Joe Rogan Experience #2142 - Christopher Dunn

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      All right. Thanks for doing this, sir. I appreciate it.

   3. CDChristopher Dunn0:15

      Oh, you're welcome.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      I've enjoyed many of your videos online, so, uh, I'm fascinated by these theories that you have.

   5. CDChristopher Dunn0:21

      Oh.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      And, uh,-

   7. CDChristopher Dunn0:22

      Well, that's one.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      ... so I'm excited. I'm excited that you're here. Could you please, uh... first of all, could you just tell everybody what your background is? Like, what did, what did you start off doing professionally?

   9. CDChristopher Dunn0:33

      Um, I, I started as a, an apprentice in a engineering company in Manchester, England and, uh, and worked through the apprenticeship, received my journeyman papers. I worked for a couple more years in England, and then I was recruited by an aerospace company in America and, uh, immigrated to America.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       And, uh, what did you do for this aerospace company?

   11. CDChristopher Dunn1:02

       Well, I started out as a, a lathe turner. That was my specialty. So-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       A what?

   13. CDChristopher Dunn1:06

       A lathe turner.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       A lathe turner?

   15. CDChristopher Dunn1:08

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       Yeah.

   17. CDChristopher Dunn1:09

       Right, so I was a lathe hand, right?

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       Mm-hmm.

   19. CDChristopher Dunn1:11

       So I, I operated, you know, horizontal lathes, vertical lathes. Uh, in England, you know, they had what they call them vertical boring mills.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:23

       Mm-hmm.

   21. CDChristopher Dunn1:23

       And, uh, in the, in the States you have to learn a different language, right? They have... the cultural differences-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       Mm-hmm.

   23. CDChristopher Dunn1:29

       ... between... right? So you pick up different, uh, terminologies for things. Like they call, over here they call it a vertical turret lathe. In England, they called it a, a vertical boring mill.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:42

       Mm. And so you're working with machines, and when did you come up with this theory about the pyramid?

   25. CDChristopher Dunn1:53

       Well, actually I'd been in the States for a while. It was, uh, I came over in 1969. And, uh, in 1977, uh, I picked up Peter Tompkins' book, Secrets of the Great Pyramid, and I started to examine, uh, that book. And one of the things that Tompkins... he asked a, a very significant question in that book, and he said, "Does the Great Pyramid enshrine a lost science?" You know, is the Great Pyramid a, uh, a product of that science? Does it reflect that science? And I took that question very seriously, and that question was in, in my mind as, as I read through the book. And then I started to explore, uh, some of the references that he provided in the bibliography, and one of them was the work of William Flinders Petrie. Uh, (clears throat) and, uh, he described, uh, lathes being used, uh, in ancient Egypt. He described very large coring drills, uh, up to 18 inches in diameter. Um, and he also, uh, claimed that they were, they were using circular saws.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:14

       When he's describing this, like, what, what kind of metal would they be using?

   27. CDChristopher Dunn3:18

       Well, that's the thing. Um, the, the question (clears throat) really demands that you explore all methods, uh, that you a- are able to... when you satisfy y- the historical record, say the archeological record, and you say, "Okay, I'm gonna try this. Well, that's not gonna work. Uh, that won't work. So we'll try this. We'll, we'll keep, uh, improving our methods and tools until we arrive at a solution to the art... to explaining the artifact."

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:59

       Mm-hmm.

   29. CDChristopher Dunn3:59

       That, that was the... that's the important thing. That's basically, um, the demands on a manufacturing engineer, which I eventually became. So, you know, if, if a customer comes in and (clears throat) they bring a part, uh, to the company and says, "I want you to make one just like this," uh, what is the... what do we do? Well, we have to know what i- this is. And, uh, but... and to do that, you take measurements, uh, you determine materials, how it was manufactured, uh, you look for tool marks to see what processes may have been involved in it, uh, whether there were dyes, uh, (clears throat) whether there's machining marks in areas, um, you look at the welds. Uh, did they weld some parts? Did they braze other parts? And then, of course, the geometries. Um, and basically, that's your model. That's like saying, "Okay, I've got to make something just like this."

