Spencer Pratt on Joe Rogan: Why LA Fire Money Missed Victims

Speaker 0:02 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat rock music]

Joe Rogan 0:12 What's going on, Mr. Mayor? [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 0:14 [laughs] I'm so thankful to be here.

Joe Rogan 0:17 My pleasure. Um, so first of all, how did this idea even get into your head of running for mayor in LA?

Spencer Pratt 0:26 To be clear, I never wanted to run for any political office or have anything to do with politicians. What happened was, after spending a year uncovering how my house and my parents' house burned down, and my neighbors burned alive, and, and 7,000 houses burned, and then I realized there's a, a cover-up going on, all the negligence, and I keep posting about it, and I have all the facts, I have all the whistleblowers, I have all the evidence, and business as usual. And I see that nobody is stepping up to run against the mayor who's responsible for this disaster and so many other disasters. So it became to the point where I got so sick of just being a, as the younger people say in the comments section, a yapper. Like, I felt like I was just yapping. I'm like making these videos, I'm telling the, the truth, I'm do-

Joe Rogan 1:16 Right

Spencer Pratt 1:17 ... I got a congressional investigation. I went to Washington, I met with everyone possible that I could do as just a citizen, and I, I was like, "Okay, well, game on now. I'm gonna go into your, into your headquarters and just take your job, and then remove all these toxic entities that are destroying our way of life in Los Angeles."

Joe Rogan 1:38 So let's start from the fire. Um, so the narrative was, my God, there was a lot of terrible, stupid, fake narratives, and one of them was climate change. That was the craziest one, that climate change is causing the fire. Look, I lived in LA for 29, 30 years, whatever it was, and I guess it was, yeah, somewhere around there. Eh, maybe even more. Whatever it was. Uh, when I lived in LA, fire season happened every year. It, this is not climate change. This is not some new thing over the last couple of decades. I was evacuated three different times. Uh, I used to live in Bell Canyon, and my neighbors, three of the homes right across the, right across the street from my house burned to the ground in 2018. There, there's always been fires in Los Angeles. But the lack of preparation for the Palisades fires was astonishing. The fact that the reservoir was empty was criminal mismanagement. I mean, it was just insanity that everybody knew that we had fires, like massive fires, that it was a dry place, and when the Santa Ana winds would blow, if something caught fire, it was a real problem. We had known that forever. And when you see all these people that are passing the buck and moving the blame, and then the fund, when they had that big charity thing for the fire, and

Joe Rogan 3:10 you found out that hundreds of millions of dollars was raised. You know, if you're, you're looking at it in, it, it, like a, an, a rational person, a rational person would say, "Oh, this is great. All these people who lost their homes will have some funds from this, and they'll be able to rebuild." And then you find out that the money was given to, what was it? Like 108 different NGOs?

Spencer Pratt 3:34 200 plus.

Joe Rogan 3:35 200 plus, where that money got distributed to these organizations, these supposed nonprofit organizations, and most of that money goes to overhead. And almost nothing goes to the people who lost their homes.

Spencer Pratt 3:51 So to rewa- rewind, let's start with what we thought.

Joe Rogan 3:55 Right.

Spencer Pratt 3:56 We were told climate change, and with the climate change, because I've spent hours and hours arguing with people that will argue with that. I go, "Okay, great. The climate changes," right? So we're aware of this dry weather. It hasn't rained. So what should we actually be doing? Should we just say, "Oh, everybody should burn alive and houses burn down"? Or should we clear the dead brush? Should we pre-deploy? Should we make sure that both reservoirs have water in it? So the idea that climate change is the, the get out of jail, burn everything down excuse, it doesn't even add up. So we know that, so let's make a difference. And I went and met with the chief of the U.S. Forest Service and talked to him for a few hours. This guy, Chief Garcia, he's one of the most famous fire chiefs from the Hotshots, and I quizzed him, and he told me this was not a surprise. He said they all have a map. And I forget the name of this map, that it goes to all cities and emergency personnel. They have photos. You look at them. He showed them to me. Everything is bright red leading up to January 7th. Bright red. They knew this was coming to the point where Chief Garcia had all of his firefighters on the tarmac, kitted up, in their helicopters. He said his whole team was standing by their computers because it was so obvious this fire was coming based off of, if you want to say, climate change. Because it s- it had not rained, it was record dry. So this idea that they use that, it's, it's just an excuse. And then the big one that everyone falls for to this day that I... Is the best propaganda ever, is hurricane winds. We were told, you know, Newsom's doing the thing and he's saying the winds would come in the hurricane. He lit his hair on fire. There was no hurricane winds in the Pacific Palisades. The max wind speed was 40 miles per hour. And for the first six hours, when the helicopter is the initial attack, when you put out the, the fire, it was max, I think, 27 miles per hour. So they got everyone with, "It's unprecedented, it's hurricane winds, it's climate change." No responsibility.

Joe Rogan 6:06 Right.

Spencer Pratt 6:07 So now we go to fire aid.This is this was another thing that just woke me up to, you know, we always heard about the homeless NGO scam and the homeless industrial complex, but living as a, a fire victim and watching all these celebrities go on stage, they actually took fire victims from Altadena on stage whose houses burned down, and they raised this hundred million dollars. And as a victim, I'm thinking, "Okay, you know, we're gonna get a few thousand dollars. That's nice." Or, you know, you break 100 million up, this should be a, a grand. You know, even FEMA and these places, when you get that thousand-dollar check, it's helpful. You're like, "Oh, I just lost everything." Every little thousand adds up. So when that happened and nobody I know anywhere got money, and Sue Pascoe from Circling the News, a local journalist, sh- whose house burned down, she spent months investigating, calling up every single NGO. "Who did you give money to? Which, which victim?" Nobody got money. And even the, the law firm that they hired to do the, you know, the coverup for, uh, the FireAid, the law firm says in their own little three-page document where they're defending FireAid, they say, "Several of the money went directly to fire victims." Well, I Googled just to see, 'cause I know the definition of several. I wanna see what does Google say several is. It was definitely under 10. So out of 200-plus NGOs, their own lawyers are saying several gave to fire victims. And then you look at the three that they name, like, "We gave gift cards to victims." Which victims? Which... You were just handing out if you were, but it, it was that that woke me up to if they will-

Joe Rogan 7:53 They stole the money.

Spencer Pratt 7:54 Yeah. And if they'll do that to the people whose houses just burned down, of course they're gonna do it to our tax money with the homeless industrial zombie complex. So that was a real wake up that put me into, "Oh, here's where the 25, $30 billion goes. It doesn't go to solving anything or fixing it. It goes to scams."

Joe Rogan 8:15 Well, I, I don't think before DOGE and before Elon started investigating into a lot of these NGOs, I don't think anybody was really aware, or most people were not aware of how this all works and how there's a, a whole bureaucracy, like a business that's set up where a bunch of people get paid from this money to essentially make no improvements whatsoever in whatever the problem is, whether it's homelessness. The homelessness is one of the biggest ones in LA because there was 24-plus billion dollars spent on homelessness, and when people, when representatives have tried to do an audit to find out where this money went, Newsom has blocked it. He has vetoed this audit.

Spencer Pratt 9:01 So it's, it's even worse in the sense that it's not going to just their salaries. There's actual cases now with the DOJ and the feds, they're arresting people who are just stealing 30 million, 20 million, buying Bentleys, mansions in Brentwood. So the idea that it's just going to salaries and people are paying themself out, that's one. But there's also people just straight up stealing money and, and you can't even figure out how they steal it. For instance, uh, this lovely lady, um, came on my podcast and she's, she created her own charity type thing, The Integrity Project, to expose NGOs, because she lives in Westwood, and all of a sudden one day on her block in this, you know, she invested with her husband to have a nice single family house on this nice street in Westwood, and the old person home, they're kicking all the senior citizens out. And she's like, "What's going on here?" And then next thing you know, the building's on the, on the market for sale, and it's for $11 million. Six days later, that building sells to a developer for $27 million. Ends up this NGO, Weingart, who's one of the top, I think they're at, um, maybe $100 million just this year. They haven't turned in their audit to the feds. It's late right now. But for instance, no one knows why it went from 11 million to 27 million over the weekend in three days. So people pocket that money. Here's the craziest part. Guess who... So you, the grant, you know, Weingart gets a grant from the city or the state. Guess who owns that building? Not the city or the state. Weingart. So our tax money buys for 20 extra million dollars a property to have it as a homeless housing. Each of these beds, 'cause I think there's maybe only 70 beds in it, it's now six years later, approximately, totally not finished, not done, more, you know, construction, this or that. They still get paid as operators. So these NGOs not only get the money for the grants to buy the building, then they get like a million dollars a year to be operators, and here's the best part. There's no mandatory that they have to actually put a body in the beds.

Joe Rogan 11:07 [chuckles] Jeez.

Spencer Pratt 11:09 So, you know, so the scam is, like I keep saying, this is a cartel. This is mafia. This is real mafia criminal stuff going on, and the problem is... So one thing I'm so excited to do when I'm mayor, and people in the comment section will be like, "Oh, he's so stupid. You can't do that." I've met with the IRS criminal investigation team three times in LA, twice in Washington, DC, and they are so excited for me to be mayor because all they need is one document from each of these NGOs and these grants, and they can open these investigations on fraud. Right now they know the fraud and the, and the crimes are happening, but if the city doesn't hand over the document and the NGO doesn't, they say they can't just open up these cases without that one document. So first week-

Joe Rogan 11:55 Sorry. No, I didn't know.

Spencer Pratt 11:57 So for s- first week as mayor, I'm bringing in the criminal investigation team of the IRS. Here's all the NGOs we're working with. I guarantee you 95% of them are already just calling like, "Oh, Mayor Pratt, well, we're good. We're actually going to Seattle. We don't wanna work here." Once they know someone's coming to stop the cookie jar stealing. And then, well, people are like, "Oh, LA has no money. How are you gonna do all this stuff?"LA has plenty of money that we're just letting our tax money just be stolen and to increase a problem. Homeless since our current mayor, Karen Bass, has, has joined the city power, she's increased homeless. They referenced numbers, they referenced numbers that, that she'll be like, "Oh, we removed fifteen hundred people this year." But she doesn't say, "Oh, fifteen hundred were removed into the cemetery because they OD'd." Not to mention how much tax money we're spending on just keeping zombies alive. I met with s- firefighters a few days ago at the Hollywood Station, and they were telling me the amount of Narcan they go through. So in one night in the, at the-- I talked to a, um, Mc- MacArthur Park, their fire station. He did seventeen overdoses in one night.

