Joe Rogan Experience #2358 - Chadd Wright

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (Drums playing) Joe Rogan podcast.…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (Drums playing) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (Rock music plays)

   3. CWChadd Wright0:14

      Yeah, I do too, man. I chew tobacco pretty much since I was about 13 years old.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      (laughs)

   5. CWChadd Wright0:21

      But, you know, as you get older, you start to try to optimize everything because, uh, the world tells you everything's gonna kill you.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      Is chewing tobacco gonna kill you?

   7. CWChadd Wright0:32

      Well, you know-

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:34

      I've heard people getting mouth cancer.

   9. CWChadd Wright0:35

      ... a very bi- Yeah, that's the main thing is mouth cancer.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Yeah.

   11. CWChadd Wright0:38

       And it- it's pre- mouth cancer's pre- a pretty nasty form- all forms of cancer are pretty nasty, but mouth cancer can really screw you up. And I think it's the, uh, the, you know, like the chemicals that they spray on the tobacco when they're growing the tobacco. So I don't know, maybe if you grew tobacco organically and then you chewed it, it wouldn't give you mouth cancer.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       Probably makes sense.

   13. CWChadd Wright1:05

       I- I don't know.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Well, I was just reading something that 100% of California wines that they've tested had glyphosate on them, 100%.

   15. CWChadd Wright1:15

       Yeah, I believe it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       Which is just nuts.

   17. CWChadd Wright1:18

       You know, yeah, that stuff is everywhere. I mean, it's not-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       Everywhere.

   19. CWChadd Wright1:22

       It's never gonna go anywhere because, you know, uh, when I was in the Navy, I lived in Virginia, and we moved out to a rural community. And, um, they grew corn and soybeans primarily in the fields, and nothing else would grow in that dirt. Like, you could walk the rows of those crops, you know, and there would not be a single weed growing in the field. Nothing would grow except for the genetically modified seed or whatever they put out there.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:52

       Yeah.

   21. CWChadd Wright1:52

       You know what I mean? And how long does that stay in the soil? Like, does that ever come- can you ever get that out of the dirt so that other things could or would actually thrive there again? I- I guess after many, many years you could.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:06

       Yeah, it's many, many years. I had Will Harris from- he's from Georgia, uh, White Oaks Pastures. You ever heard of that guy?

   23. CWChadd Wright2:12

       I- I actually listened to that episode that you did with him, man, because I've ordered a- a pile of meat from them.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       He's great.

   25. CWChadd Wright2:18

       He is.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:19

       He's great.

   27. CWChadd Wright2:19

       That was a great episode.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:20

       And it's a great episode to educate people on like how much time it takes to take a- an industrial farm and convert it to regenerative agriculture.

   29. CWChadd Wright2:29

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:29

       It's not easy. It's a long grind, super costly, not nearly as profitable, and, you know, he did it over the course of 20 years. And we have two, uh, jars of soil out there that he gave us, and one of them is a soil from his neighbor's farm, which is an industrial farm, and the other one is his. And his is like a dark brown, rich, alive soil.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   It's a funny thing.…

   1. CWChadd Wright15:00

      aspect of it. That's a lot of fun. So not only are, do you have your best friend, you know, my little mountain cur, her name's Wendy, she stays in the house, she's my best friend, we hunt every day together, but, but now I get to breed her. I get to select a mate, and over the course, I'm hoping over the course of the next 30 years or so, I can breed in these specific characteristics of this type of dog that I value. And so that's fun, you know? Not only is the hunting fun, but the breeding is fun, the training's fun. Everything about it's fun. And you take a group of guys out squirrel hunting, man, and it's a blast, because you don't have to be quiet. Look, man, you just, you're out there in the woods on four-wheelers, everybody's got shotguns, you know, you get to the tree. Here's this dog just hammering a tree on this tree. "Bow, bow, bow, bow." Everybody surrounds the tree, and that squirrel gets nervous and he starts timbering out, going tree to tree, and you got five or six guys with shotguns blasting away, and everybody's cutting up and laughing. I mean, it's just a blast, dude. But that's my thing, you know?

   2. JRJoe Rogan16:11

      It's a funny thing. (laughs)

   3. CWChadd Wright16:11

      I like th-, I like the white, I like to hunt white tails, I like, I get to go on my first elk hunt this year.

   4. JRJoe Rogan16:17

      Oh, wow, where you going?

   5. CWChadd Wright16:18

      There's a, there's a, a, a family out in Utah. Uh, they, they own some ranch out there, I think it's called R5 Ranch, and they wanted to put a hunt on for a veteran. So they partnered with an outfitter called G3 Outfitters, and they bought a tag, and s- for some odd reason, they selected me as their veteran that they want to take out on an elk hunt.

