Joe Rogan Experience #2152 - Terrence Howard

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   1. NANarrator0:00

      (instrumental music plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays) How did you get started with all this?

   4. THTerrence Howard0:17

      (sighs) (smacks lips) I didn't come into this world the way everybody else does, I don't think. I used to think that everybody had this similar experience, but ... Like, if I asked you, "What was your first memory in life?" what would it be?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:34

      (exhales) I don't think I know.

   6. THTerrence Howard0:37

      My first memory was (sighs) almost like when you're dreaming and you're falling, and you hit the bottom and you wake up.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:46

      Mm-hmm.

   8. THTerrence Howard0:47

      That was my first memory. But I didn't wake up here. I was inside my mother's womb. And I was about maybe six months inside the womb. And I'm like, "W- okay, don't forget I'm here. Okay, okay. Don't forget. Don't forget. Don't forget. Don't forget." You go to sleep, wake up again. Now something's moving in front of you. And you're like, "Oh, that's my friend," but I had a different name for it. I didn't know it was my hand, but I knew I had a title for it. Go back to sleep, all of those things. Then ultimately, you get ready to come out. I remember all of that, getting com-

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:28

      You remember coming out?

   10. THTerrence Howard1:30

       Remember being compressed, you know, in this ... You wanna panic, but there's, you're flooded with, like, some serotonin and dopamine to where you feel relaxed. You go right back to sleep. You remember being born. I remember being circumcised. I remember the whole nine. And the proof of it was when my wife Mira, that you just met, when she was six months pregnant with my son Kieran, I wanted to prove to her what I was talking about. So I put a light on her stomach every day at 6:00 at night. And I would move that light back and forth, and I would put a song on for a week straight. On Saturday, after a week, I didn't put the light there, and I didn't do the music. And he pushed up on her stomach. And then when I put the light there, he started following the light. And for the next two months, we did this every night, and he would go all the way around her belly, back and forth, always pushing on it. You know, I didn't understand at the time that maybe I've interfered with the development process, and maybe he's wrapped the cord around his neck. I shouldn't have done all of this. But he came out wonderful and fine. And this little boy, first thing he wanted to do was see light. He loved lights. From that early stage ... And I can ask him the square root of 2, the square root of 5, the square root of that, the square root of pi, the square ... and he will run it off, run it off. But he's just like e- uh, his personality is like Forrest Gump, you know (laughs) to where he's just loving and wants everybody to be around him and, and, and care. Um, but for me, that's where it started, in there. And then when I was about five years old, um, I had another dream. And this ... The room filled up with, like, this fluid, a dark fluid. And I could see the ripples of it moving around, and there was a being there. And I remember being walked through that fluid with him, and I was trying to look up at him, and I couldn't turn my head to look at him. And he had his hand straight. I knew his voice, but I did not know who h- who it was, but I felt confident and comfortable. And as we moved along this dark blue fluid path, um, with, like, chartreuse covering the, uh ... You know how when you look into a pool and you see the ripples? And if you're at the bottom of the pool, you'll see the ripples overlapping? That's what it looked like. And then when we got to the end of it, he said to me, "If you could have anything in the world, what would it be?" Now, we were really poor. (clears throat) My dad had just gotten out of prison, you know, for manslaughter. I didn't have much, but I said to him, "I wanna know how everything works." And at that moment, he used his left hand and he opened up the door, and there was this mansion, big brown doors. And inside of it was these crystalline flowers, big crystalline flowers, like a giant, like five feet across. And every time I tried to see his face, he would reach in and hand me another shape. And I was so fascinated with the shapes, because they didn't look like the Platonic solids. They didn't look like anything I'd ever seen before. And he would hand me these shapes, and each shape was different and amazing, and I woke up from that dream. But after that moment, any time something strange would happen in a dream, I had the powers of inception. Anytime something ... I would be naked at school. I would say, "I'm not naked. I must be dreaming." And immediately, I would run out of the school or run out of wherever I was and I would find that mansion again, and I had access to all the knowledge. The proof of it is the 97 patents that I have now. The proof of it is the industries that I've innovated. It's like waking u- having a dream that you have a diamond in your hand, and out of nowhere, you wake up and you're hoping you're holding it, and you try and hold it, and it's gone when you wake up. But the proof is all the stuff that I've been able to do now.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:59

       So these, all these (clears throat) thoughts, these thoughts are from the time you were a baby? These are not things that you've learned?

   12. These are things that you had in your mind from the time you were born.

   13. THTerrence Howard6:12

       From before that time, because I remembered that I had been someplace else before. Now, what's interesting, that voice that I heard, that's my voice now.

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:27

       Oh.

