Joe Rogan Experience #1659 - Scott Eastwood

1. 0:00 – 3:37

   Made Here: American-made beer, socks, and the Uncle Sam branding debate

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. SEScott Eastwood0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Cheers, sir.

   5. SEScott Eastwood0:15

      Hey.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Crack one of these open.

   7. SEScott Eastwood0:16

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      So, are these your beers? You make your own beer?

   9. SEScott Eastwood0:19

      We, we make our own beer. I don't actually make it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Do...

   11. SEScott Eastwood0:22

       But-

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       But someone-

   13. SEScott Eastwood0:23

       Someone makes it.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       ... connected to you and your company makes it.

   15. SEScott Eastwood0:25

       E- exactly. It's called Made Here, and every part about the process is made in America.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       I have your socks.

   17. SEScott Eastwood0:31

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       I have your underwear too, right?

   19. SEScott Eastwood0:32

       Yeah, yeah, I left you some stuff.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       So what else do you make?

   21. SEScott Eastwood0:35

       Well, we started with, uh, socks and boxers.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Cheers, sir.

   23. SEScott Eastwood0:40

       Cheers. Um, and then we decided we wanted to do consumables.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Wow, that's good beer.

   25. SEScott Eastwood0:46

       That's an IPA.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Yeah.

   27. SEScott Eastwood0:48

       We have three different kinds.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       That's very good.

   29. SEScott Eastwood0:50

       Yeah. I don't know if you're an IPA guy, but-

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       I love IPA.
2. 3:37 – 5:34

   Diet, training setbacks, and the realities of “eat whatever” habits

   1. SEScott Eastwood3:37

      Are you doing-

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:37

      Oh, that's what it is. It's like glu- gluten-free. No, I'm not kee- not keto.

   3. SEScott Eastwood3:40

      You've... I heard you talk about it before.

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:42

      Yeah. I mostly eat meat.

   5. SEScott Eastwood3:45

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:46

      Yeah, but, uh, um, uh, latley I've been trying to cut... I, I weighed 208 the other day. It's the fattest I've ever been in my life.

   7. SEScott Eastwood3:53

      Oh, wow.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:54

      I was like, "Jesus Christ," because I've been dealing with this back thing that you saw, that I hurt myself, uh, doing jujitsu this morning.

   9. SEScott Eastwood3:59

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan4:00

       Um, I've been dealing with this to the point where I've been doing a lot of physical therapy, and, uh, over the last few weeks, I've been training pretty hard again because the back's been feeling good until this morning. But, uh, I got out of a really... Because it was just trying to let everything relax, but I did not get out of a food rhythm.

   11. SEScott Eastwood4:18

       Hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:19

       My food rhythm went... I just... I, when I ch- work out hard, I eat whatever the fuck I want, but when I'm not working out hard and I eat whatever the fuck I want, I just start getting fat face. I start, I start chipmunking up.

   13. SEScott Eastwood4:31

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan4:32

       I see this, this starts getting fat, and then I start getting the, uh, above the dick fat. You know what I mean?

   15. SEScott Eastwood4:38

       Ooh.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:38

       You know that?

   17. SEScott Eastwood4:38

       Yeah, no one likes that.

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:39

       Yeah, where I could like... and I always get this fat here.

   19. SEScott Eastwood4:43

       Yeah. But you know what the other side of that is? Sometimes if you get too skinny, then you're like a little gaunt.

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:49

       Hmm, right.

   21. SEScott Eastwood4:50

       And that doesn't look good either.

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:53

       Yeah. Um, it's probably better for you though.

   23. SEScott Eastwood4:55

       Probably.

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:56

       Yeah.

   25. SEScott Eastwood4:56

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:57

       I don't want to get too skinny, but I like being lean. I like being healthy. I'm, I'm really at my best when I'm like 195. When I'm 195 to 200, I'm okay, but when I get 205 to 208 and-

   27. SEScott Eastwood5:08

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan5:09

       ... I'm just... Dude, I'm a glutton. I got a real problem.

   29. SEScott Eastwood5:11

       Just like the stuff, the things.

