Joe Rogan Experience #2443 - Filippo Biondi

1. 0:00 – 0:02

   Intro

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2. 0:02 – 1:05

   Why this matters: satellite scans that could rewrite pyramid history

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

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   2. FBFilippo Biondi0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

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   4. FBFilippo Biondi0:13

      Fine, thank you.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Thank you very much for being here. I'm really excited to talk to you. Uh, obviously, there's been an amazing amount of interest and controversy because of your work. Uh, we should explain to everybody right off the bat what this is about. You are the man that was at the head of this research that is looking at structures that are underneath the bottom of the pyramid, and, uh, incredibly controversial, very fascinating, and if it's accurate, it essentially rewrites all of human history.

   6. FBFilippo Biondi0:46

      Yes. Uh, thank you for, uh, this invitation, and, uh, yes, the group is composed by Corrado Malanga, which is the head of the group, and, uh, uh, dean professor of ch- chemistry at University of Pisa. Uh-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:02

      Can you explain your background, please, so people-

   8. FBFilippo Biondi1:04

      Yes

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:04

      ... understand? Yeah.

3. 1:05 – 3:37

   Biondi’s background: telecom engineer, PhD, and radar work

   1. FBFilippo Biondi1:05

      Yes, my background is, uh, this, I am a telecommunication engineering. I graduate, uh, at the university-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:11

      What is that word again? Say it again.

   3. FBFilippo Biondi1:12

      Telecommunication engineering.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:13

      Telecommunications engineering.

   5. FBFilippo Biondi1:14

      Yes.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:14

      Okay.

   7. FBFilippo Biondi1:15

      Yes.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:15

      It's like, your, your English is excellent, but the Italian accent, although fabulous, sometimes it's [chuckles] difficult to translate.

   9. FBFilippo Biondi1:22

      Thank you very much, Joe. Uh, I'm sorry, yes, that I'm not mother tongue of English, but-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       It's still m- much better than my Italian. [laughing]

   11. FBFilippo Biondi1:29

       [chuckles] Okay, thank you. Yes, I graduated myself in, uh, university, at the University of Lecce, south of Italy. Uh, very nice university, and, uh, it, it was, uh, uh, it is, uh, uh, has the name of a famous, uh, mathematic, mathematic Italian, uh, which is Ennio de Giorgi. Uh, Ennio de Giorgi, um, was, uh, living in the era than John Nash was living also, and they, uh, were, they were one against to the other, and, uh, they were, they was, uh, both, um, studying the 19 Hilbert prob- problem, and John Na- um, Ennio de Giorgi solved this pro- this problem one week before John Nash.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:21

       Ah, interesting.

   13. FBFilippo Biondi2:22

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:22

       John Nash, who, from the famous movie-

   15. FBFilippo Biondi2:24

       Yes

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:24

       ... Brilliant Mind.

   17. FBFilippo Biondi2:25

       Yes.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:25

       Russell Crowe.

   19. FBFilippo Biondi2:26

       Yes.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:26

       Yeah.

   21. FBFilippo Biondi2:27

       And so, uh, then I performed my PhD at, uh, La Sapienza in Rome, uh, and now I'm here.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:35

       And how did you get involved in this, this discovery?

   23. FBFilippo Biondi2:39

       Yes. Um, I worked, uh, on radar and synthetic aperture r- radar for a lot of time. Um, a radar-

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:48

       For the Italian military-

   25. FBFilippo Biondi2:50

       Yeah

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:50

       ... right?

   27. FBFilippo Biondi2:50

       Yes.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:50

       Some work.

   29. FBFilippo Biondi2:51

       Yes, yes, some work.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:51

       Which you can't really talk about.
4. 3:37 – 5:23

   How the method works: using satellite SAR + Doppler to infer underground structure

   1. FBFilippo Biondi3:37

      Yes, it is, uh, something, in my personal opinion, very simple. Uh, the radar is, uh, installed on board on the satellite. The satellite, uh, flies, uh, at, in the space, uh, at a distance of 600 kilometers, uh, at, uh, seven, uh, kilometers per second in velocity. So while, uh, it flies, uh, along the orbit, it is, um, able to catch snapshots of the Earth. The snapshots has to be focused, and this focusing procedure, let's say it, in the azimuth, I take it easy, in the azimuth direction, is done by sound, by the processing of sound, because, uh, it is involved the so-called Doppler frequency. Uh, you know, Joe, when, uh, you hear noises that are approaching to you, the, this noise will rise the frequency because it- the, the target has a velocity, a positive velocity with respect to you, and so the frequencies rises up. And this procedure, uh, allow us to estimate or to, to grab, let's say, the, um, um, vibration information that is always present at the surface of the Earth in terms of evanescent waves that are present on the surface of the Earth. So this vibe- vibration, which is mechanical vibration, uh, carries inside of this, the, the, the information that is located underground, and so we did this.

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:13

      And was it a specific idea... Was it the, the idea specifically to look under the pyramids, or was this something that was discovered accidentally?

