Joe Rogan Experience #2029 - Bill Maher

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. BMBill Maher0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Hello, Bill Maher.

   3. BMBill Maher0:13

      Hi, Joe.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Good to see you.

   5. BMBill Maher0:14

      Great to be in Austin.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      What's happening? Look at you. You're all comfortable and shit. (laughs)

   7. BMBill Maher0:18

      I asked you before if I could put my... I don't know.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Of course. We want this table-

   9. BMBill Maher0:22

      Thank you.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       ... as dirty as possible.

   11. BMBill Maher0:22

       I... (laughs) It's not like I'm messing it up.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       No.

   13. BMBill Maher0:25

       Let's be honest.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       I like it lived in.

   15. BMBill Maher0:27

       Um...

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       I like it stained and-

   17. BMBill Maher0:29

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       ... ashes and all that jazz.

   19. BMBill Maher0:32

       How you doing?

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       I'm good, man. What's happening?

   21. BMBill Maher0:34

       In town to, you know, do my thing.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Doing a show tonight at ACL, right?

   23. BMBill Maher0:38

       Telling jokes to strangers, what we do.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Nice. Nice.

   25. BMBill Maher0:41

       And, uh, of course, when I got the invite, how can you, how can you turn down the king? I know you hate being called the king-

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       (laughs) .

   27. BMBill Maher0:49

       ... but you are, Joe. So bask in it a little.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Well, thank you very much.

   29. BMBill Maher0:52

       Yeah. So-

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       It's always good to see you.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

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   1. BMBill Maher15:00

      first of all, if this is truly a life and death issue-

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      Yeah.

   3. BMBill Maher15:03

      ... we can't talk about the one thing that, more than anything else, is causing the death? But it is Orwellian. Terms like body positivity.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:11

      Yeah. (laughs)

   5. BMBill Maher15:12

      There is nothing positive health-wise.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      Yeah.

   7. BMBill Maher15:15

      Now, if you think it's beautiful, great. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But science is not.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:22

      No, it's not. And it's... And honestly, it's not even beauty. It's people trying to help-

   9. BMBill Maher15:26

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:26

       ... people's feelings. (clears throat) They're trying to help your feelings.

   11. BMBill Maher15:28

       Yeah. There, there are people, we used to call them chubby chasers.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       Oh, sure.

   13. BMBill Maher15:32

       There are people-

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       Yeah.

   15. BMBill Maher15:33

       ... who actually... And I'm sure there's more than a few. And, and I think it's also... Look, the ideals of beauty change. I mean, back in the, what was it, 17th century, I mean, you can see the paintings, the-

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Sure.

   17. BMBill Maher15:46

       ... especially when people were poorer, it was a sign of status to have fat on you-

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Yeah.

   19. BMBill Maher15:53

       ... because you had food. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       Yeah. More than enough.

   21. BMBill Maher15:57

       Right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       Yeah.

   23. BMBill Maher15:58

       So it does change, and it just... It's also can be a cultural thing. Uh, it's also maybe when you grew up. I mean, when I was first masturbating, uh, it was the era of Twiggy, you know, the first waif model.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       Mm-hmm.

   25. BMBill Maher16:13

       And thin was in. Uh, to me, like, the pie wagons of the '50s, like Marilyn Monroe, those, those hippie girls, like the ones on Mad Men-

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       Mm-hmm.

   27. BMBill Maher16:24

       ... you know, the big redhead on Mad, that was like, ugh, that's my father's era.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:29

       (laughs)

   29. BMBill Maher16:29

       That, that's, ugh. I c- I couldn't raise an erection with a derrick looking at those girls. I liked it, and I kept that my whole life. You know, I liked that. I liked tight and, you know, what they called hard bodies in the '80s.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       Mm-hmm.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

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   1. BMBill Maher30:00

      proposition. Not many people make it." Uh, I was embarrassed to even tell people, you know? "What do you do?" "Oh, I'm trying to be a comedian." "Okay. Ha ha, that's funny." Um, and I lived in a shit box, and, uh, d- I didn't have any girlfriends, and I had no money, and-

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:18

      Yeah.

   3. BMBill Maher30:18

      ... I was depressed for a very good reason, no respect. I had nothing that makes people happy.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:25

      Right.

   5. BMBill Maher30:25

      When I got more of those things, I got happier.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:27

      (laughs)

   7. BMBill Maher30:28

      (laughs) That's normal, okay? That's different than the person who has lots of great things. I mean, you read about this-

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:35

      Right.

   9. BMBill Maher30:35

      ... all the time among the show business community.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       Mm-hmm.

   11. BMBill Maher30:38

       And people, I'm sure, all the time say that, "Why is this guy depressed? He must be on top of the world."

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Right.

   13. BMBill Maher30:44

       And-... you know? And no, he had to quit the tour because of mental health issues. He was depri- depressed? People are lining up to see him in fucking arenas?

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       Yeah.

   15. BMBill Maher30:55

       And he's depressed? And it's... Yeah. Because that doesn't solve the problem when it's a chemical problem.

