Joe Rogan Experience #1865 - Aaron Rodgers

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   4. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      So it's good to see you, man.

   5. ARAaron Rodgers0:14

      Good to see you, man. Thanks for having me on.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      How are you doing? My pleasure. How you doing?

   7. ARAaron Rodgers0:17

      I'm doing great. Yeah, it's been a interesting, uh, year or so, but man, it's been, it's been a good year.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      What was the, the craziness like? Like when all the people were calling you a plague rat and ... (laughs)

   9. ARAaron Rodgers0:31

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       I mean, it's, it's you and, uh, how do you say the guy's name? The tennis player?

   11. ARAaron Rodgers0:35

       Uh ...

   12. Novak Djokovic.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Yeah, Djokovic. I mean, we talk about the healthiest human beings on earth, professional athletes.

   14. ARAaron Rodgers0:43

       He shouldn't play in the, in the US Open now-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Yeah. Yeah, I know.

   16. ARAaron Rodgers0:45

       ... because of this.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Which is bananas. The guy's already had COVID, recovered from it. I think he had it twice.

   18. ARAaron Rodgers0:51

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       And he's one of the best athletes in the world. I mean, the guy's body's in tip-top condition.

   20. ARAaron Rodgers0:57

       Tennis players are in incredible fitness.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       Incredible.

   22. ARAaron Rodgers1:00

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       Yeah. And, "No, you can't come. You didn't follow the rules." Like, it, it's, uh, it defies science, defies logic. It doesn't make any sense. None of it makes sense, especially at this stage of the, the pandemic, air quotes. I mean, what the fuck, man?

   24. ARAaron Rodgers1:17

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:17

       What was it like for you?

   26. ARAaron Rodgers1:18

       It, it was, it was really difficult, for sure, and a lot of different reasons. I think ... I knew that this was coming down, that at some point I was gonna talk about my status, because I'd chosen to not get vaxxed, for reasons that you talked about, uh, on your show and I talked about on, on-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       We should just say it, because, uh, it's kind of important. You, you're allergic to a medication, or, or, uh, a part of the vaccine.

   28. ARAaron Rodgers1:49

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:49

       What is it called?

   30. ARAaron Rodgers1:50

       PEG, polyethylene glycol. And, uh ... So I did my research. Um, I, I, now, I think f- typically speaking, because I'm healthy and I take care of myself, um, getting vaccinated was not on the top of my list. But, you know, I wanted to look into it because everybody was doing it and talking about it and, and trying to be safe, and I wanted to make sure I was, you know, doing my part if that's what was necessary to keep myself safe and my loved ones safe and my teammates safe. Then I, I looked into it, and at the time, I went on the CDC website and they specifically said, you know, "If, if you're allergic to PEGs, we do, we do not recommend you get vaccinated with the MRNA vaccinations." So, the only other one available was Johnson & Johnson, and it had just got pulled at the time for blood clots. So, I looked into other options, which included, uh, an immunization process through a holistic doctor, and I researched and talked to probably a dozen different MDs and found a protocol that I felt like was, was the best available.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      scare. Like, everybody was looking for Communists. They were just looking for non-vaxxers.

   2. ARAaron Rodgers15:04

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      There ... It was, it was like a fever in the air, because people had been convinced that this was the thing that was gonna get us out of the pandemic, and if you didn't follow that thing, that you were the enemy of it. So, I could kind of understand why people had that perspective if they hadn't looked into it, which is a weird term. Or at least if they hadn't, uh-

   4. ARAaron Rodgers15:24

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:24

      ... you know, it's a- it's kind of a-

   6. ARAaron Rodgers15:26

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:26

      ... shallow term. But if they hadn't, you know, consulted with real experts, especially in your case, that when you had an actual allergy. It was a- it's a particular issue. And the desire to not take the medication that was pulled for clots, that seems pretty fucking reasonable. But reason was out the window at that point in time.

