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(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…
- NANarrator
(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (heavy rock music) Hello, Joe.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Hello, Joe Rogan.
- JRJoe Rogan
Nice to meet you in person. I've watched many, many of your videos on YouTube, and I really, really enjoy them. We sh-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Tha- that's quite flattering.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, we share a common interest, uh, this, uh, w- this fascination with ancient civilizations and, and the mysteries that kind of ... The first video I think I saw of you was, um, this video of these concentric circles in Africa that are remarkably similar to descriptions of Atlantis.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
The Richat Structure.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. And then I started reading up on it, and I'm like, "This is pretty wild." And then I got into your whole YouTube page, which is called Bright Insight, and, uh, it's really excellent. So first, before we can get it started, how did you get interested in this subject?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Well, going back to the sixth grade, that was when I fell in love with the Egyptians.
- JRJoe Rogan
Get this right up there. Yeah.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Oh, yeah. Bring that sucker up to you?
- JRJoe Rogan
There you go.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
How's that sound?
- JRJoe Rogan
Perfect.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
I've always had a fascination for the ancients. I ... In growing up in school, most topics bored the hell out of me. In math, I'd be like counting the ceiling tiles more than I'd be counting numbers. And ... But something like that, you know, the ancients, science, history, I always thought was fun. Um, but I never would've thought that I would grow up to find ... make a career out of it. Like, my story's pretty unique in that, uh, I made a lot of life changes about five years ago. I was heading down a path. I was really unhappy. I was doing a corporate life, and I was more depressed than I had ever been, and yet I had all ... everything in my life. I had a good paycheck, beautiful wife, house, everything except for a soul-sucking path of, of a career that was going to bring me nothing but misery.
- JRJoe Rogan
What were you doing?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Well, I was a fraud investigator for a large retailer, one of the largest. I'll, I'll say it's not Walmart.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Actually, I'll say it's Target. Who cares?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, Jesus. You're crazy.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Can't believe you're saying it.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
It was a sweet gig for a while. I was doing ... Uh, so I had a couple responsibilities. Internal theft and fraud, so I was investigating employees that steal from the company, and then I also managed the team that would bust the shoplifters, external theft and fraud. And that gig was awesome for a few years until ... And I'm not talking crap about Target, 'cause it's, it's a corporate thing. They're all doing the do-more-with-less philosophy. Through attrition, they get rid of other positions, and then they pass on those responsibilities to you, and then you end up doing less of what you really want to do. For example, what I was good at was busting people that were stealing from the company. Salaried managers, uh, just-
- JRJoe Rogan
How would they steal?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
(sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
The ... Like, what's ... What's the, the most clever way?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Well, so it could be something as simple as stealing cash, but that's like the easiest thing to catch-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
... so that's more rare. Uh, some people steal merchandise. So you got to think about it, like if you were to take ... 'Cause we were joking about DVDs earlier. No one's doing them anymore. But when I was ... Last year in 2014, DVD box sets for, like, television series, those things go 50, 60 bucks. But if you steal a whole box of them and you sell them on the black market-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 15:00 – 30:00
Right. Okay. …
- JCJimmy Corsetti
on it enough isn't necessarily what's brought me my ideas. I've struggled tremendously by focusing too hard and then all of a sudden when I maybe let go a little bit, I'll get this flash and I'm like, "Ah, I f- that's how it should look."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Okay.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Because especially when I'm ... these topics I'm talking about, like the, say, Atlantis, which we gotta, we're gonna have to talk about that. How do you make a video when there's like 10,000 other You- or Atlantis videos out there? What's gonna make someone wanna click on this one more than the others? So it's gotta be a title, it's maybe perhaps a little provocative or have certain-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
... keywords for the algorithm. And I've learned, like, with thumbnails, you gotta ... 'cause if people are, are literally-
- JRJoe Rogan
So you think about this shit a lot.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
About how to get people to watch a lot.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
How long, how long you been doing this now?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
I created ... all right, so, uh, August of 2016 was when my first videos started coming out. Or actually, that's not true. June, July, but those videos don't exist anymore. The earliest one you'll find on my channel will be, I believe, August of 2016.
- JRJoe Rogan
So it's been a process of, like, trying to ...