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:12

       I fucking eat, dude. I eat way too much. I have a real problem.
3. 5:34 – 7:37

   Fast food wars and Austin culture talk: In-N-Out, Whataburger, Five Guys, and P. Terry’s

   1. SEScott Eastwood5:34

      But if you go to like In-N-Out, then you get like two and you don't feel bad. You get them protein style.

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:39

      Yes.

   3. SEScott Eastwood5:40

      That's not bad.

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:40

      That's a good move.

   5. SEScott Eastwood5:41

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:41

      I heard In-N-Out out here is not as good.

   7. SEScott Eastwood5:44

      I don't know.

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:45

      Somebody told me it's not as good.

   9. SEScott Eastwood5:46

      I feel like it's as good.

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:47

       But that's a thing they say, like people... (laughs)

   11. SEScott Eastwood5:50

       That's a Cali- That's a California thing to say.

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:51

       It's one of those Whataburger enthusiasts, they'll tell you.

   13. SEScott Eastwood5:54

       Ah, of course.

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:55

       You know those people? Those Whataburger people are weird. It's like they're seeing life through a lens, like, "Let me wear your glasses." Like, "What do you see? What does the world look like to you? What color is the sky?"

   15. SEScott Eastwood6:05

       Well-

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:06

       (laughs)

   17. SEScott Eastwood6:06

       ... I feel like, (laughs) I feel like those people, and I don't know them exactly, but ... Or maybe I'm not, they're just not aware I'm friends with them, they'd be the same people who, who, like, resist change.

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:16

       Right. Right.

   19. SEScott Eastwood6:17

       You know? They'll be like, "We can't have in or out here."

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:19

       Bro, I grew up on Whataburger. Yeah.

   21. SEScott Eastwood6:21

       Yeah. And you're like, for Austin, you know, that's a thing right now. It's like, everyone's like, "Oh, can you believe, can you believe what Joe Rogan's doing to Austin?"

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:28

       Oh, that's so silly.

   23. SEScott Eastwood6:29

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan6:29

       I haven't done anything. I brought in a bunch of funny comedians and Elon Musk. You're welcome.

   25. SEScott Eastwood6:33

       You're welcome.

   26. JRJoe Rogan6:34

       He was coming ... Elon was coming anyway. I didn't bring him.

   27. SEScott Eastwood6:37

       No.

   28. JRJoe Rogan6:37

       But, uh-

   29. SEScott Eastwood6:37

       But even he can't afford to live here now.

   30. JRJoe Rogan6:39

       Pfft. (laughs)
4. 7:37 – 9:41

   New studio reveal and dealing with sudden mass attention

   1. SEScott Eastwood7:37

      Uh, the studio and this whole new thing, like, is, is really cool. I like it.

   2. JRJoe Rogan7:41

      Thank you. Thank you very much, man.

   3. SEScott Eastwood7:42

      It's like a spaceship.

   4. JRJoe Rogan7:42

      Thank you.

   5. SEScott Eastwood7:43

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan7:43

      Yeah. We, uh, shout out to my boy Matt Alvarez who's out in the hallway. You met Matt, who I was making fun of his man bun.

   7. SEScott Eastwood7:49

      Oh, that was the guy who did all this?

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:50

      He built this. Yeah, he's awesome.

   9. SEScott Eastwood7:51

      Oh, wow.

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:51

       He's great guy. And he built the ... And there's a shooting star that goes across the sky.

   11. SEScott Eastwood7:55

       No.

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:56

       Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll go flying across like every 40 seconds or so. And then Ways2Well, uh, hired, um, these Roadside Relics fellas. Uh, my friend Todd built this for me. Look at that. Isn't that dope?

   13. SEScott Eastwood8:09

       That's pretty cool.

   14. JRJoe Rogan8:10

       I can't turn my back very good.

   15. SEScott Eastwood8:13

       Dude, I feel like, I feel like ... I gotta, I just gotta point this out because I feel like since the last time we spoke-

   16. JRJoe Rogan8:18

       Yeah.

   17. SEScott Eastwood8:19

       ... you have gone to the stratosphere of, like ... Po- call it whatever, podcasting, radio, being a entertaining host, and now all eyes are on what Joe Rogan says.

