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Joe Rogan Experience #1989 - Andrew Dice Clay

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Jun 27, 20242h 53mWatch on YouTube ↗

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    (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

    1. NA

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. AC

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Yeah. Number one, it's great to see you.

    4. JR

      Great to see you too.

    5. AC

      Let me just do, uh, you know, what I gotta do. You know.

    6. JR

      Are these your, uh, podcast glasses?

    7. AC

      I got 'em.

    8. JR

      You got special ones?

    9. AC

      W- what's his name?

    10. JR

      Jamie. That's your name, Jamie.

    11. AC

      Jamie. Y- you do understand I'm doing the Joe Rogan Experience, right?

    12. JR

      He's doing the Joe Rogan Experience.

    13. AC

      So why wouldn't I-

    14. JR

      Yeah, you gotta swap glasses.

    15. AC

      ... use the best?

    16. JR

      Ooh, I like those.

    17. AC

      We go with the chrome.

    18. JR

      I like it.

    19. AC

      You see what happens-

    20. JR

      I like it. I like the chrome.

    21. AC

      We go with the chrome.

    22. JR

      I like it. I like how you have a case.

    23. AC

      And-

    24. JR

      Those are serious shades.

    25. AC

      This is the experience. This is your sh-... You've-

    26. JR

      Hmm.

    27. AC

      ... now taken over everything.

    28. JR

      Hmm.

    29. AC

      In my opinion. And I'm proud of you for that.

    30. JR

      Thank you.

  2. 15:0030:00

    Good. …

    1. AC

      crazy. So I figured, go into my fat girl stuff.

    2. NA

      Good.

    3. AC

      And that ended with, "You don't know where the tits begin and the belly ends, it's like one big glop of shit," right?

    4. NA

      (laughs)

    5. AC

      And I go... Now I go, 'cause they gave me a signal, "Ladies and gentlemen, the last Puritan, Cher." And she comes out singing If I Could Turn Back Time, which is-

    6. NA

      (laughs)

    7. AC

      ... what everybody was thinking in the room, If We Could Turn Back Time about eight minutes. But in the meantime, while I'm doing the act, Dick Clark goes to charge me and Arsenio jumps on his back and tackles him.

    8. NA

      Dick Ch- Dick Clark's trying to stop your set?

    9. AC

      Dick Clark was gonna jump... He went out of his fucking mind.

    10. NA

      Oh my god.

    11. AC

      His hair got messy, I'll put it to you that way.

    12. NA

      (laughs)

    13. AC

      So now...

    14. NA

      (laughs)

    15. AC

      Now I come off the stage, Eddie, right?

    16. NA

      Jamie.

    17. AC

      Jamie.

    18. NA

      Jamie.

    19. AC

      Listen, Jamie.

    20. NA

      Young Jamie.

    21. AC

      Young Jamie. So now they're taking me into the press tents, not one question was asked. And, and it was all the press in the world. Sandy Gallin calls me at home, he goes, "I was praying that what I was watching on TV was only coming through my television."

    22. NA

      (laughs)

    23. AC

      Then I get a call, you know, from a club owner. Remember Rascals in West Orange?

    24. NA

      Yes, sure.

    25. AC

      The owner, Mark Magnason?

    26. NA

      Yeah.

    27. AC

      Great, greatest guy. So Kennison was there, who... I always say he was having a rivalry with me. I was happy for him when his career took off, I was thrilled for him. He had no problem with me 'cause I was on the show Crime Story at the time. But... And he was doing, I don't know, four or 5,000 seats a night. He was the guy before I took off. When my career took off, it went straight to arenas. I was doing 80 to 100,000 people a week and he just couldn't handle it, for whatever reason. But he goes, "So Kennison's watching this going, 'That's it, he's done, he's finished.'" In the meantime, the reality was, I went from doing one arena show, let- let- let- let's say at The Spectrum in Philly, to two arena shows.

    28. NA

      (laughs)

    29. AC

      Or three arena shows, where Bill Burr saw me at, um... In Boston, at whatever arena I did there. I had one show, it went to three shows. It just got bigger and bigger and bigger, nothing was hurting. And so the next day there's this big meeting at MTV, and Rick Rubin was there, you know, and, you know, my, my people that I worked with, uh, Sandy Gallin, all these... But it was the president, they're banning me for life, you know, which is hilarious. I'm not even a singer, you know?

    30. NA

      (laughs)

  3. 30:0045:00

    (laughs) …

    1. AC

      college you think Dice went to."

