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Joe Rogan Experience #2152 - Terrence Howard

Terrence Howard is an actor of stage and screen lauded for his work in "Crash," "Iron Man," "Empire," and "Shirley," as well as a musician and researcher in the fields of logic and engineering. www.terryslynchpins.com

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May 18, 20243h 8mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 3:00

    Terrence Howard’s earliest memories: womb awareness and birth recollections

    1. NA

      (instrumental music plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays) How did you get started with all this?

    4. TH

      (sighs) (smacks lips) I didn't come into this world the way everybody else does, I don't think. I used to think that everybody had this similar experience, but ... Like, if I asked you, "What was your first memory in life?" what would it be?

    5. JR

      (exhales) I don't think I know.

    6. TH

      My first memory was (sighs) almost like when you're dreaming and you're falling, and you hit the bottom and you wake up.

    7. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    8. TH

      That was my first memory. But I didn't wake up here. I was inside my mother's womb. And I was about maybe six months inside the womb. And I'm like, "W- okay, don't forget I'm here. Okay, okay. Don't forget. Don't forget. Don't forget. Don't forget." You go to sleep, wake up again. Now something's moving in front of you. And you're like, "Oh, that's my friend," but I had a different name for it. I didn't know it was my hand, but I knew I had a title for it. Go back to sleep, all of those things. Then ultimately, you get ready to come out. I remember all of that, getting com-

    9. JR

      You remember coming out?

    10. TH

      Remember being compressed, you know, in this ... You wanna panic, but there's, you're flooded with, like, some serotonin and dopamine to where you feel relaxed. You go right back to sleep. You remember being born. I remember being circumcised. I remember the whole nine. And the proof of it was when my wife Mira, that you just met, when she was six months pregnant with my son Kieran, I wanted to prove to her what I was talking about. So I put a light on her stomach every day at 6:00 at night. And I would move that light back and forth, and I would put a song on for a week straight. On Saturday, after a week, I didn't put the light there, and I didn't do the music. And he pushed up on her stomach. And then when I put the light there, he started following the light. And for the next two months, we did this every night, and he would go all the way around her belly, back and forth, always pushing on it. You know, I didn't understand at the time that maybe I've interfered with the development process, and maybe he's wrapped the cord around his neck. I shouldn't have done all of this. But he came out wonderful and fine. And this little boy, first thing he wanted to do was see light. He loved lights. From that early stage ... And I can ask him the square root of 2, the square root of 5, the square root of that, the square root of pi, the square ... and he will run it

  2. 3:00 – 6:27

    The “palace” dream and lucid access to knowledge (and patents as proof)

    1. TH

      off, run it off. But he's just like e- uh, his personality is like Forrest Gump, you know (laughs) to where he's just loving and wants everybody to be around him and, and, and care. Um, but for me, that's where it started, in there. And then when I was about five years old, um, I had another dream. And this ... The room filled up with, like, this fluid, a dark fluid. And I could see the ripples of it moving around, and there was a being there. And I remember being walked through that fluid with him, and I was trying to look up at him, and I couldn't turn my head to look at him. And he had his hand straight. I knew his voice, but I did not know who h- who it was, but I felt confident and comfortable. And as we moved along this dark blue fluid path, um, with, like, chartreuse covering the, uh ... You know how when you look into a pool and you see the ripples? And if you're at the bottom of the pool, you'll see the ripples overlapping? That's what it looked like. And then when we got to the end of it, he said to me, "If you could have anything in the world, what would it be?" Now, we were really poor. (clears throat) My dad had just gotten out of prison, you know, for manslaughter. I didn't have much, but I said to him, "I wanna know how everything works." And at that moment, he used his left hand and he opened up the door, and there was this mansion, big brown doors. And inside of it was these crystalline flowers, big crystalline flowers, like a giant, like five feet across. And every time I tried to see his face, he would reach in and hand me another shape. And I was so fascinated with the shapes, because they didn't look like the Platonic solids. They didn't look like anything I'd ever seen before. And he would hand me these shapes, and each shape was different and amazing, and I woke up from that dream. But after that moment, any time something strange would happen in a dream, I had the powers of inception. Anytime something ... I would be naked at school. I would say, "I'm not naked. I must be dreaming." And immediately, I would run out of the school or run out of wherever I was and I would find that mansion again, and I had access to all the knowledge. The proof of it is the 97 patents that I have now. The proof of it is the industries that I've innovated. It's like waking u- having a dream that you have a diamond in your hand, and out of nowhere, you wake up and you're hoping you're holding it, and you try and hold it, and it's gone when you wake up. But the proof is all the stuff that I've been able to do now.

    2. JR

      So these, all these (clears throat) thoughts, these thoughts are from the time you were a baby? These are not things that you've learned?