   8. ARAaron Rodgers15:48

      Well, that's what was crazy to me, was people just saying, "Oh, just get the jab." You know, the Keith Olbermanns of the world. "Just get the damn jab." And I'm like ...

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:55

      That guy is the gift that keeps giving.

   10. ARAaron Rodgers15:57

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       He is fucking hilarious.

   12. ARAaron Rodgers15:59

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       Unintentionally hilarious like he's a character in a movie. I love it. I hope he keeps talking.

   14. ARAaron Rodgers16:06

       But that was the- that was the sentiment. I'm like-

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       Yeah.

   16. ARAaron Rodgers16:08

       ... uh, anaphylactic shock. Uh, also, I'm super healthy and take care of myself really well and, oh, by the way, I just went from woke up, really bad symptoms, to 36 hours later, I feel great.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:26

       Yeah, no one wanted to hear that. No one wanted to hear that there was a way that you could get through it without being vaccinated, and that you would recover very quickly. No one wanted to hear that.

   18. ARAaron Rodgers16:37

       No.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:37

       And they were coming with all sorts of reasons why you- you shouldn't even say that.

   20. ARAaron Rodgers16:42

       Oh, and they- yeah, they came after you about horse dewormer and, you know, Sanjay was on here and you mopped the floor with him and, you know. And then, you know, then he goes back on CNN and- and basically, you know, tries to rip you. It's just like- it was- it was ridiculous. But let me just say this point, 'cause I think this is really important. The- you know, the two main things against me that they wanted to say. One, that I lied. I didn't. I didn't- you didn't ask me a follow-up.

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:10

       Right.

   22. ARAaron Rodgers17:10

       But I said I was immunized and I went through an immunization process, so I don't know how you would classify that other than to say I was immunized, but that, to me, was the truth, is the truth. You didn't ask a follow-up. You ask a follow-up, I'd tell you what I mean. That- that's one. Number two, that I really- I- I don't like, um, and didn't like the characterization, that I put people in danger. Right? That I endangered my teammates, I lied to my teammates. And I already said from day one they knew. The medical staff, everybody in the organization, everybody knew I'm wearing a yellow wristband. I'm not vaxxed. Everybody knew my status. But number two, what non-vaxxed players had to do is we had to test every single morning. So, vaccinated players, testing every- once, once every two weeks. Right? Non-vaxxed, every single morning. Every off-day, uh, every day of the bye week. Off for a week while everybody else is off traveling, enjoying their life. We stay in Green Bay and we tested every single day. So, every day that you saw me, and I've said it before, I go to about two places in Green Bay. I go to the grocery store and I go to Barnes & Noble (laughs) , you know? Like, I love to read and I gotta get my groceries. If you saw me at those two places, you can be 100% sure that I tested that morning and that I tested negative. Before I even could walk into the facility, I had to test, wait in my car-... and then wait for 30 minutes for them to text, to text me and say that you're, that you're negative, you can enter the building. So, every single day, I was at the facility, every single day that any of my teammates saw me, any of my coaches, every single day that you saw me at Barnes & Noble or at the grocery store, I was negative for that day. Like I, I took it seriously because obviously there was a lot of, a lot going on. Now, I didn't believe, uh, in wearing a mask at a press conference. You have a room full of em- reporters who are fully vaxxed, wearing masks, sitting 30 feet away from me, and again, this goes to the shame, they wanted me as a non-vax player to wear a mask for an interview.

   23. JRJoe Rogan19:15

       (laughs) While you're negative? You were tested that day.

   24. ARAaron Rodgers19:19

       While I'm negative that morning-

   25. JRJoe Rogan19:20

       Yeah.

   26. ARAaron Rodgers19:21

       ... in a room full of fully vaccinated people who are, none of them are closer than 30 feet away from me.

   27. JRJoe Rogan19:28

       I don't think, during a pandemic, there's anything wrong with testing people every day. I mean, I think if you want to keep people safe, and you want to keep that from spreading throughout the team, that's probably the best way to approach it. But everything else just seems so nuts. But we're looking at it, you know, hindsight is 20/20, right? We're looking at it from after it's over. And so many people, they just bought the narrative that was being promoted by CNN and MSNBC and wherever that if the, if you get vaccinated, you can't get COVID, you can't spread COVID. That was the narrative.

