. Being a racist is literally the dumbest thing.

Russell Peters 38:00 It's a- uh, see, racism is the one that- that makes me laugh 'cause I'm like, "There's no way you can really..." Like, there's- there may be people in the group that you don't like, and that's everybody. Everybody has that feeling. There's somebody in- in one race that I didn't like, but that doesn't mean the whole fucking race is tainted to me.

Joe Rogan 38:16 Well, that's w- well, first of all, it's dumb because all of us came out of one place. They- they think now-

Russell Peters 38:22 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 38:22 ... this is what they think about human beings, that ... This is a weird theory too. They're trying to ... I'll send you this, Jamie, 'cause it's really strange. They're not even sure if this is r- th- this is, like, a theory that they're working on now. Um, they- they think that it's possible that ... First of all, they think that, um, monkeys and primates came originally from Asia. Here, I'm sending this to you right now, Jamie. And, uh, then we evolved and became humans in Africa. The thing is, they don't know-

Russell Peters 38:56 How the monkey got to Africa.

Joe Rogan 38:56 ... how primates got from Asia to Africa. I just sent it to you. Um, it's-

Russell Peters 39:02 It's a long journey.

Joe Rogan 39:03 But they think they might've fucking floated over. It's r- it's a really interesting thing. But my point is, all of us are African. Everyone is African.

Russell Peters 39:12 Yes.

Joe Rogan 39:13 If you go back to the origins of human beings, everyone is African.

Russell Peters 39:16 That's where we started walking.

Joe Rogan 39:17 That's everybody.

Russell Peters 39:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:19 And then humans branched out. So, even the idea of race itself is kinda preposterous. We vary because our ancestors developed in different climates.

Russell Peters 39:29 Well, one of the, uh, the, um, arguments from the- the- the racist side is that their theory is that white people are more evolved, hence why they look least like monkeys. And I'm like-

Joe Rogan 39:40 It's so dumb.

Russell Peters 39:41 ... and I'm like, "I don't understand this fucking theory." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:44 Well, it's a dumb theory because it doesn't understand why people became white in the first place is 'cause we moved to a shitty climate-

Russell Peters 39:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:50 ... where there's no fucking sunlight.

Russell Peters 39:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:51 And so, the human skin, when not exposed to sunlight, gets paler and paler in a desperate attempt to soak up vitamin D.

Russell Peters 40:00 Right, but then you have the Native Americans who were a little swarthy.

Joe Rogan 40:03 Swarthy? What do you mean?

Russell Peters 40:04 Swarthy. A little- a little darker, you know?

Joe Rogan 40:06 Well, they came from Siberia.

Russell Peters 40:08 All of them?

Joe Rogan 40:08 Yeah. That's, uh ... Pretty much. They think that. They think it's this-

Russell Peters 40:12 Uh, there was a very, uh, common look between the two.

Joe Rogan 40:15 Mm-hmm. Well, they think-

Russell Peters 40:16 And I-

Joe Rogan 40:16 ... it's- it's- it's also possible that there were some, uh ... I mean, because we're dealing with, when we talk about Native Americans, you're dealing with like, uh, pre-Ice Age ... Obviously, I'm not a historian, so take this with a grain of salt.

Russell Peters 40:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:30 Or a whole bag. But, uh, if you- if you're dealing with, um, people that were, uh, in North America, like pre-Ice Age and during the Ice Age, they came down the Bering Strait, they think. They came across the Bering Land Bridge from Asia, but they-

Russell Peters 40:45 And the Mongolians.

Joe Rogan 40:46 ... they go ... But there's also some possible evidence that people came on boats as well. They don't really know-

Russell Peters 40:51 They would have to have.

Joe Rogan 40:52 Yeah. They don't know where the Olmecs came from. That's a- that's a real weird one. Those are folks that lived, uh, somewhere in South America that have African features.

Russell Peters 41:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 41:02 Yeah, they don't even ... They- and they have these big stone heads that were carved that were like 6,000 plus years old.

Russell Peters 41:08 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 41:08 And they're like, "Okay, well, where are these guys come from?" They don't know. So there's- there's still some pieces to the puzzle that needs to be solved. But a large percentage of Native American civilization came out of Asia. They walked across. They, somehow or another, made it to North America and spread out. That's their theory.

Russell Peters 41:27 Yeah. There- there's that island off of, uh, near India, somewhere between India and Sri Lanka, that has, uh-

Joe Rogan 41:33 North Sentinel Island.

Russell Peters 41:34 That's the one, right?

Joe Rogan 41:34 Yes.

Russell Peters 41:34 With the, uh, with the Black-looking people.

Joe Rogan 41:37 Yes. Well, they've- were from Africa.

Russell Peters 41:39 Right.

Joe Rogan 41:39 And they-

Russell Peters 41:39 And they stayed there.

Joe Rogan 41:40 Yes. They- they got in boats 60,000 years ago, and they landed in this island, and they can't figure out how to get out. They get stuck because there's- they don't-

Russell Peters 41:50 And they're still very primitive.

Joe Rogan 41:51 Yes, because they don't have metallurgy. Um, they're not even necessarily sure if they use fire. It's really interesting.

Russell Peters 41:59 To this day?

Joe Rogan 41:59 Yeah, to this day. There's- they're- they believe ... I mean, you're not supposed to visit them 'cause it's like one of the rear- the rare true uncontacted tribes left on Earth.

Russell Peters 42:08 Yeah, they- wasn't it that guy that went there and he got killed?

Joe Rogan 42:10 Yes.