    3. These are things that you had in your mind from the time you were born.

    4. TH

      From before that time, because I remembered that I had been someplace else before. Now, what's interesting, that voice that I heard, that's my voice now.

    5. JR

      Oh.

  3. 6:27 – 9:46

    Acting as a detour—and a return to science after public hardship

    1. TH

      So it was like my greater self was leading me through and periodically would show up again in other dreams. And I went off and became an actor because my mother wanted my little brother to be an actor and I thought if I became an actor, you know, I would get my mother's affection. It wasn't until my mother was dying and I'm talking to her and she told me the reason that she was babying Antonio was because he had asthma. And my father always had questioned whether it was his son or not because he looked so much like her family and didn't look so much like him. And I realized, "My God, if I had followed my proper course, I could have saved my mother." Because the knowledge that I had, you know, I had the f- the grand unified field equation. I had already put that together and then at, at seven, eight, I was working with these things and then I went through all of the hell that I had to go through; being accused of domestic violence, all of those things. And I thought it was a curse at the time, but it was really removing me from advancing down the wrong path. And during that period of time, I started waking up in my dreams again and I'd start going back into that, that palace. And I remembered all of these things and I started patenting them. As I moved along, I got in touch with, um, Michael Hudak, he was the president of the University of Science and Philosophy, because I was studying, um, a guy named John Keeley, you know, who had worked with frequency back in 1870s, had built the first, um, the first, uh ... What do they call it? Um, self-sustaining engine, um, back in 1872. But he wouldn't tell people how he built it. And I was watching a program which, with Dell Ponds, who was ... and somebody in the audience said, "Doesn't John Keeley's work remind you a lot of Walter Russell?" And a bell went on. And so I got in touch with the University of Science and Philosophy after watching some stuff about Walter Russell. And, and, um, and, uh, Michael Hudak, you know, took me under his wing and started talking to me. But he was more into the philosophy and the love that Walter was talking about. But I- my intention was to rebuild the periodic table, you know, build a new periodic table.'Cause the stuff I had learned in, in college, you know, I went to school for chemical engineering the first year over at Pratt, and they ... At the time, I think it was like 108 elements. And I'd asked, I told the teacher, um, the professor about, um, the relationship between hydrogen on the spectrometer and carbon and silicon and cobalt. And I was like, "It's the same exact color, same tone, just doubled in each octave." And he was like, "No, each element is the same element and it will always be that element." And I was like, "You don't see the relationship." So I left school and I was going to spend 40 years rebuilding the periodic table, and I found out that Walter Russell had already did that, and he did it based upon the natural curvature of everything.

  4. 9:46 – 12:34

    Rebuilding the periodic table: tone, color, and octaves of elements

    1. JR

      And when you say, "Rebuild the periodic table." What do you mean specifically?

    2. TH

      Well, the way the periodic table is laid out, the me- (sighs) the periodic table they have now-

    3. JR

      Let's see a periodic table.

    4. TH

      ... it looks, it looks like a box.

    5. JR

      We'll image of it.

    6. TH

      It looks like a straight box.

    7. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    8. TH

      And they don't show the relationship that between every element, there's ... Between every n- (sighs) there's two no- then-

    9. JR

      All right. Here's the periodic table.

    10. TH

      You'll see hydrogen sitting all the way over there by itself, but they don't show that hydrogen has the same tone as, as carbon.

    11. JR

      What do you mean by tone?

    12. TH

      Same tone. K- same key of E. Same key of E. 40.5 hertz. The next one would be like, um, 81 hertz. You go to silicon, it would double up and would be 162 hertz. You'll go to, to, to cobalt and it'll be 324 hertz. It's, you know, in that base, if you were to take the angles of incidents or the tones that they create, you know, their color, like you can turn color back into sound based upon ... It's the same wavelength, it's just twice as long or much longer. So all you have to do is keep dividing light d- by two.

    13. JR

      Keep that up to me.

    14. TH

      You keep dividing light by two and you'll ultimately get back to the audible sound of it. Because there was a relationship between light and color, sound and tone, matter and shape. I put, um ... I w- I sent over-

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. TH

      ... Walter Russell's-

    17. JR

      I was trying to get to that. That's what-

    18. Mm.

    19. TH

      Yeah. It's, it's Walter Russell's periodic table that he put together. Now you will compare that to what we m- mina- min- menelaoff? Mendeleev's periodic table. You'll compare Walter Russell's to it and you'll see something completely different. It's unwinding.

    20. JR

      Whoa.

    21. TH

      It's unwinding. And you see there's a relationship that hydrogen-

    22. JR

      So you, you had figured this out at a young age?