Joe Rogan 13:07 Jeez.

Spencer Pratt 13:07 So if we-- they're not there, given the Narcan, we're-- the, the amount of people dying is even more insane. Right now, six people are dying a day in the street, and then they say, "Oh, this is compassionate. These people have rights." No, these people do not have rights for, to just die. We need to protect these people as humans. And again, that's why my whole thing is enforce the law. It is illegal to just be doing fentanyl on the street. So if we come in and we give you mandatory treatment, not jail, if you're not... You know, some of these people are just straight going to jail for animal abuse. They're torturing animals all day long on Skid Row. The videos that I get sent, once you see them, you can't unsee them. Not to mention now I'm working with all the rescue ones. The ones, they text me, and they're just like, "Spencer, we have to stop this." And the city knows. They call the cops all day long. The cops come and they say-- I mean, LAPD's hands are tied. If the mayor and the city attorney, they don't have the, like, enforce the law, they just get away with it. So we're in Mad Max life in Los Angeles, and people like to say, "Oh, it's not..." It's-- I'm from LA. I've grown up, and I keep saying I'm fighting to get LA back to what I grew up. It was beautiful. It's why I wanted to be on a TV show and be famous and be part of Hollywood. It was magical. Not even mention Hollywood is now gone. The fact that Hollywood Boulevard should be the greatest tourist attraction in the world, you couldn't pay me right now to go on Hollywood Boulevard, step on human feces, the smell of pee, inhaling fent. They're just, everyone can just smoke fentanyl on the streets now. It's psycho. So again, why did I-- Once you start digging in and you spend all your life now exposing this, because again, they burned my house down. They burned my mom's house down. I have to-- They put me in the game, and once you, the bubble's gone, I just, all I have is this energy to stop this. Not to mention now the amount of thousands of messages I get every day from every part of the city sending me photos. There's parents that when they drive to school all across city, this is not just one unique area, they have to have their kids in the backseat staring at an iPad not to look out the window because meth addicts will just be having sex on the side of the street. There's just naked people everywhere now. And when I say people, naked zombies. And the DEA will tell you ninety percent of these homeless people have a drug problem. We have a drug addict problem. These aren't people that just, like, missed a paycheck and we need to get them help and give back.

Joe Rogan 15:43 Right.

Spencer Pratt 15:43 This is a drug problem that needs mandatory treatment, not handing people needles and pipes and saying, "Oh, here's a million dollar bed." If you're a fentanyl zombie hanging upside down, you don't care about a million dollar empty bed because you're just high. You sober up and you go get high again. But what were we talking about?

Joe Rogan 16:02 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 16:02 You got me pumped up. You got me pumped up.

Joe Rogan 16:04 Well, it's good. It's good to be pumped up. I mean, there's no other explanation other than extensive fraud. There's no way they could be getting that much money from our taxes and have this big of a problem with crime and with homelessness. And it's almost like they want everybody to feel helpless. They want you to feel like there's nothing you could do so that it justifies throwing more money at the problem. Pull that article up again.

Spencer Pratt 16:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:28 So, uh, so here it is. This is, uh, this is in the LAist. Homelessness deal now under federal investigation. Um, so even in LA's famously overheated real estate market, the profit and quick turnaround on senior housing complex and what's that word? Chev, Cheviot? Cheviot? How do you say that word?

Spencer Pratt 16:48 Cheviot Hills.

Joe Rogan 16:48 Cheviot Hills. Do you know where that is?

Spencer Pratt 16:50 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 16:51 Uh, neighborhood seems extraordinary. Man at the center of the deal since identified by federal prosecutors as Brentwood landlord and developer Steven Taylor bought the property on Shelby Drive in twenty twenty-three for eleven point two million purchase record shows. Okay, so this is, th- this is exactly what you're talking about.

Spencer Pratt 17:09 Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:09 Twenty-seven point three million to pay for that acquisition came from taxpayer grant funds authorized by city and state officials, according to grant documentations. LA Mayor Ka- Karen Bass and Governor Newsom touted the purchase as a key tool in the fight against homelessness. The fight against homelessness that they're losing. Um, the deal called for Taylor's involvement to be kept secret according to a confidentiality clause included in the purchase contract obtained through a public records request. That changed last month when federal authorities announced criminal charges against Taylor. He's accused of submitting fraudulent documents to borrow money for private lender, from private lenders when he bought this and/or, and other properties. So, uh, news conference, region's top federal prosecutor, Bill, uh, As- As-

Spencer Pratt 17:59 Asayli.

Joe Rogan 18:00 Asayli. Asayli, said the investigation is ongoing. Taylor was arrested in August when the case was under seal and pleaded not guilty, court records show. It's the first of the two known criminal cases brought so far by the federal task force Asayli assembled in April to investigate fraud and corruption around the use of billions of dollars earmarked to combat homelessness in Southern California. So these people are just buccaneers. They're just buccaneers. This is a, a--Just a, a, a gigantic criminal enterprise that exists under this guise of b- you know, b- being kind. Like-

Spencer Pratt 18:35 So that case only exists because of that mom, Samantha, spent, did 7,500 of her own public records requests on that senior citizen home. That... And then the FBI came. She started posting it, and the FBI knocked on her door and said, "Can we meet with you?" And she gave them all of her files. So it's back to what I was saying. The feds wouldn't even got that story if this woman, Samantha, from The Integrity Project, didn't do 7,000 public records requests and build this case on her own, because she was, "What's going on in my next-door neighbor?"

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Spencer Pratt 20:19 So-

Joe Rogan 20:20 Well, this has gotta be just one-

Spencer Pratt 20:22 Oh, oh-

Joe Rogan 20:22 ... piece of the puzzle. This-

Spencer Pratt 20:23 That's 30 million-

Joe Rogan 20:24 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 20:25 ... of 25-plus billion dollars.

Joe Rogan 20:27 This is, so this is an extensive coordinated effort to, to siphon money.

Spencer Pratt 20:33 100%. And again, there's plenty of money to stop homelessness. Karen Bass will tell you, let's use her low number, made-up number. They go around and they count, they dri- This is a real thing. They drive around and they do the homeless count. You can volunteer, and you just count, like, oh, one, two. So that count-

Joe Rogan 20:49 That's how they do it?

Spencer Pratt 20:50 Yes. [laughs] They just had a count recently. So the count supposedly is, I, let's say 45,000. The RAND Corporation will say that count is 30% low. I'll say that count's 100% low. But even so, let's say there's 100,000 homeless people in Los Angeles. $20 billion? Okay, that's California. Let's bring it down to in the last year to a couple billion dollars. We can't get people off the street with that much money? Just today, this DSA city council member was doing a video. She's bragging about, "Oh, I just secured $16 million grant." I love the way they use the grant. I just got $16 million more of our tax money, and she is putting in little tiny homes next to somebody's... Like, just next to a normal street where, again, this shouldn't be where that is, and it's housing approximately, they say 60 people or whatever. I did the... It was a quarter million dollars per person that they're bragging about. $250,000 a person can get anybody sober a nice little condo or apartment for a year, potentially whatever job tools you need. So this idea that takes a quarter million dollars to put a tiny h- It's everyone's getting a cut. It's like, again, it's like the mafia. Who's getting-

Joe Rogan 22:08 So there's a bunch of things going on. There's a bunch of employees that are getting paid, so, and get- getting paid substantial amounts of money. You know, my friend Colion Noir found this out about San Francisco. So he went up to San Francisco. He saw all this homelessness, and he, he's a lawyer, but he's also... He, he doesn't know what's going on over there. He's like, "Wow, what's going on? Do they need more money?" He's like, "No. No, no, no, no, no, no. What's going on is they're actually incentivized to have more homeless people, 'cause the more homeless people, the bigger the bureaucracy grows, the bigger you can have your homeless foundation, your homeless task force, whatever it is." And these people are making quarter million dollars a year plus. And, which is insane. And he, he showed the list of the salaries of all these people. Like, how are you getting paid when the problem keeps getting worse, and all you're doing is hiring more people, and they're getting paid more money, and more projects, and more grants, and more homelessness? And it's not getting any better, but the money keeps coming in, so you're incentivized to keep the problem.

Spencer Pratt 23:08 Of... And increase it.

Joe Rogan 23:09 Yes.

Spencer Pratt 23:10 [laughs] More money. It's a business.

Joe Rogan 23:11 Right.

Spencer Pratt 23:12 And, you know, people always talk, I grew up and I had, was well aware of the military industrial complex, but even with that, they track the bombs-

Joe Rogan 23:20 Right

Spencer Pratt 23:20 ... and the fighter jets. This, it's even cr- It's even crazier because there's no... I think we, we serve. They use the word serve and cared for. They don't track results. They say, "Oh, we house 1,400 people." For a night? Two nights?

Joe Rogan 23:36 Right.

Spencer Pratt 23:36 You know, it's not like we're getting, people have bracelets, and we're tracking them-

Joe Rogan 23:39 Right

Spencer Pratt 23:39 ... and they're getting Air Tags. We have no idea [laughs] what's going on.

Joe Rogan 23:43 God.

Spencer Pratt 23:43 So again, I keep saying, as mayor, I'll enforce the laws, because you cannot be a crazed drug addict zombie just running amok naked on the street. That is why, thank God, our amazing Democrats in California made this year SB 43, and that means if you can't manage your own mental state, you can come in and have a hold, a psych hold for 72 hours. And if it seems like, oh, this person needs real treatment, it can go to 45 days, and then it can go up to a year conservatorship. And as mayor, what I keep telling people is once you start enforcing the law, first off, people who just wanna do drugs and live on the streets, they will leave LA because they'll see, oh- [chuckles] This mayor's not playing around. We need to go somewhere else, or they're so crazy and we're gonna help them get medical treatment, or they're one of these dog-abusing type people, and I'm gonna put them under the jail to the point where once they get from under the jail somehow, if they ever get out, they will never come back to LA 'cause now they're been under the jail and they're gonna go under two times more till they end up in prison. Because if you abuse animals, once-- Again, once you see what I've seen, we're talking they're stapling dogs' eyes closed, lighting-

Joe Rogan 24:57 I don't even... I can't even-

Spencer Pratt 24:58 Yeah

Joe Rogan 24:58 ... yeah.