Russell Peters 42:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:11 Yeah, I have a whole bit about it.

Russell Peters 42:12 Do you? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:13 Yeah, about the, uh, the- the missionary. He went to bring them Bibles.

Russell Peters 42:16 Yeah, that'll fucking teach you.

Joe Rogan 42:17 (sighs) Well, it was a poor idea. He's a poor bastard.

Russell Peters 42:20 I mean, the last thing, like- the- the last thing they needed is that. Couldn't you give him fire first, for fuck sakes?

Joe Rogan 42:24 Well, these people had been fucked with too. There's, um-There was a man named Commander Maurice Vidal Portman who ve- and he was a, like an explorer/pervert who would travel the seas and find these tribes of people and like, like t- make them pose and take pictures with them like wearing weird clothes and shit.

Russell Peters 42:44 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 42:45 Yeah. And he visited that place. He v- visited a couple other places and they think that people like that, that visited, that exploited these folks and fucked with these folks, gave them a, uh, very hostile take on intruders. And so when people come, like that guy who came with the Bibles-

Russell Peters 43:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:03 ... he probably didn't do his history, didn't read up on what ha- had happened to these folks. He thought he was just gonna bring the Bibles and-

Russell Peters 43:09 Yeah, I got the good word, guys.

Joe Rogan 43:11 That poor bastard. Just like, you know, he got killed with a bow and arrow on the beach holding a Bible. I mean, that is a rough way to go.

Russell Peters 43:19 I mean, at least he was holding his Bible.

Joe Rogan 43:21 Maybe. At least.

Russell Peters 43:22 It's like Saint Dominic who died with, uh, holding the, uh, I think he was holding a Bible when he got killed or something.

Joe Rogan 43:27 Was he? The weird ones, the, the, or I shouldn't say the weird ones, the, the more tragic ones currently are the ones that are in the Amazon, because they get murdered by logging companies.

Russell Peters 43:37 Yes.

Joe Rogan 43:38 And, uh-

Russell Peters 43:38 They're trying to wipe 'em out so they get those trees.

Joe Rogan 43:40 Mm-hmm. Exactly. They find them to be, uh, a impediment to their, their... I mean, not just trees, whatever natural resources they have that they're trying to exploit in the Amazon, and you know, they, they find these people slaughtered. And it, it happens. And you know, and also activists against these people attacking, they wind up getting murdered as well.

Russell Peters 44:00 Yeah, because they don't know the difference.

Joe Rogan 44:02 Well, it's not even just that. It's like they, they cause trouble for them.

Russell Peters 44:05 Right.

Joe Rogan 44:05 Like they're causing trouble for these companies that are trying to exploit the natural resources of these areas.

Russell Peters 44:12 It's a very interesting time we're living in.

Joe Rogan 44:15 Dude, the, do you know that... Here's what's crazy. Do you know a lot of the Amazon rainforest, which is this fucking insanely dense, incredible rainforest, a lot of it used to be populated and a lot of the growth there is actually because of humans. A lot of the plants and the reason why it's so dense is because of the stuff that human beings planted there thousands of years ago.

Russell Peters 44:39 And now we're trying to get rid of it.

Joe Rogan 44:40 Well, it's not even just that we're trying to get rid of it. They're just starting to understand like the whole ecosystem of that area, like why these, why it's so dense and what, what caused all this, what caused all this intense, uh, like vegetation and brush, and they think it's possible that a lot of it was caused by human beings. See, find out what tree that is that they planted, but there's some insanely prolific tree that they were, uh, that they were harvesting and planting in these areas and it took over. Like y- you ever hear of that s- The Lost City of Z? You ever remember that?

Russell Peters 45:13 The movie, yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:14 Yeah. That movie apparently was based on what, what would happen when these explorers had originally come there. Supposedly pristine, untouched Amazon rainforest was actually shaped by humans. Over thousands of years, native people planted a strong, played a strong role in molding the ecology of this vast wilderness. So, we assume that you see this dense jungle, oh, it's untouched, but it, it actually, they don't think it was. Um, so here it goes. Uh, described region of the world in 1991 book making, marking the 500th anniversary of Christopher Columbus v- uh, voyage to the New World. The native people were transparent in the landscape, living as natural elements in the ecosphere. Their world was a world of barely perceptible human disturbance. But was it really? In a less... How do you say that word? Rhapsodical-

Russell Peters 46:03 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 46:03 ... rhapsodical verse.

Russell Peters 46:04 There is that word.

Joe Rogan 46:04 Scholars in the past quarter century have shown that this mythical image of untouched nature is just that, a myth. Like humans everywhere, Native Americans shaped their environments to suit them through burning, pruning, tilling and other practices, and the Amazon is no different. If you look closer, you see the deep impressions that humans have made on the world's largest tropical rain f- rainforest, scientists reported yesterday in the journal Science. De- despite its vastness, the Amazon stretches more than two million square miles and an estimated 390 billion trees. This rainforest is hardly the untamable, unstoppable force of nature that the romantics opined, says Jose Iriarte?

Russell Peters 46:46 Iriarte.

Joe Rogan 46:46 Yeah, an archaeologist at the University of Exeter. In fact, humans have inhabited the Amazon for roughly 13,000 years and have been domesticating plants for at least 8,000, and recent archaeological studies, especially in the last two decades showed that indigenous populations in the past were more numerous, more complex, and had a greater impact on the largest and most biodiverse tropical rainforests in the world than had previously thought, than previously thought.

Russell Peters 47:13 What's the, uh, lifespan of the, uh, those, those untouched humans?