   18. JRJoe Rogan8:33

       Yeah, it's not good. (laughs)

   19. SEScott Eastwood8:35

       It's wild.

   20. JRJoe Rogan8:35

       You guys should be paying attention to other things. Um-

   21. SEScott Eastwood8:37

       I know.

   22. JRJoe Rogan8:38

       ... I'm the same person.

   23. SEScott Eastwood8:39

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan8:39

       You know? Well, you know what it is? It's like, what's, what's odd, I think, for them, is that an independent person, like, liter- lit- legitimately independent, who has a skeleton crew ... I mean, my crew is, um, I have a video guy, I have a booking guy, I have powerful Jamie, and, and that's it. That's the whole crew.

   25. SEScott Eastwood9:02

       Yep.

   26. JRJoe Rogan9:02

       I mean, and then it, it reaches some preposterous number of human beings.

   27. SEScott Eastwood9:07

       What does that, what does that feel like when they just use you as, like, clickbait?

   28. JRJoe Rogan9:12

       Uh ... It's not good. It doesn't feel good if I pay attention to it, but I don't pay attention to it.

   29. SEScott Eastwood9:18

       Smart.

   30. JRJoe Rogan9:19

       Yeah. I go, "Pfft, so what are you saying? Fauci's commenting on me? Why is he talking about me? What are you doing?"
5. 9:41 – 16:20

   Celebrity, royalty, and why fame distorts whose opinions matter

   1. SEScott Eastwood9:41

      Sure. I even saw, like, the other day ... I mean, you know, I was thinking about coming on your show, and I was like, "Oh, wow, this is, like, crazy 'cause he's, he's the, the center of the stratosphere, it seems like, what people are talking about." And I was like, I, I saw something about Prince Harry contenting on you.

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:57

      "Prince Harry went over me!" I was like, "Prince Harry, guess what? You're in my act now. Whoops." (laughs)

   3. SEScott Eastwood10:01

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan10:01

      I was like-

   5. SEScott Eastwood10:02

      That's a, kind of a dumb move for him to say anything. I was like, "Yeah."

   6. JRJoe Rogan10:04

      Well, Prince Harry's a silly fella. I'm sure he's a nice guy. I'm sure he's a nice guy.

   7. SEScott Eastwood10:08

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan10:08

      I wouldn't wanna be Prince Harry. I wouldn't b- wouldn't wanna be someone who is famous for being a part of a royal family. So you're literally famous for no reason. You're famous f- through ... It's not you're famous from, for your perspective or your, your, your work or some- something you've created.

   9. SEScott Eastwood10:23

      Mm-hmm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan10:24

       You're, you're just literally famous because you're attached to a monarchy. And you're atta- you're literally attached to one of the strangest situations, where people are worshiping the ancestors of people who suppressed their ancestors.

   11. SEScott Eastwood10:38

       Sure.

   12. JRJoe Rogan10:38

       I mean, that's what it is. I mean, I'm not saying that they're bad people, the royal family in England. I'm not saying they're bad people, but-

   13. SEScott Eastwood10:43

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan10:44

       ... if you go back in time, you'll find some bad people who did some horrible shit. I mean, that's what Robin Hood's all about, right?

   15. SEScott Eastwood10:49

       And that's why we got out, right?

   16. JRJoe Rogan10:50

       Yeah.

   17. SEScott Eastwood10:50

       I mean, that's why America is America.

   18. JRJoe Rogan10:52

       Yeah. Well, I, my family came from Italy and Ireland. But yeah.

   19. SEScott Eastwood10:55

       But-

   20. JRJoe Rogan10:56

       Yeah.

   21. SEScott Eastwood10:56

       ... they got out.

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:56

       Yeah.

   23. SEScott Eastwood10:56

       But I'm just saying that's why this country ... We broke away from them.

   24. JRJoe Rogan11:01

       Yeah.

   25. SEScott Eastwood11:01

       We're like, "Screw you guys. We're not listening to some people over here telling us what to do."