Spencer Pratt 24:59 It's, it's, it's insane. The shelters alone, where it's the city is doing mass murder because they're not giving these people enough funding, and I'm convinced now they must make money off of euthanizing j- so there's the street issue with the, with the zombies abusing dogs, and then the city just mass murdering dogs because they're not getting the proper funding and facilities, and they're not spaying and neutering and enforcing all the laws to keep, you know, street breeders from just flooding the streets with the dogs. So-

Joe Rogan 25:33 [sighs]

Spencer Pratt 25:33 ... back to you enforce the law, and this isn't impossible. I've, I've met with a lot of people that have real estate in Los Angeles, and they have real estate in San Francisco. And Mayor Lurie came in, and he started enforcing the law and just saying, "You can't do this." And he has c- cleaned up the city pretty well. You know, there's obviously people that say he's not doing enough, and again-

Joe Rogan 25:53 I'm sorry, what city is this?

Spencer Pratt 25:54 San Francisco.

Joe Rogan 25:55 San Francisco. All right.

Spencer Pratt 25:56 And so he, he took the call from the feds, and he said, "I'm gonna do this," and he's doing a, a solid job. Again, I'm going whole next level because I'm not concerned about optics. I'm not concerned about, oh, Spencer's doing this. He's so mean. No, what's mean is letting people live on the street in human poop and dying on the street. And these people I run against, they're all the same. They go, "Oh, we need more housing. We need more affordable housing. We need more beds. This isn't working. We..." They just keep doubling down.

Joe Rogan 26:24 Well, that's a false narrative.

Spencer Pratt 26:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:25 Everybody knows it's not a housing problem. It's not... That's not what it is. It's a drug abuse and mental health problem. That's all it is. It's not a housing problem. That's a flat-out lie, and anybody who says that should be shamed. When they say we need more affordable housing, well, you're fucking lying, and you're a part of the problem. If you're saying it's just an affordable housing problem, that means either you are a part of the propaganda narrative and you've been told to say this, or you're in on it.

Spencer Pratt 26:52 100%.

Joe Rogan 26:53 That's it.

Spencer Pratt 26:53 And what they do-

Joe Rogan 26:54 At this point, it's fucking nuts.

Spencer Pratt 26:57 N-

Joe Rogan 26:57 Skid Row is 50 blocks.

Spencer Pratt 26:59 It's, it can't even be called Skid Row anymore. It's called Los Angeles, where every community.

Joe Rogan 27:04 Right.

Spencer Pratt 27:04 Before my house burned down in the Palisades, my wife was ready to move because every morning in front of Palisades Elementary, that then burned down, and across the street at my son's preschool at Methodist, there was a lady cleaning her private parts in front of kids at 7:45 in the morning. You call LAPD, they pull up, and they go, "You don't know why," 'cause they can't enforce the law. She'd go around the corner, and she'd go number two in front of Joe's Barber Shop. C- I would know, uh, 'cause I had to step over the number two 'cause I'd always park right near Joe's Barber Shop. So it's not Skid Row. It's everywhere. It's-

Joe Rogan 27:38 So the police are told not to do anything about it? Is that what it is?

Spencer Pratt 27:43 If you don't enforce the law, what are they gonna do?

Joe Rogan 27:45 Right. So i- this comes down from the mayor.

Spencer Pratt 27:48 Of course. And then the mayor-

Joe Rogan 27:50 So the mayor-

Spencer Pratt 27:50 ... and the city attorney, if the mayor is not telling the city attorney to prosecute all these misdemeanors, put these people in mandatory ho- if you're cleaning your private parts in front of kids and you're a normal citizen, you are going to jail.

Joe Rogan 28:03 Right.

Spencer Pratt 28:03 You're gonna get be on the citizens app as a sex offender.

Joe Rogan 28:06 Yeah. Right.

Spencer Pratt 28:06 But the consequences for zombie people, they don't have them. And it's-

Joe Rogan 28:11 That's crazy

Spencer Pratt 28:12 ... it's not fair for all the normal tax-paying people in Los Angeles that we have to abide by laws, and then there's a whole class that's like, it's like anarchy. It's like, uh, it's psycho.

Joe Rogan 28:23 It's so weird to see, you know, uh, 'cause I lived in LA for so long, and when I first moved there in the '90s, there was nothing like this. It was, uh, it was nice, you know? I mean, there was a lot of traffic, but that was it. There was some crime, but it wasn't that bad, and everything just keeps getting worse and worse and worse, and it, it didn't seem really bad until... Well, Skid Row was always bad, and Skid Row was bad on purpose. So for people that don't know, and we, we looked into this because we w- uh, well, I found out about Skid Row, I knew it existed, but I found out about it when we were filming Fear Factor. So one day, 'cause we filmed a lot in downtown LA in a lot of these abandoned warehouses and buildings, and we were in one of these warehouses, and we left the set, and I drove home, and I took a wrong turn [chuckles] and, uh, I went down near the outskirts of Skid Row. And it's hard to believe that it's real if you haven't seen it. When you're talking just blocks and blocks and blocks where there's nothing but homeless people, just people on the streets, camped out, wandering through the streets. There's no cars driving whatsoever, garbage everywhere, and the idea that that's never been cleaned up is fucking insane. So what we found out is that that was an area a long time ago where they started moving people. I don't know when was this. This was the Jerome Hotel, right? That's what we talked about?

Spencer Pratt 29:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 29:52 That's what it was. So there was a documentary around the Jerome Hotel, and when we looked into it, it turns out that what w- they would do is they would find vagrants, which is what the old school term for it, and they would find them in Beverly Hills or Hollywood, and they would just move them to downtown LA to Skid Row and leave them there and keep them there. The idea was to keep them there. They had food there for them. They had kitchens, they let them k-Camp out on the street, just stay here. And it ruined all Cecil-

Spencer Pratt 30:22 Cecil.

Joe Rogan 30:22 The Cecil Hotel, that's right. So, uh, this is where they... So Cecil Hotel was, like, this beautiful hotel that existed in downtown LA, and now it's just, like, it's in Zombieland.

Spencer Pratt 30:34 Huh.

Joe Rogan 30:34 And the whole area is filled with fucking, just everything around it is homeless. Like, the, the sheer volume of it is impossible to describe unless you go there and see it. And the fact that that's never been addressed, that no one does anything about it, and it's emer- it's gotten to 50 entire blocks of nothing but homeless people. No businesses, no nothing. Nothing's functioning. It's all just taken over by zombies.

Spencer Pratt 31:00 I went to USC, and I lived in a loft on Skid Row at the top of the Old Bank District. So in 2003, that was my street that I would pull in and park. Very good deal. That's why I was like, "This is-

Joe Rogan 31:13 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 31:13 I got a entire penthouse. Why," you know, "I didn't get, you know, a 20. Why-

Joe Rogan 31:17 Right

Spencer Pratt 31:17 ... it was so cheap?" But, so I've seen the progression to the point where it's insane. And again, this is fixable.

Joe Rogan 31:26 Right.

Spencer Pratt 31:26 There's so much money. We're already paying for it.

Joe Rogan 31:28 Right.

Spencer Pratt 31:29 These people in charge don't wanna fix it. It's clear.

Joe Rogan 31:32 Right.

Spencer Pratt 31:32 And they'll continue doubling down. They need somebody to come and say, "Oh, we're done with this." And that's why I'm excited to actually be a mayor that's in these streets. And the... Here's what they keep saying, "Oh, you can't do this," 'cause the city council, they're all in on it, m- you know, 90% of them, 'cause they have four of these socialist DSA members on the city council that actually wanna destroy our way of life in Los Angeles.

Joe Rogan 31:55 Why do you think they wanna do that?

Spencer Pratt 31:58 Because they're socialists. Go on the DSA, Democratic Socialists of America's website, and they're not Democrats. They hate Democrats. They use the word to hide their true agenda of socialism. So they wanna keep taking as much of our tax money. And exact- the main lady I was talking about with that 60 million, she's one of these DSA people. She's bragging about taking $16 million of our tax money to give 40-plus people or 50 people 250,000 each to live in a tiny home. That is not a working solution. We need to have a f- a plan to get these people back into society, not bankroll an entire existence of Los Angeles where we're like, "Oh, you can just be a drug addict, and we're gonna pay for you because-"

Joe Rogan 32:41 Yeah, this is the problem with that narrative that the rich people aren't paying enough, and this is one of the things that I, I've, I've seen progressive podcasters talk about the wealth tax, and they were talking about imposing a wealth tax on billionaires. And they're like, "Stop being greedy. Pay your fair share." Like, what is your fair share, and where is it going? Like, if you could show me that an increase in taxes would fix all the problems... I said this when I lived there. I wouldn't mind paying more taxes if they fixed everything. But it doesn't seem like it fixes anything. Not one thing gets fixed, and they keep asking for more money, which is crazy. The solution is cut it all off. One of the things that Texas has: no state taxes. There's no state taxes. There's... You don't pay state taxes in Texas. In California, you pay 14%. So they're incentivized to take that money and do with it whatever they want. And so the more they can come up with, like building tiny homes or whatever the fuck it is, the... It's just incentives for them to siphon money.

Spencer Pratt 33:46 And again, as mayor, I wanna have full accountability and transparency where that's what everybody that's paying. If there's a lot of good people that are fine with paying as much tax as they want, if you're helping people-

Joe Rogan 33:58 Right

Spencer Pratt 33:58 ... get off the street, if the lights work, if the streets work-

Joe Rogan 34:01 If there's less crime-

Spencer Pratt 34:02 If all-

Joe Rogan 34:02 ... if it's safe-

Spencer Pratt 34:03 All this

Joe Rogan 34:03 ... if it's nice, if it's clean.