    23. TH

      I had already seen this. This was i- this was all inside of, this was all inside of that palace. I had access to it, and I knew the relationship-

    24. JR

      So you saw th- this in dreams?

    25. TH

      I saw it as a circle. Everything was a full circle laid out, and each area was just expanding, like wrapping, uh, a rag around your hand. The first wrap, you know, it's so tight. The very first wrap is so tight. That's the first one that Walter Russell did. Yeah. But go back to the, um, the wiggly one.This is how I saw it more so, but as a vortex. But you'll see there's a relationship between hydrogen,

  5. 12:34 – 17:37

    Element “mates,” frequency-based chemistry, and provocative claims about separating water

    1. TH

      carbon, silicone, cobalt, rhodium, they're all bonded, they're all sit be- as the middle point between two noble gases. So those things don't really exist. It's only one substance. Now the problem is, the first thing that we're able to perceive is hydrogen. That's the first visible element, because before it is too dense for us to perceive it. You understand what I'm saying?

    2. NA

      Okay. Okay.

    3. TH

      But as you reach into the next octave, the carbon octave, and they call that the, a bisexual tone, because the carbon has two tones to it, it has a negative side and a positive side, the part where lithium behaves, lithium is a, is contractive, beryllium is contractive, boron is contractive. But the moment you get to carbon, you balance it out. It gets to a perfect balance of plus and minus four, so it's a double tone. Then nitrogen is minus 3.1, minus 3, oxygen is minus 2, fluorine is minus 1. Now the balance of this, all of those are mates. Fluorine and lithium naturally mate. If you have lithium bonded with any other element, the moment that fluorine is introduced, it will break all bonds violently so it can bond with fluorine. Same thing with beryllium and oxygen. That's why it said and what they've tried to keep from us, if you have, you wanna break water into its component parts of hydrogen and oxygen, all you have to do is introduce beryllium or the sound of beryllium and, and oxygen will violently break away from any other thing, even hydrogen to bond with that beryllium. And now you can have, it just, it, with the frequency of it, and since the hydrogen is smaller, hydrogen will... That waveform, you can send that up into one tube, the oxygen into another tube without using electrolysis, without using heat. It was just through frequency and the proof of it, if you go back up just a little bit higher, we know the relationship between sodium and chlorine. They're equal and opposite mates. If you get out of the pool and you got chlorine and you're itching from the chlorine, all you have to do is get some real salt and rub that on your skin and it'll turn right into an oil. It naturally neutralizes each other. So everything has an equal and opposite mate. The, the lithium becomes sodium in the next octave, doubles the same exact tone, just doubled and, and wider. The sodium becomes potassium in the next octave, widens up. The reason that arsenic kills us is because our DNA has nitrogen and it has phosphorus in it 'cause nitrogen unwinds into the next octave right after silicone and becomes phosphorus. Our DNA has both of those in there, but it's going by tone. So the moment arsenic, which sits as a minus three on the next octave, the moment arsenic is introduced, the body thinks that, "Oh, this is my thing that I need," and it tries to wrap itself around the arsenic, but it causes the DNA to unravel because it's four times as large as that nitrogen was. And those other little elements, titanium, vanadium, chromium, manganese, magnesia and, and iron, all of those, those aren't true elements those are isotopes. Those things, those first three are the full tones. They make full spheres, but now it becomes elliptical with titanium, vanadium and chromium and on the other side, it's like when, like I said, if you wrap the rag around your hand, the first wrap really tight, you can't get much out of it. Second wrap, you damn near can't see the difference of a third one, you start, you start seeing hydrogen. The fourth wrap, you see carbon. I need a piece of paper or a rag and I can show you that twist. But in between each one of them by the time you get... Nature does not allow us in the silicone octave for there to expand out, but there is the same titanium, vanadium, chromium, magnesia and iron that exists between aluminum and silicone, but nature doesn't allow us to unravel that. But now with the wave conjugations, we can. We couldn't do that before because we didn't know the angles of incidents that were necessary to open these things up and you couldn't do that with the platonic solids because the platonic solids were averages and approximations.

  6. 17:37 – 27:25

    No straight lines: curvature, electricity vs magnetism, and a critique of Einstein/Newton framing