   15. THTerrence Howard6:27

       So it was like my greater self was leading me through and periodically would show up again in other dreams. And I went off and became an actor because my mother wanted my little brother to be an actor and I thought if I became an actor, you know, I would get my mother's affection. It wasn't until my mother was dying and I'm talking to her and she told me the reason that she was babying Antonio was because he had asthma. And my father always had questioned whether it was his son or not because he looked so much like her family and didn't look so much like him. And I realized, "My God, if I had followed my proper course, I could have saved my mother." Because the knowledge that I had, you know, I had the f- the grand unified field equation. I had already put that together and then at, at seven, eight, I was working with these things and then I went through all of the hell that I had to go through; being accused of domestic violence, all of those things. And I thought it was a curse at the time, but it was really removing me from advancing down the wrong path. And during that period of time, I started waking up in my dreams again and I'd start going back into that, that palace. And I remembered all of these things and I started patenting them. As I moved along, I got in touch with, um, Michael Hudak, he was the president of the University of Science and Philosophy, because I was studying, um, a guy named John Keeley, you know, who had worked with frequency back in 1870s, had built the first, um, the first, uh ... What do they call it? Um, self-sustaining engine, um, back in 1872. But he wouldn't tell people how he built it. And I was watching a program which, with Dell Ponds, who was ... and somebody in the audience said, "Doesn't John Keeley's work remind you a lot of Walter Russell?" And a bell went on. And so I got in touch with the University of Science and Philosophy after watching some stuff about Walter Russell. And, and, um, and, uh, Michael Hudak, you know, took me under his wing and started talking to me. But he was more into the philosophy and the love that Walter was talking about. But I- my intention was to rebuild the periodic table, you know, build a new periodic table.'Cause the stuff I had learned in, in college, you know, I went to school for chemical engineering the first year over at Pratt, and they ... At the time, I think it was like 108 elements. And I'd asked, I told the teacher, um, the professor about, um, the relationship between hydrogen on the spectrometer and carbon and silicon and cobalt. And I was like, "It's the same exact color, same tone, just doubled in each octave." And he was like, "No, each element is the same element and it will always be that element." And I was like, "You don't see the relationship." So I left school and I was going to spend 40 years rebuilding the periodic table, and I found out that Walter Russell had already did that, and he did it based upon the natural curvature of everything.

   16. JRJoe Rogan9:46

       And when you say, "Rebuild the periodic table." What do you mean specifically?

   17. THTerrence Howard9:50

       Well, the way the periodic table is laid out, the me- (sighs) the periodic table they have now-

   18. JRJoe Rogan9:56

       Let's see a periodic table.

   19. THTerrence Howard9:56

       ... it looks, it looks like a box.

   20. JRJoe Rogan9:58

       We'll image of it.

   21. THTerrence Howard9:58

       It looks like a straight box.

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:00

       Mm-hmm.

   23. THTerrence Howard10:01

       And they don't show the relationship that between every element, there's ... Between every n- (sighs) there's two no- then-

   24. JRJoe Rogan10:09

       All right. Here's the periodic table.

   25. THTerrence Howard10:13

       You'll see hydrogen sitting all the way over there by itself, but they don't show that hydrogen has the same tone as, as carbon.

   26. JRJoe Rogan10:21

       What do you mean by tone?

   27. THTerrence Howard10:22

       Same tone. K- same key of E. Same key of E. 40.5 hertz. The next one would be like, um, 81 hertz. You go to silicon, it would double up and would be 162 hertz. You'll go to, to, to cobalt and it'll be 324 hertz. It's, you know, in that base, if you were to take the angles of incidents or the tones that they create, you know, their color, like you can turn color back into sound based upon ... It's the same wavelength, it's just twice as long or much longer. So all you have to do is keep dividing light d- by two.

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:03

       Keep that up to me.

   29. THTerrence Howard11:04

       You keep dividing light by two and you'll ultimately get back to the audible sound of it. Because there was a relationship between light and color, sound and tone, matter and shape. I put, um ... I w- I sent over-

