Joe Rogan Experience #1682 - Jesse Singal

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Hello, Jesse.

   4. JSJesse Singal0:15

      Hey, man. How's it going?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      Nice to meet you. I've, I've read your tweets multiple times.

   6. JSJesse Singal0:18

      (laughs) I'm sorry to hear that.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      (laughs) You're a tweeter, man. You're out there. You're out there-

   8. JSJesse Singal0:23

      I'm try ... I wanna-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      ... wai- waiting through the swamp.

   10. JSJesse Singal0:24

       ... learn from you how to stay out of that shit. It's ... it destroys me.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       It's not for everybody to stay off. Um, uh, just I think for some people, it's a very useful tool. You know, it's very useful for ... That's how I found about you. You know?

   12. JSJesse Singal0:35

       That's good.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       I found out about you through Twitter, so-

   14. JSJesse Singal0:37

       Still worked.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       ... it's, um, it's great for promotion, it's great for getting your ideas out there, but it's not great for rational, kind discourse between other, you know, compassionate human beings. There's very little of that going on there. It's a lot of like ... It's like being in a mental health institute that-

   16. JSJesse Singal0:53

       Well, I was gonna say, I think it ... I know people from real life who, I don't know for sure, but I think, like, being on Twitter is, is exacerbating their mental illness. I think that's how bad-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       100%

   18. JSJesse Singal1:01

       ... it is, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       And during the pandemic, that was highlighted.

   20. JSJesse Singal1:04

       Oh, my God. You have nothing else to do. You're just online in this cr- ... It's like a middle school cafeteria, but more sociopathic.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       (laughs)

   22. JSJesse Singal1:10

       It's horrible.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       Yeah, it's just ... It's so bad for people and y- you see them unraveling as the days go on, and you just wanna go like, "Go run. Leave your phone at home and go for a run."

   24. JSJesse Singal1:20

       Here's what I don't get about your ability to stay off is I, I have, you know, one a millionth, um, the notoriety of you. Some people hate me, but no, you know, I have trouble not checking in on (laughs) what people are saying about me, and that, that's what fucks you up.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:35

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JSJesse Singal1:35

       'Cause then you go down this spiral and you, you pretend that this, uh, angry 15-year-old in Ohio who's talking shit about you, that you can convince him you're a good guy.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:44

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JSJesse Singal1:45

       And that's, that's crazy 'cause he's not trying to have a conversation, but I find I can't, I can't stay away from those fights with the angry 15-year-old in Ohio.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       Or angry 45-year-old in Manhattan.

   30. JSJesse Singal1:53

       (laughs)
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   I think he's just…

   1. JSJesse Singal15:00

      your listeners mostly understand he's an entertainer, but if like 1% of them believe this is true, you could see that causing trouble.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      I think he's just an entertainer. See, I, that's why I would-

   3. JSJesse Singal15:08

      You think he believes that stuff or...

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      He believes a lot of it.

   5. JSJesse Singal15:09

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      Yes. And he's right about many things and he's wrong about many things.

   7. JSJesse Singal15:13

      What percentage-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:14

      That's the problem.

   9. JSJesse Singal15:14

      ... of his craziest-sounding beliefs do you think he himself believes it?

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:17

       I th- well, the crazy-sounding ones... The problem with some of the crazy-sounding ones, they turn out to be true. 'Cause he was telling me about Epstein fucking a decade ago.

   11. JSJesse Singal15:26

       (laughs) Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       Let me tell you so- this is, this is nuts, man. Like a decade ago, he's like, "Well, what they do is they compromise all these elites. They take them, they bring them to this island, they have them fuck these underage girls and they film it." And I was like, "What?"

   13. JSJesse Singal15:37

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       That, that is so crazy. They got an island? And then it turns out to be true.

   15. JSJesse Singal15:40

       Well, the island's true. We don't know-

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       And then not only... Listen, man. It's fucking true. Like, it's, there's a lot of evidence that it's true.

   17. JSJesse Singal15:48

       Gotcha.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       There's a lot of testimony from a lot of different people. Whether or not they fucked them, they were there.