    1. TH

      They... Like I've said a number of times, you show me a real straight line in nature. If everything in the nature, if everything in the universe, everything is expressed in motion, our motion expressed in waves, all waves were curved. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So the greater the action, the greater the reaction, the greater the reaction, the greater the resistance, the greater the resistance, the greater the curvature. Because the universe is based off of equanimity which Einstein left out in his theory of relativity, the balancing side of the gravity, gravity was caused by electric force. Electricity is always seeking a higher pressure condition. It spins northeast as trying to get to the center of an area, the center of a cone but the next electric wave is coming so it gets pushed out and as it's pushed out, it gets to the vortices and that's some on those pieces, those vortices. Now instead of it spinning northeasterly-... centripetally, it's forced to spin centrifugally and it spins southwesterly. And it expands itself out, it decays, it keeps decaying until you get four magnetic waves that hit each other at 120 degree angles. At that point, they reconvert back into the electric field and then they make their way back to their source again, whether it's the star, whatever star it came into. What happens when we get older? We expand at our equator, right? We get shorter at the top. Why? Because the electric force is pushing in and condensing, and the magnetism expands out at the equator. The, the electron field, the electrons, that's just discharged electricity, devitalized electricity coming from the sun, coming from the earth. It's the waste product from it. But it hits our magnetic field and then it gets pulled right back in and gets compressed again and now it becomes electricity for the earth, and then it pushes itself right back out again at the equator. The equator is five miles wider than the, than the poles. Electricity, Einstein left that out of his equation because he coupled electricity and magnetism together and didn't realize that electricity was the equal and opposite of magnetism. Electricity being the, the, the contractive field. You breathe in, that's a contractive thing. You breathe out, that's, that's a magnetic thing, a radiative thing. But they use the term magnet as an attractor, but to magnify something means to what? Make it larger, increase the space. That's the work of radiation. That's what Walter Russell was talking about all those years. That's the work of radiation. It's the electricity between the things that pull them together. The Coulomb force that supposedly opposites attract and push each other away, if that was true, then hot air and cold air would seek each other out. They're the same substance, but just under a ... but in a different state. One is, they move in opposite directions from each other. Hot water and cold water move in opposite directions from each other. The reason two magnets seem like they're, the North Pole is attracted to the South Pole because if you had two rivers or two holes, two hoses with water coming out of them and you pointed them at each other, what are they gonna do? They're gonna be pushing against each other. But they align to where the male enters the female and is able to come out. So they've been fooled by their senses. They've been fooled by their eyes and, and, and have missed the whole picture of it. Are you familiar with, um, Kahlil Gibran?

    2. JR

      Yes.

    3. TH

      He wrote a book. He wrote The Prophet, you know, in 1923. But he kn- wrote another book called, um, Sand and Foam. In that book, he told a story of a man who had been away from his family for four months working, and he was excited to come home. And as he was coming home, he knew that the mountain, when he saw the mountain, that he would be able to, he was close to home. So his five senses started having a conversation and his eye says, "I see a mountain, I see a mountain, I see a mountain." And so the ears perked out and said, "I don't hear a mountain." The nose sniffed and said, "I don't smell a no- mountain." The, the tongue tasted the air, "I don't taste a mountain." And the f- other four sentence, senses started speaking among themselves and they came to the conclusion that there must be something the matter with the eye, because they couldn't perceive it. But all of these things, we've been misled just because we've been fooled by our senses. Our eyes see .05% of the entire electromagnetic wave. We're blind cosmically, but we judge everything by what we see.

    4. JR

      Mm.

    5. TH

      And they've done that with science for so many years. You look at E equals MC squared, that talks about ex- expansion. It doesn't, it does not show how it's divided. If ev- you've never breathed in twice without breathing out. You breathe in and you breathe out. You charge and you discharge. There's no s- so how is it that the breathing in, they're acting as if the universe is just expanding out, expanding out, breathing out, breathing out, and it's gonna dissipate out, and they never include the contractive side of it breathing in, because they were misled by Newton who said, "Everything moves in a straight line unless affected by something else." And we know that not to be true, but they built the entire two-dimensional plane, the Euclidean space that we live on, that we work on, that we try and define curved nature by two-dimensional space, and we never include the curvature, the breathing in. Like, um, A- Alan Watts said, um, "No one would be attracted to a Euclidean woman because she would just be straight." All straight lines. It's the, it's the wiggliness, it's the curvature that brings the balance. Everything has to have the balance. You know, the, the, the elec- electric side and the magnetic side. I, I can talk about it, but I can show you even better. If you can, um-

    6. JR

      Can I, can I stop you there? This, the, the concept of the periodic table, the way the periodic table conventionally is addressed, did they address these things as being isolated or intertwined?

    7. TH

      ... they interact, but they feel that carbon will always be carbon and it will have its half-life and its, and its... and keep breaking down, but it'll still be carbon. They don't understand that it unwinds and becomes nitrogen. Nitrogen unwinds and becomes oxygen.

    8. JR

      So this, the periodic table that, uh, the conventional use of the periodic table, and what is this other gentleman's name again?

    9. TH

      Walter Russell.

    10. JR

      Walter Russell. Walter Russell's version of the periodic table, how is Walter Russell's version of the periodic table perceived by people who study this?