Joe Rogan 47:19 I don't know, man. Not, not so good. But hold on a second, here's a... Stop right there. Um, colleagues were ta- taking inventory of the vast diversity of the Amazon, uh, trees. They sampled 1,100 scattered plots far from modern human inhabitants to identify more than 16,000 different species among those 390 billion individual plants, then they noticed something odd. Despite the broad diversity, over half of the total trees were made up of just over 1% of the species. About 20 of these hyperdominant plants were domesticated species such as the Brazil nut, the Amazon tree grape, and the ice cream bean tree. That was five times the amount researchers expected if the chances were the only fact- if chance was the only factor. The hypothesis came up that perhaps people might have domesticated these species which would have helped their abundance in the Amazon. So the thing, they think they had domesticated these species that they used for food and then these species took over and just dominated the, uh, the ecosphere.

Russell Peters 48:26 ... like a wild weed?

Joe Rogan 48:27 Yeah. They, they've also started using something called LiDAR. And LiDAR is something that they use from planes, and they scan the rainforest. And underneath this insane, dense, vast jungle, they-

Russell Peters 48:39 The LiDAR can see through-

Joe Rogan 48:40 Yeah.

Russell Peters 48:40 ... the bush, the, the thickness?

Joe Rogan 48:41 It can see through everything into the ground, and they've found these grids that indicate that there were cities there.

Russell Peters 48:47 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:48 So, all this shit that's incredibly dense and, and filled with trees now, at one point in time had complex, like, roadways and irrigation systems. And they think that the, the latest theory is that explorers-

Russell Peters 49:03 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 49:03 ... when they came there, like this, uh, Cabeza de Vaca-

Russell Peters 49:05 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:06 ... dude and these others that came from Europe, probably gave these people the plague. They probably gave these people diseases, just like they did to... 90% of all Native Americans were wiped out by disease-

Russell Peters 49:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:16 ... brought by European explorers.

Russell Peters 49:17 By the blankets.

Joe Rogan 49:18 They think that... That's, I don't think that's true. I think the blanket part is fake. It's just being around them that killed.

Russell Peters 49:23 The smallpox and all that?

Joe Rogan 49:24 I think, I think maybe there probably was some people that gave people dirty blankets, but-

Russell Peters 49:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:28 ... that's not what spread it. It was just disease, just the fact that Europeans were dirty. They came over on boats filled with rats and shit, and fucking brought horrible diseases-

Russell Peters 49:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:38 ... that these Native Americans didn't have any immune system for. Well, they think the same thing probably happened in the Amazon. And so these, like, city of the w- the Lost City of Z, they think that these cities really did exist, that they did have these incredible cities. And then, when they came back just 20, 30 years later looking for these places, all they found was jungle.

Russell Peters 49:57 It was overgrown.

Joe Rogan 49:58 'Cause the people were dead.

Russell Peters 49:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:59 'Cause the people died from the plague, and then everything got overgrown, like quickly by the jungle.

Russell Peters 50:03 And then the dead bodies probably fertilized the soil, which-

Joe Rogan 50:06 Bro.

Russell Peters 50:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:08 Bro.

Russell Peters 50:09 So, these are human-

Joe Rogan 50:09 This is history-

Russell Peters 50:10 These trees are human trees, basically.

Joe Rogan 50:11 History from morons, for your pleasure.

Russell Peters 50:14 You're welcome, kids.

Joe Rogan 50:15 Yeah. G- g- google all this stuff. Read from real sources. But it is interesting, because you could see how this could happen, you know? And it really is a, a... The world is a wild place, man. And when human beings start doing what Cabeza de Vaca and Cortés did, and all these other folks did back in the day, where they would travel to these new places, they would bring disease, and they would kill off a lot of people that were there. They think that's what happened to the Mayans too, you know? Incredible civilization, beautiful structures.

Russell Peters 50:45 Yeah, they had, they had a huge, uh...

Joe Rogan 50:46 Yeah.

Russell Peters 50:46 Huge cities, the Mayans.

Joe Rogan 50:48 Yeah. Yeah.

Russell Peters 50:48 And some of it still standing, you know?

Joe Rogan 50:50 Oh yeah, man. It's still to this day, fucking in- incredibly gorgeous, beautiful structures that were, that, um, they, they mapped out the, the cosmos. They, like, mirrored the cosmos. They mirrored a lot of the constellations, you know?

Russell Peters 51:04 I'm excited.

Joe Rogan 51:06 About what?

Russell Peters 51:06 About just learning about all this stuff.

Joe Rogan 51:08 Yeah.

Russell Peters 51:08 You know, I l- I like... I'm all about, uh... You know, I'm not so impressed by the tree, but I'm more... I'm, I wanna know who planted that tree, you know? It's a very similar...

Joe Rogan 51:16 People tr-... People trying to live, man. That's the thing, right? They were just trying to get by, just trying to stay alive.

Russell Peters 51:25 Then we gotta find their, their writings. That's...

Joe Rogan 51:27 Yeah.

Russell Peters 51:28 Problem is we find the writings and we need to find someone who can trans- uh, translate these writings.

Joe Rogan 51:33 Well, the Mayan writings are weird. They're kind of like a hieroglyph type deal, but I think the, the w- the way the Mayans writing would work, they would have images that represented sounds, like, uh, like you would have an... Someone explained this. I forget. I think it might've been McKenna. Like, the way it would be written, so like, you'd have an eye, and then you'd have the sea, and then you'd have an ant, like the bug, and then you would have a rose, like a flower. And that would be how you say, "I see Aunt Rose."

