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Joe Rogan Experience #1773 - Akaash Singh

Akaash Singh is a stand-up comedian, podcaster, and actor. You can hear him along with Andrew Schulz on the "Flagrant 2" podcast, and watch his new special, "Bring Back Apu," available now on YouTube.

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Jun 27, 20243h 21mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:0015:00

    (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…

    1. NA

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    2. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (heavy guitar music) Well, hey, fella. How you doing?

    3. AS

      Hey, buddy. How are you?

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. AS

      I'm good. You're good? You seem good.

    6. JR

      If you stay offline-

    7. AS

      (laughs)

    8. JR

      ... it's just real life.

    9. AS

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      You just have to stay offline.

    11. AS

      And real life is people who know you-

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. AS

      ... and you're a great guy.

    14. JR

      Yeah, you, you just... life goes on-

    15. AS

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      ... as normal.

    17. AS

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      You know, in a lot of ways, like, all this is a relief, 'cause it's, like, just, 'cause that, that video had always been out there.

    19. AS

      Right.

    20. JR

      It's like, this is a political hit job.

    21. AS

      Yes.

    22. JR

      And so they're taking all this stuff that I've ever said that's wrong and smooshing it all together.

    23. AS

      Right.

    24. JR

      But it's good, 'cause it makes me address some shit that I really wish wasn't out there.

    25. AS

      And you know why I'm proud of you? 'Cause I, I think comedians have, for years, done this immature thing where it's like, "We don't apologize. We say whatever we want." You can apologize if you say some wild shit-

    26. JR

      (laughs)

    27. AS

      ... and we've all said some wild shit, and you apologize and own that it's wrong. Good for you.

    28. JR

      You should apologize if you regret something.

    29. AS

      Yes.

    30. JR

      This idea that you should never apologize.

  2. 15:0030:00

    Yeah. …

    1. JR

      'Cause Charlie Chan, the, uh, the guy who played Charlie Chan was white as fuck.

    2. AS

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      Like, it, it doesn't even look remotely-

    4. AS

      But, uh-

    5. JR

      ... Chinese.

    6. AS

      But this is also 60 years ago.

    7. JR

      Like, and so the, uh, the reality was, like, maybe they didn't have anybody.

    8. AS

      They might've not had anybody. They probably more likely didn't care in the '60s when they didn't even let Black people drink from the same water fountain or go to the same schools.

    9. JR

      Look at that picture right next to the colored one, the one in the middle.

    10. NA

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      In the-

    12. AS

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      In the... Up top in the middle. Up top in the... Right there, yeah. Click on that.

    14. AS

      Yeah, that's-

    15. JR

      (clears throat) Like, look at that.

    16. AS

      (laughs) That's, that's a white guy, for sure.

    17. JR

      That's a white guy.

    18. AS

      Even the Asian guy is looking at him like, "What the fuck is he doing?"

    19. JR

      Yeah, like, "How did you get this job, bitch?"

    20. AS

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. AS

      So, they had Asian actors.

    23. JR

      They had an Asian guy, but the Asian guy could only be the sidekick.

    24. AS

      Uh, yeah, of course.

    25. JR

      He couldn't be the main dude.

    26. AS

      Of course, and that's fucked.

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. AS

      But we have come a long way in the last 50, 60 years, and I think we're acting like it's that. Apu is not that.

    29. JR

      Well, here's a more offensive one. John Wayne played Genghis Khan.

    30. AS

      That's so funny.

  3. 30:0045:00

    Right. …

    1. JR

    2. AS

      Right.

    3. JR

      It's a different kind of scary.

    4. AS

      The stakes feel low, probably.

    5. JR

      Yeah, I'm like used to scary.

    6. AS

      Okay.

    7. JR

      I'm u- Like I've, I gravitate towards scary because I felt like there was more opportunities in scary-

    8. AS

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      ... because everybody was scared of it.

    10. AS

      Right, right, right.

    11. JR

      So they didn't want any of that scary. I was like, "I think I could do it." You know?

    12. AS

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      So I would gravitate towards things that had like low percentage outcomes of success. So like when I first started doing stand-up, like my mom had just gotten used to me fighting. Like it'd been years and years of me doing that, and then all of a sudden I was gonna do something else that had a low potential for success.

    14. AS

      (laughs)

    15. JR

      She's like, "What the fuck is wrong with you? You wanna be a loser?" (laughs)

    16. AS

      Dude, dude, my dad still says to me, "I would rather you be a doctor."

    17. JR

      Ah.

    18. AS

      ... and he still to this day, he's like, "I know it's stupid. I would rather you be a doctor."

    19. JR

      That's hilarious. Do you know Fahim?

    20. AS

      Yes.

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. AS

      Love Fahim.

    23. JR

      Fahim's awesome.

    24. AS

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      Fahim Anwar, uh, his dad wanted ... I mean, he was an engineer.

    26. AS

      Oh.

    27. JR

      He's like a legitimate engineer. Like, he's a ... Fahim's a brilliant guy.

    28. AS

      Yeah, that makes sense.

    29. JR

      And his dad wanted him to keep that job and, you know, he had eventually gotten to a point where he had enough success where he could quit the job. But he had to, like, break it to his family.