    11. TH

      Well, now everyone wants to use it. If you can go to my, uh, in my book, there's a, there's a picture of Einstein reading Walter Russell's first book, um, second book, The Universe of One, 'cause when Walter wrote this in 1926, he sent it out to all, to 300 different universities and physicists, and one of the quotes that Walter Russell s- that, um, Einstein says on his deathbed, "I should have spent more time reading Walter Russell's work." That's how. And now they're taking it under their wing, but remember the Michelson-Morley experiment from 1877, 1887. They're, uh, they were trying to prove whether there was an ether or an effect of an ether or the quinteses- the quintessence that everything came from, that used to be called the, The Fifth Element, that everything in, that from antiquity, everyone understood that nothing just, something doesn't come out of nothing. It's like when you look at the air, it looks clear, but you change the pressure condition, the balance of the change of pressure condition, we call that condensation. It creates clouds. And you change the motion conditions, whether it's moving quickly or slowly, it's going to become snow, it's gonna become rain, it's going to become hail. So everything comes down to just one of two forces. Either you're breathing in and filling up something or you're pouring it out, but the scientists, they ignored Walter Russell's work because he didn't include any equa- equations inside of it. He, he talked philosophically regarding how things behave in comparison to laying down and following some Newtonian or calculus writing. You know, he said he based things based on let's explore them naturally,

  7. 27:25 – 31:02

    Flower of Life vs Platonic solids: negative space as the missing geometry

    1. TH

      and that's what I did with my book. Once, what Walter Russell was missing, he didn't have the wave conjugations. He didn't have the, the mirror shapes, the all shapes, and that was because of a mistake that was made 6,000 years ago maybe, they took the flower of life, which was that symbol.

    2. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    3. TH

      Um, if you could go to my book, tcotlc.com, there's an example that I put in there, um, on page 64, and I show the period- I show the element, the fundamentals. If you could possibly pull that up, Jamey.

    4. JR

      What was that .com again? TCLTC?

    5. TH

      It's tcotlc.com. You'll see in there the mistake that they made because they believed in straight lines, because the church was promoting the idea of straight lines. Yeah, just tap on right below there.

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. TH

      There's, yep. Download. No, just go to the center of the page and right above that, and you see initial public draft, just tap on it, and if you go to page 64, on the right side of the page, right there, on the left side of the page, you'll see the five platonic solids. Now these, all of our axioms, all of our postulates have been built off of these things. This is what Euclid went down to, to Egypt and pulled these things together. Pythagoras worked on 'em. And these were the undisputed fundamentals of God that he used to build. If you tap onto the flower of life platonic solids things, it's gonna take you to a video. Turn it, uh, you don't have to turn it, but it'll show you the flower of life that they took this from, but you'll see that instead of following the natural curvature of these 64 circles overlapping, they averaged the space where they, where they met and they invented straight lines.

    8. JR

      Hmm.

    9. TH

      They in-

    10. JR

      Why did they do that?

    11. TH

      Because they believed that the world was flat. They believed the world was flat at the time and the church promoted, Pythagorean theorem comes off of this cube, A squared plus B squared equals C squared.

    12. JR

      So they wanted to use all of these intertwining circles and create straight lines?

    13. TH

      Because that's how they thought everything came down to straight lines. They thought the world was flat, and I was like, "Oh my goodness." They didn't open the flower properly. So the next one will be the icosahedron.

    14. JR

      Now the flower of life, it's, it's very, very old. The concept is very old. What, what was the origin of the concept?

    15. TH

      It's the oldest symbol known to mankind. I, it's believed that it was Enki, the brother of Enlil, if you go by the Emerald Tablets.

    16. JR

      Sumerian text.

    17. TH

      Yeah, the Sumerian text, that was the one that created mankind 'cause if you look at mankind, and there's a point I wanna make with it, I want you to stay on the book, go back to page, go to 134 on the book, and this is what that o- other gentleman being told me to do. He said, "Why don't you just take the pieces that make up the flower and put them together based on universal ratios?"So, if you once you're able to pull it up.

    18. NA

      164?

    19. TH

      Page 134.

    20. NA

      134.

  8. 31:02 – 38:40

    Bubble-intersection structures: tetraon, photon-like forms, crystallization, and “final state” matter

    1. TH

      134 in the book. So this is the juxtapose of the mistake they made. Yep, just tap right on to that. Yep, just tap on it. Uh... Now, this was made by David Johnson, one of our programmers, Argos Fuel. So if you go to the far left and tap on that, this is... I took four of those triangles and wow, and you can scroll around. This is what happens when four bubbles meet. This is the negative space where they can't touch each other. This is hydrogen, and as I was saying, electricity is always trying to get to the center of that triangle, but it gets pushed out. And now you see it has four contractive poles, which is the electric poles. Just go around it from like a, a horizontally, yeah. It has four contractive poles because electricity is seeking a higher pressure condition and forcing it in, where magnetism is seeking a lower pressure condition and spun out. So the vortices, those tips, that's the magnetic field, that's where they begin. But it has an equal attractor and an equal amount of repulsion. So if you go to what happens when eight bubbles meet, they gave me the patents to that. I call it that the tetraon. This is-

    2. NA

      So this is the negative space in between eight bubbles?

