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Russell returns to JRE: watch gift, friendship, and launching his own podcast
- NANarrator
(drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day.
- NANarrator
(instrumental music)
- JRJoe Rogan
Hello, Russell.
- RPRussell Peters
Hello, Joseph.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good to see you, my friend.
- RPRussell Peters
How are you, pally?
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm fucking great.
- RPRussell Peters
(clears throat) So-
- JRJoe Rogan
Better now that you're here.
- RPRussell Peters
I know. I, I called you and I said, "Joe, I really wanna do your podcast again." You said, "Sure."
- JRJoe Rogan
"Anytime, buddy."
- RPRussell Peters
I know. It was great. And I was, I was very happy (laughs) . I thought you were gonna be like, "Oh, man. You know, I got so many people I gotta-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Come on.
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Russell, you and I go back, my friend.
- RPRussell Peters
I know, it's true.
- JRJoe Rogan
And I tell everybody I wear the watch you gave me every special. And I have since 2014.
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
I didn't, I didn't know that detail. That's an-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep.
- RPRussell Peters
... interesting detail.
- JRJoe Rogan
You gave me a watch once. It was the s- the most ridiculously generous thing ever. I was looking at your watch and go, "That's a nice watch." You go, "You want it?"
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And you took it off and gave it to me. I'm like-
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... "Jesus Christ." So I've worn it every special I've ever done.
- RPRussell Peters
I've tried, I've tried that with you. I was like, "Joe, that's a really nice Porsche." "Yeah, it is."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 2:45 – 4:34
Comedians, themes vs free-form, and Ari Shaffir’s storytelling shows
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, uh, I don't know, though. The, the... Some, some people do... Like, Ari has a theme for most of his podcasts.
- RPRussell Peters
Ari's a very themed, thematic guy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
Even when he came up with the TV shows, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
He would always have a theme. And when he would have those shows at the store, "Okay, we're gonna do this night. Do you have a blah, blah, blah story for that?" And I'm like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
... you know, which is good. Uh, and, and, uh, it, you know, it, it challenges the guest a little bit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
Which is nice, but...
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's how he came up with his show. The, he came up with the idea for his show when he was, um, he was just trying to figure out ways to work on bits that are storytelling form. So he said, "You know what I'll do? I'll just do a whole storytelling show where you don't do your act, you just tell a story."
- RPRussell Peters
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then he set it up in the lab, the old lab before it became that weird lab in the Improv.
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, yeah, yeah. On Melrose there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. And then he started doing it there. And then, um, next thing you know, it was a fucking Comedy Central show.
- RPRussell Peters
I know. I did a couple-
- JRJoe Rogan
Damn.
- RPRussell Peters
... of those. The, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
This Is Not Happening.
- RPRussell Peters
I always... Um, I did This Is Not Happening, but then he had the other ones that he would do live before he was recording them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, what did he call those?
- RPRussell Peters
Um...
- JRJoe Rogan
Were those called This Is Not Happening as well?
- RPRussell Peters
No. One of, I think one variation of it was, but the earlier ones were some sort of, like, road stories or whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
I can't even remember why he stopped doing the show now.
- RPRussell Peters
I think it was because that, that little, uh, episode happened with, uh... When, uh... Who died?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, it was before that.
- RPRussell Peters
It was before that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
Somebody else died. I think it, they canceled him basically. And then they replaced him with somebody else.
- 4:34 – 6:13
Intent, social media minefields, and why comedy clips spark backlash
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a great guy. I love him. I love him to death. But he's a wild man. But that's why he's a great comic. He's wild, you know? Like, there's a lot of great comics that are wild. We just gotta be more forgiving with those people. They don't mean to be bad.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, you gotta understand-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RPRussell Peters
... people is what it is. You gotta under-
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh.