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       Yeah. And I think also for some people, they worship this idea of success as being the thing that's gonna get them out of it, that that's gonna make them happy. And then they get success and then they get accustomed to that success, and they're still not happy. And then they get-

   17. BMBill Maher31:15

       Right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       ... really depressed. Like, "Oh my God, I'm at the top and it sucks."

   19. BMBill Maher31:20

       Right. I mean, if that still doesn't fill the hole in your heart-

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:23

       Right.

   21. BMBill Maher31:23

       ... then where do you go? You got nothing else.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:26

       Yeah, I always wonder. I mean, I think these things vary very widely. And I think, I always wonder like, "What is their life like? What are their friends like? What's their family like? What is, what, what do they do for activities? What are they eating? Are they sleeping well?"

   23. BMBill Maher31:39

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:39

       What are... You know, like are they doing anything to mitigate it, to put themselves on a path, you know, that gives them some sort of a, a feeling of accomplishment in life, a feeling of like... And I'm not even, and I don't mean accomplishment in terms of like material possessions, but like you're doing something.

   25. BMBill Maher31:55

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:55

       You're getting something done.

   27. BMBill Maher31:56

       A reason to get up in the morning.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:58

       Yeah. Something that you really enjoy and gives you joy and it gives you happiness and satisfaction. There's a lot of people out there that don't have that. You know, like you said, we're really lucky that we, we-

   29. BMBill Maher32:09

       Yes.

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:09

       ... have jobs that we enjoy. We love what we do. We, we have like-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

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   1. BMBill Maher45:00

      me, but I'm allowed my opinion. If, if, if I was 100 billion percent convinced I was born in the wrong body, I still wouldn't do anything to my body because medical considerations come first. The, the idea that you can just take some sort of puberty blockers or, or just snap on, snap off organs-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:25

      Yeah.

   3. BMBill Maher45:26

      ... without really hurting myself medically and taking years off my life-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:32

      Right.

   5. BMBill Maher45:32

      ... is ridiculous. And so I would somehow make it work with whate- with the equipment I was born with, because we're just not that advanced medically to make it work and still be healthy.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:44

      Yeah, but the woke perspective is this... They're, they have these terms like gender-affirming care, and it sounds so wonderful.

   7. BMBill Maher45:52

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:52

      Gender-affirming care sounds like-

   9. BMBill Maher45:53

      Like body positivity.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:54

       It sounds like somebody hugging you.

   11. BMBill Maher45:55

       Yes, it's Orwellian.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       Someones helping you. They're gender, they're affirming your gender, they care about you, they're hugging you.

   13. BMBill Maher46:00

       This is what-

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       It sounds good, but-

   15. BMBill Maher46:01

       This is what Orwell said, "When you, when you control the language-

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       Yes.

   17. BMBill Maher46:06

       ... you control the ideas."

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       Yes. It's fascinating.

   19. BMBill Maher46:09

       You call it, you call it body positivity, you call it gender-affirming care-

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       Yeah.

   21. BMBill Maher46:12

       ... and the ideas follow, or the w- what people think are ideas.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:16

       How much heat did you take for the dick saw joke?

   23. BMBill Maher46:19

       Oh, a lot.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:19

       (laughs)

   25. BMBill Maher46:19

       I mean, that, that whole, that whole editorial was basically calling into question, uh, basically what you were saying.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:26

       Yes.

   27. BMBill Maher46:26

       And w- I mean, the point that I found people had a hard time arguing with was, if this is all real, why is it regional? Why can you go to a dinner party in Los Angeles with, like, 10 people and half of them have trans kids-

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:44

       Right.

   29. BMBill Maher46:44

       ... and that would never happen in Indiana? Now, maybe some people in Indiana are afraid to come out. That could be true too. I'm sure it is, to some degree.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:52

       Sure.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

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   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      and businesses in America. Bezmenov claimed this generation was already contaminated by Marxist-Leninist values. Of course, this claim that many b- baby boomers are somehow e- espousing KGB-tainted ideas is hard to believe, but Bezmenov's larger point addressed why people who have been gradually demoralized are unable to understand that this has happened to them. Referring to touch- such people, Bezmenov said, "They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. If you prove that white is Black and bl- and Black is Black, you still cannot change their basic perception and logic of behavior." Demoralization is a process that is irreversible. Bezmenov actually thought back in '84 that the process of demoralizing America was already completed. It would take another generation and another couple of decades, here we are, to get the people to think differently and return to their patriotic American values, claimed the agent.In what is perhaps the most striking passage in the interview, um, Bezsonov described the state of a demoralized person. "As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who is demoralized is unable to, uh, assess true information."

   2. BMBill Maher1:01:12

      Mm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:01:12

      "The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he has a kick in his fan bottom. When a military boot crashes his balls, then he will understand, but not before that. That's the tragedy of the situation of, of demoralization."

   4. BMBill Maher1:01:35

      I still don't understand how this got from Russia into us.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:01:39

      He explains it in the interview. It's a, it's a long interview.