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah. The first four months, I didn't have 100 subscribers for the first four months.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're obsessed with the subscriber number and the views and all that shit, huh?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
It was a goal 'cause I'm like, all right, so I did a complete 180 in my life and I went from, like, this, this path that was more of, let's say, normal and all the check boxes, and I'm like, well, how the ... if I'm gonna do this, I wanna be successful at it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Right.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
But I wanna give back in the process. And by give back, I mean, like, teach someone something. Like, I, I don't wanna go do silly dumbass videos even if it would make me more money. I'd rather be proud of something I'm doing, if that makes sense.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Yeah. So the Atlantis one. So-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah. The Richat structure.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
I was wondering if you saw those videos, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. No, that was, that was a big one that I saw, because I've been fascinated by the concept of Atlantis, you know. Ever since I had these conversations with Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock about the Younger Dryas impact theory-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and this concept that somewhere in the roughly around 11,000, 12,000 years ago, we were hit by a series of comets. And it's pretty evident that that's a fact. If you do the core samples of the Earth, they find this nuclear glass all over the Earth that exists in that time period, and it seems like something happened that reset civilization. And there's very little, uh, evidence of advanced civilizations before that up until recently, up until the last couple of decades. They started uncovering things like Göbekli Tepe-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and all these other structures that are clearly from more than 12,000 years ago.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they're really complex and really large with enormous stones, and it's sort of caused people to rethink the history of the Earth and the, the history of human civilizations. And Atlantis has always been the big one. That has been the one that everybody talked about, was this incredibly advanced civilization.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, uh, no one can figure out where it is.
- 30:00 – 45:00
Well, we all, we…
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Let me rephrase. A civilization was around, the s- the stories of it were passed down, and they got obliterated, so that's- that's what I'm implying.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, we all, we definitely know that the Younger Dryas impact theory is-... extremely plausible. There are, without a doubt, uh, uh, like, many, many impact parts, points on Earth where they find this, uh, trite night. This nuclear glass-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... which they, you can get either from a nuclear explosion or you get it from an, a, some sort of a meteor impact, large-scale, you know, all over the continent. And we know that, uh, all over the planet, I should say. We, we know that that happened.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, this is like real hardcore geological evidence. So, if we know that there were structures before that, which we do now because of Gobekli Tepe and a few other places-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that they're r- reasonably sure were, uh, pre 11,000 years ago, 12,000 years ago-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... then we know that something was around back then that was very sophisticated. How-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
... sophisticated we don't know. But then the other thing is like, how much would be left? You know, if you ever seen those, uh, photographs of Detroit, um-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that, where you see houses that are being consumed by trees?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, uh, there's, there's some great ones in Russia as well, where they have, uh, these photographers have taken to going into these abandoned cities and watching the, the, the nature, like watching trees and the greenery consume these houses. But in Detroit, we're only talking about a couple decades. You've got trees growing through the center of houses, so the houses had holes in them, rain came in through the holes.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's holes in the floor. Something, whether it's a tree or something, grew up through the floorboards, burst through the floorboards. See if you can find some of those images, Jamie, 'cause they're really fascinating. And so for people to just get an understanding of timescale, what we're looking at in these images-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Quick one I found real fast.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, so that was one-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Not for that house, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. So, it's one from 2009 and then you see it from 2013. It's, it's basically consuming that house. So in 2009, you just have a house in between two houses. In 2013, the house is abandoned and it's being consumed by trees.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
It looks like it's been condemned. It looks like it's gonna fall in on e- itself pretty soon.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, yeah, but it's four years.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
That's, it's wild. And so-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what's crazy. In four years, I mean, if you came back four years later and you saw that the house is abandoned... Like, right now, in 2009, it looks like a normal house. Like, you drive by, "Oh, there's a house."