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:18

       Yeah.
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   Yes. …

   1. THTerrence Howard15:00

      and you're itching from the chlorine, all you have to do is get some real salt and rub that on your skin and it'll turn right into an oil. It naturally neutralizes each other. So everything has an equal and opposite mate. The, the lithium becomes sodium in the next octave, doubles the same exact tone, just doubled and, and wider. The sodium becomes potassium in the next octave, widens up. The reason that arsenic kills us is because our DNA has nitrogen and it has phosphorus in it 'cause nitrogen unwinds into the next octave right after silicone and becomes phosphorus. Our DNA has both of those in there, but it's going by tone. So the moment arsenic, which sits as a minus three on the next octave, the moment arsenic is introduced, the body thinks that, "Oh, this is my thing that I need," and it tries to wrap itself around the arsenic, but it causes the DNA to unravel because it's four times as large as that nitrogen was. And those other little elements, titanium, vanadium, chromium, manganese, magnesia and, and iron, all of those, those aren't true elements those are isotopes. Those things, those first three are the full tones. They make full spheres, but now it becomes elliptical with titanium, vanadium and chromium and on the other side, it's like when, like I said, if you wrap the rag around your hand, the first wrap really tight, you can't get much out of it. Second wrap, you damn near can't see the difference of a third one, you start, you start seeing hydrogen. The fourth wrap, you see carbon. I need a piece of paper or a rag and I can show you that twist. But in between each one of them by the time you get... Nature does not allow us in the silicone octave for there to expand out, but there is the same titanium, vanadium, chromium, magnesia and iron that exists between aluminum and silicone, but nature doesn't allow us to unravel that. But now with the wave conjugations, we can. We couldn't do that before because we didn't know the angles of incidents that were necessary to open these things up and you couldn't do that with the platonic solids because the platonic solids were averages and approximations. They... Like I've said a number of times, you show me a real straight line in nature. If everything in the nature, if everything in the universe, everything is expressed in motion, our motion expressed in waves, all waves were curved. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So the greater the action, the greater the reaction, the greater the reaction, the greater the resistance, the greater the resistance, the greater the curvature. Because the universe is based off of equanimity which Einstein left out in his theory of relativity, the balancing side of the gravity, gravity was caused by electric force. Electricity is always seeking a higher pressure condition. It spins northeast as trying to get to the center of an area, the center of a cone but the next electric wave is coming so it gets pushed out and as it's pushed out, it gets to the vortices and that's some on those pieces, those vortices. Now instead of it spinning northeasterly-... centripetally, it's forced to spin centrifugally and it spins southwesterly. And it expands itself out, it decays, it keeps decaying until you get four magnetic waves that hit each other at 120 degree angles. At that point, they reconvert back into the electric field and then they make their way back to their source again, whether it's the star, whatever star it came into. What happens when we get older? We expand at our equator, right? We get shorter at the top. Why? Because the electric force is pushing in and condensing, and the magnetism expands out at the equator. The, the electron field, the electrons, that's just discharged electricity, devitalized electricity coming from the sun, coming from the earth. It's the waste product from it. But it hits our magnetic field and then it gets pulled right back in and gets compressed again and now it becomes electricity for the earth, and then it pushes itself right back out again at the equator. The equator is five miles wider than the, than the poles. Electricity, Einstein left that out of his equation because he coupled electricity and magnetism together and didn't realize that electricity was the equal and opposite of magnetism. Electricity being the, the, the contractive field. You breathe in, that's a contractive thing. You breathe out, that's, that's a magnetic thing, a radiative thing. But they use the term magnet as an attractor, but to magnify something means to what? Make it larger, increase the space. That's the work of radiation. That's what Walter Russell was talking about all those years. That's the work of radiation. It's the electricity between the things that pull them together. The Coulomb force that supposedly opposites attract and push each other away, if that was true, then hot air and cold air would seek each other out. They're the same substance, but just under a ... but in a different state. One is, they move in opposite directions from each other. Hot water and cold water move in opposite directions from each other. The reason two magnets seem like they're, the North Pole is attracted to the South Pole because if you had two rivers or two holes, two hoses with water coming out of them and you pointed them at each other, what are they gonna do? They're gonna be pushing against each other. But they align to where the male enters the female and is able to come out. So they've been fooled by their senses. They've been fooled by their eyes and, and, and have missed the whole picture of it. Are you familiar with, um, Kahlil Gibran?

   2. JRJoe Rogan21:39

      Yes.

   3. THTerrence Howard21:40

      He wrote a book. He wrote The Prophet, you know, in 1923. But he kn- wrote another book called, um, Sand and Foam. In that book, he told a story of a man who had been away from his family for four months working, and he was excited to come home. And as he was coming home, he knew that the mountain, when he saw the mountain, that he would be able to, he was close to home. So his five senses started having a conversation and his eye says, "I see a mountain, I see a mountain, I see a mountain." And so the ears perked out and said, "I don't hear a mountain." The nose sniffed and said, "I don't smell a no- mountain." The, the tongue tasted the air, "I don't taste a mountain." And the f- other four sentence, senses started speaking among themselves and they came to the conclusion that there must be something the matter with the eye, because they couldn't perceive it. But all of these things, we've been misled just because we've been fooled by our senses. Our eyes see .05% of the entire electromagnetic wave. We're blind cosmically, but we judge everything by what we see.

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:53

      Mm.

   5. THTerrence Howard22:53

      And they've done that with science for so many years. You look at E equals MC squared, that talks about ex- expansion. It doesn't, it does not show how it's divided. If ev- you've never breathed in twice without breathing out. You breathe in and you breathe out. You charge and you discharge. There's no s- so how is it that the breathing in, they're acting as if the universe is just expanding out, expanding out, breathing out, breathing out, and it's gonna dissipate out, and they never include the contractive side of it breathing in, because they were misled by Newton who said, "Everything moves in a straight line unless affected by something else." And we know that not to be true, but they built the entire two-dimensional plane, the Euclidean space that we live on, that we work on, that we try and define curved nature by two-dimensional space, and we never include the curvature, the breathing in. Like, um, A- Alan Watts said, um, "No one would be attracted to a Euclidean woman because she would just be straight." All straight lines. It's the, it's the wiggliness, it's the curvature that brings the balance. Everything has to have the balance. You know, the, the, the elec- electric side and the magnetic side. I, I can talk about it, but I can show you even better. If you can, um-

   6. JRJoe Rogan24:32

      Can I, can I stop you there? This, the, the concept of the periodic table, the way the periodic table conventionally is addressed, did they address these things as being isolated or intertwined?