   26. JRJoe Rogan11:05

       Exactly. Well, even over there, they gave up on them. They're just, they're just sort of a figurehead.

   27. SEScott Eastwood11:09

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:10

       Right?

   29. SEScott Eastwood11:10

       I mean, it's weird, the, like, thinking ... The whole royal thing is a weird thing. Like, any elitist thing is a weird ...

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:17

       Yeah.
6. 16:20 – 19:41

   Modern comfort vs pioneer hardship—and the acceleration of tech and travel

   1. JRJoe Rogan16:20

      Depending on the character of the human that he gets involved with. I think he'd, he'd have to get involved with someone who understands how to work hard and struggle. Like someone who unders- ... who, uh, uh, like a strong character-

   2. SEScott Eastwood16:33

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan16:33

      ... someone who has like a strong will, like someone who, um, who knows how to do things, get things done, 'cause some people are overwhelmed by anything difficult, you know, bec- ... And I think that's the way society has sort of set us up because if you look at, like, modern society, it's really easy to get food, it's really easy to get some kind of employment for most people. It's really easy to survive. Medicine is readily available if you, I mean-

   4. SEScott Eastwood17:05

      In America.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:05

      Yeah. In America.

   6. SEScott Eastwood17:06

      In America.

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:07

      Yeah. Or, uh, good point. Our society right here-

   8. SEScott Eastwood17:09

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:09

      ... in America. And this is just relatively speaking. Of course people can get very ill. Of course people can die. Of course people can be in poverty. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is comparatively, when you look at the rest of human history, it's really easy to survive today. So human beings are not as, not as comfortable or not as accustomed to like severe adversity as we have been throughout all of human history.

   10. SEScott Eastwood17:38

       Sure. Like running from a lion.

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:39

       Yeah. Or even-

   12. SEScott Eastwood17:40

       Like getting up in the morning and-

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:41

       Dude, I was looking at some pictures of pioneers the other day. There were some old black and white, like where the people had to stand still and they're ka-toosh-

   14. SEScott Eastwood17:47

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:47

       ... and they did that thing. And the looks in these people's faces-

   16. SEScott Eastwood17:50

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:50

       ... the hardships that they must have faced and-

   18. SEScott Eastwood17:53

       Sure.

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:54

       ... this, this house they built out of trees behind them and then this, the ... You want to talk about gaunt?

   20. SEScott Eastwood18:00

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:00

       It's like, bro, these people barely had enough food to keep the heart ticking.

   22. SEScott Eastwood18:03

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:03

       You know? They were all like real skinny or real (grumbles) you know, like just-

   24. SEScott Eastwood18:07

       No, I think about that a lot. I think about how we're so lucky right now in this point in history.

   25. JVJamie Vernon18:14

       And, and not that they weren't lucky and, and probably they didn't know any better and they were like, "This is great. My life's happy if, you know, if I was able to get shelter and food." But we can get on a plane and go anywhere in the world in twen- less than 24 hours. That's insane.

   26. JRJoe Rogan18:29

       Insane.

   27. JVJamie Vernon18:30

       And that happened over the course of 50 years, we mastered flying, which is-

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:36

       Nuts.

   29. JVJamie Vernon18:36

       ... nuts. I mean, we can go anywhere.

   30. JRJoe Rogan18:40

       Well, not only that, it's gonna get even crazier because they're, they're developing supersonic planes.
7. 19:41 – 28:33

   UAPs/UFOs: Nimitz encounters, propulsion mysteries, and government disclosure

   1. JVJamie Vernon19:41

      Do you think that that has anything to do with ... 'Cause I just watched this 60 Minutes last night about the, the uo- UAPs or u-identified-

   2. JRJoe Rogan19:50

      UFOs.

   3. JVJamie Vernon19:50

      ... you know, UFOs, but they call 'em uO- UAPs.

   4. JRJoe Rogan19:53

      Yeah.

   5. JVJamie Vernon19:53

      Did you see that? Uh-

   6. JRJoe Rogan19:54

      Yeah, unidentified aerial phenomena.

   7. JVJamie Vernon19:56

      Yeah. And do you think that has anything to do with it? Because ...

