EVERY SPOKEN WORD
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(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…
- NANarrator
(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)
- DRDan Richards
Hey.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hello. What's happening, dude?
- DRDan Richards
Not much.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good to see you again, man.
- DRDan Richards
Good to see you too, Joe. Thanks for the invite.
- NANarrator
Thanks, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my pleasure. Thanks for coming on here, man. I really enjoy your videos, Joe. Your, um, your website, your channel, rather, on YouTube, DeDunking, is, uh, it's, it's really great because it's so obviously, like, it's one of those things where you don't need like some big crazy set or high production values to make something interesting. It's just you with a bookshelf behind you-
- DRDan Richards
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... talking about stuff, and it's great.
- DRDan Richards
Well, thanks. I, I appreciate that, Joe. Yeah, I, I'm very passionate about this stuff, so it's, it... I'm glad that, uh, people are taking notice and that I'm sitting here talking to you right now about it. It's crazy to me, so thanks.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you were one of the g-... You, like me, um, were one of the early readers of Fingerprints of the Gods.
- DRDan Richards
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And that's sort of how you got into this whole subject, right?
- DRDan Richards
Yes, I, uh, I actually had that one pre-ordered from Hastings, uh, 'cause I'd read The Sign and the Seal.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, okay.
- DRDan Richards
And, uh, so I was already like, "Graham Hancock's pretty cool. I li- I like the way he's coming at these things." And, uh, I saw that there was a thing at Hastings that said to pre-order Fingerprints of the Gods for like $25 bucks or something, you get like $3 off, and so I did and was reading it cover to cover when, uh, I had Graham sign it. And him and Santa both were just looking at how beat the hell it is, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDan Richards
'Cause they'd been in a construction truck (laughs) where we're going job sites for like 20 years, but...
- JRJoe Rogan
That's awesome. Um, so The Sign and the Seal, was that, uh, about Ethiopia and the-
- DRDan Richards
Yeah, the Ark of the Covenant.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. What's your take on all that?
- DRDan Richards
It's interesting. Uh, uh, any time they won't let you see the evidence, I get like, my, all of my alarm bells go off, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DRDan Richards
It's like... But I understand why they wouldn't want you to see it, if it really is the Ark. Um, I'd like to see... I guess the best thing we could do to, to test it without seeing the Ark would be to look into the, uh, the claims that these guys go blind and they show signs of radiation sickness.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, let's explain to everybody what the claim-
- DRDan Richards
Oh, sorry.
- JRJoe Rogan
That, that they believe that this one church in Ethiopia actually possesses the Ark of the Covenant and that these priests that are supposedly guarding this, they all exhibit signs of radiation poisoning.
- DRDan Richards
Yes, they all re- just- exhibit signs of radiation poisoning. They go blind, they die quickly, and then somebody else and one priest at a time is allowed to be like the caretaker of the Ark, and...
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Uh- …
- JRJoe Rogan
- NANarrator
Uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
I know we pulled it up at one point in time. Because when these folks are standing around next to it ... Yeah, there. The far left.
- DRDan Richards
Oh. Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, see?
- DRDan Richards
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
See, that looks like-
- DRDan Richards
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
... it would fit in there.
- DRDan Richards
It does look like it would. But, uh, yeah, if you look up the measurements, I, I wish ... I, I don't, don't have them off the top of my head.
- NANarrator
I was doing that, but it's off track.
- DRDan Richards
But yeah, there, there, they are-
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at that.
- DRDan Richards
The King's Chamber. Yeah, if ... The, the sarcophagus in the King's Chamber and the, uh, Ark of the Covenant are ... Yeah.
- NANarrator
It's so big.
- DRDan Richards
It-
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, I feel like we should send the Green Berets into that church, like come on.
- DRDan Richards
Oh, yeah, there's no way-
- JRJoe Rogan
Come on, guys. Tell us what the fuck you got.
- DRDan Richards
(laughs) Go get some.
- JRJoe Rogan
Enough. Enough of this. Enough hiding. You, you ... This is like ... If you have that, that is ... That's something for the whole human race to know. That's not something for you to hide. That's not yours to, to covet.
- DRDan Richards
No. Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's ... That's wrong.
- DRDan Richards
No, it... But, but, uh, if they've been hiding it forever and it's a religious icon, and it's ... And they're, like, the, the keepers of it or whatever-
- JRJoe Rogan
Look how big the sarcophagus is in the King's Chamber.
- DRDan Richards
Yeah, dang.
- JRJoe Rogan
That thing's h-
- DRDan Richards
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That, that, that's crazy. The, the King's Chamber itself is so bananas. The, the whole thing. Like, why?
- DRDan Richards
I-
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- NANarrator
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- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDan Richards
Maybe we won't, but maybe our f- future people will.
- JRJoe Rogan
Future selves, yes. Yeah, I mean, what, what we're looking at is a mystery, and, uh, Egypt, to me, is one of the most phenomenal of all the mysteries, the, one of the most fascinating, because whatever happened, however long ago, those people in Africa did something that no one's been able to do since.
