Joe Rogan Experience #2443 - Filippo Biondi

Filippo Biondi, PhD is an engineer and signal processing researcher who was part of a team that discovered unusual signal patterns beneath Egypt’s Giza Pyramid complex using advanced radar imaging technology. https://www.harmonicsar.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan.

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1. JRJoe Rogan
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2. FBFilippo Biondi
  The Joe Rogan Experience.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. [upbeat music] How are you, sir?
4. FBFilippo Biondi
  Fine, thank you.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Thank you very much for being here. I'm really excited to talk to you. Uh, obviously, there's been an amazing amount of interest and controversy because of your work. Uh, we should explain to everybody right off the bat what this is about. You are the man that was at the head of this research that is looking at structures that are underneath the bottom of the pyramid, and, uh, incredibly controversial, very fascinating, and if it's accurate, it essentially rewrites all of human history.
6. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes. Uh, thank you for, uh, this invitation, and, uh, yes, the group is composed by Corrado Malanga, which is the head of the group, and, uh, uh, dean professor of ch- chemistry at University of Pisa. Uh-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Can you explain your background, please, so people-
8. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
9. JRJoe Rogan
  ... understand? Yeah.
10. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, my background is, uh, this, I am a telecommunication engineering. I graduate, uh, at the university-
11. JRJoe Rogan
  What is that word again? Say it again.
12. FBFilippo Biondi
  Telecommunication engineering.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Telecommunications engineering.
14. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay.
16. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  It's like, your, your English is excellent, but the Italian accent, although fabulous, sometimes it's [chuckles] difficult to translate.
18. FBFilippo Biondi
  Thank you very much, Joe. Uh, I'm sorry, yes, that I'm not mother tongue of English, but-
19. JRJoe Rogan
  It's still m- much better than my Italian. [laughing]
20. FBFilippo Biondi
  [chuckles] Okay, thank you. Yes, I graduated myself in, uh, university, at the University of Lecce, south of Italy. Uh, very nice university, and, uh, it, it was, uh, uh, it is, uh, uh, has the name of a famous, uh, mathematic, mathematic Italian, uh, which is Ennio de Giorgi. Uh, Ennio de Giorgi, um, was, uh, living in the era than John Nash was living also, and they, uh, were, they were one against to the other, and, uh, they were, they was, uh, both, um, studying the 19 Hilbert prob- problem, and John Na- um, Ennio de Giorgi solved this pro- this problem one week before John Nash.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Ah, interesting.
22. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  John Nash, who, from the famous movie-
24. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
25. JRJoe Rogan
  ... Brilliant Mind.
26. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Russell Crowe.
28. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
30. FBFilippo Biondi
  And so, uh, then I performed my PhD at, uh, La Sapienza in Rome, uh, and now I'm here.
15:00 – 30:00
Yes, yes.…
1. JRJoe Rogan
  that you have, it just makes everybody go, "We don't know anything." We really don't. We, we know that these things exist, but their purpose has always been speculative. The speculation was that it is some sort of a tomb, but that doesn't make any sense because there's, there's no hieroglyphs inside of it. It doesn't seem like a tomb, it doesn't look like a tomb. And I'm sure you're aware of Christopher Dunn's work?
2. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, yes.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Which, you know, he's an engineer, and he said it, it appears that this thing is some sort of a mechanical thing-
4. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah
5. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and that it's probably designed to generate some kind of power.
6. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah. Uh, yes, in this, uh, in this context, uh, I have spoke a lot with Christopher Dunn, and, um, in, in, uh, um... I like a lot his theory, and, uh, it, it makes sense. And, um, and so these discoveries matches a lot with his, uh, with his and also to other scientists, that makes, make recast the, uh, effective purpose of the pyramid, not to, to be tombs. But w- today, we are sure, we are sure or- of one thing, that the pyramids are not tombs.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  They're not tombs. And what is truly spectacular is that if, if this data is accurate, those immense structures that have baffled mankind forever are just the tip of the iceberg.
8. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  That's just the top.
10. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  And underneath it-
12. FBFilippo Biondi
  It is
13. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you have these immense structures-
14. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah
15. JRJoe Rogan
  ... that we have not yet fully explored, but you have data that shows that... Let's, let's look at the images. Let's pull up some of the images so people can see what-
16. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
17. JRJoe Rogan
  ... we're talking about. 'Cause once you see it, y- your mind just goes, "Okay, what are we even talking about?"
18. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, what was this civilization? When did it exist, and what kind of technology would allow them to not just construct the pyramids, which is absolutely baffling, but if this structure that is underneath the pyramids is accurately described by your work, we're looking at something that i- i- is going to have to change our entire perspective on the history of humanity.
20. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, I agree with you, Joe, because, uh, what we found, it is something that, uh, is- has been confirmed by, by our measurements. And at the moment, I suppose that our measurements are the only, are the only data that, uh, we have because there aren't other da- other data. So, uh, what we are w- uh, observing, we are, we are observing principally vertical structure. These vertical structures has a, a pattern, a regular pattern, and this regular pattern is, uh, um, uh, constituted by a so-called spiral nature. I found this, and, uh-
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay, so what are we looking at here? These are-
22. SPSpeaker
  Oh, that's the right one.
23. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
24. SPSpeaker
  Yeah. Okay.
25. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, that is the Khafre pyramid. And you see, Joe, at the top of the tomography, the tomography is, uh, on the x, uh, the- so the horizontal dimension, we have the space.... okay?
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
27. FBFilippo Biondi
  Space adjust, uh, the range. And on the vertical, we have the depth.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay.
29. FBFilippo Biondi
  Okay? On the top, we have, uh, the s- um, uh, the, the, the pyramid you see. You see the pyramid on the top?
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
30:00 – 45:00
... Yes, and also if, uh, we…
1. JRJoe Rogan
  fact that it was carved out of this incredibly hard stone at a time where there was no metal alloys. They, you know, they supposedly had copper tools. No one understands it. No one knows how they did it, and it has handles on it, so it couldn't even been turned on a lathe.
2. FBFilippo Biondi
  ... Yes, and also if, uh, we go inside the pyramids, inside and also outside the pyramids, we can observe that the measurements are very precise. The, the chambers are constituted by flat walls. We don't have inscriptions, uh, and the dimensions are all related to the constants, to the major constants of the universe.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Right. They're all aligned to the constellations. There's a lot of, like, very strange calculations that they were able to make, like pathways where the sun during the solar-
4. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
5. JRJoe Rogan
  ... equinox passes right through. It's a fascinating place.
6. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  But when you ha- started acquiring this data, and you started accumulating it, and then started going over it with experts, what did that feel like to you when you're, when you're realizing, "Oh, this is real"?
8. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes. It was something that, uh, was very, um, um, um, very nice for me because [laughing] ... Because, uh, w- when we dis- uh, the, the thing was, c- um, I, um, was saying always to Corrado, "Corrado, shall we disclose this or not?" "Mm, I think for, for now not. For now not." But then the results were always the same, so we decided to, to disclose these, uh, these results.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  So how long did you sit on it before you decided to disclose it?
10. FBFilippo Biondi
  Uh, one year.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  One year?
12. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  So for that one year, how conflicted were you? You must have been walking around like, "I have the biggest-
14. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
15. JRJoe Rogan
  ... secret on Earth."
16. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  How weird was that? [laughing]
18. FBFilippo Biondi
  [laughing] Only two persons knew this. [laughing]
19. JRJoe Rogan
  That's crazy!
20. FBFilippo Biondi
  [laughing]
21. JRJoe Rogan
  That's crazy. Two people-
22. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah
23. JRJoe Rogan
  ... having one of the biggest secrets on Earth.
24. FBFilippo Biondi
  [laughing]
25. JRJoe Rogan
  That's backed by data.
26. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  I mean, it's not, it's not even like, you know, someone told you something. Like, you have extraordinary data due to fascinating modern technology that indicates that there's these paradigm-shifting structures.
28. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah, and uh, I, I tell you, Joe, I, I would like to go there and see, uh, uh, what there is in person-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes
30. FBFilippo Biondi
  ... because it's, it's now time, I think.
45:00 – 1:00:00
$20 million.…
1. FBFilippo Biondi
  m- an estimation, uh, b- about, I don't know, for maybe, maybe, uh, belonging for 20 millions or, or more.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  $20 million.
3. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  All right.
5. FBFilippo Biondi
  $20 million.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  And this is just to clean the shaft and go underneath it?
7. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, and, uh, wo- uh, because why so much money? Because we are-- our intention is to work safety. I don't want that people has to go down the shaft and work. We will- we want to use drones, robots-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Right
9. FBFilippo Biondi
  ... to, to make something automatically, and so go down by using machines, not humans.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, that makes sense.
11. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, and that way, you can get accurate, real-time video-
13. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
14. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and yeah.
15. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, yes.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Wow!