Russell Peters 52:08 Yeah, that's exactly how I read that when you said it in my head.

Joe Rogan 52:11 Yeah.

Russell Peters 52:11 And I thought I was being funny in my head. I was like, "I see Aunt Rose."

Joe Rogan 52:13 No, you were right. Yeah. It's... I forget what that kind of language is called. There's this very specific... It's a specific kind of language.

Russell Peters 52:20 It's almost like they were talking emojis.

Joe Rogan 52:23 Right.

Russell Peters 52:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:24 Fucking Jaime had this idea, uh, a while ago.

Russell Peters 52:27 I don't think you're Jaime, but a lot of your ideas...

Joe Rogan 52:27 Jaime was saying... Like, we were talking about, like, sending emojis to go. He goes, h- he goes, "Do you think that, like, maybe eventually that will be our language?" That, like, if emojis would be... And we were, we were both... I think we were pretty high at the time.

Speaker 52:41 Eas- easily. Easy, could happen.

Joe Rogan 52:43 Possibly.

Speaker 52:44 I mean.

Russell Peters 52:44 I c- I can't see you being high, Joe. That's weird.

Joe Rogan 52:45 And we were saying, um, that could eventually evolve to be the next language, 'cause how many times do your friends-

Russell Peters 52:52 Is it an evolution or is it a devolution? Are we going back to that?

Joe Rogan 52:55 Well, it depends on how well it communicates, right? If it communicates really well, like right now, like if someone sends you, like, eggplant and then water and then the crying tear face, like...

Russell Peters 53:05 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:05 That's probably like...

Russell Peters 53:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:07 It's just funny, you know?

Russell Peters 53:08 Yeah, I love doing that to people.

Joe Rogan 53:09 Yeah, it's fun.

Russell Peters 53:09 It's my favorite, you know.

Joe Rogan 53:10 It's fun.

Russell Peters 53:11 I try to have whole emoji conversations with people sometimes.

Joe Rogan 53:14 (laughs)

Russell Peters 53:14 Just to, just to fuck with them, you know?

Joe Rogan 53:16 You're, you're kind of getting something across, but what if, eventually, emojis became like a universal language, right? Like...

Russell Peters 53:24 It kind of has been, because you can communicate with people through emoji.

Joe Rogan 53:28 Sure. And people that don't even speak English.

Russell Peters 53:30 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:30 You communicate with them with a lot of emojis.

Russell Peters 53:32 Because they're all common denominators for everybody.

Joe Rogan 53:34 Yeah. Not the, not the best way of communicating.

Russell Peters 53:38 No, same. They're not the best, but, you know, it's helpful.

Joe Rogan 53:40 Yeah, yeah. But one day, maybe they'll have better emojis or another kind, like maybe some sort of three-dimensional emoji that, like, you know, works with AR, you know, augmented reality. So it gives you like a, a real inclination of what the person is trying to say without knowing their language.

Russell Peters 53:59 Yeah, like when I was about to... When, when my friend texted me before I came here, he was like, "Hey, good luck on..." And he didn't say, "Rogan." He sent me a gorilla.

Joe Rogan 54:06 (laughs)

Russell Peters 54:06 (laughs) Good luck on... And I was like, "What? Hey, what is that?" He goes, "Rogan." He goes, "Fucking gorilla." I go, "Yeah, he is a gorilla." Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:15 I'm more of a chimp.

Russell Peters 54:17 I don't know. I think you're very silverback-ish.

Joe Rogan 54:19 Hmm. No. You ever seen a, a full-grown chimp? They re- resemble me a lot.

Russell Peters 54:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:24 Especially if I lift a lot. If I'm lifting and I'm in a heavy lifting phase.

Russell Peters 54:27 No, you do have those apish-ly long arms, you know?

Joe Rogan 54:30 Yeah, primitive, sad. That's why I'm so stupid too.

Russell Peters 54:33 Yeah, yeah. You're clearly not the stupid one in this room.

Joe Rogan 54:36 It's dumb genes.

Russell Peters 54:37 We- we- me and your security guys were talking, and we're like, you know, we all th- we all said... We were talking about it before you got here. We're like, "You know, we all think we know something." Then we talk to Joe, and we go, "I don't know shit."

Joe Rogan 54:46 Well, it's just me talking to so many people that know a lot and membering- remembering some of it. That's what it is. I mean, you gotta think, I'm like 1,700 deep into these fucking conversations with professors and scientists and...

Russell Peters 54:59 I like when you have Neil on.

Joe Rogan 55:00 Oh, he's coming on soon.

Russell Peters 55:01 Is he?

Joe Rogan 55:02 Yeah, I'm excited to talk to him. Yeah.

Russell Peters 55:03 He- he's a great guy, you know. I- I, uh, I had a photographer at my house, and he was a young Black kid, and he was taking some pictures of me, and he goes, uh... Because he showed me, he was wearing shorts, and I go, "Who's that on the back of your calf?" And he goes, "Oh, that's Neil deGrasse Tyson. Uh, he's my idol."

Joe Rogan 55:17 Wow.

Russell Peters 55:18 So I took a picture of his calf, and I sent it to Neil, and he goes, "You need new friends."

Joe Rogan 55:21 (laughs) That sounds like something he would say. Yeah, he's a, he's a trip.

Russell Peters 55:26 I sent it to him. I said, "A buddy of mine has you tattooed on his leg," and he goes, "You need new friends."

Joe Rogan 55:31 (laughs)

Russell Peters 55:31 "That's what he says. I'm worried about your choice in friends." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:34 Guys like him are super important.