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:00

       Right, but when you're making some... like if you're looking at, say, uh, some of the stonework that was done in the pyramid where there's, uh, uh... not in the pyramid but in some of the quarries where you see these core drill holes-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Wouldn't... With today's technology,…

   1. CDChristopher Dunn15:00

      and you lay it out and you explain in detail how you did it.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      Wouldn't... With today's technology, wouldn't it be really easy to scan it?

   3. CDChristopher Dunn15:07

      Well, it is now. Yeah. Obviously.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      Yeah, yeah. And then they would... Uh, so have they d- done that? Have they definitively proven one way or the other?

   5. CDChristopher Dunn15:16

      There... (sighs) I don't think there is a really high-quality scan that, uh, uh, would be necessary. I mean, I've learned a little bit about scanning. Uh, it was just being introduced into manufacturing, uh, when I retired.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      Mm-hmm.

   7. CDChristopher Dunn15:32

      Just, just before I retired, we, uh, we started to, uh, look into it and we bought this, uh, white light scanning, uh, system and... But th- now, uh-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:44

      The s- the systems now are so advanced.

   9. CDChristopher Dunn15:46

      The systems now a- like light years ahead.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       And you feed it through AI. And you, you would feed it through AI and it would tell you exactly.

   11. CDChristopher Dunn15:51

       Right. Well, you... Yeah. I mean, y- you basically... You would, uh... You could, you could slice it, dice it, examine it any way you wish.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       Mm-hmm.

   13. CDChristopher Dunn15:59

       But you need to have qualified people to do it. Not- not anybody-

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       Right.

   15. CDChristopher Dunn16:05

       ... wi- wi- that's not qualified c- uh, uh, w- could examine that.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       Right. Right. So either way, this, these cores and those drill holes represent something sensational, something absolutely amazing. Some, some 4,500-year-old drill that somehow or another was more effective than drills that are being used today.

   17. CDChristopher Dunn16:30

       Yeah. But you know the, you know the truth of the matter though, Joe?

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       What?

   19. CDChristopher Dunn16:34

       It's probably the... (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:36

       (laughs) I wish you, I wish you could just tell me, and then we'd know.

   21. CDChristopher Dunn16:40

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:41

       There's so many mysteries.

   23. CDChristopher Dunn16:44

       It's probably-

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:46

       (laughs)

   25. CDChristopher Dunn16:46

       (laughs) It's, it's probably the most insignificant artifact I've looked at. (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:49

       I, I'm, I'm sure.

   27. CDChristopher Dunn16:51

       I mean, you know...

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:51

       Well, you... Well, you've looked at so much in Egypt.

   29. CDChristopher Dunn16:53

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:53

       I mean, but to me, it, it's, it-
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Half the thickness of…

   1. CDChristopher Dunn30:00

      Well, uh, about half the thickness of a human hair.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      Half the thickness of a human hair. And one of the s- the vases that's incredibly impressive is this one with a longer neck and a lip on the top, and then it bowls out at the bottom.

   3. CDChristopher Dunn30:16

      Yeah, right.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:16

      And it's, uh, again, all carved out of granite somehow.

   5. CDChristopher Dunn30:20

      Right, right.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:21

      And how? How did... What did they do to do that? Like-

   7. CDChristopher Dunn30:26

      Well, that's the, that's the thing. I think we kind of-

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:28

      See if I... There's, there's some other ones, Jamie. There's one of them that has, like, a longer neck. See if you can find it online maybe.

   9. CDChristopher Dunn30:34

      Yeah, ther- ther- there seems, we seem to be, uh, stuck in a time warp where, uh, we're t- we're trying to come to terms...... with how the pyramids were built-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       Want some coffee?

   11. CDChristopher Dunn30:46

       ... with how all these artifacts were built. And-

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       Want some of this? Here.

   13. CDChristopher Dunn30:51

       Oh, okay. That's a nice posh cup. Can I keep this?

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       Yes, sir. It's all yours. Cheers.

   15. CDChristopher Dunn30:57

       Cheers, mate.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       Thank you for being here.

   17. CDChristopher Dunn30:58

       All right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       So, continue.

   19. CDChristopher Dunn31:00

       Mm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:03

       So we're lost in history.