5. 5:23 – 7:22

   From Khufu to Giza-wide: the research timeline (2018–2020)

   1. FBFilippo Biondi5:23

      Okay, yes. Uh, once, uh, we discovered, I, uh, we discovered this, uh, this method, uh, it was a coincidence that I knew Corrado Malanga. And at the time, I speak- I'm, we are in 2018, he was studying the pyramids. And so we were talking, uh, about, uh, something that, uh, if, if there was some methods able to scan inside the pyramids, because he needed some information to, to, to conclude the, the research that he was doing.... and so, uh, I proposed him to use my technique, uh, and, uh, we started to work together, and so we focused at in that time on the pyramids.

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:11

      And wh- wh- when was this, uh, when was the first scans?

   3. FBFilippo Biondi6:16

      Uh, yes, in 2019.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:19

      In 2019?

   5. FBFilippo Biondi6:20

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:20

      And when you got the data back, did you immediately get the data that you're showing today, where you see the columns with the coils around it?

   7. FBFilippo Biondi6:28

      Okay. Uh, in- let's say that this research is, can be divided by two. The first one, 1.0, uh, we were concentrating research on the Khu- uh, Khnum Khufu Pyramid, the Cheops Pyramid, to watch inside the pyramid. And so we have, uh, detailed, tailored our processing to watch only inside the pyramids. Because that pyramid, only one pyramid, because we were, uh, doing that kind of research. Then once we, uh, discovered things in 2020, we published, uh, the peer review paper, and, uh, we gave, uh, public the rese- the results that we found in inside the Khun- Khnum Khufu Pyramid, we decided to expand our, um, research in all the G- the Giza Plateau.

6. 7:22 – 8:22

   Internal validation: detecting known chambers and features inside Khufu

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:22

      Can I stop you there? The, th- when you looked ins- so we know quite a bit about the Khufu Pyramid-

   2. FBFilippo Biondi7:27

      Yeah

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:27

      ... and what the chambers are inside of it. Did this technology accurately describe the pyramid itself and the insides of it, the chambers that we know exist?

   4. FBFilippo Biondi7:36

      Absolutely, yes.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:38

      S-

   6. FBFilippo Biondi7:38

      Because we have detected, uh, this, uh, multi-layer structure that is inside the Khnum Khufu Pyramid, the so-called Zed. We have discovered it, uh, uh, very well from the space, and it is located inside the pyramid. And also, we discovered that the new-- we, no, we discovered it. We, we, um, uh, we gave an image also, of, of the other known structures, like the Gran, the Grand Gallery.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:07

      The Gra- the Grand Gallery.

   8. FBFilippo Biondi8:08

      The Grand Gallery. And then also the Queen's Chamber and the King's Chamber also, so.

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:16

      And accurate in terms-

   10. FBFilippo Biondi8:18

       Yes

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:18

       ... of size and dimension?

   12. FBFilippo Biondi8:20

       And also position and location.

7. 8:22 – 10:39

   Going deeper: first sighting of the columns/spirals and months of skepticism

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:22

      Okay. So when did you decide to focus below the pyramid?

   2. FBFilippo Biondi8:27

      Yes. Uh, we decided to focus below the pyramid, uh, because we, uh, we were, uh, our intention was to expand our, um, research. And then also, thanks, uh, to the third component of the research group, which is Armando Mei, uh, he suggest us to expand our research and scan all the Giza Plateau.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:52

      And so what, what date was it that you discovered these immense columns with the coils around it-

   4. FBFilippo Biondi8:59

      Yeah

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:59

      ... and all those structures that are underneath the pyramid?

   6. FBFilippo Biondi9:01

      Yes. In the second part of, of our research, we, uh, started focusing our scans on the Khafre Pyramid, and, uh, like Khnum Khufu. And then we adjust our algorithms to go deeper, and so when we did this, uh, very nice things, uh, uh, be- began to, to appear on our results.

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:30

      What, what did you feel when you first saw those images that do appear to be immense columns? Uh, I believe they're, uh, the diameter is 20 meters?

   8. FBFilippo Biondi9:42

      20 meters. 20 meters.

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:43

      So they're huge-

   10. FBFilippo Biondi9:44

       Yes

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:44

       ... enormous columns.

   12. FBFilippo Biondi9:45

       Yes.

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:46

       What, what, what went through your mind when-

   14. FBFilippo Biondi9:48

       Skepticism. Skepticism. I told for, uh, also Corrado, uh, was with me, because, uh, w- we had those results for, uh, in our, um, desk without, uh, disclosure or anything for six months. Because my, my opinion was that was not real. Mm, I, uh, I did, I w- was thinking that, uh, maybe it was noise or some artifacts due, due by our, uh, processing, uh, procedures.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:27

       Did it give you pause at all that they were so uniform, that these columns were in very specific places, and that they, they lined up, there was an, a uniform gap in between them?

8. 10:39 – 17:11

   Replication and scale: 200+ scans, multiple satellite systems, and resistance

   1. FBFilippo Biondi10:39

      Yes. And, uh, uh, why we disclosure this? Because we started to use also other satellites. And, uh, once we, uh... At, at the beginning, we were using only the Italian, uh, satellite system, that is, it is COSMO-SkyMed and COSMO-SkyMed Second Generation. It's very good, very precise. But, uh, we wanted to shift, uh, our research using also other satellites, because, Joe, in research, when we have diversity, diversity is a good thing because it confirms other things that, uh, we, uh, were, uh, searching. We were searching confirmation, confirmation. So once we had the same results, uh, while we were, uh, we was using, uh, uh, American satellites, uh, called the Capella Space and also, and also other satellites, having always the same results, we decided to disclosure.

