Joe Rogan Experience #2327 - AJ Gentile

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. AGAJ Gentile0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music) Hey, Josh, what up?

   3. AGAJ Gentile0:14

      Are we, we doing this?

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Yes.

   5. NANarrator0:15

      Speak to the aliens. Speak to the aliens. Speak to the aliens.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      (laughs) I'm glad you brought ... heckle fish.

   7. AGAJ Gentile0:19

      (laughs) You did not have to do that.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      (laughs)

   9. AGAJ Gentile0:21

      I appreciate it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       I fuckin' love your channel, dude. I've spent countless hours watching your hilarious videos.

   11. AGAJ Gentile0:28

       So cool that you've even found it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Well, you know, Gino told me about it a lo- ... Your brother, Gino, who I've been friends with for years, told me about it a long time ago that you guys were doing this. And I was like, "Really? All right. Interesting." And then I watched them, I'm like, "This is fuckin' great. It's right up my alley."

   13. AGAJ Gentile0:45

       You would show clips all the time, and it would drive Gino nuts. And then finally, it, it got named Reggie Watts was here. And he's like, "You ever hear of The Why Files?" You guys were talking about moon landing shit. And you're like, "What's that?" And, uh, I don't know, a week or two later, Gino gets a text, "Are you The Why Files?"

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       (laughs) He didn't tell me the name of it.

   15. AGAJ Gentile1:04

       But he was so excited.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Yeah. It's a, a great show, dude.

   17. AGAJ Gentile1:07

       Appreciate it.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       It's like everything I'm fascinated by. Annunaki, aliens, secret bases. How did you get involved with making a show like this?

   19. AGAJ Gentile1:18

       (Kazoo noise)

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:19

       Is this something you've always been interested in?

   21. AGAJ Gentile1:20

       All m- ... I'm in, like, grew up Art Bell.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:23

       Yes.

   23. AGAJ Gentile1:23

       Dad-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:23

       There he is.

   25. AGAJ Gentile1:24

       There he is, the l- ... I mean, the GOAT. The GOAT.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:27

       Yeah.

   27. AGAJ Gentile1:27

       Um, Dad was an overnight cop, so always overnight radio, and so it was always Doctor Demento-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:33

       Yes.

   29. AGAJ Gentile1:34

       (laughs) You remember him? And, and Art Bell. So I kinda grew up with the weird stories, and it just got in the Twilight Zone. We watched as kids. It was, like, required watching from Dad, in the old black and whites, the classics.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:45

       Mm.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Why do you not…

   1. AGAJ Gentile15:00

      Iran to know. So, I understand-

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      Why do you not want them to know? Well, maybe we could all get along-

   3. AGAJ Gentile15:04

      Exhales loudly ]

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      ... if we realize that there's actual aliens that are visiting us. I mean, wasn't that the Ronald Reagan speech in front of the UN? You've seen that, right?

   5. AGAJ Gentile15:11

      Sure.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      Yeah, the famous speech?

   7. AGAJ Gentile15:14

      But wasn't, uh, the SDI part of that speech, is, "We'll all get along, but we're gonna have laser weapons in space just in case we don't"?

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      Mm.

   9. AGAJ Gentile15:21

      Wasn't that that same spea- ... It might not have been, but it was about that same time.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:25

       Ah.

   11. AGAJ Gentile15:25

       And that was all smoke and mirrors, you know?

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       Right. The Star Wars thing was fake, right?

   13. AGAJ Gentile15:28

       Couldn't get it to work.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       Yeah.

   15. AGAJ Gentile15:29

       It was all fake. So, maybe we'll all get along. Boy, that sounds nice. But, you know, Iran produces brilliant people, so intelligent, great engineers, doctors, all of that. But the government is bananas.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       Yeah.

   17. AGAJ Gentile15:44

       So, you, I mean, you don't wanna have brilliant scientists working like that. I mean-

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       Right.

   19. AGAJ Gentile15:48

       ... we had brilliant scientists working for dictators in the past and it was not awesome.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       Right.

   21. AGAJ Gentile15:53

       So-

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Like the Nazis.

   23. AGAJ Gentile15:54

       That's who I mean.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       Yeah, yeah.

   25. AGAJ Gentile15:56

       That's who I mean. So-

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       Yeah, it's really sketchy if they get the technology.