Russell Peters 55:36 They're very.

Joe Rogan 55:36 Science communicators that are also, like, fun. Like, he's a fun guy.

Russell Peters 55:41 Yeah, he gets the message out-

Joe Rogan 55:42 Yeah.

Russell Peters 55:43 ... in a way that dumb people like myself can understand.

Joe Rogan 55:46 Exactly, exactly. And that's- that's what's important, so just to- just to be aware of the- the beauty of this mystery of this l- fucking universe that we're floating around in.

Russell Peters 55:59 And now they said... You see that they, uh... I don't know if it's real 'cause you never know what the fuck is real on the internet anymore, but they say they found some sort of, uh, fungus life on Mars.

Joe Rogan 56:07 Yes, they think. They don't know what it is. They have an image.

Russell Peters 56:10 And they said it blows away overnight or some shit.

Joe Rogan 56:12 Hmm.

Russell Peters 56:13 They were like, "It was here yesterday. It's blown away now."

Joe Rogan 56:15 Hmm.

Russell Peters 56:16 "It's some sort of fungus that can grow very quickly and then with a strong wind can go away."

Joe Rogan 56:20 Well, that makes sense because-

Russell Peters 56:21 But then you would imagine Mars would be covered in fungus-

Joe Rogan 56:24 Not necessarily.

Russell Peters 56:24 ... if it's blowing around like that.

Joe Rogan 56:26 Not necessarily because fungus exists here, but it's- we're not covered in it, and it doesn't even blow away, right?

Russell Peters 56:31 Right.

Joe Rogan 56:31 Like if you go out into, uh, a yard after rain, you'll find mushrooms that-

Russell Peters 56:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 56:35 ... weren't there the day before. They grow really quickly. You know?

Russell Peters 56:38 You ever tried those?

Joe Rogan 56:39 No, I don't know enough, and they'll kill you, you know, if you eat the wrong ones.

Russell Peters 56:43 Right.

Joe Rogan 56:44 Like, that mushroom picking business is tricky because you really have to know your stuff. There's- there's mushrooms that have extreme liver toxicity, and they look just like edible mushrooms.

Russell Peters 56:54 Right.

Joe Rogan 56:54 They're like real close. Like, you gotta know, like... I've had Paul Stamets on, and he's- he's explained to me the complex nature of understanding mi-... Like, there's some mushrooms, like if you see a morel, morels on the ground, like you ever- you ever eaten morel mushrooms?

Russell Peters 57:10 I have not.

Joe Rogan 57:11 They're really delicious, and they're very rare.

Russell Peters 57:13 What do they look like?

Joe Rogan 57:14 They look like, uh, almost like- like a hollow pine cone. They're weird looking. They're-

Russell Peters 57:19 But they're a fungus.

Joe Rogan 57:21 They're a fungus, and they grow quickly, and they grow, uh, specifically around areas that have burned.

Russell Peters 57:28 Oh, yes, I've seen a lot of fungus around burn- burn zones.

Joe Rogan 57:31 Yeah. For some reason, morels are- they're associated with burn areas. Not all the time, but people go and pick them, and, uh, they go morel hunting, and then, you know, you eat them, and they're really delicious. You- you, like, saute them with butter and garlic salt. Oh. (smacks lips) Rostl.

Russell Peters 57:50 What are you tasting though? You're tasting butter and garlic salt? Or what are you tasting?

Joe Rogan 57:52 No, you're tasting... They're- they're a meaty, chewy, delicious mushroom. They're really nice.

Russell Peters 57:57 And where do you get them?

Joe Rogan 57:59 Well, you gotta get them online or hunt them.

Russell Peters 58:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 58:01 You gotta go- go, you know, gather them.

Russell Peters 58:03 They sell them dried?

Joe Rogan 58:04 Yeah, they sell them dried. Yeah, you can buy them. You can buy them on Amazon.

Russell Peters 58:07 And then they just rehydrate once you cook them.

Joe Rogan 58:09 Yeah, you soak them. You- what I do is I- I take a, uh, like a large pot filled with water, and I'll add salt to the water.

Russell Peters 58:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:17 And I'll soak them, and, you know, a lot of dirt gets off too, so you strain it and rinse them off, and I'll soak them for a few hours and then, uh, saute them up. They're nice. I'm telling you, that's what they look like when they're cooked.

Russell Peters 58:31 Oh, I think I've had those. They are quite tasty actually.

Joe Rogan 58:32 Bro, they're delicious. They're so delicious.

Russell Peters 58:34 Especially when they're a little charred like that.

Joe Rogan 58:35 Yes, nice.

Russell Peters 58:36 I do like a little. I'm a texture guy, so I like the crunch.

Joe Rogan 58:38 Me too.

Russell Peters 58:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:40 Do you- do you enjoy Indian food? Are you an Indian food guy?

Russell Peters 58:42 I do. I love Indian food.

Joe Rogan 58:43 I fucking love Indian food.

Russell Peters 58:43 But I have acid reflux, so I gotta be careful. I gotta plan it when I'm gonna eat Indian food.

Joe Rogan 58:47 What causes that?

Russell Peters 58:48 I don't know. I've had it my whole life.

Joe Rogan 58:50 Yeah?

Russell Peters 58:50 I've literally had it my whole life. And then I went f- uh, a couple weeks ago, I went and got, uh... I had the old spit roast done to me, you know, the, uh...

Joe Rogan 58:57 Oh, did they?

Russell Peters 58:58 The colon endo job.

Joe Rogan 58:59 Hey.