   28. ARAaron Rodgers20:00

       And that's my thing. Let's ... I get it. Like-

   29. JRJoe Rogan20:03

       Uh-huh.

   30. ARAaron Rodgers20:03

       ... you want to test every- everybody every day?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Ugh. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      a lot of bugs. And when I, uh, last time I went to Mexico actually, um, when we, we went to this resort and we got to this place and they had a bowl of, like, stir-fried crickets-

   2. ARAaron Rodgers30:10

      Ugh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      ... that, uh, it was like a teriyaki flavored stir-fried cricket. I was like, "What the fuck is this?" This is like a few years back before the pandemic and I tried it and it's like, "It's not bad." It's kind of salty. They were good. It's like, just like ... A bug is no different than a crab. Crabs are delicious. They're just big bugs. That's what they are. In fact, one of the things we found out...... from Fear Factor, is that people that are allergic to shellfish are also allergic to roaches.

   4. ARAaron Rodgers30:40

      (sighs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:40

      And we found that out the hard way. (laughs)

   6. ARAaron Rodgers30:43

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:44

      This guy, but he ... I ate a roach.

   8. ARAaron Rodgers30:45

      That was great.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:46

      I ate a roach on Fear Factor.

   10. ARAaron Rodgers30:46

       Great show, by the way.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       It's a fun show.

   12. ARAaron Rodgers30:48

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:48

       But roaches don't taste bad. They don't. They taste like almost nothing. It's like a flavor ... It's gross that you're eating a roach, but when you're eating it, I was like, "This is nothing. There's not much going on here." If I had to eat roaches to stay alive, I'd eat roaches.

   14. ARAaron Rodgers31:02

       All right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       Like, if I was trapped somewhere and I had to eat roaches, yeah.

   16. ARAaron Rodgers31:04

       It's fast.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:05

       Nah. Nah, I'd rather be full.

   18. ARAaron Rodgers31:08

       (laughs) I'd rather eat meat.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       And that's scary. I, I have a distorted perception of food, obviously, because of Fear Factor, I think. I know what you can eat and what you can't eat, and it's, uh ... Most of it's psychological, and a lot of the things that we serve people, in fact, were delicacies in other countries. Like, I had a lot of Filipino friends, and, uh, they ... We, we served balut, which is a, it's a ... I believe it's a duck. It's a fertilized duck egg. And so-

   20. ARAaron Rodgers31:33

       Oh, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:33

       ... it has, like, the embryo-

   22. ARAaron Rodgers31:35

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:35

       ... in the egg.

   24. ARAaron Rodgers31:35

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:36

       And it's a delicacy in the Philippines, and so my Filipino friends were like, "That's hilarious."

   26. ARAaron Rodgers31:41

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:41

       "We eat that all the time. We love it." (laughs)

   28. ARAaron Rodgers31:44

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:44

       Have you ever seen Balut?

   30. ARAaron Rodgers31:45

       Yeah, I have now. I feel like I've seen the episode. I-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   It's a good profit…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      I believe what happened was they made 12 billion and they were fined five, which is, uh-

   2. ARAaron Rodgers45:07

      It's a good profit margin.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      (clears throat) It's just crazy that you can have any profit margin off of killing 60,000 people. And these are the people we're supposed to trust? Like, all of a sudden, people put aside all of their thoughts that they had kept ... Every ... You talk to anyone about whether or not the pharmaceutical companies were ethical, whether or not they were telling the truth, whether or not they promoted dangerous medications that were unnecessary and everybody would say yes. Those same people were calling you a plague rat. (laughs)

   4. ARAaron Rodgers45:41

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:42

      It's kind of funny now that it's over, but in the heat of it-

   6. ARAaron Rodgers45:45

      It wasn't exactly the healthiest swath of the population either that was, uh-

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:49

      No.