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:44

      Wow.

   7. CWChadd Wright16:44

      Now, I've always wanted to elk hunt, man. I've just, you know, I've just never made it happen. There's a lot that goes into it, as you know.

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:50

      Yeah.

   9. CWChadd Wright16:51

      And so they're taking me to New Mexico. They bought a, some tag from a landowner, and, uh, they're going to take me out there elk hunting.

   10. JRJoe Rogan17:01

       That's a great spot. New Mexico's a great spot for elk.

   11. CWChadd Wright17:04

       He sent me some pictures of some of these bulls.

   12. JRJoe Rogan17:06

       Yeah.

   13. CWChadd Wright17:07

       I said, "What an animal."

   14. JRJoe Rogan17:10

       Yeah, and New Mexico's got some crazy genetics too. There's, uh, there's two, there's, there's a guy who explained this to me, that there's really two different, besides like Tule elk and Roosevelt elk, there's Rocky Mountain elk and then there's Yellowstone elk, and the Yellowstone elk are an older breed-

   15. CWChadd Wright17:28

       Hm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan17:29

       ... that has a larger antlers, a bigger animal, and you find a lot of those in, uh, Arizona, and you find a lot of those in New Mexico.

   17. CWChadd Wright17:37

       So where we're hunting at is right, it, it, is on the border of Arizona and New Mexico.

   18. JRJoe Rogan17:42

       Mm, yeah, so I bet you have great genetics out there.

   19. CWChadd Wright17:45

       You know what, man? I can't believe it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan17:47

       Yeah.

   21. CWChadd Wright17:47

       I, I can't believe this is the first pl- that my, gonna be my first elk hunt.

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:51

       Are you rifle or bow hunt?

   23. CWChadd Wright17:53

       It, it's gonna be rifle.

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:54

       Yeah.

   25. CWChadd Wright17:54

       Now, now I'm a big, I'm a big archery guy too, um, when I hunt white tails, when I started hunting white tails, that was what I did was bow hunt, and still bow hunt quite a bit, but, uh-

   26. JRJoe Rogan18:07

       I love it.

   27. CWChadd Wright18:07

       ... but this is a rifle hunt.

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:09

       I love rife- bowhunting. Uh, rifle hunting's great, and it's the most effesh- effective, most efficient way to hunt, but there's something about having to get inside, you know, 70, 80 yards-

   29. CWChadd Wright18:20

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan18:20

       ... sneaking up, executing a perfect shot.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Clay Newcomb. …

   1. CWChadd Wright30:00

      hunter. Steve's buddy's a big squirrel hunter. What's that guy called?

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      Clay Newcomb.

   3. CWChadd Wright30:04

      Clay Newcomb. Yeah-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Yeah, he's been on-

   5. CWChadd Wright30:04

      ... he's got a bunch of feist dogs. He ... I think he hunts off of mules.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      Yes.

   7. CWChadd Wright30:08

      I'll tell you what we oughta do. We oughta set up a big squirrel hunt with everybody. W- me, me and you and Clay and Cam and, and we'll just-

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      Okay.

   9. CWChadd Wright30:17

      We oughta set up a big squirrel hunt one weekend.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:20

       I've done ... I've had squirrel once.

   11. CWChadd Wright30:21

       I- it-

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       With Rinella. He cooked some squirrel up for us. It was good.

   13. CWChadd Wright30:23

       A- boy, if we could get him to come in and cook too, that would be outstanding. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       (laughs) It would be.

   15. CWChadd Wright30:27

       'Cause I have a hard time making this wild game taste, taste worth a flip, you know?

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       Do you?

   17. CWChadd Wright30:32

       I'm just not a good cook, man.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       I noticed that. Well, I was gonna talk to you about your steak cooking. We gotta work on that.

   19. CWChadd Wright30:37

       Yeah, I'm, I'm just not much of a cook, man.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       (laughs) I watched you cook a steak on a Traeger and I was like, "Listen-"

   21. CWChadd Wright30:43

       ... the way to cook a steak on a Traeger is, you can cook a steak on a Traeger. Like, you could t- cook, like, if you have a roast, like, you can cook a good roast on a Traeger. But the reality is, you need to be able to sear it, and so you can't really sear things on a Traeger. And I j- I saw what you did, you tried to turn the temperature up real high and then cook at the end. The key is getting it on a frying pan. Like, get it low and slow on the Traeger, uh, like 225 degrees with the SuperSmoke, get it nice and smoky. Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       Get it up to 120 degrees, and then cast iron f- skillet.