- DRDan Richards
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they did it-
- DRDan Richards
That's right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... in a way that defies our understanding not just of what they could do back then, but of what people could ever do, including right now.
- DRDan Richards
Yeah, and there's a lot to be said, like, that you can't see about a ancient Egypt that's amazing, like, uh, you know the Bronze Age collapse, you've heard of that, right? The-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DRDan Richards
And the Sea Peoples. E- Egypt was like the big power that survived. Like, all these other big powers, they were destroyed, they were crushed, they lost everything. Now, Egypt got smaller, but it survived. It wasn't until the Greeks came along that it was ... I mean, there were, they'd been conquered off and on, but it wasn't until the Greeks came along that they were truly subjugated. And, uh, that's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Thousands and thousands and thousands of years.
- DRDan Richards
And by the time the Greeks showed up-... that shit was so well ... If you look on the Osirion, they say that there's, uh, graffiti that's like the sacred geometry shit that was Hermeticism that was popular in Greece. So, they're seeing Hermeticist stuff with the sacred geometry on it. Um, and that's, like, you know, thousands of years later. Their, their, their minds are blown, the same as ours are today.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- DRDan Richards
And that's, that's really fucked when you think about Alexander the Great going there and tripping balls on the same shit we do, right? Going uh, that's, that's crazy, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) One of my favorite quotes is that Cleopatra was born closer to the age of the iPhone than she was to the construction of the pyramids.
- DRDan Richards
Yes, and that's-
- JRJoe Rogan
When you think about it that way, you're like, "Wait, what? What? For real?" (laughs) Like, wh- ... That's just the conventional dating-
- DRDan Richards
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... or the age of the pyramid, which is much discussed and debated.
- DRDan Richards
Of, very much so.
- JRJoe Rogan
And probably should be. It really probably should be. You know, and I, I know people want to point to carbon dating, but the problem with that is that we know that people resurface things and they do, do touch-ups. In fact, they're doing touch-ups right now, ill-advised in my opinion, on the, the base of the Sphinx, where they've covered the feet. I, I think that's horrible.
- DRDan Richards
It's terrible. Um, I, I, I should have air dropped this to Jamie. I'll send it to him in a second. Uh, there's a image that I've got of, um, that was just sent to me that's, uh, pretty amazing. Uh, the, there's a wall of one of the magazines in one of the pyramids that has a bunch of those vases in it. And this wall is, like, it collapsed. And the magazine is the name for a room. Anyway, they reconstructed this room. They reconstructed the wall, and it's got a, uh, a piece of one of those vases in the fucking wall. Like, right in the rubble that makes up the wall. And I, I could not, I just... Shit, I don't even have it saved. I'm sorry. Let me grab it real quick. Sorry, I should have done this before.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're one of those dudes use that tiny little phone. Look at that little thing.
- DRDan Richards
I'm an old guy. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that the iPhone Mini? Is that what that is? Or is that the SE or something?
- DRDan Richards
Uh, yeah, the SE, I think. Something like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
How long is the battery life on that, 20 minutes?
- DRDan Richards
(laughs) 14.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
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Yeah. "Well, how'd they…
- JRJoe Rogan
you in a place where you would, you wouldn't disturb anything, but you could observe. That's what I would... Like, "What was going on?"
- DRDan Richards
Yeah. "Well, how'd they do that?"
- JRJoe Rogan
"What did it look like?"
- DRDan Richards
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"What did their culture look like? What did the people look like when they were going about their, their daily tasks?" You know, we used to think that it was slaves that built the pyramid. Now they think, no, there were skilled workers.
- DRDan Richards
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they think that based on what their diet was, and they were eating good food, and these, these people were well taken care of-
- DRDan Richards
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that were involved in working around that area. So like, who were they? What was it, what was it all about?
- DRDan Richards
Yeah, that's one of the things that, um, it, they, when they say that it's not slaves that built it, that kind of makes me chuckle. Because yeah, we know that they had, you know, well-fed people that worked there. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they were the only people that worked there. I mean, if you go-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DRDan Richards
... if you go down to construction over here, you're gonna have a guy that's eating at Zip- or eating at freaking Burger King or whatever, and you're gonna have another guy who's eating a $300 lunch, and they're gonna be working the same job site.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Good point.
- DRDan Richards
So, but, but also, probably a lot of them didn't want to work there, and they were forced to do it, which makes you a slave.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) That's, that's a fair point.
- DRDan Richards
If you're paying slaves well, they're still slaves. They're still slaves. That's right. If you kill them when they leave, they're slaves. (laughs) Still slaves. That's right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's like you have a job to do no matter what you want to do. Oh, you want to become a musician? Fuck off. Go push that rock.
- DRDan Richards
Push the rock. And push it some more. Oh, you know what? That one is another.
- JRJoe Rogan
The, we're never going to, um, stop being fascinated by the people of the past that we don't understand.