Spencer Pratt 34:04 So we need to track every single dollar and make sure that there's no waste and abuse. And with that type of live dashboard, and not track it with these weird data. I'm talking anyone can understand this money goes here, and it-

Joe Rogan 34:18 Right

Spencer Pratt 34:18 ... we're talking real accounting. They don't wanna do this because everyone's eating, everyone's getting a cut. All these people are living off of the scam. So you need to come in and really just say, "No more of this."

Joe Rogan 34:31 Well, so let's talk real-world practical application. So you get into office. Now you have all these council members that, these Democratic socialist people. How do you handle that? What do you do? How do you keep them from blocking all these things you're trying to do?

Spencer Pratt 34:46 N- so that is what excites me because there's never been a mayor that comes in and literally goes to each of their constituents of these districts. For instance, this DSA member wants to keep giving the fentanyl needles and the pipes. Then I go to that district, I have a press conference, I bring everybody, I say, "This so-and-so wants to keep these zombies going number two and having sex in front of your kids," and put the heat on the city council members. Right now they care about their jobs. They get 238,000 a year salary. They get, not even including their entourage. Then they get, you know, our grants and our tax money for all their little scams they're running. So they actually want those jobs. If a mayor comes in and is like, "Oh, we're g- I'm gonna put the heat on each one of you." 'Cause right now, the mayor, Karen Bass, isn't calling out each district and their failures. These, these constituents, the taxpayers need somebody to come in and expose each of these districts and go into their communities and be like, "This is what you're voting for." So at least at the next election, they're out. So then once they start feeling the pressure of somebody on their neck, they're gonna start, be like, "Oh, I don't want... I wanna keep my job. I like this power."

Joe Rogan 36:01 Well, well there's been a concerted effort to put those people into government, right? And you know, a lot of people point to George Soros, and he's one of them, and his Open Society Foundation is one of the people that likes to do that, particularly for very progressive prosecutors and DAs.But it's, there's more than just him. There's a, there's a whole machine behind it, and this is what I don't understand. Because if you wanted to destroy a city, if you wanted to destroy society, you would do it exactly the way they're doing it. So like what is their incentive, and why are they doing it this way?

Spencer Pratt 36:32 Well, they wanna destroy it to then rebuild it in their vision. The second my town burned down and it's all dirt, who's coming in with the ideas? "Oh, we got 100 million for affordable housing. We're gonna do this." They have a plan. They have a vision that's not gonna work, but they have their utopia that they would love to then rebuild-

Joe Rogan 36:51 Well, how do you, how do you say it's not gonna work? Like what's gonna stop them-

Spencer Pratt 36:54 Because so-

Joe Rogan 36:54 ... from doing that in the Palisades?

Spencer Pratt 36:54 'Cause socialism has failed everywhere. I'm saying-

Joe Rogan 36:57 Well, it's certainly gonna fail.

Spencer Pratt 36:58 Oh, oh.

Joe Rogan 36:58 But what's to stop them from ruining the Palisades?

Spencer Pratt 37:02 Well, I did. I stopped them. They can say that SB79 or whatever their, you know, housing thing was never gonna apply to Palisades, but after me attacking it all day for weeks, they added like 13 notes and made the Palisades a fire hazard area where you couldn't build high density. Because what they do, there's a new state law that just got passed, and if you're... Again, these aren't exact. All the YIMBYs are gonna go nuts I'm saying it wrong.

Joe Rogan 37:31 What's a YIMBY?

Spencer Pratt 37:33 Your... Something about your backyard, not my... I'll-

Joe Rogan 37:36 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 37:37 Who knows? I don't... You know, they're... I have to block them usually on, on social media. But I- they have a vision that everything in California and Los Angeles should be high density, how... Then we need to build these seven, nine story structures to have more affordable housing, so they wanna get rid of single family homes and put seven story buildings on. So the NIMBYs, not in, not in my backyard, they, they fight these people on, on X. So, you know, to be honest, I'm not either of them. They try to... I'm fine with more housing, but I also want people to have single family homes, and I think the fact that we lost the idea where we can't fight for the, the California dream to have a front yard with grass, and it's be- gotten so expensive and impossible, that should be the problem. Not that, "Oh, we've given up. Nobody should ever get that. We need to build these seven story prison-like structures and give anyone who can't afford just a box to live in." Let's fight to get the California where people had a front yard and grass and-

Joe Rogan 38:39 Well, it's also insane to try to do that with the Palisades 'cause the Palisades has always been a wealthy neighborhood where people with a lot of money spent a lot of money and also s- paid a lot of money in taxes and had these beautiful homes. And the idea that you're gonna take that over with low-income housing, well, those people are gonna move out of there, and there goes the tax money from those people. Not only that, those people lost their homes. Their homes were taken from them by the fire, and that's not fair. It's, it's not fair at all that you would just do that. It doesn't make any sense.

Spencer Pratt 39:11 I like to use the word stolen. Uh, the houses were stolen from Malibu. A misconception though, 'cause I'm from the Palisades and I grew up, the Palisades just became this wealthier, wealthier, you know, famous people in the last, let's say 10 years. But growing up-

Joe Rogan 39:27 That's it? Really?

Spencer Pratt 39:29 Yeah. Like when-

Joe Rogan 39:29 10 years?

Spencer Pratt 39:30 Where it's, we're talking big, you know, $40 million type big houses. Like when I grew up-

Joe Rogan 39:37 I thought it was always like that.

Spencer Pratt 39:38 No.

Joe Rogan 39:38 I thought it wa- it was always nice.

Spencer Pratt 39:39 It was nice, but you know, lawyers and doctor- you know, not Silicon Valley and movie star.

Joe Rogan 39:46 Got it.

Spencer Pratt 39:46 You know?

Joe Rogan 39:46 Right. Right.

Spencer Pratt 39:46 Hardworking people passed these houses down generations, so-

Joe Rogan 39:51 Mm-hmm

Spencer Pratt 39:51 ... they were nice houses, but you know, your great-grandfather probably passed the house down, and you know, my dad's a dentist. He came in, he was a surfing dentist, and was able to get a house in the Palisades. He-

Joe Rogan 40:01 And it's a beautiful area.

Spencer Pratt 40:02 Yeah, it's, it's, it's-

Joe Rogan 40:03 Gorgeous area.

Spencer Pratt 40:04 Unbelievable

Joe Rogan 40:04 Amazing weather.

Spencer Pratt 40:05 So-

Joe Rogan 40:06 And the bi- what people sh- should know that a, a s- an area bigger than the size of Manhattan burnt to the ground.

Spencer Pratt 40:13 So let's go back. Let's do the fire 'cause that, that's a great... We haven't even... You know, we just touched on it, but nobody's really talked about what happened, how this fire started, you know, why we're on the fire. So people would think about the Palisades fire and they go, "Oh, January 7th." Well, what happened, the fire for January 7th actually started on New Year's Eve. So there's a case right now, it's kinda fallen through the cracks. It, it, it may not go forward. There's a arson case. So supposedly, allegedly, this guy lit a fire at New Year's Eve with a lighter or a cigarette, and there was a eight-acre fire. Now, according to witness testimonies, about 30 people had saw fireworks go into this site called, uh, Lockman, Skull Rock. So at New Year's Eve, eight-acre fire starts, LAFD responds, but the issue what people don't understand, when they respond, they can't come up there with heavy dozers. So a dozer, like a bulldozer, has a rake-type s- thing on the front, and they clear around the fire, and they make a fire break even when the fire's going. Ideally, you'd want the fire break before, which because of California state parks and plant over people policies, we don't have fire breaks. So dead fuels, dead brush has been growing around lots of communities for 50, 60 years.

Joe Rogan 41:29 Right.

Spencer Pratt 41:29 So right now the Palisades burned down, but what's next is Brentwood, Hollywood, Hollywood Hills, uh, Sunland, Tujunga, um, what else? Bel Air. All these are going, they're... I'm sorry people who live here. They're all gonna burn down if we don't come in here, make fire breaks up 300 feet. Because when I met with Chief Bobby Garcia and I asked him about fire breaks, the purpose of the fire break is to give firefighters a chance to dig in, and when they drop the retardant, if there's not a 300-foot break, then, then all the retardant just falls through the different levels of the foliage and it doesn't make a moat. So when if you, you have a break, it creates a moat-type situation, and now the firefighters have a chance to get up there and respond. So back to January 1st. They couldn't bring their dozers up. We now have text messages because, again, I'm one of the lead plaintiffs suing the city of LA, LADWP, and the state of California State Parks. So I have all the text messages, public now. But we have the texts from the park rangers, the LAFD, and they're joking about, "Of course I'm not bringing any dozers. I know the rule. You know, protected plants." Keep in mind-I never knew about this plant. It's called milk vetch. Nobody respectfully cares about milk vetch, but somebody in the environmental world cares more about milk vetch than 12 people burning alive, 'cause the plant that was protected is the reason, pretty much, these people burned alive. So they do their best, you know, the LAFD puts it out, but now we know that the fire was still smoldering. We have hiking footage of the next day and the day after in the state park, Topanga State Park, hikers, tourists. We have a, a guy who lived down the street. Of course, he had his own drone that had... Not only a regular drone, he had a thermal in-imaging drone.

Joe Rogan 43:18 Oh, wow.

Spencer Pratt 43:18 So the whole hillside is just smoking, and we now have a firefighter, Pike, on his subpoena video, he says that he clearly saw smoldering pockets of coal that he didn't even wanna touch, and he informed his chief, "Hey, we can't pull the hoses." And the chief said, "Pull the hoses." Not just Pike, multiple firefighters have now said that it was all smoking, but-

Joe Rogan 43:44 Why would they pull the hoses?

Spencer Pratt 43:46 After meeting with so many firefighters since, I've realized the fire department is so understaffed, so underfunded. They're operating a fire department from the 1960s with 50% more calls now, 80% of them are for zombies, to overdoses. 30% of the fires are zombie encampment fires. So to me now, I'm trying to get in that chief... I spoke with that chief on the phone, and in my mind, it's a budget thing. Everything's

Spencer Pratt 44:16 just like, "Oh, we don't have, you know, clocks ticking in. We don't have the money to stay up here with the hoses." Because three years earlier, the same area in the Highlands, I think they left the hoses up in the Palisades for 18 months. You leave the hoses up 'cause it stays hot, and they have them up. They pulled them the next day. So I think it's a funding thing. I mean, the chief, Chief Crowley, who Mayor Bass fired in retaliation for telling the truth, seven weeks before the Palisades fire, she wrote a memo to Karen Bass and said, "I am dangerously underfunded. I cannot keep Angelenos safe." What does Mayor Bass do? Cuts another 17 million from the fire department. So in my mind, the chief's like, "I can't l- I don't have the money to leave guys up here. We gotta go."