   7. THTerrence Howard24:45

      ... they interact, but they feel that carbon will always be carbon and it will have its half-life and its, and its... and keep breaking down, but it'll still be carbon. They don't understand that it unwinds and becomes nitrogen. Nitrogen unwinds and becomes oxygen.

   8. JRJoe Rogan25:07

      So this, the periodic table that, uh, the conventional use of the periodic table, and what is this other gentleman's name again?

   9. THTerrence Howard25:14

      Walter Russell.

   10. JRJoe Rogan25:14

       Walter Russell. Walter Russell's version of the periodic table, how is Walter Russell's version of the periodic table perceived by people who study this?

   11. THTerrence Howard25:24

       Well, now everyone wants to use it. If you can go to my, uh, in my book, there's a, there's a picture of Einstein reading Walter Russell's first book, um, second book, The Universe of One, 'cause when Walter wrote this in 1926, he sent it out to all, to 300 different universities and physicists, and one of the quotes that Walter Russell s- that, um, Einstein says on his deathbed, "I should have spent more time reading Walter Russell's work." That's how. And now they're taking it under their wing, but remember the Michelson-Morley experiment from 1877, 1887. They're, uh, they were trying to prove whether there was an ether or an effect of an ether or the quinteses- the quintessence that everything came from, that used to be called the, The Fifth Element, that everything in, that from antiquity, everyone understood that nothing just, something doesn't come out of nothing. It's like when you look at the air, it looks clear, but you change the pressure condition, the balance of the change of pressure condition, we call that condensation. It creates clouds. And you change the motion conditions, whether it's moving quickly or slowly, it's going to become snow, it's gonna become rain, it's going to become hail. So everything comes down to just one of two forces. Either you're breathing in and filling up something or you're pouring it out, but the scientists, they ignored Walter Russell's work because he didn't include any equa- equations inside of it. He, he talked philosophically regarding how things behave in comparison to laying down and following some Newtonian or calculus writing. You know, he said he based things based on let's explore them naturally, and that's what I did with my book. Once, what Walter Russell was missing, he didn't have the wave conjugations. He didn't have the, the mirror shapes, the all shapes, and that was because of a mistake that was made 6,000 years ago maybe, they took the flower of life, which was that symbol.

   12. JRJoe Rogan27:45

       Mm-hmm.

   13. THTerrence Howard27:46

       Um, if you could go to my book, tcotlc.com, there's an example that I put in there, um, on page 64, and I show the period- I show the element, the fundamentals. If you could possibly pull that up, Jamey.

   14. JRJoe Rogan28:07

       What was that .com again? TCLTC?

   15. THTerrence Howard28:08

       It's tcotlc.com. You'll see in there the mistake that they made because they believed in straight lines, because the church was promoting the idea of straight lines. Yeah, just tap on right below there.

   16. JRJoe Rogan28:25

       Yeah.

   17. THTerrence Howard28:25

       There's, yep. Download. No, just go to the center of the page and right above that, and you see initial public draft, just tap on it, and if you go to page 64, on the right side of the page, right there, on the left side of the page, you'll see the five platonic solids. Now these, all of our axioms, all of our postulates have been built off of these things. This is what Euclid went down to, to Egypt and pulled these things together. Pythagoras worked on 'em. And these were the undisputed fundamentals of God that he used to build. If you tap onto the flower of life platonic solids things, it's gonna take you to a video. Turn it, uh, you don't have to turn it, but it'll show you the flower of life that they took this from, but you'll see that instead of following the natural curvature of these 64 circles overlapping, they averaged the space where they, where they met and they invented straight lines.

   18. JRJoe Rogan29:34

       Hmm.

   19. THTerrence Howard29:36

       They in-

   20. JRJoe Rogan29:37

       Why did they do that?

   21. THTerrence Howard29:38

       Because they believed that the world was flat. They believed the world was flat at the time and the church promoted, Pythagorean theorem comes off of this cube, A squared plus B squared equals C squared.

   22. JRJoe Rogan29:52

       So they wanted to use all of these intertwining circles and create straight lines?

   23. THTerrence Howard29:58

       Because that's how they thought

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   Now the flower of…

   1. THTerrence Howard30:00

      everything came down to straight lines. They thought the world was flat, and I was like, "Oh my goodness." They didn't open the flower properly. So the next one will be the icosahedron.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      Now the flower of life, it's, it's very, very old. The concept is very old. What, what was the origin of the concept?

   3. THTerrence Howard30:19

      It's the oldest symbol known to mankind. I, it's believed that it was Enki, the brother of Enlil, if you go by the Emerald Tablets.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:29

      Sumerian text.

   5. THTerrence Howard30:30

      Yeah, the Sumerian text, that was the one that created mankind 'cause if you look at mankind, and there's a point I wanna make with it, I want you to stay on the book, go back to page, go to 134 on the book, and this is what that o- other gentleman being told me to do. He said, "Why don't you just take the pieces that make up the flower and put them together based on universal ratios?"So, if you once you're able to pull it up.