- RPRussell Peters
... like I always say, it's about the intent, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- RPRussell Peters
It's not, it's not what they're saying or what... Look at the intent. Look at... See if, see if there's something... I- if they're actually being diabolical or if they're just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Right.
- RPRussell Peters
... they're just not thinking.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. M- Well, just, like, a lot of impulsiveness involved in some folks in our business, you know? And sometimes they think, uh, it's a good idea and you wanna call them up y- you know, right before they do it and catch them. But usually, you don't.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It goes out and then you go, "Hey, no." (laughs)
- RPRussell Peters
It's like a social media post, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Yes.
- RPRussell Peters
In the moment, you're like, "This is what I'm fucking feeling and I'm gonna put this out there." And I've been guilty of it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
And I've, and I've stopped myself from it at too at the same time, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. There's a lot of, uh, comics that, like, social media is not a healthy thing for them.... it's, it's just too, uh, there's too, too much of a minefield, you know?
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's too fraught with peril.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah. And that's the thing, I'm always careful about what I'm posting. Like, I have, you know, I have this company that cuts my bits together for me and subtitles them. And then they'll send it to me. I won't... I don't know what they're going to send me, 'cause it's always like crowd work stuff that they're sending me, because I don't want to burn material.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- RPRussell Peters
And, uh, and I'm like, "Fuck, that's funny," but I know that this one line in there is gonna cause a fucking shit storm of people to be like, "What's wrong with you? You can't s-"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RPRussell Peters
And I'm like, "Uh, f- y- you're missing the fucking point, pal."
- 6:13 – 7:32
Why great comedies disappeared: Step Brothers, ‘woke’ constraints, and offense culture
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I watched Step Brothers the other day.
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You could not make that movie today. You could not make it-
- RPRussell Peters
You could make... Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and it was so good.
- RPRussell Peters
You can't make a lot of things that we made five years ago today. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You... Can you imagine if they tried to make Step Brothers today? But by the way, here's a question. When was the last time you saw a really good funny movie, like a recent funny movie?
- RPRussell Peters
We have not. We have not.
- JRJoe Rogan
They don't exist.
- RPRussell Peters
It's, it's hard, because they're trying to incorporate too much.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you're trying to be woke.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're trying to apply these rules that are created by these people that just want to kind of control peoples' ability to express themselves.
- RPRussell Peters
Well, they want you show this world that matches their imaginary world, and you're like, "But that's not my world."
- JRJoe Rogan
Not only that, it's like come on, man. You, you, do you really get offended when you watch Step Brothers?
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Does that offend you?
- RPRussell Peters
If you got offended by Step Brothers, you've got issues. That's why I feel like the people that are getting offended have their own things that they're dealing with-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
... and they just need somebody to blame.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they're just deciding what people can and can't say, and don't, you know... The, the, whatever they think is non-acceptable now in this new world of just calling out everybody for everything.
- RPRussell Peters
I think about my act when I started, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. (laughs)
- RPRussell Peters
... 32 years ago-
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus.
- RPRussell Peters
... and I'm like, "Holy shit."
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus.
- RPRussell Peters
What the fuck was wrong with me? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
So many problems.
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, my God.
- 7:32 – 11:07
Boxing breakdown: Canelo’s evolution, Wilder’s new look, and the power debate
- JRJoe Rogan
So problematic. Hey, uh, did you watch the Canelo fight this weekend?
- RPRussell Peters
I was working.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah. You didn't see it at all?
- RPRussell Peters
I wasn't... I wa- Mm-mm. I saw the highlights.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus Christ.
- RPRussell Peters
He broke his face.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, he hit so hard.
- RPRussell Peters
Broke that orbital bone.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's one of those guys that, like, you know, some guys just have power, right? But he works on it all the time.
- RPRussell Peters
That's what I say, he's the most im... Every fight, he's the most improved fighter. He always goes back-
- JRJoe Rogan
So good.