Joe Rogan 44:58 So has anyone asked her what was her justification for the cuts?

Spencer Pratt 45:02 Well, the city's broke. The city has no money.

Joe Rogan 45:04 But how do they have so much money to buy homes and homeless shelters and spend all that money?

Spencer Pratt 45:09 Here's the best part. I've now found out since then, there was $400 million just in an account that they hadn't even touched for homeless in... Literally, at the time she cut the 17 million, there's 400 million that right now is still there that they haven't used, allocated 400 million. So it's, they got it for the zombies, not for the tax-paying citizens' public safety. Not to mention, back to the taxpayers, the Palisades probably is largely at, at the time of the fire, was probably the most money in taxes was going to the city from the Palisades.

Joe Rogan 45:42 Right.

Spencer Pratt 45:42 So you don't... Back to, back to Lockman. So they leave because if you listen to their testimony, the state park rangers say, "Oh, we got this. We'll keep an eye on this," da, da, da, da, da. In the subpoenaed depositions, they ask one of the state park rangers, "Well, did you see the smoldering hill?" They say, "Uh, yeah." "What'd you do?" "Oh, I took a photo." "What'd you do with the photo?" "Nothing." "What do you mean?" "Well, I'm not a firefighter."

Joe Rogan 46:05 Oh, Jesus.

Spencer Pratt 46:05 So the state park's own manual says they're supposed to close this park, uh, to make sure it's not a dangerous condition, obviously, and to monitor it. Did they close the state park? No, worse. Guess what the state park m- rangers asked the firefighters to do? And there's photos. It's mind-boggling. They asked the firefighters to take dead brush and fuel, and they carry it, and they put it over the fire break from a day earlier around where they made the fire break, around that January 1st. They take the dead bushes, and they cover up the fire break. There's photos of it. It's the craziest thing you ever seen.

Joe Rogan 46:40 What?

Spencer Pratt 46:41 Because they didn't want people to go on the wrong trails because they look like hiking trails now.

Joe Rogan 46:46 Oh, my God.

Spencer Pratt 46:47 So they take-

Joe Rogan 46:48 So if you wanted to be cynical, do you think that the, having this $400 million and keeping it in there and keeping, funneling money into homelessness and not into the fire department is simply because the fire department is not profitable? You can't siphon money off of the fire department. The fire department basically just goes to fight fires. It goes to equipment, people's salaries, maintaining the fire departments. It, it, you can't steal that money.

Spencer Pratt 47:14 You wanna know how sick it is right now? The fire department, LAFD, their union, all the members... Ha, get, like, choked up. I feel so... 'Cause I met with these, you know, I keep meeting with these guys, and you hear from their heart. You're like, "Oh, this is so heavy." They had to take their own money to get on a ballot measure, a million dollars. They all pooled it together to get a ballot measure this coming election to get a half cent on sales tax in LA so that they could have money to fund s- actual things they need to keep-

Joe Rogan 47:43 A half a cent.

Spencer Pratt 47:43 A half a cent on all the... But the point is-

Joe Rogan 47:46 That's it

Spencer Pratt 47:46 ... they need to go out of their own pocket to get a ballot measure because they know they will never get funded by the city to keep Angelenos safe, that they gotta go out of the, and make their own-

Joe Rogan 47:56 But there's only one way to look at it. You g- you, you would look at it like, well, what would be the logical reason why they would allocate so much money towards homelessness and so little towards the fire department? When the fire department is... You know, I've said this before, but if you wanna talk about, like, socialism that works, the fire department is socialism that works. If you really care about socialism, and that's the thing that you really believe in, there's certain aspects of socialism that are applicable in a healthy community. One of them is the fire department, that your money should go, we should pool some of our taxes to go to make sure that we're all protected, and the fire department doesn't just protect the rich people, protects all people. Fires break out, the fire department comes in, regardless whether you have any money or not. We all pool our money together for the fire department. It makes sense. But if it's that-You can't steal that money, right? So there's no way you can fig- the homelessness is, it's vague, it's weird. You can hide it. It's like you, you're counting bodies on the street. Oh, one, two, three, let's write 5,000. Like, you don't have, like, real accounting these people because it's so chaotic. But fire department, you know the employees. You know the fire department. You know where the trucks are. You know where everything is. You can't steal that money. But that homeless budget, boy, there's a lot of wiggle room in that homeless budget. And if you wanted to be cynical, you would say that's why they fun- they fund the fire department so little and they fund the homeless so much.

Spencer Pratt 49:28 Well, also, these DSA socialists, they don't wanna fund the fire department. They don't wanna fund the, the police department. They want these type of entities to be defunded. They don't even want them to exist. It's on the-

Joe Rogan 49:41 So what do they expect when fires happen?

Spencer Pratt 49:43 To let us... Right now they want things just to burn. Go... If you look around the city-

Joe Rogan 49:48 How the fuck do these people get in office? Like, who's voting for them?

Spencer Pratt 49:51 They're tricky. They have these ground teams, and they go around, they got a real ground game, and they go knock on old people's doors and they say, "Oh, we're Democrats. We help the..." They have nice words and they got a strong... Like, in LA I think there's 5,000 at least members that can hit the street, whereas a normal, you know, for instance, Spencer Pratt running for mayor, I don't have 5,000 people on deck to go knock on doors. And not to mention, they're funded. They have 100,000-plus members across the US. They have outside entities that give them money. And again, they're sneaky. If you go watch on YouTube videos, they talk so much S-H-I-T about Democrats. Republi- they hate all these people, so they don't want either party. They want them. Here's the craziest part. This should be illegal. Like, right now, the one who's running against me, their Democrat, you know, socialist, Champagne Queen, she, when you sign up with the DSA, you sign a, like a, like a contract to co-govern with the DSA. How is it legal when you are-

Joe Rogan 50:52 What?

Spencer Pratt 50:53 Yes.

Joe Rogan 50:53 Wait a minute. Explain that.

Spencer Pratt 50:55 So when you become, you get a c- you're a DSA member. So right now she's a city council member.

Joe Rogan 51:00 Uh-huh.

Spencer Pratt 51:00 And when the DSA gives you an endorsement, you sign a contract with them to co-govern. So right now she's not representing her district as an American citizen, a Los Angelino.

Joe Rogan 51:10 She's representing the Democrat Socialists of America.

Spencer Pratt 51:13 Yes.

Joe Rogan 51:13 Wow.

Spencer Pratt 51:14 And that should be-

Joe Rogan 51:15 Co-govern.

Spencer Pratt 51:15 That should be illegal. I mean, illegal.

Joe Rogan 51:17 And so they can just go full ham with all these radical ideas.

Spencer Pratt 51:21 Yeah, and their idea is to just come in, take all of our tax money, and keep trying to invent this... They've ha- like for instance, that lady has had six years in charge of her city council. Her, thousands of her constituents message me photos. It looks like, again, Mad Max in her area. So we're gonna put her in charge? The only thing worse actually than the Cuban communist Karen Bass is actually a socialist DSA. So I'm running against worse and worse. It's, it's truly-

Joe Rogan 51:52 Is Karen Bass running for re-election?

Spencer Pratt 51:54 Yeah. That's why I stepped in. When I saw her announce, I was like, "Oh no, you don't get to burn my house down."

Joe Rogan 51:59 Do people-

Spencer Pratt 52:00 Cover-"

Joe Rogan 52:00 Like, what is, what is the general population? Like, what, how... I think most people h- have jobs and families and they're busy. They're very busy, so it's very difficult to be completely informed about all this. What is the general perception of Karen Bass? Like, what is her approval rating in Los Angeles?

Spencer Pratt 52:17 So she has the record lowest approval ra- rating in the history right now. So UCLA just did a poll about a week ago. I'm number two to Karen Bass. She has, I think, approximately 20-something percent, think I have 13%, with 40% undecided. Those 40%, I keep saying, those are my voters. Those are people that are fed up. They know they're not voting for Karen Bass. They just don't know there's a guy named Spencer Pratt that's saying, "We need common sense. We need to clean these streets. No more fentanyl at the park." Parents need to feel comfortable taking their kids to school without seeing meth zombies having sex on the side of the street. We're talking common sense. This is not political, what I'm running on. Not to mention the mayor is a nonpartisan race. There's no letters on it for a reason. The mayor's supposed to represent all of Los Angeles, period. It's not up... You'll never get me ever doing these performative politics, talking about national issues, doing the bait-and-switch stuff where, oh, talking about over here while I destroy your actual local government. That's the problem. Everyone gets caught up in the media, and they follow what's going on in different states and different politics and the, and the federal government when the people that really affect your life, who are destroying your way of life, are your local government, your mayor, your city council, your fire commission, your police commission. When I'm mayor, I'm wiping out this fire commission. We're putting actual experts that know what they're talking about, not these rando political pointy lunatics. Same with the police c- commission. You need to have people that pride themselves in law enforcement and want accountability and want the best from the police department. You know the police department is the lowest it's been in 30 years in Los Angeles? And here's my favorite thing.

Joe Rogan 54:02 In terms of staff? In terms-

Spencer Pratt 54:03 Yeah, in term of police officers.

Joe Rogan 54:05 30 years.

Spencer Pratt 54:06 30 years. Here's the best part. They'll tell you, the mayor said crime is down. I have truly, 'cause I spend all day long just reading DMs, read-

Joe Rogan 54:15 It's, it's down in terms of its reporting.