   23. CWChadd Wright31:15

       Okay.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       Get that motherfucker hot. Put some beef tallow in there and s- (searing sound) like, 90 seconds on each side.

   25. CWChadd Wright31:20

       Yeah, seals it up.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       Perfect.

   27. CWChadd Wright31:22

       Now, do you do most of your own cooking?

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:24

       Yeah, I do almost all my own cooking.

   29. CWChadd Wright31:25

       Okay.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:26

       Yeah. I cook a lot.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   About what's important? …

   1. CWChadd Wright45:00

      It will teach you so much, man.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      About what's important?

   3. CWChadd Wright45:04

      It has made me grow, like, I don't know, man. It just gives me the doggone chills thinking about it. And the crazy thing is, is the type of person I used to be, I woulda thought, you know, going and sitting with someone who's dying is a waste of time. Like, I got other things to do, right? You do too. We got busy lives. (sighs) Well, this man, he mentored me, uh, hunting and everything, working, all that. His name was Don Tidwell. From the time I was about 13 to the time I left to go become a Navy SEAL. Well, I did my whole Navy thing. I got out. I reconnected with Don for a while, but then I started this company now that we have, 3F7 Project. Got busy. I have a curse from my military service, is, is I have this unique ability to be able to forget you ever existed. Uh, when, when I, you know, when y- when I get on some sort of mission, and you're not part of that anymore, I can forget you ever existed. And so I lost touch with him because of my own selfishness, and been doing this thing for the last four or five years. Well, his wife called me and said, "Look, he just wants to see you one more time. He's got pancreatic cancer. He's got maybe two weeks left. He just wants to see you one more time." (exhales) Good night, man. Took a lot of courage for me to go show up in front of him, and sit down with him and say, "Mr. Don, I'm sorry I haven't been the friend to you that you deserve. Will you forgive me?" He's laying there dying. He looks back at me and says, "Son, there's nothing to forgive." I, I mean, just like ... A- and then from that point, I'd go sit with him twice a week for eight or nine or 10 hours, just sit right there by his bed. I'd read the scriptures to him. He only had a third-grade education. We read about the Gospel, and we read about the resurrection, and we read about creation and ... You know, we don't ... The first thing that you learn, I think, when you sit with somebody that's dying is that death is the great foe that, that sits above mankind and scoffs at our wisdom. You get what I'm saying?

   4. JRJoe Rogan47:51

      Yeah.

   5. CWChadd Wright47:51

      He, he s- the death is this great foe. It is the enemy that sits above us and mocks the wisdom of man. Uh, Mr. Don had c- built a, a, an e- basically an empire within the e- within the community he lived in. He had made millions and millions of dollars as an entrepreneur, couldn't read or write. But, um, he still had to succumb to this process that's coming for all of us. Like, I don't know, man, that was like ... That, that just hit me. Like, we think ... We wanna look up at the sky and we want to explain how the cosmos began, and we can't even solve our own biggest problem? We can't solve our own biggest problem. Which is death, right? It's the b- it's the biggest problem for all of us.

   6. JRJoe Rogan48:50

      Yeah.

   7. CWChadd Wright48:51

      We can't figure out how to solve it, how to overcome it. Like, we don't think about this enough. Like, have you ever thought, why are you dying? Have you ever thought about that?

   8. JRJoe Rogan49:08

      Sure.

   9. CWChadd Wright49:09

      Like, like, not ... Like, I get it. Like, all of us, we understand death as, you know, we go along through this life, but, and then something happens. We get hit by a car, one of our organs fail, cancer happens, whatever, and we say that killed us, right? And that thing did kill us, but your entire life is leading you to that point.Like, why do you have to die? Like, it's, it's by necessity you must die. Why? What's killing you? What, what are you, what's killing you?

   10. JRJoe Rogan49:44

       Well, age. Your body stops reproducing correctly, your cells don't reproduce correctly anymore.

   11. CWChadd Wright49:48

       So, why does that happen though?

   12. JRJoe Rogan49:50

       Well, every animal.

   13. CWChadd Wright49:50

       What's causing that?

   14. JRJoe Rogan49:52

       Every animal, almost every animal on this planet has a, a timeline that it exists in. It's probably, it's probably, uh, a natural function of keeping a balance. Like, all of nature has a balance.

   15. CWChadd Wright50:06

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan50:06

       And I mean, can you imagine if mosquitoes lived 1,000 years, what a fucking pain in the ass that would be? No, they get a couple but, you know, how long does a mosquito live? A week?