   2. JRJoe Rogan11:36

      How many different scans have been done on this area?

   3. FBFilippo Biondi11:40

      Two or three hund- two, more than 200.

   4. JRJoe Rogan11:43

      More than 200?

   5. FBFilippo Biondi11:44

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan11:44

      And all with uniform results?

   7. FBFilippo Biondi11:46

      Yes.

   8. JRJoe Rogan11:47

      Wow!

   9. FBFilippo Biondi11:48

      Yes.

   10. JRJoe Rogan11:49

       There's a lot of resistance to this, and it's from the usual characters, and it's from people that I would characterize as gatekeepers of archaeological information. And, um, unfortunately, they are not-... willing to approach this with an open mind, and you see this skepticism, that just seems to me to be confirmation bias. They, they want this to not be true, regardless of the sheer number of scans and the uniformity of the results of these scans. And also the fact that this stuff has been proven to work on other things. Like, didn't you guys use this exact technology to get the exact dimensions of a particle collider that you have?

   11. FBFilippo Biondi12:37

       Yes. Yes.

   12. JRJoe Rogan12:37

       Yeah.

   13. FBFilippo Biondi12:37

       We have a particle collider wh- where I have born, in L'Aquila, which is located in the center of Italy, at the center of Italy. Um, there is a huge mountain called Gran Sasso, the Gran Sasso d'Italia, which is, uh, uh, has a maximum altitude of about, uh, 3,000 meters. For being precise, 2,993 meters. And so, um, there, there is a, a tunnel, very, very long tunnel, about, uh, 11, 12 kilometers, and, uh, in the core of this mountain, there is a particle collider. There is a laboratory, let's say it like that.

   14. JRJoe Rogan13:20

       And this technology got the exact dimensions of this particle collider that's-

   15. FBFilippo Biondi13:26

       Absolutely

   16. JRJoe Rogan13:26

       ... deep in this mountain?

   17. FBFilippo Biondi13:27

       Yes.

   18. JRJoe Rogan13:28

       Okay.

   19. FBFilippo Biondi13:28

       At, uh, uh, 1.4 kilometers with respect to the top.

   20. JRJoe Rogan13:33

       Wow!

   21. FBFilippo Biondi13:33

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:34

       Okay. So we know it's accurate, we know it works.

   23. FBFilippo Biondi13:37

       Yes.

   24. JRJoe Rogan13:37

       What do you think it is-- I mean, other than what I said, that i- it's gatekeepers of archaeological information. It's people that don't want to admit that there's perhaps m- um, a quite a bit bigger mystery than just the pyramids themselves. What i- what, what is-- what do you think it is that is causing this resistance?

   25. FBFilippo Biondi13:56

       Uh, uh, personally, it's true, we found a lot of resistance. Yes, it's true, but personally, I don't know why. Uh, I can say something, uh, regarding to my personal opinion. Uh, Joe, it is something that maybe is too big, too, too huge to, to be disclosured like that today. I don't know why.

   26. JRJoe Rogan14:20

       It's confusing to people-

   27. FBFilippo Biondi14:21

       Yes

   28. JRJoe Rogan14:21

       ... 'cause it, it's, it's essentially paradigm-shattering. Because the pyramids themselves are absolutely spectacular. The Great Pyramid is 2,300,000 stones.

   29. FBFilippo Biondi14:33

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan14:33

       Uh, the, the alignment is to perfect true nows, true north, south, east, and west. It's a really incredible accomplishment, whoever built it and when they built it. It's just as undeniably fascinating that this was done at the, the very least 2500 BC, probably even older than that.
9. 17:11 – 25:38

   Reading the imagery: tomography, 3D reconstructions, coils, and mega-chambers

   1. FBFilippo Biondi17:11

      Yes, I agree with you, Joe, because, uh, what we found, it is something that, uh, is- has been confirmed by, by our measurements. And at the moment, I suppose that our measurements are the only, are the only data that, uh, we have because there aren't other da- other data. So, uh, what we are w- uh, observing, we are, we are observing principally vertical structure. These vertical structures has a, a pattern, a regular pattern, and this regular pattern is, uh, um, uh, constituted by a so-called spiral nature. I found this, and, uh-

   2. JRJoe Rogan17:52

      Okay, so what are we looking at here? These are-

   3. SPSpeaker17:55

      Oh, that's the right one.

   4. FBFilippo Biondi17:56

      Yes.

   5. SPSpeaker17:57

      Yeah. Okay.

   6. FBFilippo Biondi17:59

      Yes, that is the Khafre pyramid. And you see, Joe, at the top of the tomography, the tomography is, uh, on the x, uh, the- so the horizontal dimension, we have the space.... okay?

   7. JRJoe Rogan18:11

      Mm-hmm.

   8. FBFilippo Biondi18:11

      Space adjust, uh, the range. And on the vertical, we have the depth.

   9. JRJoe Rogan18:17

      Okay.

   10. FBFilippo Biondi18:18

       Okay? On the top, we have, uh, the s- um, uh, the, the, the pyramid you see. You see the pyramid on the top?

   11. JRJoe Rogan18:25

       Mm-hmm.

   12. FBFilippo Biondi18:26

       And while you go down, you are observing the structures that are going down, and look, you have the spiral nature of the, of the, of the structures.