17. FBFilippo Biondi
  With cameras and, uh, uh... It, it will be something, I, I am thinking about this. The most, maybe it is one of the most ancient megalithic structure that we are dealing now, can be recovered by the most modern technology that we have now today.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm.
19. FBFilippo Biondi
  And so we can recover it, modern and ancient together.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  So you've been giving this presentation now-
21. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and you've been going around. What has that been like? What has the reception of it been like?
23. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, a, a moderate positive reception.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Moderate positive.
25. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  So people that are like, "If this is true, it's amazing, but you have to show me more."
27. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, yes.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
29. FBFilippo Biondi
  Uh, I tell you, in this project proposal, I am out.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  You're out?
1:00:00 – 1:15:00
So what do you think the reason…
1. FBFilippo Biondi
  one purposes, no, more than one, uh, scopus of the pyramids. Yeah, the pyramids, uh, intended to be... Now, we, uh, I am 100% convinced that, that the pyramids, uh, can be considered the tip of the iceberg of something, uh, con, uh, of something very, uh, huge, that is composed by things that are below the Earth, and the pyramids that are up at the surface of the Earth.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  So what do you think the reason for the design of the pyramid in that specific geometric shape?
3. FBFilippo Biondi
  Uh, yes, uh, probably because they have to resonate with, uh, the universe.... in s- in, uh, in, uh, in some, uh, um, in they, they have to resonate with the, with the universe. You know, the, the universe, uh, uh, the universe, uh, uh, Joe, it is, uh, it is not complicated. It's simple. Because the universe, uh, is, uh, constituted by things, uh, the matter, the particles, the light, yes, but everything is, uh, uh, regulated by some constants. There are the constants. So the velocity, the speed of the light, C, three, uh, three times 10 to the eighth, uh, kilometers per second. Then you have, uh, so the velocity of the light, so you have the electric constants, the magnetic constants that are, uh-- that arranges very well the law of the universe. So it is important that something that has to, uh, be well related to the place that we live, uh, to the universe, has to contain very precisely the dimensions of re- uh, recasting the constants of the universe.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  And that's what you think the pyramids did?
5. FBFilippo Biondi
  Personally, yes. Personally, yes.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  How old do you think they are?
7. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, so yes, on the... Sorry, the, the Italian, the start of it. [laughing] I start speaking Italian.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  No, it's okay. It's okay.
9. FBFilippo Biondi
  [laughing] Eh, the, the thing that, uh, uh, we can say for certainly is that the pyramids are older than the dates that are written on the, uh, typical, uh, history books. So to see something that-- uh, to say something very precisely, we have to go back in time, uh, into the Zep Tepi.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
11. FBFilippo Biondi
  So that's thir- more than ten thirty-six, uh, thousands years ago, uh, something happened to the Earth. So, uh, the Zep Tepi, uh, be- began, and in a time belonging, the Zep Tepi and the Great Flood were built the pyramid, the pyramids.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  So, like, what-- I'm sending you something, Jamie, that's very interesting.
13. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Um, so do you have an id- do you, do you have an estimation? Like, what, what is your personal belief?
15. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes. Uh, we can't say exactly the year.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  So Zep Tepi, let's, let's explain to people what that is, since we're, uh, um, I sometimes forget. Zep Tepi is the thing that I d- described to Zahi Hawass-
17. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and he dismissed it. "What is this? I've never heard of this." [clears throat] It's an ancient kings list.
19. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  And it's a list of pharaohs that goes back past 30,000 years.
21. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  And, um, it's very inconvenient for modern academics, and so they like to portray it as myth. And then when it gets to the age of historically accurate pharaohs that we know of, Khufu and Khafre, then they allow those hieroglyphs.
23. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  But when you get all the way back to the 30,000 years ago, they like to say that that's just mythology.
25. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, it's true. Uh, but it is a matter of fact, uh, the Zep Tepi. We have, uh, uh, um, we have also, uh, other ancient megalithics that are very old, recognized very old.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
27. FBFilippo Biondi
  So, uh, we, we have to deal with that.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, Gobekli Tepe was a big problem.
29. FBFilippo Biondi
  Gobekli Tepe is a big problem also.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  More than 11,000 years old-
1:15:00 – 1:30:00
So w- the personal computer, you were…
1. FBFilippo Biondi
  the pyramids. And that, in that, uh, meantime, I, I realized that, that, uh, I liked the pyramids, and so I, I was ve- very young.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  So w- the personal computer, you were just researching the pyramids, is that what it was?
3. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, yes.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, what do you think? Just looking at pictures and images and-
5. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, yes.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
7. FBFilippo Biondi
  On the pyramids.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  So you always were fascinated by it, but did you have an understanding or even, uh, any questions about the timeline of civilization-
9. FBFilippo Biondi
  No, never
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... before this?
11. FBFilippo Biondi
  No, never.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  So it only happened within the last few years?
13. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, yes. Uh, I began, uh, I began, uh, working, uh, so, uh, being interested on pyramids, uh, starting from 2018.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  So it was right after you started-
15. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... doing this research?
17. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  And you started saying, "Okay, what is this?" Yeah.
19. FBFilippo Biondi
  And so when you start to, to research on something that, that is, uh, the, our history, our past, our origins, because we, our origins are there, so we have to fetch, we have to find what there is there. Because it is important that, uh, we, c- uh, it is important to research our origin, because in this meantime, humanity does not know... W- we don't know who we are. We don't know our origins. We don't know anything of, of, uh, who we are, and the most of the answers can be found in the, um, studying the pyramids.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, it certainly seems to be the greatest accomplishment that ancient humans had ever created.
21. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  And if these humans were far more ancient than we currently believe, that is really, really interesting.
23. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah. And, uh, it is, for me, a very... It, it is something that I have it always in my mind, only to know how they did, how they cut the stones, how they tr-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Right
25. FBFilippo Biondi
  ... have transported the stones, and how, I don't know how, how, how everything. I don't know.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  It's all how, how, how.
27. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, what gave them the idea? Like, were there any previous pyramids? 'Cause it, it's weird because the older y- you go, the more complex the structures are.
29. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  And the newer ones-
1:30:00 – 1:45:00
More impossible than before.…
1. FBFilippo Biondi
  More impossible than before.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
3. FBFilippo Biondi
  But-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  More impossible than ... I mean, if you'd imagine with modern technology, trying to recreate something like that, you're talking about an immense project-
5. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah
6. JRJoe Rogan
  ... that would cost hundreds of billions of dollars-
7. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
8. JRJoe Rogan
  ... if not more.
9. FBFilippo Biondi
  A- a- a- and-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  And the engineering involved in it. I mean, you're an engineer. The eng- engineering involved in doing something like that, like-
11. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah
12. JRJoe Rogan
  ... how?
13. FBFilippo Biondi
  How they can cut the granite so precisely? It is impossible. It's impossible. Also today, it's impossible.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  So they had some sort of a technology that is far more advanced than we have. They just went in a different direction. We went in the direction of internal combustion engines-
15. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and electronics-
17. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and they probably went in some completely different direction.
19. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah. Yes, because, uh, the modern sc- sci- science started from a point, and then, as you, you are, you are saying right, we, we followed a, a, a direction, which is the direction of light. Because most of the, uh, our inventions, our, uh, yes, internal combustion, uh, engines, uh, and uh, uh, and other stuff, but, uh, principally, we use light because we can see it. We can see it. We can see light, okay, we use light. But other, other existence, other people that, uh, that was, uh, uh, living in the past maybe used other things that we don't know.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Maybe sound.
21. FBFilippo Biondi
  Maybe sound.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... Well, it seems like it, if this is generating sound and vibration, if your speculation is correct-
23. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  -then they were obsessed with vibration and sound.
25. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, yes. They were obs- obsessed in vibrations and sound. Because all the structures that, uh, I, that I watched inside the, inside the pyramids, they are like something that generates sound, or they maintain clean the sound.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  It resonates sound.
27. FBFilippo Biondi
  It resonates sound.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  It echoes.
29. FBFilippo Biondi
  Echoes.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  It has a very specific echo to it.
1:45:00 – 2:00:00
This is Sacsayhuaman, right?…
1. FBFilippo Biondi
  is a, a town, uh, where I live. I am, uh, [chuckles] -
2. JRJoe Rogan
  This is Sacsayhuaman, right?
3. FBFilippo Biondi
  Sacsayhuaman, yes. This is Sacsayhuaman, and, uh, here I am, uh, showing you the next, uh, work that we, uh, can do, uh, once the Giza scanning, uh, activity are finished.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  So this is in Peru, correct?
5. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah. Yes.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  And so you want to scan this as well, because, uh-
7. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
8. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you know, we've had quite a few people on Describe This, uh-
9. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes. Look, Joe, the stones are like mash- marshmallows.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
11. FBFilippo Biondi
  They are like marshmallows. How they did those, those-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Right
13. FBFilippo Biondi
  ... those things there?