Russell Peters 59:00 And- and right before I went under, I told the doctor, I said, "Put an apple in my mouth," and then I passed out.

Joe Rogan 59:05 (laughs)

Russell Peters 59:05 (laughs) And then, uh, I woke up, and he goes, "How was it?" I go, "It was fine, except for both your hands were on my shoulders."

Joe Rogan 59:12 Wah, wah, wah.

Russell Peters 59:14 Wah, wah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:15 Now, um, what do they do for you when you got the aci- acid reflux? Do they prescribe a medication?

Russell Peters 59:20 Yeah, you're on... I'm on a medication. You can also... I mean, it's also very... It's not fixable, but it's- it's manageable by what you eat as well, you know. For me, it's mostly about, uh, for sleep. If I don't get enough sleep and I decide I want to eat something-

Joe Rogan 59:34 Oh.

Russell Peters 59:34 ... that I know could trigger me, it'll really trigger me if I haven't slept enough. But if-

Joe Rogan 59:38 Oh, so like you're tired, if you're worn out.

Russell Peters 59:40 Yeah, yeah. But if I've slept enough, I could eat whatever the fuck I want and do whatever I want.

Joe Rogan 59:44 That's the same thing with getting sick, you know. It's amazing how much your immune system sort of regulates everything, and when you're tired, your immune system is weakened. And I know a lot of people that have gotten like really sick where they probably wouldn't have gotten sick because they're run- they're run down, like fighters. They're- they're training for big fights. Like a lot of people think, "Oh, fighters are in great shape. They must be really healthy."

Russell Peters 1:00:07 No, especially when they're trying to make weight.

Joe Rogan 1:00:09 Ugh.

Russell Peters 1:00:09 They dehydrate their entire body.

Joe Rogan 1:00:10 Oh my God.

Russell Peters 1:00:10 That's insane.

Joe Rogan 1:00:11 So ba- that... But even just the training itself, when they're breaking themselves down, a lot of times fighters get sick. A lot of fighters have gotten COVID, um, pretty bad because they were in the middle of fight camp, and they didn't stop training.

Russell Peters 1:00:24 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:00:25 Like Cody Garbrandt, he had COVID, he got sick, and he kept training through it. So he just kept beating his body up. Like they're too tough for their own good.

Russell Peters 1:00:33 Yeah, it's, uh, it's... Your body, you gotta listen to your body.

Joe Rogan 1:00:36 Mm-hmm.

Russell Peters 1:00:36 Especially the older you get.... just, it, you can't ignore the signs, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:00:41 Yeah. So do they tell you what you should and shouldn't eat?

Russell Peters 1:00:44 No, that's what I was hoping for.

Joe Rogan 1:00:46 Like-

Russell Peters 1:00:46 And he was like, "No, you seem fine." I'm like, "What the fuck?"

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 And what-

Russell Peters 1:00:49 It's-

Joe Rogan 1:00:49 ... does acid reflux do? Like, you, you have, like-

Russell Peters 1:00:51 It's a-

Joe Rogan 1:00:51 ... like a burp, almost? Like a-

Russell Peters 1:00:53 It's a bad burp, but you know your eyes are gonna water 'cause it burns when it gets up here.

Joe Rogan 1:00:57 Oh. So, like, that's the acid. Yeah.

Russell Peters 1:00:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:59 The stomach juices.

Russell Peters 1:01:00 Like, burns, burns. Like, my nose will run, my eyes will water.

Joe Rogan 1:01:03 Really?

Russell Peters 1:01:03 On a bad one. I've had some bad episodes. Stress'll bring it out too.

Joe Rogan 1:01:07 And how long does it last?

Russell Peters 1:01:09 I mean (sighs) it, depending on how bad of an episode I have, I, I try to control it as best I can. I'm aware of when it's gonna ... how I can n- how it's gonna affect me, when it's gonna affect me, if I eat too much, if I eat too late, or if I try to go to bed too soon after eating.

Joe Rogan 1:01:23 Have you ever tried fasting?

Russell Peters 1:01:25 Yeah, fasting's great for me.

Joe Rogan 1:01:26 Does that work? Yeah?

Russell Peters 1:01:27 Yeah, it works well for me.

Joe Rogan 1:01:28 How many days have you done?

Russell Peters 1:01:29 Oh, I don't do days. I do, like, 16 hours. Um-

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 Oh, that's good.

Russell Peters 1:01:31 ... then I'll eat something.

Joe Rogan 1:01:32 I haven't done days either. I've done 24 hours. That's the most I've ever done.

Russell Peters 1:01:35 Yeah, I, I, um ... Well, recently, I just, I went, like, 22 hours. It wasn't I was try- I wasn't trying to. I just had gone 22 hours without eating, and I was like, "I feel fine."

Joe Rogan 1:01:45 George St-Pierre just did a three-day one. He said he felt fucking amazing. I'm thinking about trying it. I just have to time it right. You know?

Russell Peters 1:01:52 Isn't there talks of him fighting somebody again?

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 There's talks.

Russell Peters 1:01:55 There's ticks- talks of him, uh, fighting Khabib or something?

Joe Rogan 1:01:57 Yeah, but I don't think Khabib is gonna fight again, and I don't think George is gonna either. I think George is done. You know, George is, uh, very happy and comfortable with his life now and he's got his health.

Russell Peters 1:02:07 How old's George now, what, 30 f- some-

Joe Rogan 1:02:09 38.

Russell Peters 1:02:10 38. Yeah, he's, he's still got a lot of time left.

Joe Rogan 1:02:12 Not really.