   6. BMBill Maher1:01:42

      I w- because-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:01:43

      He explains-

   8. BMBill Maher1:01:43

      I mean, I, it-

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:01:44

      ... what they did and how they-

   10. BMBill Maher1:01:45

       It's certainly possible because, I mean, colleges have become so left-wing. I mean, there's no diversity on college campuses.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:01:55

       Yeah, none.

   12. BMBill Maher1:01:56

       Especially the elite schools-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:58

       Right.

   14. BMBill Maher1:01:59

       ... whi- which turn out the people who then control the media.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:02:02

       Yeah.

   16. BMBill Maher1:02:02

       I mean, they're the ones who go into the places, uh, organs of government, organs of media that are most influential in our society.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:02:10

       Yeah.

   18. BMBill Maher1:02:11

       Um, so it's coming from... And, and of course, they teach Marx. Andrew Sullivan wrote a great piece about this about six months ago. They teach... Karl Marx is one of the most taught economists in all, in all these elite colleges. And of course, a lot of what Karl Marx was about would never pass muster with anyone who's woke. He was a horrible racist. He, he, uh, very few of his beliefs, uh, were something that they would countenance today. Same thing with Che Guevara.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:02:48

       Right.

   20. BMBill Maher1:02:48

       Terrible person.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:02:49

       Well, he had the look though.

   22. BMBill Maher1:02:51

       He looks great on a T-shirt.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:02:52

       People have the Che Guevara person- posters and T-shirts.

   24. BMBill Maher1:02:54

       (laughs) T-shirts.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:02:55

       Yeah.

   26. BMBill Maher1:02:56

       They think these people are heroes.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:02:58

       Yeah.

   28. BMBill Maher1:02:58

       Uh, and sadly, like, uh, uh, because colleges turn out nothing but America-hating hysterics these days, ignorant, just ahistorical students, um, who are not taught any of the things I used to be taught of in school, partly because we had the sin of learning what white people did. You know, I mean, I'm sorry, but John Stuart Mill was white. He had some good ideas.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:03:29

       Yeah.

   30. BMBill Maher1:03:29

       But, (laughs) you know, Shakespeare, you know, y- i- it's okay to, you know, you can be anti-racist and still study some great white people, but, you know, some of that is just outré on college campuses these days. But-
6. 1:15:00 – 1:20:00

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   1. BMBill Maher1:15:00

      billion dollars I think for selling their hillbilly hero- heroin to people.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:15:06

      Yeah.

   3. BMBill Maher1:15:06

      Knowing that they were hooking people and they wound up killing hundreds of thousands of people.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:15:11

      At least.

   5. BMBill Maher1:15:11

      So it's not that we don't know that they're capable of this shit.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:15:16

      Right.

   7. BMBill Maher1:15:16

      So for to, to, to throw your lauded... And then for the media to be the basically the, the trumpet of government on this issue. So we didn't have a watchdog on government from what they were telling us. We just had somebody who amplified what they said.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:15:33

      Right.

   9. BMBill Maher1:15:33

      That's extremely dangerous.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:15:35

       Have you read, um, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s book on Fauci?

   11. BMBill Maher1:15:40

       I read his-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:15:42

       The Real Anthony Fauci.

   13. BMBill Maher1:15:43

       I, I think, um, no, I read a book, I think it's the same stuff. It's, I read it before he came on Club Random. It was like a letter to the, I think it was called A Letter to Liberals or something, where he was basically pleading his case, "Listen to me, I'm not a kook." It was all the information about-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:16:02

       Yeah.

   15. BMBill Maher1:16:03

       ... um, you know, how the vaccine did in other countries and stuff. And, m- you know-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:16:08

       Well, the book, it ce- a lot of the book, specifically the beginning of the book cen- it centers on the AIDS crisis.

   17. BMBill Maher1:16:14

       Right. Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:16:15

       And it was, th- and it, it, a horrible, horrible misuse of medicine with the, with AZT and what they did. I mean, AZT was killing people quicker than cancer was. So they stopped using it as a chemotherapy.

   19. BMBill Maher1:16:27

       Yes, I know that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:16:28

       And they, they've never had a chemotherapy that said that you have to stay on. And this was the first one they did. And everybody who took it died, including people that were asymptomatic before they got on it, like Arthur Ash. It's spooky shit, man. Because if it is true and if he is accurate and he's not getting sued for it, it's fucking terrifying that they're willing to do that, to make that kind of money.

   21. BMBill Maher1:16:50

       Uh, yeah. I mean, I don't know about that. I, I do know that he has a lot to answer for, for the Wu- Wuhan-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:16:56

       Yeah.

   23. BMBill Maher1:16:57

       ... lab and the gain of function research.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:16:59

       Yeah.

   25. BMBill Maher1:17:00

       And even if he was well-meaning, um, it was a terrible decision. It's a terrible-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:17:06

       Obama stopped that in 2014. You know, Obama put a halt to that in 2014. He's like, "What the fuck are you guys doing? You guys are making viruses worse."

   27. BMBill Maher1:17:15

       Right. Right. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:17:16

       And, and also-

   29. BMBill Maher1:17:18

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:17:18

       ... you don't have a fucking cure for them.

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