   8. JRJoe Rogan19:59

      It could. I don't ... I mean, who knows? Um, Jeremy Corbell is a good friend of mine and he's the guy who's been releasing them along with George Knapp, who's the journalist out of Las Vegas-

   9. JVJamie Vernon20:08

      Hm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan20:08

       ... who was the guy who originally broke the Bob Lazar story in the late '80s. And there have been, uh ... It's, it's interesting because they're basically a go-between. It's they're getting direct correspondence from people on the inside.

   11. JVJamie Vernon20:24

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:24

       Um, sailors, uh, com- ... Uh, like guys like Commander D- David Fravor who, who saw that Tic Tac, um, shaped, uh, object off the coast-

   13. JVJamie Vernon20:34

       Flying across the sky, yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan20:35

       Off the Nimitz that went from 80,000 feet above sea level to 50 in less than a second. And-

   15. JVJamie Vernon20:40

       Crazy.

   16. JRJoe Rogan20:41

       It's crazy. They-

   17. JVJamie Vernon20:42

       I went on the Nimitz, by the way.

   18. JRJoe Rogan20:43

       Did you?

   19. JVJamie Vernon20:44

       I got to go on the Nimitz for 24 hours.

   20. JRJoe Rogan20:47

       Wow.

   21. JVJamie Vernon20:47

       Fly in, land on the thing.

   22. JRJoe Rogan20:49

       Oh, my God.

   23. JVJamie Vernon20:50

       It was crazy. Gotta go.

   24. JRJoe Rogan20:52

       Does it ... Th- So it c- Like, a wire catches the jet?

   25. JVJamie Vernon20:55

       Full wire catches the jet.

   26. JRJoe Rogan20:56

       Fuck.

   27. JVJamie Vernon20:57

       The whole thing. Land there, get off, go hang with all the crew. I mean, th- It's a full city. It is a floating city. They have a dentist office. They have an infirmary. They have an ER. They have ... You know, they can do anything. They have f- And it's fully nuclear-powered.

   28. JRJoe Rogan21:15

       (sighs)

   29. JVJamie Vernon21:15

       So the thing can last, like, 50 years or something without getting refueled.

   30. JRJoe Rogan21:20

       Whoa. That is crazy.
8. 28:33 – 38:10

   Sharks, drones, and ocean ethics: overfishing, whaling loopholes, and wildlife regulation

   1. JRJoe Rogan28:33

      Could be.

   2. SEScott Eastwood28:33

      ... it's kind of like I see all these shark videos, right?

   3. JRJoe Rogan28:36

      Did you see that recent one?

   4. SEScott Eastwood28:37

      No. What's the recent one?

   5. JRJoe Rogan28:38

      Oh my God. There's one off of Massachusetts where there's a bunch of tourists on a boat.

   6. SEScott Eastwood28:41

      Oh, wow.

   7. JRJoe Rogan28:42

      Oh my God. This thing is so big.

   8. SEScott Eastwood28:44

      So big.

   9. JRJoe Rogan28:44

      It's so big. It's like a 15-foot-long great white.

   10. SEScott Eastwood28:47

       Ugh.

   11. JRJoe Rogan28:47

       It's swimming through the water right next to them.

   12. SEScott Eastwood28:49

       They're so... And they're so wide too.

   13. JRJoe Rogan28:51

       Dude, this is... This is a wild one because the guy who's, uh, filming is like, "Holy shit." Like, you, you can see this thing swimming in the water while there's like, you know, 50 people in this boat watching it.

   14. SEScott Eastwood29:02

       You see, I think though... I think a lot of it-

   15. JRJoe Rogan29:04

       You got a-

   16. SEScott Eastwood29:04

       I think they've been there for a long time. I think they've been there for a long time, and we just have more cameras. I don't think there's any more sharks. I mean, maybe because we're not... we're not hunting them as much, but I... It feels like there's just more cameras.

   17. JRJoe Rogan29:21

       Well, that's the case for sharks for sure because of drone technology. Like, one of the things they've done off the coast of Malibu is there's a bunch of people surfing.