   13. JRJoe Rogan18:38

       Okay, this is not the clearest image that I've seen, so what are s- l- let me see some other images.

   14. SPSpeaker18:43

       Um, well-

   15. JRJoe Rogan18:46

       'Cause this is just one, right?

   16. SPSpeaker18:48

       Yeah, I know, that's what... This is from his presentation, and I didn't know where to get the best image from it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:53

       Okay, back up one. So-

   18. FBFilippo Biondi18:55

       Go, go. Okay, again. We have a lot of, uh, images here that, uh-

   19. JRJoe Rogan19:01

       Mm-hmm

   20. FBFilippo Biondi19:01

       ... that, uh, is recasting all the, uh, the research that we have done together.

   21. JRJoe Rogan19:07

       So the images that are going around online that people have seen are these 3D replicate- pull up some more of those.

   22. SPSpeaker19:15

       Yeah, yeah, I was gonna get them off the web, off the-

   23. JRJoe Rogan19:16

       Okay. Um, some of the images online, of, are recreations of what it, uh, is observed and what you believe this could-

   24. FBFilippo Biondi19:24

       Mm

   25. JRJoe Rogan19:24

       ... look like underneath, correct?

   26. FBFilippo Biondi19:26

       [chuckles] Uh, we have performed measurements, and they, they are sound measurements that are, that has been picked up from the surface of the Earth by satellites. So they are very precise, and they are coherent. Uh, coherent, it means that contains a lot of information, so it is, uh, uh, characterized to have high entropy. And so when we perform the so-called tomographic inversion, we can see what there is underneath.

   27. JRJoe Rogan19:59

       Okay, so this is a recreation of what you believe it looks like?

   28. FBFilippo Biondi20:06

       Yes.

   29. JRJoe Rogan20:06

       And how are you getting that from the image that's below that?

   30. FBFilippo Biondi20:10

       Okay.
10. 25:38 – 40:48

    The ‘natural entrance’ plan: shafts near the Sphinx down to ~600m, corridors, and robots

    1. FBFilippo Biondi25:38

       Yes, this is very important. If you want, I can, I can tell you-

    2. JRJoe Rogan25:41

       Yes, please

    3. FBFilippo Biondi25:42

       ... about this. Okay, uh, because it is, uh, uh, the, a very important, um, project, research project that, uh, I am working now, and it is something that if could be possible, we can go there, and, uh, without digging anything, we can go below. Why? Because, uh, belonging between the Sphinx and the Khafre pyramid, there are some shafts, and there, there are the photos of the shafts, where we can go in situ, and we can, uh, physically go there and see, and, uh, watch those shafts. Currently, the shafts are blocked by debris, and there is also rubbish inside. So we, uh, I performed, I performed a lot of scans at, at those shafts. And you see, Joe, the sha- the, the shafts goes down, down, down, down, and they reach chambers that are below.

    4. JRJoe Rogan26:50

       And that is the doc- Doppler tomography readings?

    5. FBFilippo Biondi26:53

       Yes, yes.

    6. JRJoe Rogan26:53

       So these shafts go down-- How far do they go down?

    7. FBFilippo Biondi26:56

       Yes, they go down at approximately 600 meters.

    8. JRJoe Rogan27:00

       Six hundred meters?

    9. FBFilippo Biondi27:02

       Yes.

    10. JRJoe Rogan27:02

        Wow!

    11. FBFilippo Biondi27:03

        Yes.

    12. JRJoe Rogan27:03

        So 600 meters down-

    13. FBFilippo Biondi27:05

        Yeah

    14. JRJoe Rogan27:05

        ... and then they reach a chamber?

    15. FBFilippo Biondi27:06

        Yes.

    16. JRJoe Rogan27:07

        What is the conventional explanation for these shafts? Is there one? Like, what is-

    17. FBFilippo Biondi27:12

        Okay

    18. JRJoe Rogan27:12

        ... what do, what do current archaeologists, what does academia, what do they think these things are? Leave that right there for a second.

    19. FBFilippo Biondi27:18

        Yes. Yes, this is the complete, uh, 3D model that me and Corrado did. And, uh, so to, uh, observe all the structures that we have find, that we found, um, evaluating, uh, the tomographies that we have done on the Giza Plateau.

    20. JRJoe Rogan27:39

        So it's not just under the Great Pyramid, it's under all three pyramids.

    21. FBFilippo Biondi27:44

        And also the Sphinx.

    22. JRJoe Rogan27:45

        And also the Sphinx.

    23. FBFilippo Biondi27:46

        Yes.

    24. JRJoe Rogan27:46

        And they all seem to go-- Do they go down to a uniform depth?

    25. FBFilippo Biondi27:51

        Uh, uh, we found at the moment, the same depth, yes.

    26. JRJoe Rogan27:57

        And they all have chambers at the bottom?

    27. FBFilippo Biondi28:00

        Yes, absolutely. Yes, and that's the, the, the, in my personal opinion, my n- the, the next thing that, uh, that we are dealing. At the end of the structures of these tubes that are going down, there are, um, huge, uh, chambers.

    28. JRJoe Rogan28:18

        How huge?

    29. FBFilippo Biondi28:19

        Uh, as I told you before, 80 meters times 80 meters, and times 80 meters of height.