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
In 2013, you go, "Oh, uh, the house is getting eaten by trees." But there's some other ones from Detroit, Jamie, where you can see houses where the trees are actually growing up through the center of the house.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
I'll find one. I just, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, no worries.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Well, we lost a…
- JCJimmy Corsetti
that they had. However, when modern tests have been done and, you know, testing it on granite and limestone, it's failed miserably. And, and what I mean by that is that you can technically cut these things in half, but it takes a tremendous amount of time. And if they were alleged... Because each pyramid... And keep in mind, there's more like... Something like 118 pyramids in Egypt. A lot of people don't realize that. They just think of the th- you know, the three big ones in Giza. But all of these, if they were l- said to be tombs for the pharaohs, which I don't agree with, um, and for a variety of reasons, they were all said to be done in a chronological order and within a certain period of time. And I'm like, when you're talking tens of millions of stone blocks in aggregate, 'cause like the Great Pyramid is 2.3 million, you have the other couple that are a couple million a pop, and then it doesn't include all the other tens of millions of blocks that make up statues, casing stones, other buildings. Literally, I mean, I estimate, and this is just a ballpark, but it, there had to have been at least 50 million stones cut throughout ancient Egypt. And I'm like, when you're doing it with methods that can barely get in, more than an inch an hour? And by that I'm talking a, a copper saw, and they pour in sand and water, and essentially the quartzite particles are what's cutting it. But Joe, it's so slow, and not to mention the precision is nowhere near it. And so it's like, it, it's a mystery. Like they don't, uh... 'Cause there's a few things people need to know is that nowhere, in all the tens of thousands of hieroglyphs found throughout ancient Egypt, not one single one of them shows anything about them cutting stone, nor does it show anything depicting the construction of a pyramid. Nothing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, we lost a lot during the Library of Alexandria burning, right?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Well, yes. Although, I've... So I made a video on that years ago saying that, you know, the stupid Caesar burnt that thing down. But you know, I'm starting to think, Joe, like, the Caesars were highly intelligent and they, they were gatherers, gatherers of information and documented everything. I'm like, "You know, Joe, they kept that." I would have raided that thing, took all that information. And now it gets me thinking about like, you know, Vatican archives and stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but hold on a second. You weren't there, right? Like, uh, Ca- Caesar probably wasn't there either. They sent-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
No, he didn't. This was-
- JRJoe Rogan
They sent people.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Well, okay. Right, but he invaded. They-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. They invaded, but do you think like he was there? Like, they, they probably had a bunch of barbarians at the helm, and these savages were bloodthirsty and they're getting-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... crazy and killing people and taking over Egypt. They lit shit on fire.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They probably weren't even thinking like-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that, hey, the, the actual construction methods that, you know, we could pass down from generation to generation are here.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
It's possible.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
I don't know either.
- JRJoe Rogan
So you think they kept it in the Vatican?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Well, well, no, no. That's... Hold on. That is a fun topic. I don't, I don't... I'm not convinced of it. It just seems to me that throughout war people, gather intelligence whenever, like, they capture somebody-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
... or they kill them. And it just seems to me that the Caesars would have possibly... Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Maybe they burnt it all down or maybe they kept that stuff because-
- JRJoe Rogan
Have you been in the Vatican?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's wild.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The Vatican's confusing. Yeah, 'cause there's so much shit there. You... I, I knew that there was an im- immense amount of artwork there. But, um, when you actually go there and you see the billions and billions of dollars worth of art that was accumulated over, who knows how many hundreds if not thousands of years, it's pretty shocking.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like a wh- a raider's hoard.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, that's really what it is. It's like, the, they-
- 1:00:00 – 1:11:43
Someone shoulda stepped in.…
- JCJimmy Corsetti
And it's wild because I remember seeing this on the news and being like, "Holy shit, I stood right there." And these things were so impressive and, and the artwork themselves, the precision of them was unbelievable. Huge pieces of granite, or maybe they were, they were quartzite.
- JRJoe Rogan
Someone shoulda stepped in. I mean, we, uh, fucking Christ. If there's ever a reason to step in and stop morons from doing something horrific that is, like, a real priceless part of history, the history of the entire human race-
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
... we shoulda stepped in. Someone shoulda stepped in to stop that. That is fucking priceless stuff.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yep. It's heartbreaking.
- JRJoe Rogan
God, it's horrible. Oh my God, look at that.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
So this is what gets my brain going, Joe. I'm like, this is, humans-
- JRJoe Rogan
They've been doing this since 2014?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
Just destroying these things?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Well, they're done now.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's all gone?
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
They did their dirty work well, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fucking morons.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus Christ, look at this. This is insane.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
So, that's what stands out in my mind, Joe, is that I'm like, you know...
- JRJoe Rogan
God, that's horrific.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Yeah. And it does, something tells me this isn't the first time-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, the way they destroyed that. Oh, my God.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Mm-hmm. This can't be the first time humans have invaded a place and destroyed stuff from the past because they didn't want it to exist-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
... maybe for religious reasons or-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
... for whatever. And so when I hear about this lost history in Egypt immediately after the, the dynasty that was said to have built the pyramids, it makes me wonder what history was lost in that process by either claiming it for themselves, like, "I did this," and then- and then essentially, that was passed down to something we- we are talking about today.
- JRJoe Rogan
God, this is hard, so hard to watch. You look at those images, it's so hard to watch. You know, because, uh, I've been obsessed with, uh, the ancient Middle East as well, and like the ancient Sumerians and Mesopotamia and the, you know, basically the cradle of civilization, of- of what we know of civilization. To see them just destroy those things, like fucking Christ.
- JCJimmy Corsetti
Some of the oldest relics ever now-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
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