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Joe Rogan Experience #1864 - Alex Berenson

Alex Berenson is a journalist and award-winning author of both fiction and non-fiction. His most recent book is "Pandemia: How Coronavirus Hysteria Took Over Our Government, Rights, and Lives" is available now. www.alexberenson.com

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Jun 26, 20243h 1mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Alex Berenson Details Twitter Ban, Government Pressure, Vaccine Fallout Allegations

  1. Alex Berenson recounts how he was banned from Twitter over a 2021 tweet questioning COVID vaccine efficacy, then sued the company and was reinstated after a judge allowed his breach‑of‑contract case to proceed. He describes internal Twitter communications indicating the White House specifically pressed the platform about why he was still allowed to tweet, which he now plans to use in a forthcoming First Amendment lawsuit against the Biden administration. The conversation broadens into a critique of Section 230 interpretations, media collusion on “misinformation,” and the role of pharmaceutical companies and public health agencies in shaping the COVID narrative. Berenson also raises concerns about excess all‑cause mortality, declining birth rates in highly vaccinated countries, and the long‑term safety of mRNA vaccines, while Rogan presses on media failures, censorship, and political hypocrisy.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Platform policies can create enforceable obligations even under Section 230.

Berenson’s suit argued that when Twitter publicly adopted COVID misinformation and strike policies, it effectively modified its contract with users; a federal judge let his breach‑of‑contract claim and discovery move forward, pressuring Twitter to settle and reinstate him.

Government pressure on private platforms can raise serious First Amendment issues.

Internal Twitter Slack messages Berenson obtained suggest White House officials singled him out in 2021, asking why he hadn’t been banned; he plans to sue the Biden administration and former adviser Andy Slavitt for allegedly coercing a private company to suppress a specific critic.

Public health narratives around vaccines shifted as real‑world data emerged.

Rogan and Berenson highlight that early official claims—vaccines stop infection and transmission—have since been walked back, with platforms like YouTube now permitting statements that once triggered bans; Berenson maintains he focused on data and short‑lived efficacy from the start.

Risk–benefit calculations differ sharply by age and health status.

Berenson argues vaccines may have benefited older, high‑risk people during Delta by delaying infection into a milder Omicron era, but he sees little justification—and heightened myocarditis risk—for mass vaccination and boosting of healthy younger people and children.

Excess mortality and fertility shifts in highly vaccinated countries are under‑examined.

He points to roughly 10–15% above‑normal all‑cause mortality and notable birth‑rate drops in parts of Europe and other mRNA‑using countries, calling for serious investigation into causes including, but not limited to, vaccines instead of dismissing or blaming climate change or “long COVID” by default.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

“I wrote a tweet that began, ‘It doesn’t stop infection or transmission.’ And they banned me.”

Alex Berenson

“The White House privately demanded Twitter ban me months before the company did so.”

Alex Berenson

“Even if the vaccines worked, the way people like me were treated was wrong.”

Alex Berenson

“If telling the truth indicates that you’re gonna have a problem with vaccine hesitancy, the problem is the vaccine. The problem is never the truth.”

Joe Rogan

“I used to believe in the system broadly. A lot of people, including me, now don’t.”

Alex Berenson

Berenson’s Twitter ban, lawsuit, settlement, and reinstatementSection 230, platform moderation, and breach‑of‑contract theoryAlleged White House and federal pressure on Twitter to censor BerensonCOVID vaccines: efficacy, mandates, side effects, and age‑based riskExcess all‑cause mortality and potential links to COVID measures or vaccinesMedia behavior, Trusted News Initiative, and coordinated narrativesBroader trust crisis in institutions, public health, and journalism

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