    30. JRJoe Rogan28:26

        And that's uniform underneath all the pyramids-
11. 40:48 – 50:33

    Project proposal logistics: Egyptian permissions, partners, cost, and tourism integration

    1. JRJoe Rogan40:48

       And is there plans to do that in person, to do some sort of a, a excavation?

    2. FBFilippo Biondi40:54

       Yes. Um, I, uh, wr- uh, wrote a project proposal, which is a research and also not research, a proposal. And, uh, is now, um... We, we are, uh, our intention is to submit this proposal at the Egyptian authorities. If you want, I can explain you this, uh, proposal.

    3. JRJoe Rogan41:20

       Please.

    4. FBFilippo Biondi41:21

       Um, we are involving University of Ferrara, um, a principal scientist, Professor Savaccaro, uh, a Italian professor in, uh... She's a geologist. Um, and other, uh, and other governmental, Italian governmental, uh, inst- institutions that are very clever to do scans, in situ scans. So we are not using my, my technique. We use the state-of-the-art technique that it is re- uh, recognized by science today. And, um, uh, our, uh, intention is to, uh, concentrate the efforts on those shafts that I sh- that I showed you, that we, we, we have seen, because, uh, we are co- we are not ninety, ninety-nine percent convinced that, or sure, that those, those are natural entrance into the-... the, uh, the structures that are below, that are-

    5. JRJoe Rogan42:28

       Mm

    6. FBFilippo Biondi42:28

       ... located below. Because we have the vertical structures, and you saw on the to- on the tomographies, you have also horizontal connections.

    7. JRJoe Rogan42:38

       So there's corridors?

    8. FBFilippo Biondi42:39

       Yes, you have ver-

    9. JRJoe Rogan42:40

       And how large are these corridors?

    10. FBFilippo Biondi42:42

        Uh, about, uh... They, they are tall, about three meters tall.

    11. JRJoe Rogan42:48

        Okay.

    12. FBFilippo Biondi42:48

        Corridors.

    13. JRJoe Rogan42:48

        So about nine feet tall?

    14. FBFilippo Biondi42:50

        Yes, yes. That ca- that will, uh, w- uh, using these corridors, you, uh, will arrive directly inside the, the, the coils that we are, that we are, uh, uh, um, visualizing, uh, that we, uh, vi- visualize, uh, before.

    15. JRJoe Rogan43:09

        So there's passages and shafts-

    16. FBFilippo Biondi43:12

        Yes

    17. JRJoe Rogan43:12

        ... and these, uh, enormous ways that they can go back and forth-

    18. FBFilippo Biondi43:17

        Yes

    19. JRJoe Rogan43:17

        ... in between these various structures.

    20. FBFilippo Biondi43:19

        The thing that we have to do now is to clean those shafts. We have to do, uh, cleaning, because now, uh, they are, um-

    21. JRJoe Rogan43:27

        Sand-

    22. FBFilippo Biondi43:28

        Yeah

    23. JRJoe Rogan43:28

        ... debris.

    24. FBFilippo Biondi43:28

        There's debris. Yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan43:30

        Yeah. And, um, w- is there a timeline on when you would like to start cleaning these shafts and start doing this kind of stuff?

    26. FBFilippo Biondi43:38

        Yes. It depends when we submit the project. The project is ready. Uh, I know, uh, people that, uh, are living in, uh, in um, uh, in Egypt, that when we are ready, we can submit the project proposal. Then we are, we are at, uh, when the government will, if, if approve the project, we can start.

    27. JRJoe Rogan44:00

        Now, I would imagine that something like this, something of this scale, would require, uh, enormous funding.

    28. FBFilippo Biondi44:05

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan44:06

        And how do you, uh, how do you hope to acquire that?

    30. FBFilippo Biondi44:10

        We [chuckles] we can make, um, we can say, uh, people that this, this work is not for me, but it's for humans. And so people, uh, we, we, we ask people to help us in, uh, getting money to perform the work.
12. 50:33 – 1:02:11

    Inside Khufu again: ‘Zed’ multilayer device, vibration filtering, and the granite box hypothesis

    1. FBFilippo Biondi50:33

       Yes. This is, uh, the Zed. This is, uh... Ah, Mario Binkerle. Mario Binkerle was, um, a researcher, uh, that he died, uh, the, the, on 2011, uh, '12. And, uh, he, uh, was studying the Zed, which is the multilayer, uh, monument. Let's call it a monument, but it's not a monument because it, it has a certain and very precise function that is, uh, inside the pyramid. This is the Khufu pyramid.

    2. JRJoe Rogan51:05

       And this is the, uh, outlined image in the lower left-hand corner.

    3. FBFilippo Biondi51:10

       Yeah, that's the tomography-

    4. JRJoe Rogan51:11

       Yes

    5. FBFilippo Biondi51:11

       ... that we, that we have retrieved. Look, it's very precise.

    6. JRJoe Rogan51:13

       Right.

    7. FBFilippo Biondi51:14

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan51:14

       It looks exactly like what-

    9. FBFilippo Biondi51:15

       Exactly

    10. JRJoe Rogan51:15

        ... it looks like in the actual image. What is that thing? What is the f- what do you think the function of that thing is?

    11. FBFilippo Biondi51:20

        Yes. Uh, the function is, uh, um, is, is this: uh, uh, it is, uh, you, you see on the top of the structure, there is something like a-

    12. JRJoe Rogan51:31

        Like a cap.