   19. JSJesse Singal15:53

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       They... And whether or not they really have film of them fucking them, it is very bizarre that you have these high-level people in both science, celebrities, politicians, and they fly to this fucking island where this convicted pedophile has this weird spot where he takes people.

   21. JSJesse Singal16:13

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       This is my point. Like, Alex told me about this a long time ago. And it sounded like Looney Tune talk.

   23. JSJesse Singal16:18

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       You know, he was te- talking to me about human monkey chimeras that they were working on a long time ago. Sounds like loony shit. I, I, I saw it on the news. I mean, there was... There's a, a science paper published about human monk- See if you can find the, the chimeras, the human monkey chimeras.

   25. JSJesse Singal16:37

       (laughs)

   26. EBEddie Bravo16:37

       Nah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:37

       That they worked it in, in embryos.

   28. JSJesse Singal16:39

       Joe and Jamie's looking for something. (laughs)

   29. EBEddie Bravo16:39

       Well, I'm looking at... I'm trying to l- watch Alex Jones's mouth.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:42

       Oh. Oh.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   I'm very scared of…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      what about that one?

   2. JSJesse Singal30:00

      I'm very scared of them.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      (laughs)

   4. JSJesse Singal30:02

      We need to, we need to protect our children.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      The frogs turning gay, he- he basically is-

   6. JSJesse Singal30:06

      It's like a kernel of truth. They're-

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      He's joking around about it.

   8. JSJesse Singal30:08

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      But there are pesticides that fuck with the gender of amphibians.

   10. JSJesse Singal30:13

       Yeah, yeah. That-

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:14

       And they, and they do-

   12. JSJesse Singal30:15

       It's the kernel of truth.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:16

       Exactly.

   14. JSJesse Singal30:16

       And then he, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:16

       It's phthalates.

   16. JSJesse Singal30:17

       Yeah, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       I mean, it's something that, um, Dr. Shanna Swan wrote about. What is the name of that book again? Sorry, we keep forgetting-

   18. JSJesse Singal30:24

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       ... the name of the book.

   20. JSJesse Singal30:24

       We'll throw that in the show notes.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       But it's a fantastic book.... about, eh, the, the way it's affecting human beings. A radical drop in testosterone levels, an, um, a, a radical increase in, um, miscarriages. This countdown, Dr. Shanna H. Swan, How Our Modern World is Threatening Sperm Counts, Altering Male and Female Reproductive Development, and Impairing the Future of the Human Race. This is a terrifying conversation that I had with her. I don't know if you listened to that one.

   22. JSJesse Singal30:51

       No.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       But it's really good. And it's just ... She's a scientist-

   24. JSJesse Singal30:54

       Yeah, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       ... and it's all just about phthalates and pesticides and the effect they have on human reproductive systems, but also on frogs.

   26. JSJesse Singal31:00

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       Like, they ... Like, pesticides really do have a, a radical impact on, on, um, on frogs and amphibians.

   28. JSJesse Singal31:06

       Yeah. Could we, uh, could we talk about my book for a minute? 'Cause I think there's some-

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       We can talk about anything you want.

   30. JSJesse Singal31:10

       Sweet. Actually, I brought you guys both copies.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   I remember being 19…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      had just completely done into, to himself. He had decided that he had taken some sort of m- fucking poison or something, you know, some horrible medication and, and far exceeding the dose he were supposed to take.

   2. JSJesse Singal45:13

      I remember being 19 and smoking weed with my roommate out of like a, a Gatorade bottle that you poke a hole in-

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      Mm-hmm.

   4. JSJesse Singal45:19

      ... and I'd be like, "Oh man, I'm so fucked up." Like, you, you have no idea. You ... We're so influenced by what we think substances are gonna do to us, it has like a profound effect on us.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:28

      Yeah.

   6. JSJesse Singal45:28

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:28

      But that probably did get you high.

   8. JSJesse Singal45:30

      This was very (sighs) sort of schwaggy Massachusetts weed, and I didn't really know how to smoke it.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:34

      It's still got THC in it if it's f-

   10. JSJesse Singal45:36

       This was pretty weak I think.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       Yeah, but if you were a kid? How old were you?

   12. JSJesse Singal45:40

       I was like 18 or 19.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:41

       Yeah.