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. AC

      You're never gonna find those fans. One of them-

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. AC

      ... might say something like, "Well, I heard he lived near a college." You know? (laughs)

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. AC

      You know what I mean?

    8. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    9. AC

      So, but, you know, with the pyramid thing, why nort? Just on that.

    10. JR

      What about the pyramid?

    11. AC

      Why nort?

    12. JR

      Why nort? What's up with-

    13. AC

      No, nort, like-

    14. JR

      North?

    15. AC

      You know how you s- uh, they point north-

    16. JR

      North, south, east, and west. North, north.

    17. AC

      No, but there's a reason, like, they're north or something?

    18. JR

      Well, the pyramid is, the way it's set on the Earth-... it, it is, it's, it points directly north, south, east, and west, apparently. Like the, like f-find out what the, the way the pyramid is aligned with the earth. There's also the height of the pyramid.

    19. AC

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      There's like a lot of mathematics, but this is all like Randall Carlson stuff.

    21. AC

      Like with the eucalyptus and the world.

    22. JR

      Yeah, the eucalyptus, yeah. (laughs)

    23. AC

      You know, with the-

    24. JR

      The equator.

    25. AC

      ... with the width and everything.

    26. JR

      Well, it's, it's also the three pyramids align with these certain stars in the sky and the Orion Belt. It's, there's a lot of complicated stuff with the pyramids.

    27. AC

      Yeah, because you really delve into this stuff. Now, delve is not an easy word.

    28. JR

      Delve? (laughs)

    29. AC

      I'll just tell you that, Vincent. You know, delve is not an easy word.

    30. JR

      It's hard to use and not sound pretentious.

  4. 45:001:00:00

    It's hydromatic. Watch Grease…

    1. AC

      N' Roses and Slash. They came to rehearse. We did it. People went berserk. They're in my dressing room with Sly Stallone, with Cher. I think we got pic- ... Is that a drum one?

    2. NA

      It's hydromatic. Watch Grease Lightning. Grease Lightning. Wow. If you want to take a water cooler, baby. It's a full bar of fun for you. If you're injecting color through chrome-plated rods from here. With full speed ahead-

    3. JR

      (laughs) You gotta see the dance.

    4. NA

      ... and nothing fall. You know that ain't no shit. You'll be getting like this when you do slide. Go on, slide me. You're burning up the quarter mile.

    5. JR

      Did you like doing this more than the standup?

    6. AC

      100%.

    7. JR

      Really? You can kinda tell.

    8. AC

      Because I get to entertain.

    9. NA

      If you want to take some pretty woman home. Do the slide. Go, go, go, go.

    10. JR

      Yeah, watch him. Look at you go. (laughs)

    11. NA

      Go on, slide me. You're burning up the quarter mile.

    12. JR

      So you were upset that they never brought this stuff up.

    13. AC

      They would never write it up. You know, they just made like it was an hour of just foul language, and that was it. And my father used to get crazy from it because he's the one... He was behind me from day one, you know. And (laughs) he had ... At th- My father went from having a, a toy store to being a big builder. Like, in, in Staten Island, he was the first builder to go into Staten Island and build like the newer homes. And we lived there from the ... I was seven til I was 12. And we basically got chased outta ... Well, he got chased outta there. You know, he knew he had to leave because he wasn't a gangster. So ... And the gangsters were taking over Staten Island. They would just... They would build their houses across the freeway. They, there was no zoning laws. So we went to Florida for like six months and then back to Brooklyn, you know, from 13 to 21, and then I was out in LA doing the Travolta act. That's how it started, me doing Travolta, which I gave you pictures, even me holding up how closely we look the same. You know, it was a whole Travolta act. And even the way that started, you know, was, um ... You know, I saw Travo- I was always able to do ... (laughs) This is what-

    14. JR

      That's pretty close.

    15. AC

      Wait, show the other one where I'm greased up. Is there another one?

    16. NA

      Probably, maybe. I don't know. There.

    17. AC

      Oh, je- Yeah. There. Um, that's my ...

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. AC

      I'm doing my first interview. So I'm working for my father on Court Street now. He has a process serving agency. And that's how I would walk around 'cause once I got into it, I became it. So I'm picking up summonses from attorneys walking in as that guy.

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. AC

      And I'm doing Travolta. I'm going, "Yeah, you have some summonses for royal process serving?"

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. AC

      You know, and ... You know, I'm doing Vinnie Barberto. (laughs) "Listen to this. You're gonna die. I swear, you're gonna crack up," right?

    24. JR

      And this was when that was on the air?

    25. AC

      This is... No. Yes, yes. And this is after Fever hit. The, the way I got... Can I take these off now?