- RPRussell Peters
... and fixes anything he saw wrong.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep. Well, the-
- RPRussell Peters
He, every-
- JRJoe Rogan
... the Danny Jacobs fight? Remember his head movement?
- RPRussell Peters
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's, I mean...
- RPRussell Peters
It gave Danny problems.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) It would give anybody problems. But it was also like he was showing his head movement in that fight.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, 'cause they used to say he just walked right in-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
... and then he fixed it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God, did he fix it.
- RPRussell Peters
And there was a video of, uh ... There's a video of Deontay Wilder, uh, yesterday I saw it, and he's looking really good. Malik, Malik Scott King is training him now.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is he doing with him?
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, he looks like a completely different fighter. I think if you could find that, uh...
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, is he, like, using a lot of jabs? Is it that video?
- RPRussell Peters
Jabs and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
... he's planting his feet and he looks like a boxer now.
- 11:07 – 16:34
Language quirks, jiu-jitsu culture, and Renzo Gracie stories
- RPRussell Peters
My dad used to use that as a derogatory term to me. I'd wear, like...
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
... I'd wear, came in on a pink shirt, "My God, have you become queer?" And I'm like, "What?" (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Your father's accent's amazing.
- RPRussell Peters
He would... (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Does he really talk like this?
- RPRussell Peters
He used to talk like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RPRussell Peters
"Have you become queer?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RPRussell Peters
And I'm like, "What?" My dad used the, my dad would use the w- like... He was a, he was an English major, so he would always pick these words that would make you go, "What the fuck?" (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RPRussell Peters
My, like, my brother would, like... (laughs) My, my, we all lived in the same house, obviously, growing up, and my brother was a bigger guy. And then my dad would be in... We'd have, we had breakfast in the, next morning, and my dad would be like, "Clayton-... what time did you come in last night? And my brother's like, "You know, 2:30." And he's like, "I know. I heard you lumbering around like a bloody elephant upstairs." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Bloody.
- RPRussell Peters
Lumbering.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RPRussell Peters
Lumbering around like a bloody elephant.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the thing about Canadians. You've, you've adopted ... Canadians have adopted some of the vernacular of the Englishmen.
- RPRussell Peters
Well, my dad grew up in India under British rule, so ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm. But people-
- RPRussell Peters
And we're mixed, so.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I knew a girl from Canada, and she used to say she was going to the loo.
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, she was just trying to be special.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, you think so?
- RPRussell Peters
I don't like when people say cheers either. All right, cheers, pal.
- JRJoe Rogan
What, you don't like cheers?
- RPRussell Peters
No, when ch- when they're saying thank you, you know? Oh, cheers, man. Thanks.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- RPRussell Peters
You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, right. Not like cheers with a glass.
- 16:34 – 18:55
Training struggles, fatherhood and court battles, and climbing out of a dark year
- JRJoe Rogan
How, how often are you training these days?
- RPRussell Peters
Not as much as I want to.
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you want to? How many days a week?
- RPRussell Peters
I wanna train three times a week, four times a week.
- JRJoe Rogan
What have you been doing? Like, one or two?
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, one- once ... L- uh, lately it's been, like, once a month.
- JRJoe Rogan
Are you doing other stuff? Do you, do you have, like, a personal trainer or anything like that?
- RPRussell Peters
Nah, I just got my, uh, yoga ball and some dumbbells.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, get a personal trainer. Get someone who you're accountable to so you have to show up, you know.
- RPRussell Peters
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, they show up at your house. Like, if y- ... All you need is a yoga ball and some dumbbells. I mean, you get a good trainer, that's ... You don't need a lot of equipment.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Get someone who, like, makes you do stuff.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, I just want to jitz. I, I, like la- ... Otherwise, I have no time right now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- RPRussell Peters
It's like I get my kid ... I finally got my kid back, so-
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a lot of people that are rewinding this, going, "Did he say he wants to jizz?"
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"What'd he say?"