   6. NANarrator30:58

      164?

   7. THTerrence Howard30:59

      Page 134.

   8. NANarrator31:02

      134.

   9. THTerrence Howard31:02

      134 in the book. So this is the juxtapose of the mistake they made. Yep, just tap right on to that. Yep, just tap on it. Uh... Now, this was made by David Johnson, one of our programmers, Argos Fuel. So if you go to the far left and tap on that, this is... I took four of those triangles and wow, and you can scroll around. This is what happens when four bubbles meet. This is the negative space where they can't touch each other. This is hydrogen, and as I was saying, electricity is always trying to get to the center of that triangle, but it gets pushed out. And now you see it has four contractive poles, which is the electric poles. Just go around it from like a, a horizontally, yeah. It has four contractive poles because electricity is seeking a higher pressure condition and forcing it in, where magnetism is seeking a lower pressure condition and spun out. So the vortices, those tips, that's the magnetic field, that's where they begin. But it has an equal attractor and an equal amount of repulsion. So if you go to what happens when eight bubbles meet, they gave me the patents to that. I call it that the tetraon. This is-

   10. NANarrator32:26

       So this is the negative space in between eight bubbles?

   11. THTerrence Howard32:28

       Eight bubbles. This is a negative space where eight bubbles meet and you can scroll around.

   12. NANarrator32:33

       And this is ignored when they're concentrating on straight lines?

   13. THTerrence Howard32:36

       Completely. Because this... And if you look from the top, I haven't violated anything. It fits perfectly inside of there. But this is a negative space where eight bubbles meet, but you'll notice it has eight contractive poles, but it only has six magnetic poles, six vortices. So it has a greater electrical potential than a repulsion. So maybe this is the strong nuclear force, and the previous one was the weak nuclear force. So I was like, okay, I called this the Hunton after my son. So I was like, what happens when six bubbles meet? If you'll go to the one right in the center. Now you see that it has these huge bubbles, fast moving, but there's six strong spheres that's going around this, but the greater attractor has grabbed the two weaker attractors. And this looks just like a photon. And guess what? It has 30 poles. What is the speed of light? 299... 299,752,400 something. They round it off to 300... 300,000,000 kilometers per second squared. But if you look at it from the top, you'll see that I haven't violated anything. This looks like what happens in nature. So I was like, okay, so they gave me the patents to this, but you'll see that there's six unaccounted electrical poles to it. So I was like, what happens when 12 bubbles meet if you go to the one right next to it? Another stable structure that we basically see in nature, but there's four unaccounted electrical poles to it. Four spin around it. You can count those four. You'll see one at the bottom and three on those sides. This is the basis of crystallization, the laws of crystallization that forms. And you can go to the last one. I was like, what happens when 24 bubbles meet? This is a negative space if you pull to a horizontal on it. This is a negative space where 24 bubbles meet. This is where you cannot distinguish this from the background because all of the electrical potential has been accounted for. This would be the Bose-Einstein condensate where, where something is... becomes indistinguishable from the fabric of space itself, the final state of matter. Something... And the proof of this, the platonic solids, they have a thing called discrete symmetry. You can put the cubes together, maybe you can put the dodecahedrons together, but you can't put all of them together. But you can take the wave conjugations right here and they form super symmetrical systems where everything aligns. So there's a, a site that, that James sent over to you and you'll... This will be the final thing and then I'll, I'll be quiet for a second.

   14. NANarrator35:34

       (laughs)

   15. THTerrence Howard35:34

       But, uh, because this is the final... This right here, now these are sculpt... other sculptures I've built. There's a, a video, um, and you'll see that flower, you'll... If you'll pop it up from Terry's linchpins that, that he sent you. You'll see... And that this was one of four super symmetrical systems that I patented. And the reason I patented it was because when Walter Russell put his stuff up... Yep, just go down a little bit and we're going to get to grav... Not that one. We're going to get to gravity in a second. Not that one. We're not even there yet. There. Te- tetraterian wave conjugations. Now these are all of those systems put together. This is the... where 12 bubbles meet, the Aubreans.

   16. NANarrator36:25

       Mm-hmm.

   17. THTerrence Howard36:25

       And then I put five of them together and they make these natural starfish. But then when I put 10 of them together, they lay themselves out and they predict all distribution of matter within the electric field. And you can see where six bubbles meet on the... as you get to a higher point on it, those where six bubbles are meeting, still fitting perfectly where the 12 bubbles are meeting and where the s- where the four and where the eight... That's a super symmetrical system. I put-... 12 of ... If I put 20 of those where six bubbles meet, the Antonians, they make a natural dodecahedron that's naturally curved. If I take where the 12 bubbles meet, that's where I made the linchpin from, ultimately from some of those pieces you got right there, that all shape of it. So that was one of the first things. But when Walter Russell came out with his book and he introduced his periodic table, he watched as different people went up and collected Nobel Prizes for deuterium, for tritium, for all these things that he had discovered. And I was like, "Okay. Let me wait until the patents are granted before I'll talk about it-

   18. JRJoe Rogan37:44

       Hmm.