   17. CWChadd Wright50:15

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan50:15

       How long does a fly live? A week? Good. 'Cause, uh, otherwise we'd be fucked, you know? Or a deer, a good deer, a good deer that's like, the best days of its life, it's like, 13 years, it's done, it's over-

   19. CWChadd Wright50:26

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan50:26

       ... it's gonna, it, it's limping, it's gonna get torn apart by coyotes. Whatever gets it. Everything has a time because if it didn't then there'd be too many people.

   21. CWChadd Wright50:36

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan50:36

       There'd be too many animals.

   23. CWChadd Wright50:37

       The balance would be-

   24. JRJoe Rogan50:38

       The balance would be all fucked up.

   25. CWChadd Wright50:39

       Yeah. That's, that's a great answer, man. Like...

   26. JRJoe Rogan50:41

       The thing is, there's a lot of scientists that are working on that. A lot of scientists-

   27. CWChadd Wright50:44

       (clears throat)

   28. JRJoe Rogan50:44

       ... that I've talked to that are treating aging, uh, like a disease. So instead of just accepting the fact, like, "Oh, you're 50 now. Things are slowing down." Like, well, why are they slowing down and what can we do to reverse that?

   29. CWChadd Wright50:55

       I love thinking along those lines, man.

   30. JRJoe Rogan50:58

       Yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   Did you save it?…

   1. CWChadd Wright1:00:00

      thing. They're... And they're reaching for stuff and- and she's a hospice nurse, so I-

   2. NANarrator1:00:04

      Did you save it? Do you have it on your phone?

   3. CWChadd Wright1:00:06

      I- I don't... Nah, I don't have it. Uh, I don't remember. It's a y- she's got a lot of following. She's got a big following, just look up...

   4. NANarrator1:00:14

      Jamie will probably find her.

   5. CWChadd Wright1:00:15

      ... hospice nurse on Instagram or whatever, but she posts all these videos of these people.

   6. NANarrator1:00:20

      Is this her?

   7. CWChadd Wright1:00:21

      Yeah.

   8. NANarrator1:00:21

      Oh, they're reaching.

   9. CWChadd Wright1:00:22

      They're like calling out... I don't know if, uh, that's not her, but this is another one. That's not the one I watch.

   10. NANarrator1:00:30

       Calling it a death reach.

   11. CWChadd Wright1:00:31

       It's a very common thing, and they're calling out a lot of times the names of loved ones that have passed before them.

   12. NANarrator1:00:39

       Whoa.

   13. CWChadd Wright1:00:39

       They're seeing something, like the- they're seeing into the other realm. Oh, it's that lady on the far right over there, that's the one I watch. She's a little crazy but-

   14. NANarrator1:00:50

       (laughs)

   15. CWChadd Wright1:00:50

       ... I'm gonna go ahead and tell you, she puts out some wild stuff, man. This is common stuff, man.

   16. NANarrator1:00:56

       What's her name? What's her name, Jamie?

   17. NANarrator1:00:58

       Uh, it says below.

   18. NANarrator1:00:59

       It says below, "Hospice Nurse Penny."

   19. NANarrator1:01:00

       Happens weeks before their death, when they're able to tell us what they're seeing. When they're able to tell us about these visions, they're almost always above them or up in the corner of the room. But sometimes as they get closer to the end of life, and they're no longer able to communicate, we start seeing them reach into the air. So I'm convinced that when they are reaching into the air, they are reaching towards those people who they love who have died before them.

   20. CWChadd Wright1:01:28

       Uh-

   21. NANarrator1:01:28

       Whoa.

   22. CWChadd Wright1:01:28

       That- this woman's not a believer, and, uh, as far as I know. I- sh- I don't think, I don't know what her, you know, uh, what how her worldview is- is on in terms of what happens after this. But she's just sitting here showing you, saying, "Hey, this happens."

   23. NANarrator1:01:44

       Yeah.

   24. CWChadd Wright1:01:44

       "We can't figure out why. We can't figure out what's going on."Obviously, for me, when I see that happening, when Mr. Don sits up in the bed even though he's literally paralyzed by a stroke, he sits... it's- it's an impossibility. He sits up in his bed and reaches both hands in the air, and then lays down and departs the tent. Wh- what do I... I have to believe that, like, his transportation had arrived.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:02:20

       (laughs)

   26. CWChadd Wright1:02:20

       You know what I mean?

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:02:21

       Yeah.

   28. CWChadd Wright1:02:21

       And to witness that, how does that not, like, strengthen-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:25

       Yeah.