   18. SEScott Eastwood29:28

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan29:28

       And they're having a good time. "Yeah, man, taking in the waves."

   20. SEScott Eastwood29:31

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan29:31

       And then you look, like, 100 yards off and there's a great white swimming around. They have... They're completely oblivious.

   22. SEScott Eastwood29:36

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan29:36

       They have no idea.

   24. SEScott Eastwood29:36

       I'm a surfer, so I get that.

   25. JRJoe Rogan29:38

       Do you s- Where do you surf?

   26. SEScott Eastwood29:39

       Uh, well, I surf all over. I actually just got back from Mexico. I was down there just on a surf trip at the very bottom of Mexico on the border of Guatemala.

   27. JRJoe Rogan29:48

       Are there sharks out there?

   28. SEScott Eastwood29:50

       Oh, yeah. I mean, you don't see-

   29. JRJoe Rogan29:52

       You're cool-

   30. SEScott Eastwood29:52

       ... you don't see them.
9. 38:10 – 46:58

   Orcas up close, bear attacks, and the brutal logic of nature

   1. SEScott Eastwood38:10

      So, I s- I ... It's actually on my Instagram, uh, from a while ago, Jimmy. But, uh, I paddled out in near-southern Baja and ... On a paddleboard with my buddy because we saw some killer whales. And we're like, "Yeah, let's just go paddle out there and see." And my buddy starts making whale noises. And I'm, I'm sort of like (laughs) , "Okay, dude. Okay, ha ha." Like, "Ha, you're gonna get them. They're gonna come back." They make a U-turn. (gasps) A mom and a baby orca combed up to us. We're on an inflatable paddleboard.

   2. JRJoe Rogan38:45

      Is this you guys?

   3. SEScott Eastwood38:46

      Yep, this is it.

   4. JRJoe Rogan38:47

      Oh, my God.

   5. SEScott Eastwood38:48

      And they-

   6. JRJoe Rogan38:48

      Whoa, that's crazy.

   7. SEScott Eastwood38:51

      Uh-huh.

   8. JRJoe Rogan38:51

      Oh, my God (laughs) , they're under you.

   9. SEScott Eastwood38:53

      And so, and so at this point I, uh, uh, now, like, I'm like, "Oh my God, this is so cool."

   10. NANarrator38:58

       And then they sw-

   11. SEScott Eastwood38:58

       And then I freak out because then I'm like, "Hey bro-

   12. JRJoe Rogan39:00

       (laughs)

   13. SEScott Eastwood39:00

       ... stop. You can't ... Now we're the prey."

   14. JRJoe Rogan39:04

       You don't even have life vests on. (laughs)

   15. SEScott Eastwood39:05

       We're the prey. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan39:07

       That's incredible. I wanna hear these fucking news people talk about it. "Incredible."

   17. SEScott Eastwood39:12

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan39:12

       "Scott Eastwood off the coast of Mexico, spots a killer whale."

   19. SEScott Eastwood39:17

       (laughs) That's, that's ... I think that's what they said.

   20. JRJoe Rogan39:20

       My favorite, um, broadcast moment of all time was like, one of ... It was one of these guys that's doing that. "He does this thing where he talks like this." And then a bee-

   21. SEScott Eastwood39:30

       Oh, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan39:30

       ... gets on him.

   23. SEScott Eastwood39:31

       I've seen this.

   24. JRJoe Rogan39:31

       Says, "You motherfucker, get the fuck off-" (laughs)

   25. SEScott Eastwood39:34

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan39:34

       So good.

   27. SEScott Eastwood39:35

       So good.

   28. JRJoe Rogan39:35

       Like, we need like real people news. We need like a r-

   29. SEScott Eastwood39:38

       Yes.

   30. JRJoe Rogan39:38

       Like, that guy just to drop all that bullshit and just b- be who you are when the bee was going after you.
10. 46:58 – 1:20:09

    Conflict, internet pile-ons, and the ‘Denise’ example of online tribes

    1. SEScott Eastwood46:58

       It's crazy though, like, to think about the things we do (bang sound) to other humans.

    2. JRJoe Rogan47:01

       Yeah. Horrible.