   21. CDChristopher Dunn31:04

       So, yeah, I mean, so we have competing forces. We've got on one side you have, uh, practical engineers, practical scientists and they want to, they want to measure everything exactly. And regardless of what current theories, uh, prescribe how they were made, they want to explore other methods. However, on the other side, on the side of sci- uh, uh, engin- I mean, not engineers, archeologists or Egyptologists, uh, they, they believe that if you're examining an ancient artifact and you're a modern engineer, that you have to work under the guidance of an archeologist or an Egyptologist. Otherwise your work is not... would not be recognized.

   22. JRJoe Rogan32:09

       That's weird.

   23. CDChristopher Dunn32:10

       And that's ha- and that is happening. I mean, that's a fact. And they admit it. Um, so that is, that is the situ- it's a... I think it's a systemic problem because that is certainly not a, uh, a way to, uh, do science.

   24. JRJoe Rogan32:27

       Well, uh, and also they're not educated in those disciplines, supposedly.

   25. CDChristopher Dunn32:30

       Well, bingo, yes. I mean, absolutely.

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:32

       Yeah, so they wouldn't be able to understand what's required-

   27. CDChristopher Dunn32:35

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:35

       ... to do that. Now, what... the conventional explanation being some sort of copper and sand, if that's the conventional explanation, there's no evidence of any copper drills, correct?

   29. CDChristopher Dunn32:50

       Um, (laughs) if you go to the, um, Cairo Museum, they have a... I think there's a tube that they describe, a small tube, that they describe as a, uh-

   30. JRJoe Rogan33:00

       But nothing that can-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. CDChristopher Dunn45:00

      he, uh, came on the tour and he befriended my son, Alex, and they were talking about the, uh, the vases. And Alex had, uh, was a quality inspector, quality engineer, uh, to the company that I worked at. And since, he, uh, he worked at, uh, another company in Indianapolis, and now I think he's, he's a, working in the metrology lab at, at Rolls-Royce in Indianapolis. And so he's like, "Well, we should (clears throat) scan them or, or do a, do an inspection of them."

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:33

      Mm-hmm.

   3. CDChristopher Dunn45:34

      So Adam brought his vase down to Indianapolis and, uh, to where Alex was working, and, uh, he got permission from the managers at the shop to do an inspection of them. And he seems like, you know, you talk to people, shop people, right, people who are a- actually out there every day making quality parts that people do, people's lives depend on. You know, if you fly on an airplane and you... (laughs) And I, I told one of the ow- there's another owner of vases, he's got a lot of them, and I told him, I s- uh, you know, I said, "You know, you're carrying in your hand an artifact that is more precise than some of the parts that were installed in the engine that was on the plane that you flew in." (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan46:21

      (laughs) That's crazy.

   5. CDChristopher Dunn46:22

      And he's going, and he's like, "Wow. (laughs) Okay." I mean, tha- that's where you bring it home. And so all these guys who are making these artifacts, right? And they're held to exacting standards every day, they can't slip up, they can't make mistakes, you know, there's no fudging or faking anything. Uh, otherwise you'd be out on your ear or people would be falling out the skies, wouldn't you? (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan46:46

      Right.

   7. CDChristopher Dunn46:47

      Right?

   8. JRJoe Rogan46:47

      So that's for those parts, and these artifacts were more precise than that, which is just insane.

   9. CDChristopher Dunn46:52

      Well, not all of them. I mean, there are parts in an a- in an airplane, uh, engine or aircraft engine that are, are more precise. I mean, or features, features of the parts are more-

   10. JRJoe Rogan47:03

       Mm-hmm.

   11. CDChristopher Dunn47:03

       ... more precise. And, and that's where... Uh, and can I, could I, I, I want to explain something here-

   12. JRJoe Rogan47:09

       Sure.

   13. CDChristopher Dunn47:09

       ... because I think it's a very, very important point, and it has confused a lot of people, really confused a lot of people. The, uh, (clears throat) a part, any part that you, you have, you know, whether it's a, something for your car, you know, say a, uh, a crankshaft or something like that, right? You take a crankshaft, it's got, uh, very precise, uh, features on it, and then there are features that are not so precise because it's, th- they don't need to be. It all depends on what the, the customer requirements are. So they don't, they don't build precision or, or, or require precision in a product where it's not needed.