    13. FBFilippo Biondi51:32

        Yes.

    14. JRJoe Rogan51:32

        Yeah.

    15. FBFilippo Biondi51:32

        Like a cap. Uh, that cap, uh, is, has a, a precise function, to at- attract, attract the inf- the, the vibration. Okay? It's an antenna in the, in the vibration domain. Okay?

    16. JRJoe Rogan51:54

        Antenna in the vibration-

    17. FBFilippo Biondi51:56

        An antenna

    18. JRJoe Rogan51:56

        ... domain.

    19. FBFilippo Biondi51:56

        Yes.

    20. JRJoe Rogan51:57

        Okay.

    21. FBFilippo Biondi51:57

        At- attract the, the energy in terms of, uh, mechanical vibration and propagates them below. There are other slides, please. Okay, uh, here I did a simulation. Uh, now I'm sorry because I don't have the video because this is a PDF, but, uh, I, I, um, uh, reproduced the function of the Zed on the computer. Okay?

    22. JRJoe Rogan52:27

        Okay.

    23. FBFilippo Biondi52:28

        And look, on the right side, we have all the vibrations that interacts one to each other, to each layer. Look.

    24. JRJoe Rogan52:38

        Mm-hmm.

    25. FBFilippo Biondi52:38

        And you can see that each layer, h- look how strange it is. Each layer, on the top of each layer, it is scattered. Look-

    26. JRJoe Rogan52:49

        Okay

    27. FBFilippo Biondi52:49

        ... on the top of the each layer, and the bottom is very flat. It's flat.

    28. JRJoe Rogan52:54

        Mm-hmm.

    29. FBFilippo Biondi52:54

        So what is that? It is something related to filter. It is a, it is a low-pass filter, um, m- uh, made by stones. [chuckles] Very crazy, this. That's a low-pass filter.

    30. JRJoe Rogan53:07

        A low-pass filter.
13. 1:02:11 – 1:45:05

    Dating and cataclysm: Zep Tepi, flood evidence, salt on walls, and Younger Dryas links

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:02:11

       How old do you think they are?

    2. FBFilippo Biondi1:02:14

       Yes, so yes, on the... Sorry, the, the Italian, the start of it. [laughing] I start speaking Italian.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:02:21

       No, it's okay. It's okay.

    4. FBFilippo Biondi1:02:22

       [laughing] Eh, the, the thing that, uh, uh, we can say for certainly is that the pyramids are older than the dates that are written on the, uh, typical, uh, history books. So to see something that-- uh, to say something very precisely, we have to go back in time, uh, into the Zep Tepi.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:02:53

       Mm-hmm.

    6. FBFilippo Biondi1:02:53

       So that's thir- more than ten thirty-six, uh, thousands years ago, uh, something happened to the Earth. So, uh, the Zep Tepi, uh, be- began, and in a time belonging, the Zep Tepi and the Great Flood were built the pyramid, the pyramids.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:03:15

       So, like, what-- I'm sending you something, Jamie, that's very interesting.

    8. FBFilippo Biondi1:03:19

       Yes.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:03:20

       Um, so do you have an id- do you, do you have an estimation? Like, what, what is your personal belief?

    10. FBFilippo Biondi1:03:26

        Yes. Uh, we can't say exactly the year.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:03:31

        So Zep Tepi, let's, let's explain to people what that is, since we're, uh, um, I sometimes forget. Zep Tepi is the thing that I d- described to Zahi Hawass-

    12. FBFilippo Biondi1:03:41

        Yes

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:03:41

        ... and he dismissed it. "What is this? I've never heard of this." [clears throat] It's an ancient kings list.

    14. FBFilippo Biondi1:03:47

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:03:48

        And it's a list of pharaohs that goes back past 30,000 years.

    16. FBFilippo Biondi1:03:51

        Yes.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:03:51

        And, um, it's very inconvenient for modern academics, and so they like to portray it as myth. And then when it gets to the age of historically accurate pharaohs that we know of, Khufu and Khafre, then they allow those hieroglyphs.

    18. FBFilippo Biondi1:04:10

        Yes.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:04:11

        But when you get all the way back to the 30,000 years ago, they like to say that that's just mythology.

    20. FBFilippo Biondi1:04:16

        Yes, it's true. Uh, but it is a matter of fact, uh, the Zep Tepi. We have, uh, uh, um, we have also, uh, other ancient megalithics that are very old, recognized very old.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:04:29

        Yes.

    22. FBFilippo Biondi1:04:30

        So, uh, we, we have to deal with that.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:04:32

        Well, Gobekli Tepe was a big problem.

    24. FBFilippo Biondi1:04:33

        Gobekli Tepe is a big problem also.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:04:35

        More than 11,000 years old-

    26. FBFilippo Biondi1:04:36

        Yeah

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:04:36

        ... for sure.

    28. FBFilippo Biondi1:04:37

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:04:38

        Yeah.

    30. FBFilippo Biondi1:04:39

        And as we saw, uh-
14. 1:45:05 – 1:58:21

    Beyond Giza: scanning other megalithic sites and global ‘satellite archaeology’

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:45:05

       This is Sacsayhuaman, right?