Spencer Pratt 54:17 [laughs] Thank you. Every message I get, they say, "Call 911." You'll be on hold for God knows how long. If they ever pick up, if it's literally not, like, a somebody's getting shot at that moment-You know, if you're trying to report crime or this, they're not coming. Nobody's filing it. They don't have the staff to be doing that. So the real crime numbers are so insane. Not to mention, Karen Bass will brag about homicides are down. First off, that's a national trend. She taking credit for the whole United States down, but I even have another angle on that. I'd have to go probably to some emergency hospitals, but I think Los Angeles has such good trauma nurses and trauma doctors, the amount of stabbings and shootings, they probably keep people alive. That's the real number. You know, maybe 30 years ago before we were so good with quick clot and, you know, and, you know, God knows we have so much stuff now-

Joe Rogan 55:12 Right

Spencer Pratt 55:13 ... that keeps people alive. Just on the Metro alone, the stabbings are, everything is double last year. So these people are living, but everyone's getting stabbed everywhere. I keep joking that everyone loved that guy in New York, Mondami or whatever his name is, because he said everything's gonna be free. Well, as mayor on, on the Metros in Los Angeles, Mayor Pratt will make sure you're gonna be free from stabbings.

Joe Rogan 55:36 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 55:36 So there you go. You're welcome.

Joe Rogan 55:39 Yeah, that's a, that's a good point. It's like, just because the actual murders are down, it doesn't mean that the actual violence is down. New analysis by LA City Controller says that at least 513 million meant to help homeless went unspent.

Speaker 55:54 This was just 2024. That's about 400 plus in 2025 also.

Joe Rogan 55:59 Good Lord.

Spencer Pratt 56:00 Yeah. The, the, the-

Joe Rogan 56:00 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 56:00 ... 400 is for sure like... And just last-

Joe Rogan 56:03 And then where's that money go?

Spencer Pratt 56:06 Yes. Just last week, the federal government paused a $400 million payment that was coming because they said all these federal audits aren't, you're not showing the books, so just the money is just coming. And that's, we're just talking LA, which is the epicenter of the whole state of California. You know, all this fraud that you keep hearing about everything, it all comes from LA and then goes out to California. It's like LA is the-

Joe Rogan 56:31 Epicenter

Spencer Pratt 56:31 ... death star.

Joe Rogan 56:32 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 56:32 You know? And, and that's why I'm coming in, Luke Skywalker. I'm like [laughs]

Joe Rogan 56:36 Well, Nick Shirley started doing investigations into all sorts of other fraud that's all around Los Angeles with hospices and all these different things, and they're finding hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud, like facts.

Spencer Pratt 56:48 But not for much longer because he could be facing a $10,000 fine-

Joe Rogan 56:53 Isn't that crazy?

Spencer Pratt 56:53 ... according to the new, uh, California bill yesterday or whatever.

Joe Rogan 56:56 So this is a new bill. Instead of saying, "Wow, thank you for uncovering this fraud," they passed a bill that if you film things and you go to a place and identify that place, and then somehow or another, those people, what, get harassed or something because of it, you could get fined.

Spencer Pratt 57:17 Yeah. So I was already saying on my own podcast, my plan as mayor, 'cause everyone kept being like, "Oh, you need Nick Shirley." No, what I need is all of Los Angeles to be a Nick Shirley. I, as mayor, am gonna offer cash bounties. If you film any fraud, city workers doing something suspicious, any type of scams, and you bring it to the mayor's office and we check it out, I'm gonna pay you. So now I gotta deal with the state, you know, if that passes. But I was already gonna just make the city become these Nick Shirley. Everybody has an iPhone.

Joe Rogan 57:49 What an, what an insane response.

Spencer Pratt 57:51 Oh, we're-

Joe Rogan 57:51 What an insane response.

Spencer Pratt 57:52 We're in... It's a cartel.

Joe Rogan 57:52 Instead of thanking someone for uncovering criminal fraud, you make a new law where you turn them into criminals.

Spencer Pratt 58:01 These people are laundering more money than El Chapo.

Joe Rogan 58:03 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 58:04 Like this-

Joe Rogan 58:05 Oh, yeah

Spencer Pratt 58:05 ... that's what I, that's what I keep trying to say. This is-

Joe Rogan 58:06 Oh, it's billions. Billions and billions of dollars

Spencer Pratt 58:08 ... this is real criminals. Like the Gotti, all these people we used to think were mobsters at the Italian shops back in the day, they couldn't even comprehend what's going on right now. And then even on the city level, like when I went and met in a fire station, they were telling me about how if a refrigerator, this is mafia stuff, if a refrigerator breaks, you know, firefighters, they know how to take the refrigerator and they put it out. The city person comes in, they go, "Oh, no. Put that back in. Well, you can't have that taken in." So they make them put the, the broken thing back in before the next person comes, and then it costs like $50,000 and this only, this one city contract can fix it. It's not for, you know, up for bid, and that is where all this extra money that isn't going to actually getting these firefighters with anything. The fire station I was at, they had a fire truck that should've been in, retired in Mexico 10 years ago, and instead they like pay to put a new back bumper on it, and they just, it's cr- these guys have to pay out of their own pocket for the blinds, the paint, and they do it because they live here. It's so sad where LAFD used to be the symbol of great, like the GOAT firefighters that everyone looked to, how we've just let it fall apart. Same with LAPD. We have just no pride. And what's happening is the Olympics are coming, and what I keep telling everybody is we are gonna have a terrorist attack. It's, 'cause we're not even safe for our streets right now. They're not even protected. If we do fires alone, all a terrorist cell needs to do is get five of those black e-bikes and they need to go on a windy day leading up to the Olympics, go around with road flares, tossing them out on all the 50 years of dead brush. The entire city will look like a nuclear bomb went off. Look at the Palisades.

Joe Rogan 59:56 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 59:57 One area. All five bad guys, bad actors go around and do that, it's, it's done.

Joe Rogan 1:00:03 And by the way, there's a lot of evidence that a lot of the fire in the Palisades, not just the initial fire, but subsequent fires were caused by arson. In fact, my friend Andrew filmed some guys doing it. He filmed guys lighting things on fire. He filmed it in his car. He was watching these vagrants, filming them lighting things on fire.

Spencer Pratt 1:00:23 Two days ago, there's photos of, of vagrant homeless zombie in the Palisades trying to light a fire right now. Thankfully, the area has no, hasn't grown back yet, but they're two days ago. These-Pe- zombies. People don't like the word zombie, but they are zombies. What... Yes, there's different boxes of homelessness. There's, there's people that need help and-

Joe Rogan 1:00:47 Down on their luck

Spencer Pratt 1:00:48 ... down on their luck.

Joe Rogan 1:00:49 Yep.

Spencer Pratt 1:00:49 They've lost their job quick, boom. That is one box. It's a very small box, but we- I am aware of those. Then there is a 95% box that are people that are just-

Joe Rogan 1:00:59 Fentanyl zombies

Spencer Pratt 1:01:00 ... fentanyl zombies, meth, just wanna live on the streets and be a drug addict right now. Maybe some of those people get help, they get sober, get proper treatment. Now they get a new chance at life. Then there's another box that are just people that wanna do drugs and be a bad person. We have to acknowledge there's actually just bad people that are in a different box, so-

Joe Rogan 1:01:21 But there's also people that want everything else to fall apart 'cause their life is in the shit. They live in shit. Their, their life is hell, and they don't wanna see you drive by in a Lexus. They don't wanna see you go to your nice house. They don't wanna see any of that. They wanna light things on fire.

Spencer Pratt 1:01:37 Well, that's how also these DSA people get support, because they've destroyed the city so much, you look around and you think, oh, the American dream is broken. Capitalism is broken. But they're the ones that broke it. So if you're just like a young 20-year-old looking around, you're like, "Oh my God, there's zombies everywhere, rent's so much, all the restaurants are closing. This system doesn't work." But what they're not looking at is who's breaking the system that did work, the one that I grew up in that was so beautiful. Over 100 restaurants in LA have closed this year. Over 100. And these aren't chains. These are people that put their, you know, life into this. These are chefs. And they can't make it in a place that was a go-to food spot. It-

Joe Rogan 1:02:20 Well, where I used to do comedy in Los Angeles on Sunset at The Comedy Store, if you drive down Sunset now, everything is for lease. It's fucking nuts. It used to be very difficult to get a property on Sunset 'cause it was so valuable. In the '90s and the early 2000s, like, everybody wanted to have a restaurant on Sunset. Everybody wanted to have a bar on Sunset because that's where everybody went. There was always cars, and it was nice, and you could walk on the street. We would walk down to get food. We would go to The Stand after, we would... Or the, The Standard, rather, after we would, uh, go to the co- I would fucking never walk down that street now. It was normal.

Spencer Pratt 1:02:56 And that's you trained up, you know, ready to go with a sidekick. Imagine a lovely lady-

Joe Rogan 1:03:02 Right

Spencer Pratt 1:03:02 ... that just wants to walk her little dog. The amount of people that just are just dog walkers that are like, "I'm scared-

Joe Rogan 1:03:08 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:03:08 ... to walk my dog." I had, I won't say which newscaster, but I had a newscaster off camera recently that said, "Everything you're saying is true." She goes, "Every morning I have to get up at 5:00 AM because it's the safest time for me to do my morning run. Every day, naked zombie ru-" She said, "I'm running by a naked zombie trying to..." Can you imagine not... You know, y- you and I don't wanna go walk on the street, but just, like, a woman with their little dog-

Joe Rogan 1:03:31 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:03:32 ... or moms with strollers, and it's not... It's across the entire city. I watch news in Spanish where these underpasses in South Central or East LA, these families have been coming to the news and they're like, "Please," 'cause they're having to take their kids under these underpasses with encampments to get to the schools. It's not just, like, a Hollywood thing-

Joe Rogan 1:03:51 Right

Spencer Pratt 1:03:51 ... or a Valley th- it's everywhere.

Joe Rogan 1:03:53 It's everywhere.

Spencer Pratt 1:03:54 And the p-

Joe Rogan 1:03:54 I don't think people understand that. Can we show some videos? Let's show some videos of some of the, the real chaotic homelessness in Los Angeles so people can get a look at it. Because, uh, you know, I've had some friends send me videos. Like, my friend Whitney Cummings, she went, uh, through Los Angeles, uh, a couple months ago and she sent me a video. And I was like, "This is fucking nuts." 'Cause I, I haven't been. I don't go there anymore, man. I fucking avoid that place like the plague. I used to love it. I used to love it. I never even thought, until the pandemic hit, I, I was like, "I'll be probably here forever." And now it's just nuts.