   14. JRJoe Rogan48:03

       Got it.

   15. CDChristopher Dunn48:04

       That's just-

   16. JRJoe Rogan48:04

       Right.

   17. CDChristopher Dunn48:04

       That's just waste of time.

   18. JRJoe Rogan48:05

       Right.

   19. CDChristopher Dunn48:05

       It just makes it more expensive. But now you have, you know, people who are looking at some of these artifacts, uh, like the boxes in the Serapeum, and they're finding, uh, imprecise areas of the boxes. Um, the photograph of me inside one of those boxes with a, with a, uh, toolmaker's precision square, I mean, the- there's nothing, nothing simpler, right? You take a square-

   20. JRJoe Rogan48:39

       Right.

   21. CDChristopher Dunn48:39

       ... you stick it out and you l- you check-

   22. JRJoe Rogan48:41

       Mm-hmm.

   23. CDChristopher Dunn48:41

       ... check to see if the, if it's square. Are the surfaces flat? Is it, is it square? Yeah, that's fine. And now you got guys going around on the outside of the box and finding inaccuracies, uh, some are areas inside boxes that have inaccuracies.... and now they're calling me a liar. They say that I faked and fudged measurements. Right? It's like, uh, I don't know, the cancel culture they want to-

   24. JRJoe Rogan49:11

       So-

   25. CDChristopher Dunn49:11

       ... get away from.

   26. JRJoe Rogan49:12

       W- what is their, their beef? Like, you used a square.

   27. CDChristopher Dunn49:16

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan49:16

       And you measured things and you found them-

   29. CDChristopher Dunn49:18

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan49:18

       ... to be precise.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   Okay, so, so this…

   1. CDChristopher Dunn1:00:00

      did not serve, uh, a practical function.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

      Okay, so, so this is the image that you have here.

   3. CDChristopher Dunn1:00:07

      Right.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      And what this image shows us is the King's Chamber, the, the various shafts, the southern shaft, the northern shaft. And these shafts have been described as portals to stars because people have looked up through there, and you go through the s- shaft, you see stars. But what you're saying is something entirely different.

   5. CDChristopher Dunn1:00:24

      Mm-hmm.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

      What do you think these shafts were for?

   7. CDChristopher Dunn1:00:27

      Well, I think they served two different purposes. Um, (clears throat) actually, four different (laughs) purposes, if you will, because the... in the, uh, the theory that I propose, which is... I don't know, it's a speculation, a theory. It's more... ih-... the whole process is kind of like a heuristic, uh, process where you're grabbing information, you're moving air, you... doesn't matter what, uh, what source you're, you're, you're g-... you're getting it from.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

      Right.

   9. CDChristopher Dunn1:00:59

      Because when you are looking for answers, you know, you look everywhere. You try and find... you know, you look everywhere. So when I was going through the, uh, the process of re-... like, trying to figure it out, I was collecting information from everywhere. The, um... and one of the... you know, uh, for the south... for the southern shaft and the northern shaft of the Queen's Chamber-... that was a huge mystery to me. And, uh, I, and I tried to, to fit it into the... or what were they doing? I mean, if you look at the details, the facts of their design and what the ancient Egyptians were doing, why they designed them that way, you have two conduits coming into a chamber, but they're not connected to the chamber. And, uh, we didn't even know they existed until 1872, uh, for Wayman Dixon-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:01:58

       Can you show me that image again, please?

   11. CDChristopher Dunn1:02:00

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:02:01

       So w- the... they're coming into the chamber, but they don't enter into the chamber, so they stopped-

   13. CDChristopher Dunn1:02:06

       Their, their original, their original design had the m- the sh- the, the shafts ending five inches before coming into the chamber, so you had like m- five inches of limestone that was-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:02:23

       Mm-hmm.

   15. CDChristopher Dunn1:02:24

       ... that was left in the block.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:02:26

       So did someone remove that limestone?

   17. CDChristopher Dunn1:02:28

       Yes. Uh-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:02:29

       Why did they do that?