    3. TH

      Eight bubbles. This is a negative space where eight bubbles meet and you can scroll around.

    4. NA

      And this is ignored when they're concentrating on straight lines?

    5. TH

      Completely. Because this... And if you look from the top, I haven't violated anything. It fits perfectly inside of there. But this is a negative space where eight bubbles meet, but you'll notice it has eight contractive poles, but it only has six magnetic poles, six vortices. So it has a greater electrical potential than a repulsion. So maybe this is the strong nuclear force, and the previous one was the weak nuclear force. So I was like, okay, I called this the Hunton after my son. So I was like, what happens when six bubbles meet? If you'll go to the one right in the center. Now you see that it has these huge bubbles, fast moving, but there's six strong spheres that's going around this, but the greater attractor has grabbed the two weaker attractors. And this looks just like a photon. And guess what? It has 30 poles. What is the speed of light? 299... 299,752,400 something. They round it off to 300... 300,000,000 kilometers per second squared. But if you look at it from the top, you'll see that I haven't violated anything. This looks like what happens in nature. So I was like, okay, so they gave me the patents to this, but you'll see that there's six unaccounted electrical poles to it. So I was like, what happens when 12 bubbles meet if you go to the one right next to it? Another stable structure that we basically see in nature, but there's four unaccounted electrical poles to it. Four spin around it. You can count those four. You'll see one at the bottom and three on those sides. This is the basis of crystallization, the laws of crystallization that forms. And you can go to the last one. I was like, what happens when 24 bubbles meet? This is a negative space if you pull to a horizontal on it. This is a negative space where 24 bubbles meet. This is where you cannot distinguish this from the background because all of the electrical potential has been accounted for. This would be the Bose-Einstein condensate where, where something is... becomes indistinguishable from the fabric of space itself, the final state of matter. Something... And the proof of this, the platonic solids, they have a thing called discrete symmetry. You can put the cubes together, maybe you can put the dodecahedrons together, but you can't put all of them together. But you can take the wave conjugations right here and they form super symmetrical systems where everything aligns. So there's a, a site that, that James sent over to you and you'll... This will be the final thing and then I'll, I'll be quiet for a second.

    6. NA

      (laughs)

    7. TH

      But, uh, because this is the final... This right here, now these are sculpt... other sculptures I've built. There's a, a video, um, and you'll see that flower, you'll... If you'll pop it up from Terry's linchpins that, that he sent you. You'll see... And that this was one of four super symmetrical systems that I patented. And the reason I patented it was because when Walter Russell put his stuff up... Yep, just go down a little bit and we're going to get to grav... Not that one. We're going to get to gravity in a second. Not that one. We're not even there yet. There. Te- tetraterian wave conjugations. Now these are all of those systems put together. This is the... where 12 bubbles meet, the Aubreans.

    8. NA

      Mm-hmm.

    9. TH

      And then I put five of them together and they make these natural starfish. But then when I put 10 of them together, they lay themselves out and they predict all distribution of matter within the electric field. And you can see where six bubbles meet on the... as you get to a higher point on it, those where six bubbles are meeting, still fitting perfectly where the 12 bubbles are meeting and where the s- where the four and where the eight... That's a super symmetrical system. I put-... 12 of ... If I put 20 of those where six bubbles meet, the Antonians, they make a natural dodecahedron that's naturally curved. If I take where the 12 bubbles meet, that's where I made the linchpin from, ultimately from some of those pieces you got right there, that all shape of it. So that was one of the first things. But when Walter Russell came out with his book and he introduced his periodic table, he watched as different people went up and collected Nobel Prizes for deuterium, for tritium, for all these things that he had discovered. And I was like, "Okay. Let me wait until the patents are granted before I'll talk about it-

    10. JR

      Hmm.

    11. TH

      ... so that they won't be able to stop it." But what makes more sense? Where they invented straight lines in opening the flower or where you actually take the individual pieces of the flower and put it together based on universal ratios? Which one do you think is how the givers of that knowledge intended for us to use it?

    12. JR

      Well, it makes sense because you're accounting for the negative space and the straight lines are not.

    13. TH

      Bingo.

    14. JR

      Yeah. That it must be something. And so ... And then these, these are all physical representations that you've created?

    15. TH

      Yep.

    16. JR

      That are all, all the, of those things?

