Joe Rogan Experience #1941 - Bridget Phetasy

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      We're up. Hello, bitches.

   4. BPBridget Phetasy0:14

      Hello.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      What's happening, my friend?

   6. BPBridget Phetasy0:16

      I'm back.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      You're back.

   8. BPBridget Phetasy0:18

      With the baby again.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      (laughs)

   10. BPBridget Phetasy0:21

       Just mom-ing and working.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Did you get any sleep?

   12. BPBridget Phetasy0:24

       I don't look like it. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       (laughs)

   14. BPBridget Phetasy0:27

       I'm like, "How do I get rid of these circles under my eyes?" Um, not really, 'cause I try to work and write in particular after she goes down for ... She's sleeping, which is great.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Right.

   16. BPBridget Phetasy0:37

       It's weird how, like, "Is she sleeping?" That's the, you know ... Everybody asks you that question when you have a kid.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Yeah. Well, once you have kids, you realize, like, the- there- for the first X amount of days or years, like-

   18. BPBridget Phetasy0:50

       (laughs) Years.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       ... you're just in a fog-

   20. BPBridget Phetasy0:51

       Yeah. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       ... where you just, you don't know what's going on 'cause you're just ... That mommy brain thing is real.

   22. BPBridget Phetasy0:57

       It is. And it's the sleep deprivation, like, I, I think you pull your head out of your butt, like, in different ways. So, I feel like I just was ... came, came, came to a bit, and I'm like, "What's going on with my business?"

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       (laughs)

   24. BPBridget Phetasy1:10

       Like, I ended up having to pay this ridiculous ... I can't even get into it 'cause I'll, like, burn the whole thing down. But it was a ridiculous tax that you're generally exempt from if you file by a date, which, why do you even have this rule that punishes small businesses who are usually drowning and it's easy to miss this stupid arbitrary date. And so, the City of LA came after me, and they basically shook me down for, like, $4,000. And I was like, "I ca- ... This shit keeps me up at night, Joe." (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       Yeah.

   26. BPBridget Phetasy1:39

       I just can't tell-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:40

       Is it just an LA thing?

   28. BPBridget Phetasy1:42

       It's a City of LA thing, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:43

       Oh.

   30. BPBridget Phetasy1:43

       They have their own business tax renewa- ... You have to get a license that you re- renew. Even if you make under $300,000 as, like, an artist, you're exempt from this, which I am exempt from this, and so I'm like, "Why do I have to pa- ..." So, then it's penalties and fees. I cannot, I can't tell you. I can't tell you how this, it ... Like, I will stare at my ceiling in bed just enraged. And it's most ... I, as a business owner, I'm like, "I've got to ... The buck has to stop with me. I wanna blame everyone." And sure, this is a bullshit, bullshit law, and I ... Maybe my tax guy should have been more aware of this. (laughs) And I love him, though. I'm not blaming him either. And it has to stop with me, and so this is one of those things that probably just fell through the cracks because I had a baby and ...
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Remember the cloth ones?…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      of the evidence that shows that they don't really work, especially when you walk around with those stupid surgical masks on-

   2. BPBridget Phetasy15:05

      Remember the cloth ones?

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      ... those loose ones? Yeah.

   4. BPBridget Phetasy15:06

      I think I wore a bandana for, like-

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      Yeah.

   6. BPBridget Phetasy15:08

      ... the whole early part of the- the pandemic-

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      Yeah.

   8. BPBridget Phetasy15:10

      ... which has just made me look cool, but did nothing.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      Well, it's good 'cause-

   10. BPBridget Phetasy15:14

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:14

       ... you can keep it around your neck.

   12. BPBridget Phetasy15:15

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:15

       And it's not horrible and then you just pull it up when you have to.

   14. BPBridget Phetasy15:19

       (laughs) Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       But people realized it was just... well, we were, like, signaling, right? We're signaling, "Hey, we're trying to be a good person. We know this is weird times, you know, we're all right." But then there was a few of us that had had COVID and we're like, "Hey, this is crazy. Like, this is not much different than having a-... the flu." Like, we- we never do that with the flu. If you go... it used to be that if-

   16. BPBridget Phetasy15:39

       And you probably should with the flu.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       Yeah.

   18. BPBridget Phetasy15:41

       Way more likely to kill children, way more likely to affect pregnant women.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Yeah. Well, old people are much more affected-

   20. BPBridget Phetasy15:47

       Old people.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       ... by COVID. COVID is rough.

   22. BPBridget Phetasy15:49

       Yeah, COVID's very rough.

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       It's- it's rough on fat people, rough on old people.

   24. BPBridget Phetasy15:52

       The fats and the olds.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Yeah.

   26. BPBridget Phetasy15:54

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       That's... those are the ones that got it. And- and people with bad vitamin D and bad immune systems and, you know, and poor diet. And the thing is, like, the- the crazy thing is, like, all these people wanted to fix it with a drug. You know, that was the con-... the conversation that I had with Peter Hotez on the podcast when I asked him, like, "Do you take care of yourself?" And it turned out he didn't at all. Like, he eats junk food, he d- doesn't take vitamins, barely exercise. He would walk a little bit and-

   28. BPBridget Phetasy16:19

       But isn't that what they're trying to do now with, like, obese kids? Recently it came out.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       Yes.