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. AC

      So the way I got into it ... So since I was in high school, when Travolta hit with Barbarino, I realized I could do like the perfect Barbarino. But what am I gonna do with it other than entertaining high school kids? Now he comes out with Fever, and he dances. Great. But the night I saw Grease was the night my life changed. And there was no videos back then. You, you understand? So I'm coming home, and I'm like, "If I could turn-"... from an impression I'm doing since I'm a kid, seven years old, Jerry Lewis, nutty professor who would turn into Buddy Love. But if I could turn into Travolta from, from Professor Kelp, it would just kill as an act. Only, I w- I never do anything fake so I had to be able to sing as Travolta doing Grease Lightning, as you saw live. So I go to a studio in Brooklyn where, 'cause I kn- that's what I would do. I would drum, sing but, so I knew about, you know, where bands would go to, to record albums. So I went to a studio on Kings Highway in Brooklyn called Fly Studios, and I bring the Fever album and I bring Grease. And I ask these guys, "Can you get the lead vocal out of Grease Lightning?" 'Cause I'm not gonna do it fake. If I can't sound like him, I'm not doing the act. They got it out. I rehearsed for three weeks doing this act that these two guys, and I know it sounds like one of my old jokes, "What are your names, Neil and Bob? Is that, like, what you do?" You know, that was a heckler line. Right. But the guys that owned the studio's names were Neil and Bob. (laughs) Okay. So these guys are watching me, you know. I'm in the part where you could record and they're working, you know, the whole, you know, the, the board. And I come out of the bathroom looking like Jerry Lewis, the nutty professor. I'm like talking to the mirror, "Actually, uh, actually I'm a pity, ladies and gentlemen and I, I have my magic formula." And I'd take the formula and I'd say, "Okay, hit the music." There was an intro and I'd be in the dark, rip off the Jerry Lewis stuff, and now I'm Travolta from Grease. And I did that act at Pips in Brooklyn, which I think you got a picture of the owner with Rodney Dangerfield outside the club. Um, so I, I go to Pips on audition night and I come up as Jerry Lewis and I got my whole family there. My mother, my father, my sister and, 'cause I'm telling, "Don't forget, come to Pips." But what, what was amazing, when I put the act together, I had to sit in the theater all day and watch Grease with a pad like this and write down names for the moves Travolta was doing, or else I'd forget when I would rehearse the act that you were seeing. That, the guy in the middle, his name is George Schultz, you know, and Pips was the first real comedy club in America. Really? And it spawned Rodney. What year was that? Uh, I don't know what year they opened. I think he opened in the '60s and he, George himself should've been a comic. He just wasn't, okay? But he gave Rodney the line, "I don't get no respect." At least- Ah. Yeah. And he helped different guy- David Brenna every time he was gonna do- '62, holy shit. Yeah. And that- '62. It was a sushi place. So when- Mambo Sushi, look at that. Yeah. And he turned it into Pips. Wow. David Brenna. Wow. Any time Brenna was gonna do the Carson Show, George would help him with his set. So when the business wasn't doing well, Brenna would give them all kinds of money to survive, and the two sons ran the club. So I show up there. My parents are there. Now picture your parents, now you, your own parents watching Joe go on stage doing an impression he was doing at five. Going, "Really? This is why we're here?" Boo. And I'm on stage, I'm still 20 years old doing the Jerry Lewis, "Actually, ladies..." And, and it's a Brooklyn crowd just booing the fuck... "Get the fuck off! You fucking suck!" And I'm just committed. I go, "I have put together a formula." .......................... Like, okay. (coughs) I take the formula, um, Seth Schultz knew, shut the lights. I turn my back to the crowd. They're sc- they're screaming. You got 100 people, 99 people screaming to get outta the, off the stage. I'm slicking my hair back. I'm staying calm. Music starts. It's from Fever. "Ladies and gent-" To, uh, Disco Inferno, "Ladies and gentlemen, somebody new, somebody exciting and da da... Ladies and gentlemen, Andrew Clay." And I turn around with that, that, when you saw me in the leather jacket, that look, and I just pose and I start, like, a fake walk like Travolta in Fever, and they're starting to scream. Now it's turning. I wait 'cause I always wait. (laughs) Even to this day when I'm on stage I just wait. And, um, so I wait til it quiets down and I come up to the mic and I'm like, "Duh, huh, huh. So you thought it couldn't be done, right?" The place went nuts. Now I talk about the car. Here comes Grease Lightning. When I did Grease Lightning, you're talking about Brooklyn animals, and I know you know about that stuff 'cause you're from Boston. You know what kind of a- East Coast people. Yeah. They were throwing tables over. They're going fucking berserk. I don't even know what just happened. And as I'm leaving with my family, here come the two sons going, "Wait a minute, where you going?" You know. "Who are you?" Like, "What is that?" You know. They go, "We, we, y- you got a manager?" You know. And I just look at my father and I go, "Yeah, he's right here." And e- my family is stunned from what they just witnessed and they go, "Um, we wanna book your son to headline this coming weekend."... you know.