   27. AGAJ Gentile16:02

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       Well, this is what Hal Puthoff said. He said that the government of the United States has at least 10 of these things. And I said, "Well, other governments have them?" And he said, "Yes." And I said, "Well, do they have similar numbers?" He's like, "We believe so." So, they don't know. So, w- essentially what he was kind of alluding to is that there's ... Basically, they're like a kind of Manhattan Project to try to back engineer these things. And whoever figures it out first is going to have a massive advantage.

   29. AGAJ Gentile16:29

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:31

       And it would be nice if it was us.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Right. …

   1. NANarrator30:06

      was looking at a (swallows) article about the original article, and it says that the two guys na- mentioned might not have even existed.

   2. AGAJ Gentile30:12

      Right.

   3. NANarrator30:12

      There's no evidence of them.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:12

      G.E. Kincaid?

   5. AGAJ Gentile30:12

      Right.

   6. NANarrator30:12

      And another guy named S.A. Jordan.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:12

      Oh, so it might be just a story that someone printed, some horse shit?

   8. NANarrator30:12

      Yeah. I've hea-... When I was looking into one of these things before, I found a, something explaining that back in the, like, early 1900s when newspapers were a really popular thing to read, I don't know if it was, like, a, a game or if there was actual prizes people would play or, like, amongst themselves to try to get fake stories printed.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:15

      Oh.

   10. NANarrator30:15

       You could, if you could get the craziest story printed, you'd win, like, 500 bucks or...

   11. AGAJ Gentile30:15

       I might be wrong, but I think Jordan was connected to the Smithsonian. At least according to-

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       Mm-hmm.

   13. AGAJ Gentile30:15

       ... to the story.

   14. NANarrator30:15

       Well, the... I pulled this from the Smithsonian debunk, which, I mean, obviously they would if this is the way we're gonna go with it. But them debunking this and they gave two links. One to the original 1909 article, and one to a 2008 update, and that's where I was pulling that from.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       Hm.

   16. AGAJ Gentile30:15

       I don't trust the Smithsonian. They're exempt from all kinds of stuff.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       Yeah?

   18. AGAJ Gentile30:15

       Well, like, you're, there's a law passed not too long ago that if you have Native American artifacts that are important to that culture, especially burial artifacts, they must be returned. Unless you're the Smithsonian, then you-

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       They're allowed to hold onto them?

   20. AGAJ Gentile30:15

       ... then you can make, you can make a case that you don't have to give it back.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       How do they have so much power?

   22. AGAJ Gentile30:15

       I- they're gar-... It's a government agency.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       Smithsonian's a govern-... Oh, well, I didn't even know. I thought it was a private agency. So, there's no official story as to why this area of the Grand Canyon is off-limits.

   24. AGAJ Gentile30:15

       For your safety, is all.

   25. NANarrator30:15

       The Forbidden Zone, they call it.

   26. AGAJ Gentile30:15

       Yeah, it's all I can find.

   27. NANarrator30:15

       Man, that's fucking weird.

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       That's fucking weird that this story comes from the very area that's forbidden. That's fucking weird.

   29. AGAJ Gentile30:15

       I think that there-

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       What are the odds?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yep. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      Very, just very weird stuff. The, I, like I said, I used to think it was c- total nonsense-

   2. AGAJ Gentile45:05

      Yep.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      ... until I saw some documentaries on it where they were talking about the nodes and they were talking about some of these things are just so complex, and they appear so quickly.

   4. AGAJ Gentile45:12

      The nodes and the braiding, to me, was like, "Okay-

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      Yeah.

   6. AGAJ Gentile45:15

      ... now I got to change my approach to this."

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:17

      What do you think it is?

   8. AGAJ Gentile45:19

      Prrr, uh, yeah, I don't know. I, I think, uh, I think it's beyond us. It, uh, uh, it just, we're just monkeys trying to g- trying to guess math.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:28

      Mm.

   10. AGAJ Gentile45:29

       You know, I don't know. Uh, we, ev- ev- every time we make a guess on this show, someone's laughing at us.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:35

       Of course.

   12. AGAJ Gentile45:35

       You know? Someone's like, yeah, they, you know, they think it's a landing site.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:38

       Well, it's one of those subjects that if you even entertain it, you're am- almost immediately a fool.

   14. AGAJ Gentile45:43

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       Which, uh, I'm super comfortable with being a fool. (laughs)

   16. AGAJ Gentile45:46

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       I entertain a lot of foolish ideas. But that one is particularly foolish because people always point to those guys with boards, and I'm like, "Not so fast." Yeah, those guys with boards definitely made some circles, but this is, there's some of them that are really spectacular.