Speaker 1:04:30 This is the Street People of Los Angeles Instagram account. They show this stuff all the time.

Joe Rogan 1:04:34 Street People of Los Angeles Instagram account. Okay.

Speaker 1:04:37 This is a dad and a son walking by.

Joe Rogan 1:04:39 Yeah. Well, this is a small-

Spencer Pratt 1:04:41 That's in the Valley

Joe Rogan 1:04:42 ... well, I'm not gonna say-

Spencer Pratt 1:04:42 No, but-

Joe Rogan 1:04:42 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:04:43 ... the point is, again, I posted this also, in the sense that-

Speaker 1:04:47 Woodland Hills

Spencer Pratt 1:04:47 ... look at these little kids. They gotta go by... This is some of the-

Joe Rogan 1:04:50 We used to have our studio in Woodland Hills, and we used to have guys that were camping out right in front. Look at that. Even Perez Hilton is on your side. "Pratt is the path what Los Angeles needs." [laughs] You see that, Pratt?

Spencer Pratt 1:05:01 No, he's-

Joe Rogan 1:05:02 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:05:02 Perez. God bless Perez.

Joe Rogan 1:05:04 [laughs] He might be the only person saying that.

Spencer Pratt 1:05:06 No, he had a, he had a near-death experience and came to Jesus, and-

Joe Rogan 1:05:09 Oh

Spencer Pratt 1:05:10 ... yeah, he's all-

Joe Rogan 1:05:10 Good for him

Spencer Pratt 1:05:11 ... he's locked in on the-

Joe Rogan 1:05:12 Oh, the sticks.

Spencer Pratt 1:05:13 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:05:13 Was that somebody dying?

Spencer Pratt 1:05:13 No, he di- he died twice pretty much. So he-

Joe Rogan 1:05:16 From what? What happened?

Spencer Pratt 1:05:17 He had a... He took antibiotics without food when he... Which I didn't know was a thing. That's why they say to take food. And then, again, I'm gonna say this wrong, but whatever that creates, some situation, boom, now he has sepsis and he's-

Joe Rogan 1:05:32 Oh, Jesus

Spencer Pratt 1:05:33 ... next to death for 30 days, and then when he just got out of the hospital, then he has a blood clot. No, so he's, like, Bible all day. He had a-

Joe Rogan 1:05:41 Wow

Spencer Pratt 1:05:41 ... he talked to God when he was, like, dead. So I think he's-

Joe Rogan 1:05:44 Whoa

Spencer Pratt 1:05:45 ... for real, for real.

Joe Rogan 1:05:46 Okay.

Spencer Pratt 1:05:46 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:46 Well, that would be nice.

Spencer Pratt 1:05:47 Yeah. Oh, he's-

Joe Rogan 1:05:48 That's... We-

Spencer Pratt 1:05:49 I mean, he-

Joe Rogan 1:05:49 We use another nice person in the world

Spencer Pratt 1:05:51 ... oh, and, and he's a powerful prayer warrior now.

Joe Rogan 1:05:52 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:05:53 So, you know.

Joe Rogan 1:05:55 Um, show me some Skid Row. Some Skid Row footage is the nuttiest.

Speaker 1:05:58 Give me a second.

Joe Rogan 1:05:59 Okay. Uh, Skid Row footage is the, the real... That's the real red pill where you're like-

Spencer Pratt 1:06:03 I'm in

Joe Rogan 1:06:04 ... you're like, "How?" I... It's just, there's no better way to describe it than how you described it earlier. It's literally like a criminal cartel. It's a criminal cartel that's siphoning money off of people. Look at that guy. Just needs a job. These ju- these people just need a home. Come on, man. This is, this is not that bad. This is mi-

Spencer Pratt 1:06:23 Those are nice, yeah

Joe Rogan 1:06:23 ... this is very minor. Like, if you... There's certain areas of Skid Row. Like, look how they have tents, which is so crazy. Just-

Spencer Pratt 1:06:29 Well, you paid for that. You didn't, I did.

Joe Rogan 1:06:31 Oh, look at this.

Spencer Pratt 1:06:32 Those tents.

Joe Rogan 1:06:32 This guy's protecting-

Spencer Pratt 1:06:33 Oh

Joe Rogan 1:06:33 ... against vampires. Yeah. Just-

Spencer Pratt 1:06:36 These are nice clips. We just need-

Joe Rogan 1:06:37 That guy just needs a job, dude. RelaxPoor dog.

Spencer Pratt 1:06:41 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:06:42 I know. I see dogs with homeless people. I just wanna... I'm, I'm such a dog lover, I can't go to the dog pound. If I went to the dog pound, I'd have 100 dogs, and my wife would never let that happen. But I, that drives me nuts.

Spencer Pratt 1:06:53 So that guy there and the fentanyl-

Joe Rogan 1:06:55 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:06:55 ... these fentanyl hangs, they don't need beds.

Joe Rogan 1:06:57 Right.

Spencer Pratt 1:06:58 That's not a bed issue.

Joe Rogan 1:06:59 No.

Spencer Pratt 1:06:59 It's not a housing-

Joe Rogan 1:07:00 They need to get cleaned up. And for people that don't know, this was not like this. This was not like this a decade ago. This is a rapid decline in what this city looks like.

Spencer Pratt 1:07:13 Oh, there's some nice people. Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:07:15 It's just crazy. It's a... I, this is not as radical as it could be. Skid Row is really, if you could find some-

Speaker 1:07:25 Well, I mean, there's, there's-

Spencer Pratt 1:07:25 I mean, you-

Speaker 1:07:26 ... there's innumerable videos. I can't click, uncheck them all fast enough, but they're all over.

Joe Rogan 1:07:29 All right, try this one.

Spencer Pratt 1:07:30 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:07:30 Skid Row, right, right there.

Speaker 1:07:32 It's got 600 views. I was gonna try to find one.

Spencer Pratt 1:07:33 But the reality is it's-

Joe Rogan 1:07:33 Well, what, what's below that, right there, that one.

Speaker 1:07:35 There's also-

Joe Rogan 1:07:35 I spent a day on Skid Row

Speaker 1:07:37 ... some AI generated ones.

Joe Rogan 1:07:37 There was a co- a, a comic in, um, the early 2000s that went undercover and lived on Skid Row for a couple of days to film things, and it was pretty astonishing even back then. But again, this is a created environment that they created because they didn't wanna deal with the homeless people, and they're like, "You know what we should do? We should just take these people and put them in one spot and don't let them leave." And that's how they created Skid Row. And, you know, decades later, you have five zero, 50 blocks of nothing but this kinda shit, where it's just fucking chaos. It's just homeless people everywhere, and it's so sad. All lost lives. You know, as a father, you know, you're a father. These are, this is someone's children. This was someone had a baby, and that baby they loved more than anything. They're like, "Oh my God, they're so precious." That precious person is now in the middle of an intersection hunched over on fentanyl-

Spencer Pratt 1:08:32 Well, the amount of people that-

Joe Rogan 1:08:33 ... shitting in the streets

Spencer Pratt 1:08:33 ... that message me and say, "Thank you. My so and so, brother, daughter, son, died of fentanyl overdose." These people need mandatory treatment.

Joe Rogan 1:08:44 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:08:44 They don't need just, "Oh, if you want, we have these needles for you. We have, we have street med teams where we can come and..." You know, it's, it's crazy. And it's back to being a dad. I'm only running for mayor to, to, one last Hail Mary to try to save the city I love and grew up. So God willing-

Joe Rogan 1:09:04 And if it doesn't work, you're out?

Spencer Pratt 1:09:04 Whoa, they already burned my, down my house. That's what the LA Times was... That's the funniest. Did you see this?

Joe Rogan 1:09:09 No.

Spencer Pratt 1:09:09 So they tried to do a hit piece, LA Times, and say that I wasn't eligible to run for mayor because my house burned down.

Joe Rogan 1:09:18 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:09:18 This was, this was last week. No, I'm not, I'm not kidding. This is real.

Joe Rogan 1:09:21 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:09:21 So [laughs] and they were like, "Oh, he's living in Santa Barbara right now." He-

Joe Rogan 1:09:25 I thought the LA Times had become more reasonable when that guy owned it.

Spencer Pratt 1:09:29 That was completely not true.

Joe Rogan 1:09:31 Really?

Spencer Pratt 1:09:31 And the funniest part is the LA Times is in El Segundo for the last eight years.

Joe Rogan 1:09:35 Ah. [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:09:35 So they're the ones that should be worried about... So what happens is they say, "Oh, it's up in the air 'cause he's in Santa..." So I call the city clerk and I say, "Hey, the LA Times is reporting that I... I'm not, I know I'm eligible. Everybody knows." It's like saying that 7,000 people's houses burned down now can't vote.

Joe Rogan 1:09:52 Right.

Spencer Pratt 1:09:53 They can't vote.

Joe Rogan 1:09:53 Because you don't have a house there.

Spencer Pratt 1:09:54 'Cause Karen Bass, who you're not supposed to vote for-

Joe Rogan 1:09:57 Oh, God

Spencer Pratt 1:09:57 ... because she burned your house down, you can't vote for her. So he's like-

Joe Rogan 1:09:59 Oh, God

Spencer Pratt 1:10:00 ... "Of course you can run." I said, "Anybody can call and ask this?" He's like, "Yes, it's on our website." So it was a, just a full hit piece.

Joe Rogan 1:10:06 So why would the LA Times... Uh, who is the person who wrote that story?

Spencer Pratt 1:10:09 This guy Noah Goldberg. And why is 'cause he's pushing the Nithya Raman. There's a video of him at the bar with her like, "Yay." They, they want-

Joe Rogan 1:10:18 And she's the Democratic socialist?

Spencer Pratt 1:10:19 Yes. And LA Times wants their own clickbaity Mondami. They try to make their... Mondami is a custom-built Manchurian candidate 20 years in the making. He's a star. That's why he's got the smile. You can't take this bootleg wannabe and try to cook her into it. So they drop this fake hit piece on me the day the UCLA poll comes out that has me in the lead and not the one that they had just run some fake DSA, you know, BS poll that nobody believed. It, it was movie scene.