   19. CDChristopher Dunn1:02:30

       Wayman Dixon, because they were examining the chamber and they were poking around and, uh, Wayman Dixon, it is reported, so the legend goes, uh, noticed a crack in the wall and so he took a rod and pushed it through the crack. And the rod, it didn't meet any resistance, it kept going, so he, um, had his, uh, worker, a worker come in, Bill Grundy with a hammer and chisel-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:03:00

       Ugh.

   21. CDChristopher Dunn1:03:00

       ... and say, "Chisel, chisel the limestone around that."

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:03:03

       God, people are stupid.

   23. CDChristopher Dunn1:03:05

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:03:06

       So-

   25. CDChristopher Dunn1:03:07

       Well, they, they didn't... yeah, they didn't have, uh, ultrasonic thickness checks then.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:03:11

       No, no, but still, goddamn, to have the arrogance-

   27. CDChristopher Dunn1:03:14

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:03:14

       ... to go and chip away at the pyramid because you're curious.

   29. CDChristopher Dunn1:03:15

       Well, you look at, look at how adv- you know, I, I, I don't care for revisionist historians because, you know, you have to consider what people were doing, uh, their mindset i- in the day-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:03:30

       Mm-hmm.
6. 1:15:00 – 1:30:00

   That's great name. …

   1. CDChristopher Dunn1:15:00

      all those shafts, the... both the King's Chamber and the Queen's Chamber. And (clears throat) , oh, actually, no, mostly the King's Chamber. They wanted to ventilate the pyramid, and so they wanted to make sure that the, uh, the shafts were clear and that, um, the... when they install their fans that there won't be any obstruction. And so he built a robot to go through these, clean, clean the shafts out, and the... and then install fans in the Que- in the King's Chamber. But it'd always been a mystery in the, uh, as far as the Queen's Chamber shafts. Where did they end? Uh, (clears throat) nobody knew. Nobody had, had explored them that far. So he proposed that, uh, they allow him to build another robot and examine the, um, the shafts in the Queen's Chamber, which he did that. Uh, he, uh, had a robot. They called it Upuautu, uh-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:15:59

      That's great name.

   3. CDChristopher Dunn1:15:59

      ... which means the opening of the ways.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:16:01

      Oh.

   5. CDChristopher Dunn1:16:02

      Right. And so, uh, with his robot, he had a, um, you know, he, he had a tether behind it and, uh, you know, it was... and ro- uh, a camera, lights, and it crawled its way. It was like a track vehicle, and there was a mechanism for the upper track that caused it to grip the ceiling, and they, uh... it was able to climb up, climb up the shaft. And they were looking for where it ended. And they found where it ended after, you know, a few, uh, kind of obstacles, one being a, uh, what they... what he called a tank trap, which was like a depression in the floor of the shaft-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:16:47

      Mm-hmm.

   7. CDChristopher Dunn1:16:48

      ... of about... a drop of about two inches, uh, which is another story entirely. I don't think... I don't think the, uh, the full truth of why that is there has, has been figured out yet or explained, but they're working on it. And so his, uh, robot went... it got so far up the shaft and they, uh, discovered that it... there was a block, uh, at the end of the shaft, and through the block are two metal fittings.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:17:19

      Metal?

   9. CDChristopher Dunn1:17:20

      Metal.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:17:20

       What kind of metal?

   11. CDChristopher Dunn1:17:21

       Uh, we don't... I don't know.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:17:24

       So a person hasn't gone over there and gotten a sample of it, so we don't really know.

   13. CDChristopher Dunn1:17:27

       Uh-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:17:27

       It's just speculation.

   15. CDChristopher Dunn1:17:28

       I, I, I don't know.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:17:29

       So some kind of metal fittings?

   17. CDChristopher Dunn1:17:31

       I... Th- They assumed that they were copper.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:17:32

       And how far is it from the outside edge of the pyramid?

   19. CDChristopher Dunn1:17:37

       Uh... Well, you do ask some awkward questions. I, I don't have that information in front of me. But I would say that if you are wanting to reach the, uh, the end of the... where that southern shaft is, the, the shortest route that you, you could take would be through a horizontal passage that goes directly out to the outer surface of the great pyramid. Just a horizontal passage.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:18:05

       Okay.