   19. THTerrence Howard37:44

       ... so that they won't be able to stop it." But what makes more sense? Where they invented straight lines in opening the flower or where you actually take the individual pieces of the flower and put it together based on universal ratios? Which one do you think is how the givers of that knowledge intended for us to use it?

   20. JRJoe Rogan38:07

       Well, it makes sense because you're accounting for the negative space and the straight lines are not.

   21. THTerrence Howard38:12

       Bingo.

   22. JRJoe Rogan38:12

       Yeah. That it must be something. And so ... And then these, these are all physical representations that you've created?

   23. THTerrence Howard38:19

       Yep.

   24. JRJoe Rogan38:20

       That are all, all the, of those things?

   25. THTerrence Howard38:22

       Same things. That's the aubriin right there.

   26. JRJoe Rogan38:24

       How was this received? Like when you-

   27. THTerrence Howard38:27

       Oh.

   28. JRJoe Rogan38:27

       ... you talk to people about this?

   29. THTerrence Howard38:29

       Oh, man. They, they first l- ... Because I didn't show them, I hadn't shown them. I introduced it with, "Let's talk about our fundamentals are a little bit off. There are no straight lines."

   30. JRJoe Rogan38:40

       Right.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yep. …

   1. THTerrence Howard45:00

      Yep.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      ... almost all of them are fucked up.

   3. THTerrence Howard45:02

      Yeah. My uncle used to call it ... He said if you, "You don't get any flower to grow unless you throw some shit on it."

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:10

      (laughs) So back to Neil deGrasse Tyson-

   5. THTerrence Howard45:13

      So-

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:13

      ... and his critique of Tesla.

   7. THTerrence Howard45:14

      So he threw shit on, on ... He was like, well, Tesla's, Tesla's stuff worked, but Tesla was never really respected in, out there. And he wanted ... I guess he wanted me to support Bohr or Schrodinger or, or, or Feynman or any of those people. And I'm looking at the Feynman diagrams. I'm like, "You made all these things up. You've got ... You're basically doing the Mr. Spock thing." If you wanna find the answer to something, then you cancel out all the possibilities, all other possibilities and you route it down to one thing. So that means going through the whole universe to answer one question. And that's the problem with probability. That's the problem with, with, uh, Heisenberg uncertainties, um, uncertainty. That's the problem with Schrodinger. All of those were just these probabilities because they had taken the ether out. They forgot the electromagnetic wave.

   8. JRJoe Rogan46:07

      Mm-hmm.

   9. THTerrence Howard46:08

      It had to have a medium in which it followed on. It had to have something in which it was moving on.

   10. JRJoe Rogan46:13

       They don't exist in isolation?

   11. THTerrence Howard46:15

       No. They do not, and it, it cannot be the cause of its own action. An effect can never be (laughs) the cause of the action.

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:23

       Mm.

   13. THTerrence Howard46:23

       The, the, the chicken cannot come bef- ... The egg cannot be- come before the chicken. The chicken has to be there first in order to lay it. It has to mate. And what Einstein left out was the equal and opposite of magnetism. So when he ... Back to Neil deGrasse. When he wrote his response to my paper and he said, "And if you have any other questions, you're gonna have to see somebody else," and he wouldn't take my calls anymore. I was like, "Okay." So I wrote-

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:51

       Wow.

   15. THTerrence Howard46:51

       ... the book based off of those responses and I reached out to another guy, um, Dr. David Tong.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:58

       That would be very, very interesting that that would be his take as a public educator, that he wouldn't wanna talk to you anymore.

   17. THTerrence Howard47:05

       The reason I wanted to talk to him was because of his show, The Cosmos, that he-

   18. JRJoe Rogan47:08

       Mm-hmm.

   19. THTerrence Howard47:09

       ... was doing after, after that incredible guy, you know, Carl Sagan did.

   20. JRJoe Rogan47:13

       Mm-hmm.

   21. THTerrence Howard47:13

       The very first episode he had was talking about, um, Giordano Bruno.

   22. JRJoe Rogan47:19

       Mm-hmm.

   23. THTerrence Howard47:20

       And he said that Giordano Bruno was looking for that grand unified field equation and maybe one day somebody is going to do it. And when they do it, it's going to change the world. And I'm like, "Dude, I've done it. I've, I've, I've got it here." He attacked it so ... with such vitriol that I, I was like, "Oh, okay. Maybe I need to walk away from this." Dr. David Tong from Cambridge, a professor at Cambridge, did a video on, on, on physics of the world and he said, "It's all a lie." And he explained that there was these 16 fields, you know, that they ... Everything that they had taught was this ... And they gave the best understanding and interpretation that they had of it. But it was all a lie because they didn't understand how it worked. Why? Because the Michelson-Morley experiment from 1887 where they were trying to define the ether or the earth in this etheric space, problem was they kept with Newtonian laws, so they thought the ether didn't move. They thought it was still. But there was another guy, Larmor, that did it in, um, early 1800s and he went off of Thomas Young who influenced the Fresnel lens, came, you know, influenced Fresnel, came up with the Fresnel lens. But he talked about a s- a moving ether that had opposing vortices.