- RPRussell Peters
I wanna pouha all over the place.
- JRJoe Rogan
I just wanna jizz.
- RPRussell Peters
I just wanna jizz. That's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Just wanna jitz. You just like doing jujitsu.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, you got your kid back?
- RPRussell Peters
I got my kid back, yeah, finally.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- RPRussell Peters
Well, I get him ... You know, I get him, you know, eight hours a day.
- JRJoe Rogan
Every day?
- RPRussell Peters
Not every day.
- 18:55 – 19:53
Pandemic finances and discipline: why comedians needed a platform
- RPRussell Peters
You know. That pandemic kicked my ass. I gotta be honest. (laughs) That shit kicked my ass.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I mean, outta nowhere all of a sudden you don't make any money.
- RPRussell Peters
(clears throat) Yeah, and then you realize how much you were spending.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- RPRussell Peters
And then your accountant goes, "Hey, fuckhead."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
"You can't live like that." I go, "Oh, I mean, I knew I couldn't live like that then, but now I really can't live like that."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, lucky for you, you had property, you sold some property.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Get your head above water. But it would-
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs) Just, just tread.
- JRJoe Rogan
... have been nice-
- RPRussell Peters
Just tread, buddy. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It woulda been nice if you had that podcast already going, right?
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
See, that's what I've been trying to tell all these comics, like, "Listen, I know ..." Like, comics don't like to work. They like to fuck off. But-
- RPRussell Peters
We're lazy, that's why we do what we do.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. We're lazy, we're impulsive, you know. And people w- Whenever people try to say that I'm disciplined, I always go, "Listen, I'm the fucking laziest, disciplined person you'll ever meet in your life." I get things done, but I don't want to. I mean, I, I'm ... It's not like I get up every day and I'm like, "Yes, here we go."
- RPRussell Peters
What time do you wake up?
- JRJoe Rogan
Early. I-
- RPRussell Peters
And you go to bed late.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. But I-
- 19:53 – 26:33
Biohacking corner: hyperbaric oxygen, telomeres, float tanks, and sauna routines
- RPRussell Peters
So wait-
- JRJoe Rogan
... get up, I always say goodbye to my kids in the morning. And, um, lately I've been doing hyperbaric chamber sessions.
- RPRussell Peters
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I didn't wanna talk about it until I know whether or not this is legit.
- RPRussell Peters
And?
- JRJoe Rogan
And I don't know. I don't know whe- whether or not it's legit.
- RPRussell Peters
Wasn't Michael Jackson doing that at one point?
- JRJoe Rogan
No. He ... Maybe.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, before he was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Actually, yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
... doing the protocol, he was doing hyperbaric chambers.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's right. That's right. Yeah, you're right. You're right. He was. It's, uh, supposed to, uh, lengthen your telomeres. There's a study out of Israel where they, they did 60 sessions over 90 days. And one measure of biological health and age is the length of your telomeres.
- RPRussell Peters
What are your telomeres?
- JRJoe Rogan
Your telomeres, it's ... I'm ... I'll bu- I'll butcher it, so there it is.
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, there it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's Michael Jackson.
- RPRussell Peters
That's the old-school one with the walkie-talkie on it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's a weird one, right?
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause it's all glass. The one on-
- RPRussell Peters
That's just ... What is it, just high oxygen?
- JRJoe Rogan
It is, uh, yes. Here. W- Well, let's go to telomeres first. Google, google the, the term telomeres 'cause I don't wanna fuck it up. But it's ... It, it's ... It has something to do, I believe, with your mitochondria, and it ... The length of your telomeres indicates ... It's ... You're ... It, it's an indication of health and of biological age. Although the biological age aspect of it is disputed, but people like David Sinclair think it's a good indication of your biological age. He's, uh ... He's been on the podcast a couple times before. He's a professor at Harvard, and he studies ... And most of his study is in anti-aging.