   8. ARAaron Rodgers45:49

      ... that was coming after ...

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:51

      Oh, no, no. The people that-

   10. ARAaron Rodgers45:52

       ... after us.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       ... came after me the hardest were fat. It was, it was hilarious. And I was like, "Do, do you understand that whatever you're doing to your body is way, way worse than what COVID's gonna do to you?" Like, what you're doing to your body by being fat like this, like if you think you're gonna preten- prevent that with some medication that just keeps you from getting COVID, and it didn't, it's still ... You're, you're fucking dying, man. You're eating yourself to death.

   12. ARAaron Rodgers46:18

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       You're eating shitty food and you're, you have a sedentary lifestyle and you're probably taking all sorts of pharmaceutical medication for anxiety and depression and all these other things that are fucking with your head. It's wild, man. It's a wild time because people really are conditioned to think that they can take a medication and cure all their ills, and cure, almost instantaneously, something that has become a problem from lifestyle choices that you have ... you've built up over years and years and years of body abuse. So, if you abused your body for so long and then you think this all of a sudden, a pain pill or a this pill or a that pill is gonna fix all that. And no one's telling you, "Hey, you gotta lose weight. Hey, you gotta drink water. Hey, you should really exercise on a regular basis. Hey, what about vitamins? Do you know about vitamin D? Look how-"

   14. ARAaron Rodgers47:09

       Go out in the sun.

   15. JRJoe Rogan47:10

       Yeah.

   16. ARAaron Rodgers47:10

       You're ... 90% of the population's vitamin D deficient, something like that.

   17. JRJoe Rogan47:13

       Yeah. It's, it's very high.

   18. ARAaron Rodgers47:14

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan47:14

       Very high. Yeah, it's-

   20. ARAaron Rodgers47:15

       It might not be 90, but I don't want to-

   21. JRJoe Rogan47:17

       It's, it's-

   22. ARAaron Rodgers47:17

       ... fact check on that one, but it's-

   23. JRJoe Rogan47:18

       I think it's in the high 70s.

   24. ARAaron Rodgers47:19

       Okay.

   25. JRJoe Rogan47:20

       I think it ... Let's find out what percentage of the population. It's probably-

   26. ARAaron Rodgers47:22

       Thank you, Joe.

   27. JRJoe Rogan47:22

       ... diminished because there has been quite a bit of publicity during the pandemic about vitamin D deficiency because they showed what percentage of people who are in the ICU, I think it was at one point in time it was 84% of the people who were in the ICU were insufficient or deficient-

   28. ARAaron Rodgers47:37

       I think that's gonna be low there, 42%.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:40

       Vitamin De- ... Hmm, interesting. It's only 42.

   30. ARAaron Rodgers47:44

       Yeah, there's-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   Yeah. …

   1. ARAaron Rodgers1:00:00

      better. If I can put somebody down, if I can rip somebody apart, if I can find somebody to be offended about, and then-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      Yeah.

   3. ARAaron Rodgers1:00:07

      ... away we go.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      That's that old expression, right? Hurt people hurt people.

   5. ARAaron Rodgers1:00:10

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      She's a damaged lady, and she decided to take it out on you.

   7. ARAaron Rodgers1:00:13

      Took it out on the wrong person though.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

      (laughs)

   9. ARAaron Rodgers1:00:17

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

       I bet she took it out on a lot of people that were the right person.

   11. ARAaron Rodgers1:00:19

       She probably did, yeah. She probably did.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

       She's probably pretty effective with those tactics.

   13. ARAaron Rodgers1:00:21

       It's like, "Hey, lady."

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

       Yeah.

   15. ARAaron Rodgers1:00:23

       "You're teaching a fucking food appreciation class."

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

       What do you learn in food appreciation?

   17. ARAaron Rodgers1:00:29

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       Is it just like, uh, appreciation of different culinary styles? Like what are you, what are you learning?