   24. JRJoe Rogan48:51

       Mm.

   25. THTerrence Howard48:51

       So I didn't learn all of this stuff until I was getting ready to have conversations with people because I was looking, "Where has this work been done?" But if you look at, at, um, Giordano Bruno's work...It looks a lot like my stuff, but he still had straight lines in it, and I think he put those straight lines in there to appease the church.

   26. JRJoe Rogan49:12

       (smacks lips) Oh, wow. (laughs)

   27. THTerrence Howard49:13

       So that he wouldn't get killed.

   28. JRJoe Rogan49:15

       Oh my god. (laughs)

   29. THTerrence Howard49:16

       And they still killed him. They hung him upside down in 1600, the Catholic Church, 1599, hung him upside down in a stake and set him on fire because he refused to recant that the god that they were talking about was not the true god of the universe. It was much larger than that. Their story went back 6,000 years, and there's other traditions and, and tribes around the world where their stories go back 200,000 years.

   30. JRJoe Rogan49:47

       Mm.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   Mm. …

   1. THTerrence Howard1:00:00

      (laughs) , he's, he's my Scotty. We, we use the same simulator that they use at Princeton and we took linchpins and we haven't even introduced linchpins yet, but it'll be a great introduction for it. We took linchpins, this configuration of where, um, where six pentagons meet and we put them in particular order. They're at the... There's a link for that right inside of the thing that, that James, James Pellegrini s- sent over to, to you. If you'll pull that up. And we rebuilt the planet Saturn without gravity and it has the rings with no animation. It has the rings and the hexagon that's observed at the-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

      Mm.

   3. THTerrence Howard1:00:50

      ... very top of it without dark matter, without dark energy, without gravity, showing that it's an outward, inward, outward force pushing down that creates the planet. If you can pull that up and he explains it out, it's, like, three minutes long.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

      And where does the matter come from?

   5. THTerrence Howard1:01:07

      He used... Well, the matter, remember that's condensation.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:01:10

      Mm-hmm.

   7. THTerrence Howard1:01:10

      If you were to picture before we watch it-

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:01:13

      So this is it?

   9. THTerrence Howard1:01:13

      Yeah. Before we watch it, let, let me explain something. If you were to picture the waves at the ocean...... you know, the darker the waves, the deeper the water. Y- you can't see a distinguishing fact between them until they crash into each other. That splatter, that, that little foam that comes out-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:01:32

       Mm-hmm.

   11. THTerrence Howard1:01:32

       ... it lasts for a couple seconds and then it settles back on there, and it's just the balance between this force and this force.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:01:38

       Mm-hmm.

   13. THTerrence Howard1:01:39

       That's the physical universe. Those few seconds that it takes that matter, that more dense water and the foam to re-coalesce and get balanced again with the surrounding environment, that's the entire time that our universe, or all these universes, have worked together. But if you play this ... This is at the very beginning of my book. That's why I went on that, that, at the Emmys, and I was like, "Look, I've got a whole ... got something else to do. I've been able to rebuild Saturn without gravity, with no animation." And then they clowned it.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:02:19

       (laughs) Of course they did.

   15. THTerrence Howard1:02:21

       They clowned it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:02:21

       Well, this is not something that you could say in a sound bite, which is one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to you. This is not something ... Like y- your explanation of these things and your description of the very nature of reality itself is not something that should be taken lightly.

   17. THTerrence Howard1:02:37

       No.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:02:38

       It's something that, like-

   19. THTerrence Howard1:02:39

       Thank you for saying that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:02:40

       It needs to, uh, th- It needs to be laid out, and it needs to be slowly examined in every s- 'Cause you've obviously spent a lot of time working on this. This thing here.

   21. THTerrence Howard1:02:50

       Play it.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:02:51

       So play this, Jamie. Okay. Well, there's-

   23. THTerrence Howard1:02:53

       And this is us-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:02:53

       What, Jamie?

   25. Uh, just to clarify what I'm gonna play-

   26. THTerrence Howard1:02:56

       Yeah, and turn it up.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:02:57

       ... but there's two ... Hold on, hold on.

   28. Yeah, you're-

   29. There's two different videos. One's long, one's short.

   30. THTerrence Howard1:03:00

       No, y- this is gonna be the short one.
6. 1:15:00 – 1:30:00

   (laughs) …

   1. THTerrence Howard1:15:04

      And render that just so you can kinda see it a little bit better, so that's ... So they're all pointed towards the center, but they're arranged in what we call the linchpin configuration. I'm gonna pretend like you never heard of that before.

   2. NANarrator1:15:20

      (laughs)

   3. THTerrence Howard1:15:21

      So there's one on the top and then three, in groups of three around that are spaced at 120 degrees apart. And the tilt of these ones on the bottom here is 109.5 degrees in relationship to the top ones, that are creating this flat space on the top and the bottom. And they're spaced at 120 degrees, radially. And then inside the model is, uh, three groups-

   4. NANarrator1:15:54

      Jamie, there's two sounds playing simultaneously. No, he's got sound in the background. Oh, while he's doing it?