Russell Peters 1:02:13 You don't think so?

Joe Rogan 1:02:13 No.

Russell Peters 1:02:14 I mean, when you're that elite-

Joe Rogan 1:02:16 Yes.

Russell Peters 1:02:16 ... and you, and you don't let yourself go, ever.

Joe Rogan 1:02:18 Right, but it, the, there's a difference between ... It's a big difference between, like, a 33-year-old Kamaru Usman and a 38-year-old George St-Pierre. There's a difference. Is, is George is the top of the food chain at 38, right?

Russell Peters 1:02:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:30 In terms of, like, how fit he is, how well he takes care of his body, doesn't abuse himself. He's always in shape and he's always working out. He's always doing something. He's always doing gymnastics. He does these pool workouts.

Russell Peters 1:02:41 Yup.

Joe Rogan 1:02:41 He's always doing jujitsu and kickboxing.

Russell Peters 1:02:43 It, he has not stopped.

Joe Rogan 1:02:44 But he's still 38.

Russell Peters 1:02:46 True. Uh, Kamaru showed a lot of, uh, improvement over the years too.

Joe Rogan 1:02:49 (laughs)

Russell Peters 1:02:49 Like, every fucking time.

Joe Rogan 1:02:50 Dude.

Russell Peters 1:02:51 Every time I see him, he's like the, he's like the Canelo of the UFC almost to me.

Joe Rogan 1:02:55 He's, he's a real champion is what he is. You know what I mean?

Russell Peters 1:02:58 I'm curious to see how Israel's gonna bounce back now.

Joe Rogan 1:03:01 Oh, he'll be fine.

Russell Peters 1:03:02 Oh, he'll be fine. I agree. I, I-

Joe Rogan 1:03:04 It's just, I just think when you're going up to 205s, you gotta go up to 205. You know, the, the ... Especially when it comes to the wrestling. Weight's real. And that guy, Jan Blachowicz, that's a scary motherfucker, that dude.

Russell Peters 1:03:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:16 That k- that guy, he ... You talk about power, like how people just have power.

Russell Peters 1:03:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:03:20 He's just got power. Like, he's got crazy, preposterous, one-punch power.

Russell Peters 1:03:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:27 And you always have to worry about that. And then, when he got Izzy down and he controlled him on the ground, he's just ... Size and strength. It's real, man. You're de- y- Izzy never gained any weight, so he, he went in and weighed in, I think, like, 190 something.

Russell Peters 1:03:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:41 Blachowicz weighed 205 and probably went up to 220-ish, you know, during the actual fight itself. So, you know, you're talking about-

Russell Peters 1:03:48 I- Israel's a thin guy to begin with.

Joe Rogan 1:03:50 Mm-hmm.

Russell Peters 1:03:50 I mean, he's gotta grow into that size, as opposed to try and put it on.

Joe Rogan 1:03:54 But he'll fight anybody, man. He doesn't give a fuck.

Russell Peters 1:03:56 He's a tough kid.

Joe Rogan 1:03:57 He'll go up to heavyweight.

Russell Peters 1:03:57 And he's a really nice kid.

Joe Rogan 1:03:59 He's the nicest.

Russell Peters 1:04:00 Oh my God. I've talked with him on, uh, Instagram. We DM'd each other-

Joe Rogan 1:04:03 Yeah.

Russell Peters 1:04:03 ... and-

Joe Rogan 1:04:03 He's the nicest.

Russell Peters 1:04:04 ... he's just a sweet guy.

Joe Rogan 1:04:05 I started contacting him long before he ever fought in the UFC.

Russell Peters 1:04:08 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:04:08 Yeah, I was asking him when he's gonna do it, uh, because I'd heard rumblings that he was thinking about making a leap into, uh, fighting MMA. And back then, he was just kickboxing and I was just a big fan of his style. Like, I mean, how could you not be? You watch his, uh, kickboxing highlight reel. Like, if you think Izzy is great in MMA, and he is, most certainly.

Russell Peters 1:04:27 I've seen some old clips of him. He's fantastic.

Joe Rogan 1:04:29 Fucking kickboxing, he's a genius, man.

Russell Peters 1:04:31 And he's so thin, but he's got a lot of power. I mean-

Joe Rogan 1:04:33 Oh, well, he's so accurate. He's just so-

Russell Peters 1:04:36 He's very Anderson-ish.

Joe Rogan 1:04:37 He's creative and intelligent and sharp and ev-

Russell Peters 1:04:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:41 ... y- y- everything he does when he's fighting-

Russell Peters 1:04:42 He's not ring worn.

Joe Rogan 1:04:43 Right.

Russell Peters 1:04:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:44 Yeah. He's, he's only been KO'd once and that was a brutal one against, uh, Alex Pereira, who's this ruthless knockout striker.

Russell Peters 1:04:51 And that was in, uh-

Joe Rogan 1:04:53 That was in Glo- I think it was in Glory. Might not have been in Glory. Might've been in another kickboxing league. I'm not sure. I think it was Glory. But either way, Alex is a, um, two-division Glory kickboxing champion.

Russell Peters 1:05:04 Did they have a rematch?

Joe Rogan 1:05:05 They fought twice. Um, Alex won a decision the first time and he KO'd him the second time.

Russell Peters 1:05:10 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:05:11 Yeah.

Russell Peters 1:05:12 I think this is-

Joe Rogan 1:05:12 I think the first fight was close. The second fight, um, Izzy had him in real trouble too. He had him really in trouble. And a lot of people thought that the fight should've been stopped, but that's probably Izzy fans, you know what I mean?