   30. CWChadd Wright1:02:26

       ... your- you're- you're witnessing something that's tangible. It's like, how does that not strengthen at least your faith that there is something-
6. 1:15:00 – 1:20:44

   We got plenty of…

   1. CWChadd Wright1:15:00

   2. NANarrator1:15:00

      We got plenty of time.

   3. CWChadd Wright1:15:01

      Basically, man, I, I got to my SEAL team and they had slotted our entire team to, uh, cover down on Africa and a couple other European countries, and, uh, I got so pissed 'cause I'm like, "There's a war happening." Like, that's the reason I joined. Like, everybody that joined wants to go and fight in this war, and here now I'm wind up at this place that's, you know, not gonna go where everybody wants to go. I got so hateful, and, uh, through the course of a couple of years, I just got involved in all manner of what I would call sin. All manner. Drunkenness, uh, sleeping around with women, hurting people on purpose. Hateful, terrible person. I didn't love anybody. And, uh, the, the, the whole down- the- what, what the downfall of it is I was overseas, I was on a- I- w- and we had a range day. The night before, I had went out and then just burned it down, son.

   4. NANarrator1:16:23

      (laughs)

   5. CWChadd Wright1:16:24

      I had no business going to the range that day, I'm gonna go ahead and tell you. But what do you do? You get up and go to the range, right? I'm sitting over there on the range, messing with my gun, pretty out of it, and I have a negligent discharge, and the guy that's standing beside me is my gunner's mate, and it barely skims him in the side of his leg.

   6. NANarrator1:16:47

      (exhales)

   7. CWChadd Wright1:16:48

      The- it was pointed down, thank God. Pointed down. That happened, and that was the thing that, like, like, stopped me in my tracks. Like, "Holy crap, Chad, if you keep going the way that you're going, you're gonna kill somebody." You know what I mean? I mean, I was involved in all manner of sin, buddy. Stopped me right there. I had to go through a trident review board, a, a disciplinary review board, a captain's mass, the whole nine yards. Luckily, I had a good enough reputation up to that point that I had guys that, that vouched for me, specifically my sea daddy, Jake Hubman. He, he, he wrote a whole long thing. "Chad's, Chad's done well. He's this is..." You know, this and that, and they presented that, and the Navy let me stay in, keep my trident. Well, went back home, moved in with some lesbians-

   8. NANarrator1:17:44

      (laughs)

   9. CWChadd Wright1:17:45

      ... still continuing on this, this path or this just trajectory of just ugliness, just hatefulness. You know what I mean? But I had kinda started hiding it a little more, (laughs) you know, while I was at work. I was like, "Okay, if I'm gonna have to go to work, I'm gonna have to square myself away a little bit." Um, you know, tell you how hateful I was, this man, Jake Hubman, my sea daddy, he, uh, um, he started struggling with alcoholism shortly after I had that big mistake. Well, I- I got back in the platoon and, uh, they told us, they said, "Well, you know, Jake's struggling with alcoholism. We're sending him off to this rehab program." They said, uh, "Just leave him alone." Well, remember I told you I can forget people exist? I just forgot he existed. A couple months later, he killed his self. That's what kind of friend I was. That's what kind of person I was. Here's this guy who... That's the kind of person that I still am sometimes today. What a, wha- there, there is, there's literally nothing good in me. I'm convinced of that. Here's this man who had poured so much into me, literally trained me up, taught me the ways of war. It's on account of his mentorship probably that I was able to stay alive throughout the course of my career, and I just turned my back on him when he was going through the hardest time of his life. He kills his self. I don't ever get to make that up. I just ignored him. Uh, that's the kind of- does this describe to you the type of person that I was?

   10. NANarrator1:19:24

       Yeah, for sure.

   11. CWChadd Wright1:19:24

       That's pretty bad, ain't it, brother? I mean, that's pretty bad. That's pretty ugly.

   12. NANarrator1:19:28

       Understandably selfish given the circumstances.

   13. CWChadd Wright1:19:31

       So I get back in a platoon, get ready, deploy again. I'm keeping my wickedness c- under control, you know, outwardly, but it's still all there, man. Well, we go up to Tunisia and North Africa, and Arabs attacked the embassy up there when all that Benghazi and that stuff went down. Uh, it happened all over North Africa. So we went up there, re-secured the embassy. We came back. We left there and came back to Germany.... to re-jock our equipment because that mission was over in Tunisia. Came back to Germany to re-jock and then we were going out to Nigeria. And while we were in Germany, the only way for me to tell you this in- in just simple terms is we were staying in a barracks that was inhabited by some sort of demon. And that is, that was the genesis of my conversion, (laughs) of me being made aware that... Okay.

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