    28. JR

      What?

    29. AC

      And I go-

    30. JR

      First time on stage?

  5. 1:00:001:15:00

    Oh, yeah. …

    1. AC

      me and Rick are talking and I go, "You know, you know how much I love going on late at night and just, you know, no reaction," 'cause that's how my career got made. I was always, like, one of the last few acts at night at the Comedy Store. You know, 'cause of the kind of stuff I did. So there's, you know, people sitting quiet. You got a drunk in the front with his head on the table, and you got four people that are just too tired to leave. You've had those sets.

    2. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    3. AC

      You know? And I go, "I wanna do, like, the ultimate late night set." You know? And s- he sorta had the same thought process. Like, we just go unsuspecting crowd. You know, and this is, like you would say, at the height of doing the arenas, what, uh, you know, craziness surrounded me at that time. It was like the Lady Gaga of standup comedy, you know? And now I just wanna go up in front of a few people with no notes, with no idea of what the album's gonna be. And we, what, we do three nights at Dangerfield's and it winds up the double CD The Day the Laughter Died. Okay-... and I'm just loving it, you know. The silence-

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. AC

      ... the smoke. You could hear me smoke.

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. AC

      You know, people walking out, you know. We, and we didn't cut any of it, you know. Like I said, "Keep it in there," you know. It's great, you know. I really got angry, you know, at this family that came in. See, this'll lead to, could set me up for Saturday Night Live to tell you stuff, but... So th- this family comes in, these real fucking out-of-towners from, I don't know, Midwest, Bible Belt, you know, whatever they were, but they were all wearing the same coat and the same hat with the, with the bow on top. Two daughters, mother, father, and they're sitting in the front and the more I got into them, the more the father laughed, and I got angry at that 'cause I'm going, "This guy..." I would imagine in my mind that this guy really looks to fuck around with his daughters. They were old enough, you know. They were like... I don't remember the ages, but I don't know, young 20s, late teens. And I'm going, "Why is this motherfucker laughing when I'm doing this instead of going, like, cut it out?" 'Cause I know if I was sitting there with my two daughters and some comic, some asshole on stage is going, "So you like to have her on your lap?" or whatever I said on the album, you know, I'd look at the guy and go, "Walk away from me and my family," or "There's a problem," you know. That's how I would get. This guy's laughing and I'm angry about it.

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. AC

      You know? So the more he would laugh, the more I would go after this motherfucker. But there's also no laughs. That's the part I did enjoy. The actual silence of the room or somebody walking out and yelling... What's that? There's a famous one line on that where-

    10. JR

      You're about as funny as a glass of milk.

    11. AC

      You know the album better than me-

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. AC

      ... which is ridiculous. Why would you know? That's it.

    14. JR

      I love that album.

    15. AC

      That-

    16. JR

      Let me tell you how I found out about that album. There's a great comic in Boston named Mike Donovan. Mike Donovan got the album-

    17. AC

      I know that name. I don't know Mike.

    18. JR

      And you know, he's a very funny comic, very good guy, and he was a great guy when I was an open mic-er, would give you real good advice. He was the first guy to tell me, "Take a tape recorder on stage." He goes, "Sometimes you say things, you forgot what you said. Like, sometimes you said it in a different way and it's much better. You gotta listen to your recordings." Mike Donovan got ahold of your CD and he was in the back room of the fucking Comedy Connection, howling laughing-

    19. AC

      (laughs)

    20. JR

      ... at you doing Nix- "I'll do Nixon in that ass." (laughs)

    21. AC

      (laughs)

    22. JR

      And, and that to him was like one of the funniest fucking things. This guy was, he was laughing so hard. He was like, "He's a fucking psycho. He's out there bombing. He doesn't give a fuck. There's no laughs and it's hilarious. It's so ridiculous." This guy loved it. And, and I went out and got it. And I remember, you know, at the time, I was real young in comedy-

    23. AC

      (laughs)

    24. JR

      ... and for, like for me, the idea of wanting this out there didn't even make any sense. Like, why would he do this? (laughs)

    25. AC

      You don't know how much that means to me. See, that's what I lo- like to hear, you know.