- RPRussell Peters
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but go to telomeres, pl- please, just so-
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, that's how you spell telomeres. Nice.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but I mean, I wanted to know the, the, uh, definition-
- RPRussell Peters
(clears throat) I had it all wrong in my head.
- JRJoe Rogan
(clears throat) Just, just telomeres, just so I can figure out how to say it. Okay. It's the end of a chromosome, right?
- RPRussell Peters
Ah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Telomeres are made of repetitive sequences of noncoding DNA that protect the chromosomes from damage. Each time a cell divides, the telomere becomes shorter. Eventually, the telomeres become so short, the cell can no longer divide. So this is as you get older, your telomeres become shorter. And now google telomeres hyperbaric, the thing that you had already. And what this is, for the first time, hyperbaric oxygen therapy proven to reverse biological aging in humans.
- 26:33 – 38:16
Extreme survival history: Cabeza de Vaca and why ‘safety’ enables innovation
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I only hav- I have a, one pair that I wear just when I'm inside the sauna. And they don't burn up. So you can listen to books. So I'm listening to this book on, uh, Cabeza de Vaca, who's a, uh, Spanish-
- RPRussell Peters
Cow Head?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a Spanish, uh, sh-, uh, explorer that landed in North America in the 1500s and walked across the country. It's a crazy... You ever wanna complain about the weather?
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You ever wanna complain about your life?
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
"Oh, fucking COVID kicked my ass." Listen to me. Read this fucking book. It's called A Land So Strange. It's amazing. My friend Hank, uh, told me about it. He's, uh, the security guy at, um, Kill Tony.
- RPRussell Peters
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Big giant Native American cat.
- RPRussell Peters
Oh, that got the hat on?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that dude.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, I met him last night.
- JRJoe Rogan
Great guy. Uh, Hank told me about, uh, this book, and he was raving about it. And boy was he right. It's amazing.
- RPRussell Peters
So are these, um, uh, uh, the stories told from-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- RPRussell Peters
... notes he left?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, notes he left, and then, uh, you know, him telling a story back home when he got, when he eventually, uh, got rescued. Or made it back to Spain, which I believe happened. I don't know, 'cause I'm always-
- RPRussell Peters
Wait, where did he s-
- JRJoe Rogan
... They landed s-
- RPRussell Peters
In modern day...
- JRJoe Rogan
They landed in Florida.
- RPRussell Peters
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they made their way across Florida, and then they w- got to the Gulf of Mexico. They did all this with rafts. They, they sailed, like, I don't know how many fucking miles in rafts. And then they got attacked multiple times by Indians when they would get to shore. And some Indians took care of them, and some Indians attacked them and killed them. And, oh, what a fucking harrowing journey, man. I mean, I'm on chapter, I think I'm on chapter eight now. And so far, they've been at it for 10... I think he's been in America for 10 years at this point.
- RPRussell Peters
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or close to it.
- RPRussell Peters
How many people are with him?
- JRJoe Rogan
Six years? Seven years? Well, they got down to four. 'Cause it-
- RPRussell Peters
Started with-
- 38:16 – 52:20
Human origins, uncontacted tribes, and Amazon ‘lost cities’ revealed by LiDAR
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's w- well, first of all, it's dumb because all of us came out of one place. They- they think now-
- RPRussell Peters
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
... this is what they think about human beings, that ... This is a weird theory too. They're trying to ... I'll send you this, Jamie, 'cause it's really strange. They're not even sure if this is r- th- this is, like, a theory that they're working on now. Um, they- they think that it's possible that ... First of all, they think that, um, monkeys and primates came originally from Asia. Here, I'm sending this to you right now, Jamie. And, uh, then we evolved and became humans in Africa. The thing is, they don't know-
- RPRussell Peters
How the monkey got to Africa.
- JRJoe Rogan
... how primates got from Asia to Africa. I just sent it to you. Um, it's-
- RPRussell Peters
It's a long journey.