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Enormous.
15. FBFilippo Biondi
  Enormous.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Some of them 100 tons, carved from stones that, uh, who knows how they put them into position, but they carved them in this very strange way to absorb the impact of earthquakes, right?
17. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes. Yes.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  The idea of this technology is-
19. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yeah
20. JRJoe Rogan
  ... that the reason why they're like a puzzle piece is because it, it would be much less likely to move in an intense earthquake.
21. FBFilippo Biondi
  Okay. Go back a little bit. Uh, uh, Gubbio, uh, just a few words on, uh, this, uh, city. That is a small town that is located in Perugia, where I live. Uh, look, um, uh, the, the Italian, the authority of this, of the city, of the town, uh, asked me to perform a scanning around that coliseum, that mini coliseum that is, uh, located in Gubbio, because probably there is a huge Roman, uh, city. Not so old, but it is a Roman city that compounds that, uh, arena that is there.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm, so a lost Roman city that's around that area?
23. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, yes.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  And-
25. FBFilippo Biondi
  And I say hello to the people of Gubbio. [laughing]
26. JRJoe Rogan
  [chuckles] So is this the next thing that you're going to do?
27. FBFilippo Biondi
  Uh-
28. JRJoe Rogan
  One of the next things?
29. FBFilippo Biondi
  One of the next.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  But Sacsayhuaman is also on the-
2:00:00 – 2:07:26
Wow! So this is just more proof…
1. FBFilippo Biondi
  we are detecting the tunnel. The, the tunnel, yes, that's the railway tunnel that is located below the earth.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Wow! So this is just more proof of the accuracy-
3. FBFilippo Biondi
  Uh, yes
4. JRJoe Rogan
  ... of the technique.
5. FBFilippo Biondi
  Uh, yes. Yes.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  This is some really stunning stuff.
7. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes, that I can explain you other experiments. We can go starting from, uh, uh, slide 36. Okay, slide 36. This is a dam, and it's very- it is a very important dam, dam. It is, um, the Mosul Dam that is located in Iraq. Uh, it's very huge. It's, uh, 300 meters tall, has a height of thir- 300 meters, and three kilometers from one part to the other part of the dam. So it contains, uh, uh, an, a huge amount of water from the, uh, upper side. There is the water that contains, and below there, there is the, the river that, uh, uh, the water comes out from the reservoir that is on top. Why the Mosul Dam? The Mosul Dam has a problem. Uh, it has been built, uh, on a, a bed of gyp- uh, gesso. How you say?
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Gypsum?
9. FBFilippo Biondi
  Gypsum.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Gypsum.
11. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
13. FBFilippo Biondi
  And the gypsum is, uh, uh, um, while is in contact of water, it melts. So the Mosul Dam is dangerous because it has a serious problem of stabilization. In this case, uh, there are a lot of, that's called satellites methods and synthetic aperture radar methods that are devoted to, uh, perform the so-called infrastructural monitoring. And in this case, the Mosul Dam is crucial to be, uh, observed by radar.... In this case, I wanted to see, uh, the, the s- uh, slide thirty-seven, please. Uh, uh, here. Uh, inside the dam, look, there, there is a tunnel, the red line, the tunnel.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
15. FBFilippo Biondi
  And here we have, uh, we have, um, uh, we have, uh, uh, people that are working, uh, inside the tunnel. And the, the task was, my technique is- uh, with my technique, it's possible to detect the, the, the tunnel. We go in slide thirty-eight. Okay, and we see on the, uh, right top, there is the tunnel.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm.
17. FBFilippo Biondi
  Just to explain you, where you see red, the vibration energy is high, so it's red. When you see blue, the vibration has energy is low, okay? It's low. And inside the tunnel, because you have the air, you don't have vibration, so it's low, and so you see the tunnel.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm.
19. FBFilippo Biondi
  Okay? And so we were also able to detect, uh, slide thirty-nine, also the principal facility that are, uh, located inside the dam, which are the turbines.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  The turbines.
21. FBFilippo Biondi
  The turbines.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
23. FBFilippo Biondi
  And, uh, and other stuff, and all the mechanical, uh, the mechanical, uh, pr- um, machines. Uh, this is the-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm
25. FBFilippo Biondi
  ... all the mechanical machines that are located inside the-
26. JRJoe Rogan
  All right, so it's showing the accurate shape of the turbines-
27. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes
28. JRJoe Rogan
  ... as well.
29. FBFilippo Biondi
  Yes.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  So this is just more proof that this technique works.

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