    26. JR

      You know, it was, it was amazing to me because people try to pigeonhole you as this one-dimensional thing, and that is, that you're, you're missing the beauty of what he does. I always tell people this. I go from the... First of all, he's the first guy ever in standup that people knew the jokes and wanted to say the punchline along with him.

    27. AC

      (laughs) It was craziness.

    28. JR

      It became a different thing. I go, "You have to understand, he cracked a code."

    29. AC

      Well, that-

    30. JR

      This rhyme thing, what you did was, it was comedy plus. Like, it was another level of enjoyment.

  6. 1:15:001:21:57

    You think that guy's…

    1. JR

      (laughs)

    2. AC

      You think that guy's gonna be confident?

    3. JR

      Right.

    4. AC

      He knows what he looks like, so he's gonna be self-deprecating. And that's how comics would get laid back there, you know-

    5. JR

      Uh-huh.

    6. AC

      ... in those times. They weren't good-looking people. Today, you got better looking people.

    7. JR

      But Lenny Bruce was a good-looking guy.

    8. AC

      Yeah, I, yeah, which his mother said to me. That was a big compliment, 'cause I'm with Mitzi, and Mitzi would say to Sally, 'cause I used to sit with Sally at Schwab's, you know, and she'd always go, "Oh, you're handsome like my Lenny."

    9. JR

      Wow.

    10. AC

      It was a compliment, 'cause I knew he was a nice-looking guy. And Mitzi would say to Sally, she'd go, "He's a movie star. He's not even a comic," you know. She never had that. The, all those comics back then, just look at 'em. Look at the-

    11. JR

      Hmm.

    12. AC

      ... pictures on the wall at The Comedy Store and you'll know, but just to get back to The Day After Laugh Died, 'cause people are listening, um, so Geffen tells me, "Why? Why does this have to be? Why can't we just trash this?" And I go, "'Cause it's never been done. Every comic gets recorded. They do their very, very best to kill. I did my best to bomb."

    13. JR

      Dude.

    14. AC

      You know, I just wanted to see what I could come up with in front of a couple people." He goes, "But why a double album? Why can't it just be a s-"

    15. JR

      (laughs)

    16. AC

      I go, "Same reason. Never done," okay?

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. AC

      And Mitzi, by the way, would come to the arenas with me when I did the Forum. I'd pick her up in the limo. She'd fly to New York. She was at the Garden. She was at the Meadowlands-

    19. JR

      Oh, awesome.

    20. AC

      ... which sold out at that time.

    21. JR

      That's awesome.

    22. AC

      Meadowlands, biggest arena ever, 21,500, sold out in 40 minutes.

    23. JR

      Wow.

    24. AC

      That my, my agent, Dennis Offer, at that time, who the only other comic he's ever handled was Rodney, and I'd been with him and Pete Pappalardo for 35 years, okay, my whole career. And when Dennis saw me do the Rodney special, um, he came over to me. He goes, "I've seen every comic. I come to every one of Rodney's specials. I never wanted any of them. I want you." And I, I'd been with him all this time. And, uh, so I'll tell you the rise to the arenas. But, so Mitzi comes over my house. I'm just trying to keep my place here for you. After the David Geffen experience, okay, and she goes, "I wanna hear this album. I'm hearing things about it," you know, and it's not out yet, you know. So I, I put on a CD, and she's listening. You know Mitzi. She's always truthful, you know, tells you how she thinks. And she goes, "Andrew, what is this?" I go, and I want to laugh in her face but I gotta keep it str- I go, "Uh, it's my new album. What do you think?" She goes, "It's gonna ruin your career." I go, "This?" Um, "I don't think so. Just like you told me about Dice would never work, you know, it's not gonna ruin the career." I go, "I don't want..." She goes, "I don't wanna see your career. You worked so hard to get the..." I go, "Don't worry about it." Bottom line, album comes out, four days, gold.

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. AC

      I don't even know how many platinums it is to this day.

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. AC

      It's the biggest selling comedy album ever, as far as I know, okay? The biggest comedy, and for comics, it's like a bible for some fucking reason. See, I don't see what you see. I just know I like being a guy that, that did things first. See, that's what I loved about Elvis. When Elvis came along, there was nobody for him to talk to, to go, "How do I handle being Elvis?" You know?

    29. JR

      Yeah, but you understand like the, the, the, just the ability to put out something of you bombing in the height of your stardom. Do you know how nuts that is? Like, it's really hilarious. I know you just did it 'cause you wanted to be first, but it's just-

    30. AC

      Well, no, but I also know how-

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