   30. BPBridget Phetasy16:23

       They're like, "You can get surgery for these kids who are under 12, 12 years old."
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      by being in their prime.

   2. BPBridget Phetasy30:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      Like, if you're a woman in your prime now, there's OnlyFans and there's-

   4. BPBridget Phetasy30:05

      Ugh.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      ... all these different-

   6. BPBridget Phetasy30:06

      Yeah, we talked about OnlyFans last time.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      ... social media stuff. Fucking strange.

   8. BPBridget Phetasy30:10

      (laughs) I'm-

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      You know, influencers and...

   10. BPBridget Phetasy30:12

       I'm gr- I'm grateful, I think, of how glad I am that I came of a... I'm so worried about... I'll probably be turning to you later in life when I'm like, "How do you navigate this with girls?" Because I don't know how you do so that you keep them somewhat innocent, somewhat protected, somewhat... How do you keep them from, like...... really thinking that this is... The messaging they're getting is, like, who's the biggest star? Kim Kardashian is the person that is, is making tons of money, and all these women are making so much money on OnlyFans. And how do you tell your daughter, how do I tell my daughter, like, there's... That's not necessarily a, a way you want to... a path you want to go down?

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       Yeah. It's, it's very tricky, because, uh, also working in an office all day doing a job you hate, being exhausted at the end of the day-

   12. BPBridget Phetasy31:09

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       ... and being drained-

   14. BPBridget Phetasy31:10

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       ... and making very little money is also not a path you want to go down. But that's a traditional path.

   16. BPBridget Phetasy31:15

       Right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:16

       As... And it's obviously... It has nothing to do with your, your... the way you look and, you know, your, your pictures on Instagram. Like, that's not generating you... It's not like you're a sex object that's generating you this money. But if you're a woman that is... If you're a... any person that's doing a job that you hate, and it's incredibly time-consuming and taxes you emotionally, you're there all day, you're working in this very bizarre power structure where you have to adhere to certain social rules and regulations, and it's your whole life because it's most of your day.

   18. BPBridget Phetasy31:48

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:48

       Like, the idea that it's only eight hours a day is not true. You also have commuting. And most of these people that... if you work in a significant job, you probably have to work overtime or you're on salary, so you're working on weekends. You have projects you have to work on.

   20. BPBridget Phetasy32:01

       You gotta look put together usually.

   21. JRJoe Rogan32:03

       I, I have friends that have worked in Hollywood, you know-

   22. BPBridget Phetasy32:06

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan32:06

       ... like, in studios and stuff like that, and the, that work is n- never over.

   24. BPBridget Phetasy32:11

       No.

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:12

       You take it with you on the weekends.

   26. BPBridget Phetasy32:13

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:13

       You're always exhausted. You know?

   28. BPBridget Phetasy32:15

       So, you're telling me that they should probably sign up for OnlyFans? (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:18

       Well, it's like, what do you want to do with your time? I mean, you can... Look, Kim Kardashian is a good example. Like, Kim Kardashian, as much as people like to give her a hard time, she's worked very hard to get innocent people-

   30. BPBridget Phetasy32:28

       Oh, yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      there's been a lot of, you know, a lot of the far-right people, the, the far right. A lot of, you know, Christians were protesting against this. And then-

   2. BPBridget Phetasy45:09

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      ... they find it offensive and libs of TikTok will, you know, find these videos and post it. And the thing is, it's like it's not one. It's not just one instance where some wacky community thought it was cool to do this. It's like, "Why is this happening and why was this never happening before?" And as this, um... Is this a side effect of openness and tolerance where... Because we're, you know, more open-minded towards people that are trans or drag queens or what have you, in that there's going to be like some outer l- limits of this push. You know, like what-

   4. BPBridget Phetasy45:44

      So-

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:45

      You've seen that, right?

   6. BPBridget Phetasy45:46

      Yeah, yeah. I've seen it. I, I think it's... It's always interesting because, like, libs of T-... It's easy to, like, cherry pick one or two things. And like you said, there's many instances of this, and I've seen them, and I don't understand, like, bringing your child to something like this. I, I don't know how, like, common that is or if it's a cherry-picked instance that now gets picked up by everybody as kind of charm and passed around, and it's something that happened once. And now it seems like, "Oh, everyone's doing this." And they'll do-

   7. JRJoe Rogan46:20

      It's not everyone. But the thing about the internet is there's so many instances, there's so many of them, and then people see those instances and they duplicate it, which is-

   8. BPBridget Phetasy46:30

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan46:30

      It becomes acceptable.

   10. BPBridget Phetasy46:32

       Right. So I guess the, like, pushback I've heard from... My whole question is like, how did Drag Queen S- Story Hour, let's just talk about Story Hour, become a thing?

   11. JRJoe Rogan46:43

       Right.

   12. BPBridget Phetasy46:43

       When did-

   13. JRJoe Rogan46:43

       No, what did, what do you mean by that?

   14. BPBridget Phetasy46:44

       Like, ho-

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:45

       Drag Queen Story Hour?