    30. AS

      (laughs)

  4. 45:001:00:00

    Sure, it's, but then…

    1. JR

      like at least gets them to get their feet wet. They-

    2. AS

      Sure, it's, but then after that, that's like .0001%-

    3. JR

      Right.

    4. AS

      ... of the work.

    5. JR

      But think about what you did.

    6. AS

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      And that would be a great service, like if, if that was taught somewhere. If like comedians put together a course where you could analyze comedy and see, like, w- what's, why is this irreverent? Why is this, uh, why is this relatable?

    8. AS

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      Why is this, uh, like, what a- what about this kind of honesty makes it funny?

    10. AS

      Yeah, and I'd be curious to revisit it, because I kept stumbling upon the same lesson, which is just how everybody packaged everything. Like, I used to think, and this is why I was bombing, I would just say things that were too harsh and I would just say them bluntly. And I'd be like, "That's what Patrice does." No, it's not. If you watch Patrice, like, uh, I remember watching Elephant in the Room, and he has that joke about you can tell how, how beautiful a white woman is by how long they would look for her if she was missing.

    11. JR

      Hmm.

    12. AS

      Such a funny premise. And he says, "That's a high-level white woman."

    13. JR

      (laughs)

    14. AS

      And he points at a girl-

    15. JR

      That's, that's a great bit. (laughs)

    16. AS

      ... and he immediately calls her beautiful because then he's saying, "All right, I'm not racist. I see that this white girl is beautiful and I acknowledge her as beautiful." And she's not overtly beautiful, but he says she's beautiful because it's, he's more likable that way. Then he says to a Black girl, "Look, you think the cops would look for you if you were missing?"

    17. JR

      Bluh.

    18. AS

      Which is crazy. And then he goes, "I would look for you, but they're not gonna."

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. AS

      So now he's removing himself from the as-

    21. JR

      Right.

    22. AS

      Dude, the, the... Society's fucked up. I care. I would look for you.

    23. JR

      Right.

    24. AS

      But society's fucked up. And it's so much more palatable than just sitting on that premise.

    25. JR

      Yeah, it's so much better. And also, there's a sort of an underlying thing where he's not really gonna look for you.

    26. AS

      Yeah. (laughs)

    27. NA

      (laughs)

    28. JR

      He's saying he's not looking for anybody.

    29. AS

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      Like, we were talking about Patrice ain't going to the woods.

  5. 1:00:001:02:08

    That's pretty crazy. …

    1. AS

      in the industry, who are strangely silent on this. But if it can benefit their career to bring up some shit like Apu, they're gonna, they're gonna raise all kinds of hell about this. And this is what's happening where we're from, where there's active suppression. And then we're, you know, undercutting our own free speech in this country, which I just think is wild.

    2. JR

      That's pretty crazy.

    3. AS

      Like, if you're gonna be for our people, be for our people, you know what I mean?

    4. JR

      So, yeah, so here's, here's what they're saying. They said he... I- it- it's... Okay. It accuses a stand-up who is Muslim of hurting Hindu sentiments. The intruder was referring not to a joke-

    5. AS

      Oh, it's about a song. That's right.

    6. JR

      ... Faruqui had made, but one he'd uploaded on YouTube in April of 2020. It referenced Rama, a widely worshipped Hindu deity, and his wife Sita. "'Oh Lord, my beloved has come home,' Faruqui starts, dropping lyrics from an enormously popular Bollywood song in which a wo- a woman celebrates the return of her lover. Then comes the punchline, 'Ramsay don't give a fuck about your beloved.' The audience erupts. He says...... I myself haven't returned home for 14 years.

    7. AS

      I think, yeah, I think the song is saying, he's calling his beloved, I think he's comparing his beloved to Sita.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. AS

      And he's like, "I'm like, uh, Ram," whatever, and he's like, "Ram, you don't g- care about your wife, dude."

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. AS

      I think that's the point of the joke. "Ram who gives a fuck about your wife?"

    12. JR

      Imagine going to jail for that.

    13. AS

      Dude, it's crazy. And I don't even, I don't even know if the joke is there anymore, but yeah, he went to jail for a month.

    14. JR

      It's been la- deleted from YouTube, but pointed out that he's been punished already. Online commentators had sent him death threats. Two police complaints were filed against him. Hoo.

    15. AS

      Yeah, dude, that's a thing. And I don't, I don't have a solution to it. I'm not gonna act like I'm the most informed person. I just think if we're all gonna be activists over here in this business, y'all are probably smarter than me. Y'all could get on that, right? As opposed to this other shit.

    16. JR

      That's real.

    17. AS

      That's real.

    18. JR

      And that's, that's crazy.

    19. AS

      Yes.

    20. JR

      And it's dangerous.

    21. AS

      It's not a microaggression, it's a macroaggression.

    22. JR

      And this is just a joke about religion.

    23. AS

      It's a joke.

    24. JR

      That's all it is.

    25. AS

      And I think it's more-

    26. JR

      I mean, it's not even that offensive.

    27. AS

      I think it's more a joke about a song.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. AS

      And a joke about religion, I grew up in the South, people take that badly in um, in Texas.

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