    2. FBFilippo Biondi1:45:06

       Sacsayhuaman, yes. This is Sacsayhuaman, and, uh, here I am, uh, showing you the next, uh, work that we, uh, can do, uh, once the Giza scanning, uh, activity are finished.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:45:20

       So this is in Peru, correct?

    4. FBFilippo Biondi1:45:23

       Yeah. Yes.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:45:23

       And so you want to scan this as well, because, uh-

    6. FBFilippo Biondi1:45:26

       Yes

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:45:26

       ... you know, we've had quite a few people on Describe This, uh-

    8. FBFilippo Biondi1:45:29

       Yes. Look, Joe, the stones are like mash- marshmallows.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:45:33

       Yes.

    10. FBFilippo Biondi1:45:34

        They are like marshmallows. How they did those, those-

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:45:39

        Right

    12. FBFilippo Biondi1:45:39

        ... those things there?

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:45:40

        Enormous.

    14. FBFilippo Biondi1:45:41

        Enormous.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:45:41

        Some of them 100 tons, carved from stones that, uh, who knows how they put them into position, but they carved them in this very strange way to absorb the impact of earthquakes, right?

    16. FBFilippo Biondi1:45:53

        Yes. Yes.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:45:54

        The idea of this technology is-

    18. FBFilippo Biondi1:45:56

        Yeah

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:45:56

        ... that the reason why they're like a puzzle piece is because it, it would be much less likely to move in an intense earthquake.

    20. FBFilippo Biondi1:46:03

        Okay. Go back a little bit. Uh, uh, Gubbio, uh, just a few words on, uh, this, uh, city. That is a small town that is located in Perugia, where I live. Uh, look, um, uh, the, the Italian, the authority of this, of the city, of the town, uh, asked me to perform a scanning around that coliseum, that mini coliseum that is, uh, located in Gubbio, because probably there is a huge Roman, uh, city. Not so old, but it is a Roman city that compounds that, uh, arena that is there.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:46:45

        Hmm, so a lost Roman city that's around that area?

    22. FBFilippo Biondi1:46:49

        Yes, yes.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:46:51

        And-

    24. FBFilippo Biondi1:46:51

        And I say hello to the people of Gubbio. [laughing]

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:46:54

        [chuckles] So is this the next thing that you're going to do?

    26. FBFilippo Biondi1:46:57

        Uh-

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:46:58

        One of the next things?

    28. FBFilippo Biondi1:46:59

        One of the next.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:46:59

        But Sacsayhuaman is also on the-

    30. FBFilippo Biondi1:47:00

        Yeah, Sacsayhuaman. Yes.
15. 1:58:21 – 2:05:30

    Method credibility tour: Osiris shaft, tunnels, dams, and the Gran Sasso benchmark

    1. SPSpeaker1:58:21

       Yeah, which way should I go?

    2. FBFilippo Biondi1:58:23

       Okay, we go upstairs. Let's see. Go back a tape, then we have Gubbio, and then here we have the Osiris shafts, which, uh, we use this shaft, the Osiris shaft, like a benchmark because we, we are able to understand the effectiveness of our technique that is able to retrieve the shape of the Osiris shaft. Why the Osiris shaft? Because it's a benchmark that we know, uh, exactly how it is-

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:58:49

       It's established

    4. FBFilippo Biondi1:58:50

       ... established-

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:58:50

       Right

    6. FBFilippo Biondi1:58:50

       ... and, uh, and, uh, and, uh-

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:58:52

       So it accurately depicts the Osiris shaft?

    8. FBFilippo Biondi1:58:54

       Yes, yes.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:58:57

       Um, what else?

    10. FBFilippo Biondi1:58:58

        Okay, let's go there. Okay, um, uh, fo- 43. 43, yes. Uh, this is, uh, uh, the San Gotardo Tunnel, and here, uh, I made, uh, an exploration, uh, using my technique, uh, in order to retrieve the, uh, shape of, uh, the railway tunnel, that it is, uh, approximately two kilometers below, uh, the, the, the mountain. And, uh, the slide 44, uh, we can, uh, understand that in this case, the Alps, the, the mountain resonates like a crystal. So you are seeing, you are watching the mountain in the vibrational domain.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:59:43

        Mm.

    12. FBFilippo Biondi1:59:43

        So it's like, uh, uh, a, a photograph, a photo, uh, pick- picked up or, um, uh, synthesized by, uh, sound. And in, in that case, uh, we can see the slide 45 and 46, we are detecting the tunnel. The, the tunnel, yes, that's the railway tunnel that is located below the earth.

    13. JRJoe Rogan2:00:08

        Wow! So this is just more proof of the accuracy-

    14. FBFilippo Biondi2:00:14

        Uh, yes

    15. JRJoe Rogan2:00:14

        ... of the technique.

    16. FBFilippo Biondi2:00:14

        Uh, yes. Yes.

    17. JRJoe Rogan2:00:18

        This is some really stunning stuff.

    18. FBFilippo Biondi2:00:20

        Yes, that I can explain you other experiments. We can go starting from, uh, uh, slide 36. Okay, slide 36. This is a dam, and it's very- it is a very important dam, dam. It is, um, the Mosul Dam that is located in Iraq. Uh, it's very huge. It's, uh, 300 meters tall, has a height of thir- 300 meters, and three kilometers from one part to the other part of the dam. So it contains, uh, uh, an, a huge amount of water from the, uh, upper side. There is the water that contains, and below there, there is the, the river that, uh, uh, the water comes out from the reservoir that is on top. Why the Mosul Dam? The Mosul Dam has a problem. Uh, it has been built, uh, on a, a bed of gyp- uh, gesso. How you say?