   18. AGAJ Gentile46:02

       They are.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       And it d- it just doesn't ... And when you factor in the nodes and you factored in the weaving, and then these incredible geometric shapes, like, how are you even mapping that? Like, how are you doing that? How many people are involved? How long does it take?

   20. AGAJ Gentile46:18

       Uh, I, you know, uh, it would take people so long, it would never be that accurate-

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:23

       Yeah.

   22. AGAJ Gentile46:24

       ... with, you know, with ropes and boards. I, you know, I just don't see it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       Right. But like, it leaves you with this weird mystery. Just like, "What, what is this?"

   24. AGAJ Gentile46:33

       I wish I knew.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:34

       It's just one of those things that like, it's almost like the universe is laughing at us. Every now and then, it just shows you something that's like so goofy that you have to go, "Well, what is real?"

   26. AGAJ Gentile46:44

       The, uh, you know, a great, it was a hoax, but a great crop circle was the Arecibo response. Do you know that one?

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:50

       Yes.

   28. AGAJ Gentile46:50

       That was a great one.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:51

       Yeah.

   30. AGAJ Gentile46:51

       That it was ... We sent the Arecibo message out-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:10:41

   Randall- …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      They don't want anyone to have any information that they don't have, so even in the face of very compelling information, they dismiss, uh, uh, o- openly, quickly, without any consideration. They, they just want to dismiss it, and then they want to pretend that any archeologist that presents any kind of information that fucks up the narrative isn't immediately attacked, and they are. Their careers are ruined. Whether you go back to Clovis First or in... Any of these different archeologists that have proposed alternative theories of the human timeline, all of the conventional archeologists, all the mainstream people attack them.

   2. AGAJ Gentile1:00:41

      Randall-

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

      Dismiss them.

   4. AGAJ Gentile1:00:42

      Randall Carlson.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:42

      Mm-hmm.

   6. AGAJ Gentile1:00:42

      Robert Schoch.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:43

      Yeah.

   8. AGAJ Gentile1:00:43

      John Anthony West.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

      Mm-hmm.

   10. AGAJ Gentile1:00:45

       Um, if I were advising Graham, I would have said, "Don't do that debate. Don't do it." There's no way to come off... You're not gonna convince anybody.... and you're just gonna come off not looking great. And, uh, and I've seen i- uh, his response on his own site.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:01:00

       Mm-hmm.

   12. AGAJ Gentile1:01:00

       And he's even said that was probably a mistake, he wasn't prepared enough, but you'll never be prepared enough for a professional debunker. You just won't be. They'll have too much.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:09

       Mm-hmm.

   14. AGAJ Gentile1:01:09

       So, I told him, "Don't, don't go in, don't go into the lion's den."

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:11

       Well, the problem was he wasn't being honest. Flint was not being honest about the information that we have, particularly about offshore shipwrecks.

   16. AGAJ Gentile1:01:19

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       He was just not honest.

   18. AGAJ Gentile1:01:21

       Nope.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:21

       You know? And the amount that they have discovered, not honest.

   20. AGAJ Gentile1:01:25

       And Graham didn't know that at the time.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:26

       Yeah. And also, the timeline of, like, how old these are. When you get to 5,000, 6,000 years, there's no ship left. All you have is, like, the pottery and whatever is on the ground at the bottom. And if you're talking about 10,000 years, 15,000 years, who's to say that that's not completely covered by sediment by then? And it probably would be.

   22. AGAJ Gentile1:01:47

       Well, you know, I watched a little of, um, of Zahi Hawass on, on here.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:51

       That's all you need, just a little-

   24. AGAJ Gentile1:01:52

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:52

       ... for that episode. You get it.

   26. AGAJ Gentile1:01:54

       I couldn't believe he was, he's still doing it. I mean, uh, I, he, maybe he was around when they actually built the things.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:59

       I think that was probably the best advertisement for alternative archeology you're ever gonna get, when you see the guy that's the gatekeeper and how closed-minded he is.

   28. AGAJ Gentile1:02:09

       He didn't mention the capstones, the f- the f- the limestone facing from Torre, he didn't even talk about it.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:14

       Well, also, this just saying it was the national project, and that's how they were able to get 80-ton stones 500 miles away through the mountains on sleds. Like, come on.

   30. AGAJ Gentile1:02:29

       The Aslan Stones are from 1,200 miles away.

Episode duration: 2:53:53