   21. CDChristopher Dunn1:18:06

       Going up, going down, or anything like that.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:18:07

       Can I see the, uh, image again, please? So w- what we're looking at when you're seeing the shafts... hold on one second.

   23. GUGuest1:18:17

       I think we're on the wrong part.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:18:17

       (clears throat) No worries.

   25. GUGuest1:18:20

       Well, this might help actually (sniffs) 'cause it's more helpful with that part, or do you want the whole thing?

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:18:26

       I wanna see what it looks like on the outside. Yeah, that one.

   27. CDChristopher Dunn1:18:29

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:18:30

       So, so say it again. What would be-

   29. CDChristopher Dunn1:18:33

       So-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:18:33

       ... the best way to access it?
7. 1:30:00 – 1:33:33

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:30:00

      the pyramid.

   2. CDChristopher Dunn1:30:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:30:01

      And the, the hydrogen in the queen's chamber now, it makes its way into the king's chamber?

   4. CDChristopher Dunn1:30:11

      Well, yes. I mean it's, uh, it flows up through the gran- the, uh ... along the hor- horizontal passage, through the grand gallery and up into the king's chamber.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:30:21

      So all this is connected.

   6. CDChristopher Dunn1:30:22

      All that's connected.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:30:23

      So the, the hydrogen goes up, it goes in the king's chamber-

   8. CDChristopher Dunn1:30:27

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:30:27

      ... which is a phenomenal structure-

   10. CDChristopher Dunn1:30:29

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:30:29

       ... um, carved out of granite from 500 miles away.

   12. CDChristopher Dunn1:30:34

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:30:34

       Massive stones. The biggest stones in the pyramid, correct?

   14. CDChristopher Dunn1:30:37

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:30:37

       And so what happens with the vibration of the pyramid through this, this thing that's connected to the Earth and subterranean chamber constantly hitting boom, boom, boom, vibrating-

   16. CDChristopher Dunn1:30:50

       Okay.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:30:50

       ... the hydrogen flows into the great chamber, the great, the, the, the, the king's chamber rather, the king's chamber's vibrating and then you have these shafts that come from the outside of the king's chamber into it.

   18. CDChristopher Dunn1:31:00

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:31:00

       So what's happening there?

   20. CDChristopher Dunn1:31:02

       Okay. Uh, well, let's, let's go back to the, uh, sub chamber.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:31:07

       Subterranean.

   22. CDChristopher Dunn1:31:08

       Right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:31:08

       Okay.

   24. CDChristopher Dunn1:31:09

       And, uh, and let's talk about not what happens in the pyramid, but what is happening in the Earth.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:31:16

       Okay.

   26. CDChristopher Dunn1:31:17

       All right? And this is where we introduce Tesla technology and, uh, also the work of a, uh, NASA physicist called Friedemann Freund.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:31:29

       Just keep that thing up there, Joe.

   28. CDChristopher Dunn1:31:31

       So Friedemann Freund has done r- d- did research on earthquake lines and, um, his objective was to try to determine if we could detect or if we could have an early warning system for earthquakes. And he was using NASA satellites to, uh, survey the Earth and to observe for where and when-... earthquake lights, uh, show up. And his, um, his theory - it's not really a theory, it's a scientific, uh, fact - uh, is that in the, uh, in the minerals, in igneous rock, you have these positive charge carriers that when they are stressed, um, they will shoot to the surface. And the positive charge carriers are like, they call 'em holes. Uh, he describes it as a, a new physics, but is kind of related to semiconductor physics, which is a little above my head. But the, uh, but s- but still, he's talking about releasing electrons from deep within the Earth, and those electrons, when they're stimulated to move, they move very, very quickly, uh, through the pyramid. Uh, I mean (laughs) no, through the Earth, and, and they seek the highest point, uh, on the surface of the Earth. So, you have Tesla on one side, and he's saying that if, uh, if you could put a, uh, like, an earthquake machine and just drive, you know, a frequency into the planet, you might be able to release the stresses in the Earth's crust. And also reduce the, uh, possibility of, uh, an earthquake. I'm not- I'm not saying eliminate it entirely, but, uh, at least, uh-

Episode duration: 2:40:13