   14. JSJesse Singal45:41

       Maybe I was high.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       I'm sure you were high. Like, l- l- w- weed, even schwaggy T- THC weak weed from Massachusetts will still get you fucked up.

   16. JSJesse Singal45:51

       There was another point I, I got a little too high and I fled the dorm room.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       (laughs)

   18. JSJesse Singal45:55

       And my roommate called me and I was convinced he was (laughs) sitting with the police trying to lure me back there to arrest me for, uh, for smoking weed.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       Sounds like decent weed.

   20. JSJesse Singal46:03

       Yeah, maybe it was actually.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:05

       (laughs)

   22. JSJesse Singal46:05

       (laughs) I shouldn't have denigrated the, uh, schwaggy Massachusetts weed.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:08

       Listen, I've had some schwaggy Pennsylvania weed and it freaked me out. Human Reactions to Rape Culture and Queer Performatory at Urban Dog Parks in Portland, Oregon. That's the paper.

   24. JSJesse Singal46:17

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       Yeah. I mean, they, they published this in Gender, Place, and Cultural: A Journal of Feminist Geography. And i- Helen Wilson, and it got applauded.

   26. JSJesse Singal46:31

       Yeah, it won an award, right?

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:32

       Yeah, I mean they were saying, "This is amazing scholarship. This is incredible work." But it just goes to show you academia's in a weird place, man. It's, it's in this weird ... It's always been in a weird place, but it's in an exceptionally weird place today with the climate of our culture, because these people, a lot of them that are teaching these courses, a lot of them th- that are professors, they went from being a student and living in this world to then getting a job at the university to becoming a professor.

   28. JSJesse Singal47:02

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:02

       So they've never been out there in the regular world outside of this insulated bubble of academia.

   30. JSJesse Singal47:10

       The same thing is happening in journalism because (coughs) especially as like more and more of us come from, um, upper middle class, like good college settings, we all have the same beliefs. We're all not really tolerant of people with different beliefs and it's turning journalism into a shit show actually.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:09:04

   The DNA analysis found…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Association accepts her is kind of a different argument.

   2. EBEddie Bravo1:00:04

      The DNA analysis found the vast majority ... Uh, it- it ... this doesn't say. It just says, "The vast majority of her lineage is European ancestry." It doesn't say how much the thing is.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      But there was ... I know for sure they did release the numbers.

   4. EBEddie Bravo1:00:16

      Yeah, this- it doesn't have the numbers. It just says, uh, "Rice-"

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      What- what you-

   6. EBEddie Bravo1:00:18

      "... results are strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the individual's pedigree, likely in the range of 6 to 10 generations ago."

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

      Um, there was, uh, an actual paper that got published-

   8. EBEddie Bravo1:00:33

      I- I clicked that link.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

      ... or, uh, an article.

   10. EBEddie Bravo1:00:34

       It's not, uh ... It's not active.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       So I don't know if that's the one.

   12. EBEddie Bravo1:00:37

       I know, but that's on her website that says it would be the PDF of the report.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       It's not active?

   14. EBEddie Bravo1:00:41

       It's not active yet.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       She ... They pulled it. (laughs) ... she pulled it off the website.

   16. JSJesse Singal1:00:44

       Can you imagine you're running for president and you have to post your DNA online (laughs) about how Native American you are?

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       No, it's because she got a job-

   18. JSJesse Singal1:00:50

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       ... that was a very lucrative job by saying that she's Native American.

   20. JSJesse Singal1:00:54

       Yup.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       And she didn't say a f- small fraction. She said she's Native American. In her defense, um, I have a friend who thought he was Native American, and that was always his family thing, and then they did a test on him and found out he had zero.

   22. EBEddie Bravo1:01:07

       Here's the best number I've found, 1/124th, or 1,024th.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:12

       Yeah.

   24. EBEddie Bravo1:01:13

       A- as low as that.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       Yeah.

   26. EBEddie Bravo1:01:15

       So-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:16

       So, what percentage is that? What is one out of 1,024th?

   28. EBEddie Bravo1:01:19

       Like 10, 30%.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       What's that?

   30. EBEddie Bravo1:01:20

       Point one, I think.

Episode duration: 3:03:18