   16. BPBridget Phetasy46:45

       ... how, what's the-

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:46

       So it's drag queens reading stories to children?

   18. BPBridget Phetasy46:47

       Yeah, and the pushback is-

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:50

       History, 2015 in San Francisco. Drag Queen Story Hour started in 2015 in San Francisco, was created by Michelle Tea, T- T-E-A, um, then executive director of the nonprofit Radar Productions. Nonprofit, LOL. The first events were organized by Julian Delgado-Lopera of the Virgie Tovar, and Virgie Tovar. Tea, who identifies as queer, came up with the idea after attending children's library events with her newborn son and finding them welcoming but heteronormative. (laughs)

   20. BPBridget Phetasy47:26

       Okay.

   21. JRJoe Rogan47:26

       She imagined an event that was more inclusive and affirming to the LBGTQ families. Okay. First event was held at Eureka Valley Harvey Milk, uh, Memorial Branch Library, LBGT Castro neighborhood of San Francisco, and featured drag queen Persia as well, and was well-received by that community, I guess. And other DSH events in San Francisco featured several drag queens of color, including Honey Mahogany, Eve St. Croissant, and Panda Dolce. As of February 2020, there are 50-plus official chapters of DSH spread internationally, as well as other drag artists holding events at libraries, schools, bookstores, and museums. October 2022, a nonprofit organization officially changed its name to Drag Story Hour to be more inclusive-

   22. BPBridget Phetasy48:20

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan48:20

       ... and reflect the diverse cast of storytellers.

   24. BPBridget Phetasy48:23

       They got it in trouble. For Queen.

   25. JRJoe Rogan48:24

       Yeah, Queen. You can't say just Queen.

   26. BPBridget Phetasy48:25

       Well, so-

   27. JRJoe Rogan48:26

       I'm a drag king.

   28. BPBridget Phetasy48:27

       I know... I think even Sarah Silverman did like a whole video about this, but she was saying, "What's the difference between, like, a drag queen and a clown reading to your kids?" And-I mean, clowns are fucking creepy. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan48:40

       They're fucking creepy. Yeah, those are weird, too.

   30. BPBridget Phetasy48:41

       So, I'm- I'm- I'm actually maybe more inclined to be creeped out by a clown than a drag queen. (laughs)
5. 1:00:00 – 1:14:07

   That's what I mean.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      to talk about things, to protest, to do what you want-

   2. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:03

      That's what I mean.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      ... freedom is so fucking important.

   4. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:05

      Inherent in the idea of a free country is the right to protest.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      Right.

   6. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:10

      They go hand in hand. That's why that headline is beyond parody.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      But it's actually something that's being pushed on the CBC, which is really crazy.

   8. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:21

      Well, it's sinister.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

      'Cause, like, they, they're setting you up for this idea that you requesting freedom, it's like, i- it puts you in the category of anti-vaxxers or racists or-

   10. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:30

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

       ... far right people. It's just these weird ways that mainstream media has fallen into labeling people in order to pass an agenda and pass this, this, b- b- b- to put this narrative out there. But the, the, the fact that they're willing to do it with something that is so important, like freedom.

   12. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:51

       Like protesting.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

       Yeah.

   14. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:52

       Protesting is fundamental to freedom, so to say that using the word freedom is something that protestors use, you're basically, this is like-

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

       (sighs) But not just protest-

   16. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:04

       ... China stuff.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

       ... far-right pro-, 'cause you get have far-

   18. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:07

       Far-right protestors.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:07

       ... far-left proto- protesters and th- that's not being talked about. Like, freedom is very important and important.

   20. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:13

       (laughs) Yeah, they don't want freedom. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       The fact that they're saying that there's an actual article disparaging the concept of freedom, it's really crazy and scary as fuck. And I never would've thought before the pandemic that that would've happened to Canada. I thought Canada was this, like, really friendly, cool place where they kinda got it. Like, Canada was kinda better than the United States, in my opinion. I would go up there and, like, people are friendlier, they're nice. It's like, I would say with Canada, I always used, used this term, there's 20% less douchebags.

   22. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:41

       Yeah. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:42

       'Cause that's what it's like.

   24. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:43

       I, uh-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:43

       But n- now under Trudeau, it's like it's become this very weird thing. Have you seen they're, they're trying to push for a digital ID now?

   26. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:52

       Yeah. I mean, that d- I have a friend, Ana Slats, she is the founder of Redux, that, the, um, the, the website that does a lo- she covers a lot of the gender stuff because she's just, like, a feminist who's on it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:02:07

       Uh-huh.

   28. BPBridget Phetasy1:02:08

       And she's Canadian, and I asked her about this and that there's no way I'm gonna be able to, I, I would butcher her explanation, but she has a really interesting explanation for why Canada has gone in this direction, and I wi- I w- I wish I was smart as her and, and, and articulate, but she, I w- I was like-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:27

       Well, try to paraphrase it. What do you mean?

   30. BPBridget Phetasy1:02:29

       It was, it was essentially something about the way that Canada is fou- was founded, so how (sighs) I wish could remember it. It, it's, I just don't know enough about Canada.

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