- JRJoe Rogan
But they think they might've fucking floated over. It's r- it's a really interesting thing. But my point is, all of us are African. Everyone is African.
- RPRussell Peters
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
If you go back to the origins of human beings, everyone is African.
- RPRussell Peters
That's where we started walking.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's everybody.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then humans branched out. So, even the idea of race itself is kinda preposterous. We vary because our ancestors developed in different climates.
- RPRussell Peters
Well, one of the, uh, the, um, arguments from the- the- the racist side is that their theory is that white people are more evolved, hence why they look least like monkeys. And I'm like-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so dumb.
- RPRussell Peters
... and I'm like, "I don't understand this fucking theory." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's a dumb theory because it doesn't understand why people became white in the first place is 'cause we moved to a shitty climate-
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... where there's no fucking sunlight.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And so, the human skin, when not exposed to sunlight, gets paler and paler in a desperate attempt to soak up vitamin D.
- RPRussell Peters
Right, but then you have the Native Americans who were a little swarthy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Swarthy? What do you mean?
- RPRussell Peters
Swarthy. A little- a little darker, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they came from Siberia.
- RPRussell Peters
All of them?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. That's, uh ... Pretty much. They think that. They think it's this-
- RPRussell Peters
Uh, there was a very, uh, common look between the two.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. Well, they think-
- RPRussell Peters
And I-
- 52:20 – 58:40
Emoji language, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and ‘is anything real online?’ science talk
- RPRussell Peters
It's almost like they were talking emojis.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fucking Jaime had this idea, uh, a while ago.
- RPRussell Peters
I don't think you're Jaime, but a lot of your ideas...
- JRJoe Rogan
Jaime was saying... Like, we were talking about, like, sending emojis to go. He goes, h- he goes, "Do you think that, like, maybe eventually that will be our language?" That, like, if emojis would be... And we were, we were both... I think we were pretty high at the time.
- SPSpeaker
Eas- easily. Easy, could happen.
- JRJoe Rogan
Possibly.
- SPSpeaker
I mean.
- RPRussell Peters
I c- I can't see you being high, Joe. That's weird.
- JRJoe Rogan
And we were saying, um, that could eventually evolve to be the next language, 'cause how many times do your friends-
- RPRussell Peters
Is it an evolution or is it a devolution? Are we going back to that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it depends on how well it communicates, right? If it communicates really well, like right now, like if someone sends you, like, eggplant and then water and then the crying tear face, like...
- RPRussell Peters
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's probably like...
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just funny, you know?
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, I love doing that to people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's fun.
- RPRussell Peters
It's my favorite, you know.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's fun.
- RPRussell Peters
I try to have whole emoji conversations with people sometimes.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RPRussell Peters
Just to, just to fuck with them, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
You're, you're kind of getting something across, but what if, eventually, emojis became like a universal language, right? Like...
- RPRussell Peters
It kind of has been, because you can communicate with people through emoji.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure. And people that don't even speak English.
- RPRussell Peters
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
You communicate with them with a lot of emojis.
- RPRussell Peters
Because they're all common denominators for everybody.
- 58:40 – 1:06:22
Food, health, reflux, fasting, and fighter wear-and-tear
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you- do you enjoy Indian food? Are you an Indian food guy?
- RPRussell Peters
I do. I love Indian food.
- JRJoe Rogan
I fucking love Indian food.
- RPRussell Peters
But I have acid reflux, so I gotta be careful. I gotta plan it when I'm gonna eat Indian food.
- JRJoe Rogan
What causes that?
- RPRussell Peters
I don't know. I've had it my whole life.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- RPRussell Peters
I've literally had it my whole life. And then I went f- uh, a couple weeks ago, I went and got, uh... I had the old spit roast done to me, you know, the, uh...
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, did they?
- RPRussell Peters
The colon endo job.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hey.