    3. SEScott Eastwood47:02

       The, like, the, the atrocities, just things. And we're, we're an evolved so- society at this point. We're an evolved species, kind of, not really.

    4. JRJoe Rogan47:11

       The most, well, really, the most evolved the world's ever known.

    5. SEScott Eastwood47:14

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan47:14

       Well, the abso- look, we are n- certainly not perfect but when it comes to conflict, we are the most evolved the world has ever known because we can, we can protest this conflict. Like, look at what's going on right now with Israel and Palestine. Whatever side of the fence you fall on, and I don't wanna be political about this, but I wanna say that the world is watching and the world is watching what's happening in Gaza. The world is d- and then people have their opinions one way or the other. But everyone is aware of what's going on in a way that has, is unprecedented. Like, if you g- you wanna go back to World War II, we would get newspapers from World War II, right? We would get, they would, they would show, uh, before movies, they would show news clips when you could see what's happening overseas and people would kind of try to put together a sense of what's going on. There's n- there's no real footage when they stormed the beach at Normandy, right?

    7. SEScott Eastwood48:12

       No.

    8. JRJoe Rogan48:13

       I mean, but we know-

    9. SEScott Eastwood48:13

       No GoPros.

    10. JRJoe Rogan48:15

        We know it must've been horrific. Horrific. But now we get to see things. We get to see the iron curtain over Israel. We get to see the, the rockets flying back and forth. It's fucking crazy. We get to see things.

    11. SEScott Eastwood48:28

        Oh, I mean, it's, it's just nuts. Over, I mean, over what? Like what... At the end of the day-

    12. JRJoe Rogan48:33

        I don't understand it.

    13. SEScott Eastwood48:33

        ... I mean, we, we're only just here for this little-

    14. JRJoe Rogan48:36

        Yeah.

    15. SEScott Eastwood48:36

        ... little blip and then it's gone. It's over. We're dust and we spend it hating each other, fighting each other. It's just, it's sad.

    16. JRJoe Rogan48:44

        Most of it, in my opinion, is an extreme lack of either one-on-one communication or the ability to come, to, to u- to understand each other.Like, if you're talking about countries, like it's, like China versus United States, or Russia versus United States, what... Like, we're not talking to them. We don't even know what their language sound. We don't understand what they're saying, right? If, if we had some sort of a war with China, we don't even know what their perspective is. We can't, we don't, we, we don't speak their language, right?

    17. SEScott Eastwood49:21

        Yeah. We're all just humans. They're humans, we're humans.

    18. JRJoe Rogan49:23

        Exactly.

    19. SEScott Eastwood49:24

        We're all, we all have to do the same thing. We're all ... Inher- inherently, there's a lot of good-

    20. JRJoe Rogan49:29

        Yeah.

    21. SEScott Eastwood49:29

        ... and a lot of good people. Why can't we just come to that middle ground and go, "Okay, look, we're, we're all here existing. Let's just try to be better."?

    22. JRJoe Rogan49:39

        Well, I think people are inherently wrapped in conflict. I think we have been since the beginning of time, because conflict is the only thing that's allowed us to survive, right? Whether it's conflict, uh, getting, you know, protecting ourselves from predators, or conflict because of, uh, raiding tribes that were trying to take what, what we had.

    23. SEScott Eastwood49:56

        Resources, right?

    24. JRJoe Rogan49:57

        Yeah. We, yeah. I mean, if you're, if you're someone who's coming from a desert and you, you run into this oasis, and this oasis is filled with people that have a, an, uh, an incredible bounty of food, but they're trying to protect it, and you have children to feed, you go into war. I mean, that, that's what's happened throughout human history.

    25. SEScott Eastwood50:14

        Yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan50:14

        People have always attacked the other, and especially if the other speaks some sort of different tongue that you don't understand, it's, it's easy to-

    27. SEScott Eastwood50:21

        So you can't find common ground-

    28. JRJoe Rogan50:22

        Yeah.

    29. SEScott Eastwood50:23

        ... and say, "Okay, hey-"

    30. JRJoe Rogan50:24

        Yeah.

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