- DRDan Richards
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And I think, again, the best example of that is Egypt.
- DRDan Richards
Yeah. And that's where, um, like we were talking about how, uh, archaeology and the archeologists and pseudo guys will argue with each other so much about, and it gets so bad-blooded about it. And it's like... Now, I talked about this a little bit last time, but there's really, as I see it, there's two distinct like halves of the human psyche at work in this, in, in this regard. You can almost see it, the, the distinction in the way that scientists tend to be antisocial. They're, they're not... And maybe antisocial might not be the right word, but they're just a little fucking weird, man. They're the kind of guys that they dress weird, they talk weird, they act weird. They just come across fucking weird.
- JRJoe Rogan
You talking about Van Dennel here?
- DRDan Richards
I'm talking about all scientists in general. But yes, he, he would be one of them, but he's not the only one. Like John Hoopes is a great example of this, too. If you watch him and the way he carries himself, the way he talks, he's just fucking wei- And he, look at Einstein. Did you watch that guy? He carried himself fucking weird.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDan Richards
But-
- JRJoe Rogan
My friend, Chris Williamson, has a very interesting take on that that I think is very accurate. He said, "If you expect regular people to get extraordinary res- results-"
- DRDan Richards
You're nuts.
- JRJoe Rogan
... "you're being silly."
- DRDan Richards
Yeah.
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(laughs) …
- DRDan Richards
that was, uh, went into hibernation, they were lizards, they went into hibernation, like, before the eye- dinosaurs died out, and then they wake up one day and there's all these monkeys running around on their planet, and so...
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DRDan Richards
But (laughs) that's the Doctor Who thing, right? But the, the Silurian hypothesis is basically a thought tool for archeologists and historians to say, "Well, if there was a advanced civilization on Earth 10 million years ago, what will we need to find in order for it to exist? And, or what would we find, um, now, 10 million years later?" And the answer's usually, like, radioactive material. It's like, that 10 million years, man, you fucking, you might find a couple of bones, but the odds of finding anything that's gonna actually prove that they had technology? Uh, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DRDan Richards
Not much.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's also the problem with the idea of this very sophisticated construction methods of the pyramids, that were using some sort of advanced technology. Like, what would... If John Anthony West is correct, um, and he's talking about 30-plus thousand years, what would be left after 30,000 years? Well, certainly not much metal.
- DRDan Richards
No. Oh, no, that, that stuff would be looted right away, um-
- JRJoe Rogan
And even if it wasn't, what would be actually left of it, if it was just, like, sitting on the ground?
- DRDan Richards
It'd be rotted and, and melted.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. To nothing.
- DRDan Richards
The, uh, the video that you sent me yesterday, the, uh, the one with the, the stone nubs, the, um, they talked about holes?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DRDan Richards
Um, all those, I can't say for all of the sites, but, like, the Colosseum and stuff, they used metal to bond the, the bricks together and the concrete together in places, so years later, when the city's under attack and they need metal to make swords, they looted it. That's rec- that's recorded.
- JRJoe Rogan
That makes sense.
- DRDan Richards
Um, and it happened a lot, a lot in the Roman world, um, so-
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm glad you brought up the nubs.
- DRDan Richards
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because the nubs, um, uh, that was one of the videos that I watched of yours yesterday. Um-... where for... What we're talking about, folks, is there's many places like Machu Picchu, there's, uh... What- what other places have nubs?
- DRDan Richards
Oh, all over the place, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Even that Montana thing-
- DRDan Richards
E- Even the Montana.
- JRJoe Rogan
... which is weird.
- DRDan Richards
You'll, you'll see them on, uh, Egyptian sarcophagi. You'll see them on the casing s- uh, unfinished casing stones at the bottom of Menkaure's Pyramid. Uh, you'll see them basically at... A- almost every megalithic site on the planet has some nubs somewhere. All the ones... If they're finished blocks, you'll usually find nubs somewhere.
- JRJoe Rogan
And do you think that it's possible that those nu-... There's the nubs. Those nubs were used to hoist things up and move them into place?
- DRDan Richards
Oh, yeah, absolutely. I, uh, I mean, they, they... There's a technique called l- b- a lifting boss, um, that, that's used, uh, to lift big things like that. But there's a couple of issues, um, with that, uh, being the only reason that they're used. Uh, for one, a lot of times they're small like that and they wouldn't really do you much good. Um, for two, a lot of times we see them like on the lids of a, of a coffin, for example, which you wouldn't want to leave it there afterwards because you don't want to facilitate the next guy to be able to pop the coffin lid, right? So-
- JRJoe Rogan
Y- you say that they're small, but if you were trying to place something exactly and you were lifting it up from the bottom, the only way you would be able to do that is if you had something like a nub sticking on the outside of it.
- DRDan Richards
Yeah, in order to catch the r- a rope or keep it from walking or something like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, or-
- DRDan Richards
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... whatever it is. Boards-
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