Russell Peters 1:05:26 Yeah, there's a-

Joe Rogan 1:05:27 Like-

Russell Peters 1:05:27 ... lot of that when that happens.

Joe Rogan 1:05:28 It's ... When a guy should and shouldn't be stopped is so controversial, you know? It's like, Cowboy Cerrone this weekend, right? The Alex Morino fight.

Russell Peters 1:05:36 I didn't get to see it.

Joe Rogan 1:05:37 Pshew. It was h- rough to watch. Um ...

Russell Peters 1:05:40 I'm assuming Alex won.

Joe Rogan 1:05:41 Yeah. He stopped him the first round. Alex is a bad motherfucker though. He's tough as shit.

Russell Peters 1:05:45 And, and, you know, Cerrone's a tough guy, but I think that, you know, he's had a lot of bad knockouts lately.

Joe Rogan 1:05:50 Mm-hmm.

Russell Peters 1:05:51 And, you know, I, I'm not gonna be the one to tell Donald Cerrone to not fucking fight anymore, but you know, as a fan, um ...

Joe Rogan 1:05:58 I wish fighting didn't hurt. (laughs)

Russell Peters 1:06:00 Well, I mean, I think that's a problem-

Joe Rogan 1:06:01 You know what I mean?

Russell Peters 1:06:01 You know.

Joe Rogan 1:06:01 You know what I mean?

Russell Peters 1:06:02 It's ki-

Joe Rogan 1:06:02 I wish it didn't hurt p-

Russell Peters 1:06:02 ... kind of the essence of it.

Joe Rogan 1:06:03 I know. I wish it didn't hurt people. I wish, uh, you got out of the, your career and you didn't have to deal with, um, brain damage and body damage. But that's also one of the reasons why it's so wild and exciting to watch, is you know there's severe consequences to their actions, you know?

Russell Peters 1:06:22 What about that fight that was supposed to happen with Anderson Silva and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr?

Joe Rogan 1:06:26 That's still happening.

Russell Peters 1:06:27 Is that happening?

Joe Rogan 1:06:28 I think it's happening in June. See if you can find out when that's happening. Yeah, they're ... He's taking a boxing match.

Russell Peters 1:06:34 Yeesh.

Joe Rogan 1:06:35 (laughs)

Russell Peters 1:06:35 I mean, at least he's taking it against a guy in the boxing world (laughs) who's not very well respected.

Joe Rogan 1:06:39 He might not be as respected as some, but Julio Cesar Chavez Junior is still a fucking beast. You cannot sleep on that guy. He is a dangerous man.

Russell Peters 1:06:49 He is.

Joe Rogan 1:06:49 He hits very hard.

Russell Peters 1:06:50 But, um, he doesn't have the work ethic that he needs.

Joe Rogan 1:06:54 Well-

Russell Peters 1:06:54 I think that's what his problem is.

Joe Rogan 1:06:55 You know when he fought Canelo?

Russell Peters 1:06:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:57 And he basically just went into a defensive shell-

Russell Peters 1:06:59 Yep.

Joe Rogan 1:06:59 ... and just survived? But he did survive. Billy Joe Saunders didn't survive. But you have to say, Canelo today is better than the Canelo of then. You see, what we're talking-

Russell Peters 1:07:09 Canelo te- of, of last weekend was, is better than Canelo of the, of the fight before.

Joe Rogan 1:07:13 100%, yeah.

Russell Peters 1:07:13 I mean, he's a continuously improving fighter.

Joe Rogan 1:07:16 He talks about that too. He, he talked about that in, uh, one of the interviews they were talking to him about pre-fight about k- maintaining his energy.

Russell Peters 1:07:24 Yep.

Joe Rogan 1:07:24 And he's like, "Just because I'm at the top doesn't mean I'm gonna slow down."

Russell Peters 1:07:27 Nope.

Joe Rogan 1:07:27 He goes, "No, no, no, I'm gonna keep going, keep going-"

Russell Peters 1:07:28 He understands it.

Joe Rogan 1:07:29 "... keep going, keep that same energy." Yeah.

Russell Peters 1:07:30 He understands it.

Joe Rogan 1:07:30 But he understands he's hit this rare air where he's the number one pound-for-pound fighter on earth and he's just so dominant, you know. He's so dominant. That fight with Billy Joe was so interesting.

Russell Peters 1:07:41 I was getting mad at people who were talking shit after this.

Joe Rogan 1:07:44 Here it is. June 19th-

Russell Peters 1:07:44 Wait, who's Chavez Senior fighting then?

Speaker 1:07:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:47 Oh, boy. Hector Camacho Junior.

Russell Peters 1:07:49 (laughs) Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:07:51 Wow.

Russell Peters 1:07:52 And Checo Chávez-

Joe Rogan 1:07:53 Julio Cesar Chávez Senior is fighting. That's kind of crazy.

Russell Peters 1:07:55 Yeah, Senior beat up, uh, Camacho, that's why, didn't he?

Joe Rogan 1:07:59 Wow. That's crazy.

Russell Peters 1:08:00 He, he beat up Junior's dad.

Joe Rogan 1:08:02 Did he?

Russell Peters 1:08:03 I think he did, like, in the '90s.

Joe Rogan 1:08:05 What?

Russell Peters 1:08:06 Did that not... Did he, did he fight him? I think he might... Check BoxRec. He may have.

Joe Rogan 1:08:10 I do not think that-

Russell Peters 1:08:12 I remember when Edwin-

Joe Rogan 1:08:12 ... Hector