    19. JRJoe Rogan2:01:23

        Gypsum?

    20. FBFilippo Biondi2:01:23

        Gypsum.

    21. JRJoe Rogan2:01:24

        Gypsum.

    22. FBFilippo Biondi2:01:24

        Yes.

    23. JRJoe Rogan2:01:24

        Yeah.

    24. FBFilippo Biondi2:01:25

        And the gypsum is, uh, uh, um, while is in contact of water, it melts. So the Mosul Dam is dangerous because it has a serious problem of stabilization. In this case, uh, there are a lot of, that's called satellites methods and synthetic aperture radar methods that are devoted to, uh, perform the so-called infrastructural monitoring. And in this case, the Mosul Dam is crucial to be, uh, observed by radar.... In this case, I wanted to see, uh, the, the s- uh, slide thirty-seven, please. Uh, uh, here. Uh, inside the dam, look, there, there is a tunnel, the red line, the tunnel.

    25. JRJoe Rogan2:02:16

        Mm-hmm.

    26. FBFilippo Biondi2:02:17

        And here we have, uh, we have, um, uh, we have, uh, uh, people that are working, uh, inside the tunnel. And the, the task was, my technique is- uh, with my technique, it's possible to detect the, the, the tunnel. We go in slide thirty-eight. Okay, and we see on the, uh, right top, there is the tunnel.

    27. JRJoe Rogan2:02:41

        Mm.

    28. FBFilippo Biondi2:02:42

        Just to explain you, where you see red, the vibration energy is high, so it's red. When you see blue, the vibration has energy is low, okay? It's low. And inside the tunnel, because you have the air, you don't have vibration, so it's low, and so you see the tunnel.

    29. JRJoe Rogan2:03:02

        Mm.

    30. FBFilippo Biondi2:03:03

        Okay? And so we were also able to detect, uh, slide thirty-nine, also the principal facility that are, uh, located inside the dam, which are the turbines.
16. 2:05:30 – 2:07:26

    Closing: call for replication, exploration, and where to learn more

    1. JRJoe Rogan2:05:30

       It's amazing, and I, I, I feel like we're at the beginning of a very fascinating journey.

    2. FBFilippo Biondi2:05:35

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan2:05:35

       You know, and I think that your work, and this research, and all the controversy is good. All the controversy around it is just gonna make more people talk about it, and more people discuss it, and more people understand. And it just seems to me that the more they research it, the more the mystery opens up, and that it is, without a doubt, one of the most astounding discoveries in human history.

    4. FBFilippo Biondi2:05:56

       Yes.

    5. JRJoe Rogan2:05:56

       So-

    6. FBFilippo Biondi2:05:57

       Yeah. Thank you, Joe. [laughing]

    7. JRJoe Rogan2:05:59

       Congratulations on discovering it, and thank you so much for all your hard work, because, I mean, uh, like I said, it's, to me, one of the most fascinating subjects. Uh, and, you know, what Graham always speaks of is that we are a species with amnesia.

    8. FBFilippo Biondi2:06:13

       Yes.

    9. JRJoe Rogan2:06:13

       And when-

    10. FBFilippo Biondi2:06:14

        And I agree with this, with that.

    11. JRJoe Rogan2:06:16

        And, you know, and it's one of the reasons why so many people are mad at him. It's 'cause he was right. He was right in the 1990s. [laughing] You know, and, and as time goes on-

    12. FBFilippo Biondi2:06:24

        Yeah

    13. JRJoe Rogan2:06:24

        ... he is being proven more and more to be correct, and things just seem to keep getting older.

    14. FBFilippo Biondi2:06:30

        Yes.

    15. JRJoe Rogan2:06:31

        It's amazing. Thank you so much for being here.

    16. FBFilippo Biondi2:06:34

        Thank you, Joe.

    17. JRJoe Rogan2:06:34

        I really, really appreciate your time, and I appreciate your work, and I-

    18. FBFilippo Biondi2:06:36

        Thank you for inviting me.

    19. JRJoe Rogan2:06:37

        My pleasure. Let's do it again-

    20. FBFilippo Biondi2:06:39

        Yes

    21. JRJoe Rogan2:06:39

        ... when more stuff comes out.

    22. FBFilippo Biondi2:06:40

        Okay.

    23. JRJoe Rogan2:06:41

        All right.

    24. FBFilippo Biondi2:06:41

        I, I'm here.

    25. JRJoe Rogan2:06:42

        If anybody wants to find more about this, where would you t- uh, send them to? Is there a website that would give them more information if they wanna do a deep dive?

    26. FBFilippo Biondi2:06:50

        Uh, yes. Um, uh, I have a personal website, which is harmonicSAR.com, and I publish the-

    27. JRJoe Rogan2:06:57

        Say that again, harmonics...

    28. FBFilippo Biondi2:06:58

        SAR.com, yes.

    29. JRJoe Rogan2:06:59

        HarmonicSAR.

    30. FBFilippo Biondi2:07:00

        It's meant- it's, uh-

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