   19. ARAaron Rodgers1:00:35

       Couldn't tell you.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       (laughs)

   21. ARAaron Rodgers1:00:37

       Nothing stuck with me. (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       (laughs) Except for attitude. Yeah, that's unfortunate, man. That's, uh, there's a lot of people like that, and some of them, uh, they ruin lives, and some of them, they, they just give people fuel, they give people anger and determination to prove that person wrong.

   23. ARAaron Rodgers1:00:54

       Yeah, but the shit part is, like you said, for me, it made me just work that much harder, 'cause I'm like, another person that I can prove wrong.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Yeah.

   25. ARAaron Rodgers1:01:03

       But for people not as mentally tough, or ease, more easily offended or hurt by something like that, I mean, it's possible, like you said, that she could have, you know-... been detrimental-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:15

       (laughs)

   27. ARAaron Rodgers1:01:15

       ... to other people, why?

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:17

       Yeah.

   29. ARAaron Rodgers1:01:17

       Because you have some tiny position of power?

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

       Yeah. Well-
6. 1:15:00 – 1:17:50

   I don't think private…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:15:00

      like, some sort of a privatized version of the police. He was making a very interesting argument about it, that I'd never really considered before. And, uh, you know, I don't know if that's the solution, but something has to change.

   2. ARAaron Rodgers1:15:12

      I don't think private prisons are the solution.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:15:14

      That's definitely not the solution. No. That's definitely not the solution. That i- that's incentivizing people to create ways where people are doing something illegal. And that's what we found when, when you look into, uh, marijuana legalization. One of the biggest prop- or opponents of marijuana legalization was prison guard unions. Prison guard unions wanted no part of that, because that's gonna have less people in prison, so there's gonna be less jobs for prison guards, which is fucking wild. So you're basically using people as a battery to generate money. You're basically using human beings and you're coming up with reasons to lock them up and put them in a cage and that generates revenue for your company. And you're actively trying to make sure that laws stay in place that are unjust, because those laws, as they are now, are profitable for you. You know, we were, um, reading about this case of this guy who, uh, he was selling c- pot to an undercover cop. He sold f- on four different occasions, he sold pot to an undercover cop and when you add up all the amount of pot that he sold, it was about an ounce. And they put him in jail for 15 years, and this is in Phoenix, which i- where marijuana is now legal. So this guy is in jail, in Phoenix, for 15 years, for selling something that you can now buy at a store.

   4. ARAaron Rodgers1:16:40

      Is he out now?

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:16:41

      No, they denied his clemency because of his past record, which is t- I think is really ridiculous, 'cause if someone gets arrested and they do something and they get out, in my mind, they did their time.

   6. ARAaron Rodgers1:16:52

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:16:52

      This is a person that was punished for whatever crime. You can't apply this other crime that they've already been punished for to some new crime that, in my eyes, shouldn't be a crime at all. Especially the price-

   8. ARAaron Rodgers1:17:04

      Not, not violent crimes.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:17:05

      No.

   10. ARAaron Rodgers1:17:05

       D- it's t-

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:17:07

       Well, that's a large percentage of the people that are in jail in this country. That's why the hypocrisy about the Brittney Griner, uh, i- uh, situation was so egregious in this country. Where Kamala Harris is talking about how horrible it is that Brittney Griner's in jail. Well, you put people in jail.

   12. ARAaron Rodgers1:17:21

       She signed... Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:17:21

       You did. Thousands of people-

   14. ARAaron Rodgers1:17:23

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:17:24

       ... in jail for marijuana. Yeah, it's crazy.

   16. ARAaron Rodgers1:17:28

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:17:29

       Hello? Yeah, and they were, that was w- like, the student, uh, loan f- debt forgiveness, that's great. But w- h- how come you guys didn't exonerate people that were in jail for marijuana when you said you were going to? They said that they were going to make marijuana federally legal. They said they were gonna exonerate prisoners who were in jail for non-violent drug offenses. They s- it's what they said. None of that has happened.

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