- RPRussell Peters
And- and right before I went under, I told the doctor, I said, "Put an apple in my mouth," and then I passed out.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RPRussell Peters
(laughs) And then, uh, I woke up, and he goes, "How was it?" I go, "It was fine, except for both your hands were on my shoulders."
- JRJoe Rogan
Wah, wah, wah.
- RPRussell Peters
Wah, wah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Now, um, what do they do for you when you got the aci- acid reflux? Do they prescribe a medication?
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, you're on... I'm on a medication. You can also... I mean, it's also very... It's not fixable, but it's- it's manageable by what you eat as well, you know. For me, it's mostly about, uh, for sleep. If I don't get enough sleep and I decide I want to eat something-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- RPRussell Peters
... that I know could trigger me, it'll really trigger me if I haven't slept enough. But if-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, so like you're tired, if you're worn out.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah, yeah. But if I've slept enough, I could eat whatever the fuck I want and do whatever I want.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the same thing with getting sick, you know. It's amazing how much your immune system sort of regulates everything, and when you're tired, your immune system is weakened. And I know a lot of people that have gotten like really sick where they probably wouldn't have gotten sick because they're run- they're run down, like fighters. They're- they're training for big fights. Like a lot of people think, "Oh, fighters are in great shape. They must be really healthy."
- RPRussell Peters
No, especially when they're trying to make weight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh.
- RPRussell Peters
They dehydrate their entire body.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God.
- RPRussell Peters
That's insane.
- JRJoe Rogan
So ba- that... But even just the training itself, when they're breaking themselves down, a lot of times fighters get sick. A lot of fighters have gotten COVID, um, pretty bad because they were in the middle of fight camp, and they didn't stop training.
- RPRussell Peters
Mm-hmm.
- 1:06:22 – 1:21:52
Fight nerd deep dive: boxing judging, legends, and wild ‘comeback’ matchmaking
- RPRussell Peters
What about that fight that was supposed to happen with Anderson Silva and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's still happening.
- RPRussell Peters
Is that happening?
- JRJoe Rogan
I think it's happening in June. See if you can find out when that's happening. Yeah, they're ... He's taking a boxing match.
- RPRussell Peters
Yeesh.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RPRussell Peters
I mean, at least he's taking it against a guy in the boxing world (laughs) who's not very well respected.
- JRJoe Rogan
He might not be as respected as some, but Julio Cesar Chavez Junior is still a fucking beast. You cannot sleep on that guy. He is a dangerous man.
- RPRussell Peters
He is.
- JRJoe Rogan
He hits very hard.
- RPRussell Peters
But, um, he doesn't have the work ethic that he needs.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well-
- RPRussell Peters
I think that's what his problem is.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know when he fought Canelo?
- RPRussell Peters
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he basically just went into a defensive shell-
- RPRussell Peters
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and just survived? But he did survive. Billy Joe Saunders didn't survive. But you have to say, Canelo today is better than the Canelo of then. You see, what we're talking-
- RPRussell Peters
Canelo te- of, of last weekend was, is better than Canelo of the, of the fight before.
- JRJoe Rogan
100%, yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
I mean, he's a continuously improving fighter.
- JRJoe Rogan
He talks about that too. He, he talked about that in, uh, one of the interviews they were talking to him about pre-fight about k- maintaining his energy.
- RPRussell Peters
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he's like, "Just because I'm at the top doesn't mean I'm gonna slow down."
- RPRussell Peters
Nope.
- JRJoe Rogan
He goes, "No, no, no, I'm gonna keep going, keep going-"
- RPRussell Peters
He understands it.
- JRJoe Rogan
"... keep going, keep that same energy." Yeah.
- RPRussell Peters
He understands it.
- JRJoe Rogan
But he understands he's hit this rare air where he's the number one pound-for-pound fighter on earth and he's just so dominant, you know. He's so dominant. That fight with Billy Joe was so interesting.
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