    17. TH

      Same things. That's the aubriin right there.

    18. JR

      How was this received? Like when you-

    19. TH

      Oh.

    20. JR

      ... you talk to people about this?

    21. TH

      Oh, man. They, they first l- ... Because I didn't show them, I hadn't shown them. I introduced it with, "Let's talk about our fundamentals are a little bit off. There are no straight lines."

    22. JR

      Right.

  9. 38:40 – 50:39

    Reception and conflict: Neil deGrasse Tyson, ‘1×1=2,’ and hostility to alternative frameworks

    1. TH

      So I reached out to Neil Degrasse Tyson, Neil Degrasse Tyson. I'd saw him at an event, um, uh, upfront, you know, at Fox. And he was like, "Hey, man. Yeah, I'd love for you to come on my show, do my radio, do my TV thing. I would love that." I was like, "Yeah, but let me ... I've got something I wanna introduce to you." Um, and it was only 36 pages. It was a treatise. And I told him it was controversial, and I sent him over that, the 36-page thing that had the wave conjugations in it. But I started it off with one times one equaling two. And he went in on my treatise, wrote red-lined everything you a- a- attacked that I had immediate ... That I talked about Walter Russell and Victor Shawberger and John Keeley as, and Tesla as the people that I looked up to.

    2. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    3. TH

      He attacked them. But then he started attacking, you know, the one times one equaling two.

    4. JR

      How did he attack them?

    5. TH

      Oh, he was, he was ... 'Cause I asked him, I said, eh, I said, "Under what conditions?" I said, "It's illogical where the square root of num- of a number added to itself would equal more than that number squared." But that's what happens with the square root of two, that's what happens with most of the numbers. I was like, "How is it that multiplication, if it means to make more and increase in number, how is one times one equaling one part of the multiplication table?" Now, I understand that if, if you're seeing it one time-

    6. JR

      Right.

    7. TH

      ... th- but we call that once. But the moment that you add that, add the times in there, that multiplicative indicator, that means there's more than one. So now each equation is supposed to be balanced, you know? That equal sign is supposed to show that there's a balance between these two numbers over here and a balance on this one over here. What happened to the other one in this equation? It does not ... It didn't equate. And then I took the square root of that number, I took the square root of two. 'Cause all this started in third grade. I was arguing with my teacher because we're talking about the square root of 100. Oh my god. All th-

    8. JR

      Is that your phone?

    9. TH

      Yeah, that's my, um, detox thing. I'm supposed to detox right now. (laughs)

    10. JR

      (laughs) How do you, how do you detox? Detox on a timer? What do you do?

    11. TH

      (laughs) There's, uh ... My wife got me these things, you know, because supposed to take this.

    12. JR

      What is that?

    13. TH

      And ... (laughs)

    14. JR

      Pure body extract?

    15. TH

      And, um, there's another one here.

    16. JR

      Advance daily cellular detox. What's in this? Oh, oh boy. Gotta get out my reading glasses.

    17. TH

      And this too. (laughs)

    18. JR

      What's in this stuff?

    19. TH

      Just things to counteract the natural met- the metals that we have in our bodies that, that wear us out. (laughs)

    20. JR

      And you just take these periodically-

    21. TH

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      ... throughout the day on timer?

    23. TH

      Yeah. I gotta, I gotta do it now. I gotta do it now.

    24. JR

      Okay.

    25. TH

      I take a dropper, part of that dropper, and then four sprays, and it, it removes the parasites from your system like oil of oregano, like using oil of oregano instead of using, um, u- antibiotics.

    26. JR

      And have you felt an effect?

    27. TH

      Yes.

    28. JR

      Yeah? What do you feel when you take the stuff?

    29. TH

      Well, I used to have really thick, dark circles under my eyes. That's gone away in the last six months I've been using that. My skin, I'm 55 years old. I'm 55 years old and I smoke. Do I look like I'm 55 years old?

    30. JR

      No, you don't. You look great. And do you think that's because of this?

  10. 50:39 – 59:54

    Cosmology reframe: planetary drift, universe age, and speculation about asteroid belt origins

    1. TH

      ... astrophysicist, but Walter Russell talked about that the earth... Walter Russell talked about the fact that the sun gave birth to the earth, that it didn't coalesce from some field, and the proof of this... Do you guys know that the earth is drifting away from the sun?

    2. JR

      Yeah, slightly.

    3. TH

      At, at w- This is a mistake I made at, at the Oxford, uh, they, 'cause they wouldn't allow me to bring my notes or anything.

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. TH

      So I said the drift wa- the drift was six inches a year. It's .6 inches a year.