   5. THTerrence Howard1:15:59

      That's, that's my wife talking. We're in the kitchen and-

   6. NANarrator1:16:01

      Oh.

   7. THTerrence Howard1:16:01

      ... he's just explaining some of the sky.

   8. NANarrator1:16:02

      Oh, okay. Okay. Recording from the Sky.

   9. THTerrence Howard1:16:03

      This is of the sky.

   10. NANarrator1:16:04

       Oh, okay. I was confused.

   11. THTerrence Howard1:16:05

       (laughs)

   12. NANarrator1:16:05

       Go ahead.

   13. THTerrence Howard1:16:07

       ... is up to 1,000 pounds, from 2.2 pounds to 1,000 pounds. And there's no gravity whatsoever in this model. There's no center attractor, so it's just vortexes and two, two magnetic fields, a north and south polarity, and one harmonic resonance with s- ... is emanating a vibration in the field in this region here where these vortexes are pointed. So it kinda just oscillates to give it a little bit of randomness and motion so that the particles will kind of interact and bounce around like smoke-

   14. NANarrator1:16:40

       (coughs)

   15. THTerrence Howard1:16:40

       ... or water, waves in water. And then when I hit play, it does it all by itself using physics simulations. So there's no animations at all in this model. And when I play it, this is what pops out.

   16. NANarrator1:17:00

       Holy fuck. Wow.

   17. THTerrence Howard1:17:05

       And then when I look down at the top, it makes the actual hexagon that NASA has observed on the top of Saturn. Without gravity. Without any gravity. And you'll see that the, you get a surface of the sphere on the inside with the heavier particles. So the colors-

   18. NANarrator1:17:26

       So are you basically saying ... Is this saying that you guys could recreate planets? Because-

   19. THTerrence Howard1:17:33

       Yes, it ... This is a, this is a particle simulation of the physics involved in making up the planet Saturn.

   20. NANarrator1:17:39

       Wow.

   21. THTerrence Howard1:17:39

       Include... Like, all the ...

   22. NANarrator1:17:41

       Yeah. Wow.

   23. THTerrence Howard1:17:43

       Yeah, so the heavier particles are creating the, the red and the green here-

   24. NANarrator1:17:47

       Can I pause this for a second?

   25. THTerrence Howard1:17:48

       Yeah.

   26. NANarrator1:17:49

       So is he saying that just by doing these calculations, he created the exact form of Saturn, including the rings?

   27. THTerrence Howard1:17:54

       Just the exact form of it.

   28. NANarrator1:17:56

       Just with the calculations?

   29. THTerrence Howard1:17:56

       So you change the angles of incidence that these linchpins ... 'Cause remember, each one of these has ... These are opposing vortices, so there's 12 vortices to this that, that are opposing. So once the angles of incidence change, you can ... You change the motion and pressure conditions, you can now change the condition or the crystallization. It all ... So I was saying with the periodic table, now because we have the angles of incidence, material engineering can now separate the space between carbon and nitrogen or carbon and boron and, and have the same elements of titanium, vanadium, chromium, manganese and iron or nickel, cobalt, nickel, copper, zinc, gallium or germanium in those higher octaves. We can do that between silicone and phosphorus or silicone and aluminum. So the transparent aluminum now becomes possible because we can now con- c- control the pressure and change con- ... The, the pressure and motion conditions where we couldn't do that before because they were going by Cartesian space at 90 degrees and 45 degrees straight lines, the Euclidean space that they've made up, this orthogonal or church-like space (laughs) that they've generated because they wanted to promote that cross. That was the basis of all of that. Now we open ourselves up. This is what happens when four bubbles meet. This is the negative space from when four bubbles are meeting. That's hydrogen. That's why when I went to, um, Uganda, I was like, "Look, look, we have an entirely new system of hydrogen that ... I've, I've got a patent where we, where we are able to ... You won't need projectiles in the guns anymore."It's my ... If you pull up my patent for, um, projectile, uh-

   30. Before we do that though, should we finish this?
7. 1:30:00 – 1:30:53

   Right. …

   1. THTerrence Howard1:30:00

      because I've discovered these wave conjugations, every person on the planet that's been thinking about it will now have ideas concerning, but not just us, but all humanoids throughout the entire universe will now get that same resonance and be able to apply it like the experiments with the rats.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:30:20

      Right.

   3. THTerrence Howard1:30:20

      You teach a rat something here in London and then in New York you find the rats are doing the same thing-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:30:26

      Right.

   5. THTerrence Howard1:30:26

      ... spontaneously because of the morphic resonance, because we are all connected on this ether, and that wave form is, that's the consciousness. We are all just one great being.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:30:37

      Yeah.

   7. THTerrence Howard1:30:38

      You know, and that's what they forget. We're not separate, we're all p- the universe is probably one cell inside of some superorganism.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:30:47

      Right.

   9. THTerrence Howard1:30:48

      And we're just-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:30:50

       Yeah.

   11. THTerrence Howard1:30:50

       ... little, little who, you know, little who's like-

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