    6. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    7. TH

      So if you add up how long it would take the earth to move 'cause ... And all of the planets in every solar system is drifting away from their primary at this same exact rate, like one point- 1.5 centimeters. So this is a universal expansion that's happening with everything moving away, so them saying the ... and the Webb Telescope had proven that those galaxies couldn't have formed-

    8. JR

      Right.

    9. TH

      ... 13, 14 billion years ago. But if you would just add up linearly how long it would take the earth to go from the sun to 93 million miles away, it's nine trillion ... Hold on.

    10. JR

      Let's go.

    11. TH

      I, I put ... I did all of the little calculations.

    12. JR

      These are not little calculations. (laughs)

    13. TH

      (laughs) Hold on. Done. Get outta here.

    14. JR

      I love that expression, but-

    15. TH

      It ... Little... Well, man, don't turn my phone off. Don't do that.

    16. JR

      All right.

    17. TH

      Every time I get ready ... Well, 'cause I know they're watching me right now, and they're mad at me.

    18. JR

      Who's "they"?

    19. TH

      Um, the people that want, that ... Our entire world economy is based off of the politicians and the authorities that give the politicians their accreditation, and those authorities, those universities are all based ... Their, their entire curriculum is based off the platonic solids, and our world economy is based off of one times one equaling one.

    20. JR

      And you s- you think they fuck with your phone?

    21. TH

      Oh, I'm sure of it 'cause now I couldn't even ... I have to turn it off for a second.

    22. JR

      Do you ever drop your phone?

    23. TH

      Hmm? Oh.

    24. JR

      You ever drop your phone?

    25. TH

      I've dropped my phone a number of times, but-

    26. JR

      You ever think that that might be what's going on with your phone? (laughs)

    27. TH

      And then I buy another phone-

    28. JR

      (laughs)

    29. TH

      ... and the same thing-

    30. JR

      Same thing happens. (laughs)

  11. 59:54 – 1:36:22

    Rebuilding Saturn without gravity: linchpin vortex simulation and hexagon validation

    1. TH

      Well, what my team did, Chris Seeley, who's my, um, he's (laughs) , he's, he's my Scotty. We, we use the same simulator that they use at Princeton and we took linchpins and we haven't even introduced linchpins yet, but it'll be a great introduction for it. We took linchpins, this configuration of where, um, where six pentagons meet and we put them in particular order. They're at the... There's a link for that right inside of the thing that, that James, James Pellegrini s- sent over to, to you. If you'll pull that up. And we rebuilt the planet Saturn without gravity and it has the rings with no animation. It has the rings and the hexagon that's observed at the-

    2. JR

      Mm.

    3. TH

      ... very top of it without dark matter, without dark energy, without gravity, showing that it's an outward, inward, outward force pushing down that creates the planet. If you can pull that up and he explains it out, it's, like, three minutes long.

    4. JR

      And where does the matter come from?

    5. TH

      He used... Well, the matter, remember that's condensation.

    6. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    7. TH

      If you were to picture before we watch it-

    8. JR

      So this is it?

    9. TH

      Yeah. Before we watch it, let, let me explain something. If you were to picture the waves at the ocean...... you know, the darker the waves, the deeper the water. Y- you can't see a distinguishing fact between them until they crash into each other. That splatter, that, that little foam that comes out-

    10. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    11. TH

      ... it lasts for a couple seconds and then it settles back on there, and it's just the balance between this force and this force.

    12. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    13. TH

      That's the physical universe. Those few seconds that it takes that matter, that more dense water and the foam to re-coalesce and get balanced again with the surrounding environment, that's the entire time that our universe, or all these universes, have worked together. But if you play this ... This is at the very beginning of my book. That's why I went on that, that, at the Emmys, and I was like, "Look, I've got a whole ... got something else to do. I've been able to rebuild Saturn without gravity, with no animation." And then they clowned it.

    14. JR

      (laughs) Of course they did.

    15. TH

      They clowned it.

    16. JR

      Well, this is not something that you could say in a sound bite, which is one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to you. This is not something ... Like y- your explanation of these things and your description of the very nature of reality itself is not something that should be taken lightly.

    17. TH

      No.

    18. JR

      It's something that, like-

    19. TH

      Thank you for saying that.

    20. JR

      It needs to, uh, th- It needs to be laid out, and it needs to be slowly examined in every s- 'Cause you've obviously spent a lot of time working on this. This thing here.

    21. TH

      Play it.

    22. JR

      So play this, Jamie. Okay. Well, there's-

    23. TH

      And this is us-

    24. JR

      What, Jamie?

    25. Uh, just to clarify what I'm gonna play-

    26. TH

      Yeah, and turn it up.

    27. JR

      ... but there's two ... Hold on, hold on.

    28. Yeah, you're-

    29. There's two different videos. One's long, one's short.

    30. TH

      No, y- this is gonna be the short one.

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