Joe Rogan 1:10:49 How is this person doing in the polls, this person that you're running against?

Spencer Pratt 1:10:53 They're at 9%, I think. But again, the polls, I'm in number one. Anybody who... They know this. She's in charge on the city council. She's the chairperson of the homeless-

Joe Rogan 1:11:03 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:11:03 ... of the homeless plan. Okay? She wants to... What's she gonna change?

Joe Rogan 1:11:08 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:11:09 She's had six years. So we're gonna-

Joe Rogan 1:11:11 Right

Spencer Pratt 1:11:11 ... we're gonna put... Oh, a- and then she's tweeting or Xing or whatever we call it, like, "My new plan, homeless is not working." Oh, s- so you just announced you're running for mayor. The best part is she's had six years to not say any of these problems until she's running for mayor. These politicians are just... It's the problem back to pe-

Joe Rogan 1:11:29 They're demons.

Spencer Pratt 1:11:30 The problem is people have jobs. People aren't paying attention-

Joe Rogan 1:11:33 Right

Spencer Pratt 1:11:33 ... like me.

Joe Rogan 1:11:34 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:11:34 They just hear the little fake, "I care. This isn't working. I blah." Oh, she's a city council member. Oh, she's a Democrat. No, she's not. She's not a Democrat. I'm the one who's been fighting for Democrats for the last year and a half to expose all of this fraud, our literal city letting our town burn to the ground. So that's when I really stepped up. So I watched this movie, Hot Shot, a documentary on, you know, fires, and I see in this documentary 100 mile per hour, I think it was the Oak, the Oak Fire, I don't know, in the, in the film, and you see 100 mile per hour wind, and the firefighters are just standing there with like garden hoses. And you're seeing that a 100 mile per hour wind does not mean everything burns down because this community had fire breaks. So then I like see who this guy who like lived with these, these hot shots for six years. So I find him on X, and he's live streaming, talking about how the Palisades fire, before anybody, was at n- not started on January 7th, but a rekindle from that first fire. When the LAFD, this is where it gets so conspiracy Chinatown movie type shit, um, they hired a crisis PR firm, The Lead Company. Here's the best part. Guess where they got the money, the, the mayor's office, where they got the money to hire the crisis? From the LAF-The foundation, they used charity money to hire a crisis team to alter the after-action report that says all these things that went wrong to make the mayor, Karen Bass, look good.

Joe Rogan 1:13:10 Oh my God.

Spencer Pratt 1:13:12 So I find this out because I start, you know, posting about what this, this director, Gabriel Mann, is saying about, you know, the Palisades fires. I'm posting now, I got info, so now firefighters start coming to my DMs as whistleblowers. Like, "Hey, just so you know, the after-action report that went out, that was the ninth version, and the battalion chief that wrote it wouldn't put his name on it because they changed it so much." So I do a post about that. Three weeks later, the LA Times, uh, everything I post, three weeks later, they would steal my thing, and it'd be like, "Pulitzer Prize-winning guy." And it's like, I posted that three weeks ago, 'cause the firefighters were coming to me and telling me what was going on behind the scenes. So also, as mayor, I'm gonna make sure that the fire department, the fire chief, has, uh, civil protections again. So right now the fire chief is like a puppet. They have to do whatever the mayor says, cover up for the mayor. They're just another politician. They need to be responsible for the Angelenos, the public, and they don't have that protection. The mayor can just get rid of them. So you gotta give them these civil protections back like they have. The mayor can't just get rid of the police chief, for instance. But that's when I was like, oh, these people are-

Joe Rogan 1:14:22 It's organized crime.

Spencer Pratt 1:14:23 Thank you. Like, I'm like... And here's the-

Joe Rogan 1:14:25 Sounds, sounds like the mob.

Spencer Pratt 1:14:25 Here's where the best part. Do you know when the mayor was in Ghana as everything was burning down?

Joe Rogan 1:14:30 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:14:30 Do you know who she left in charge? Her deputy mayor. Do you know where the deputy mayor was? The deputy mayor, Mayor Karen Bass' deputy mayor, was on house arrest because he was arrested for calling in a bomb threat to City Hall. This is real life.

Joe Rogan 1:14:47 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:14:47 This is, this is the person that's supposed to take the call because she's in Africa.

Joe Rogan 1:14:51 Why did he call in a bomb threat to City Hall?

Spencer Pratt 1:14:55 Great question.

Joe Rogan 1:14:59 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:14:59 [laughs] I, I, I was... I, you know? So that's who-

Joe Rogan 1:15:01 Ugh

Spencer Pratt 1:15:01 ... the type of people we're dealing with. So when they're like, "Oh, Spencer, you don't have the experience to be mayor," well, I promise my deputy mayors that I have on deck, they aren't calling in any bomb threats to City Hall. So we're already starting ahead of the curve. Also, I'm not going in to steal taxpayer money. I'm going in to stop all this. So again, I really believe there's enough common sense people that see that I'm not doing politics. I don't wanna g- do any of this. Politics are, it's a job. These people are career politicians. I never wanted to be a career politician. Before my house burned down, I was selling my healing crystals. [laughs] They, just to be clear, they have no magical powers. They all burned in my house. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:15:40 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:15:40 So anybody, you know, you're buying them, they, uh, you know, I thought they had protection energy. Uh, uh, they don't. So-

Joe Rogan 1:15:47 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:15:48 ... uh, [laughs] you know, and feeding hummingbirds. That, and, and taking my kids to school. That was my dream life, and they burned it down, and now they have their worst nightmare coming to just undo the whole thing.

Joe Rogan 1:16:00 Former Los Angeles deputy, deputy mayor of public safety agrees to plead guilty to threatening to bomb LA City Hall last year. Now, what was the reason? Brian K. Williams, 61, of Pasadena, is charged in a single count information with threats regarding fire and explosives.

Speaker 1:16:16 It doesn't have a reason, but it says what he did.

Joe Rogan 1:16:19 Hmm.

Spencer Pratt 1:16:20 You know, I don't think there's ever a good reason. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:16:22 Well-

Speaker 1:16:23 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:16:23 ... I mean, I would like to hear his reason.

Speaker 1:16:26 It's the-

Joe Rogan 1:16:26 Uh, bomb threat. "I received a call on my city cell phone at 10:48 this morning. The male caller stated that he was tired of the city's support of Israel, and he's decided to place a bomb in City Hall." So that's it. Uh, it might be in the rotunda. I immediately contacted the... So it was about Israel. Wow.

Speaker 1:16:46 I think, excuse me, he made it up. Up here it says that he used his Google Voice application on his personal cell phone-

Joe Rogan 1:16:51 [gasps]

Speaker 1:16:51 ... to place a call to his city-issued cell phone.

Joe Rogan 1:16:53 Wow.

Speaker 1:16:54 He then left the meeting and called the chief of staff up. Doesn't say why.

Joe Rogan 1:16:58 What a fucking idiot.

Spencer Pratt 1:17:00 I will say Mayor Bass-

Joe Rogan 1:17:00 Is that guy still employed?

Speaker 1:17:03 Uh...

Joe Rogan 1:17:03 Find out if that guy's still employed.

Spencer Pratt 1:17:05 I, I would think not. I would imagine he's going to-

Joe Rogan 1:17:08 Oh, no.

Spencer Pratt 1:17:08 I mean, think he-

Speaker 1:17:09 He's facing 10 years

Spencer Pratt 1:17:10 ... I think he's going to federal prison. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:17:12 Oh, he's facing 10 years?

Speaker 1:17:13 Yeah, I think so.

Joe Rogan 1:17:14 But what, what if he has paid leave?

Speaker 1:17:16 Maximum, maximum sentence of 10 years in federal prison.

Spencer Pratt 1:17:19 Probably he's, I, uh-

Joe Rogan 1:17:19 Oh, God.

Spencer Pratt 1:17:19 But notice he at least w- uh, Mayor Bass, with her cell phone, the whole week of the Palisades fire, she deleted all her text messages where-

Joe Rogan 1:17:27 I wonder why

Spencer Pratt 1:17:28 ... oh, what, you know, this is, they're like a terrorist cell. All, uh, uh, breaking burner phones. How-

Joe Rogan 1:17:35 How the fuck do you, are you even allowed to do that? Former LA deputy mayor sentenced to probation and $5,000 fine. That's it. Just probation.

Spencer Pratt 1:17:45 Well, in his defense, his mayor was spending, I think she went to Cuba 30 times to learn how to build bombs and bomb America when she was part of the Vanisa Roma- Vanisa Ru- Vanisa Ramos Brigade. So Karen Bass-

Joe Rogan 1:17:59 How old was she when this was happening?

Spencer Pratt 1:18:00 19, 20, and she never, ever said she had any problem with being, like, a Cuban, uh, communist terrorist until Biden was gonna pick her as VP, and then they made her say, "I denounce that I was trying to blow up the Capitol with my, with my terrorist cell when I was younger." But for all those years, she never said anything. Nev- when Fidel Castro died, she said something like, "Rest in peace, El Comandante." Like, what?

Joe Rogan 1:18:28 What?

Spencer Pratt 1:18:28 Yes. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:18:28 No way.

Spencer Pratt 1:18:29 Yes. You can find it.

Joe Rogan 1:18:30 For real?

Spencer Pratt 1:18:31 And then it gets even better. So-

Joe Rogan 1:18:32 Oh, but hey, guys-

Spencer Pratt 1:18:33 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:18:33 ... relax. Williams was just suffering from stress and anxiety when he called in the threat.

Spencer Pratt 1:18:38 Oh, oh. F- poor guy.

Joe Rogan 1:18:39 No big deal.

Spencer Pratt 1:18:40 Poor guy. Overworked.

Joe Rogan 1:18:42 Stress and anxiety, and somehow or another it was about Israel?

Spencer Pratt 1:18:45 Not to mention these people would just get away with all of this. They keep getting away with it.

Joe Rogan 1:18:51 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:18:51 That's the problem with the media, what I've learned from being part of the television world. You notice why do they let the mayor and the city councils get away with all of, you know, talking about this? At the end of the day, that's their talent.It's like a soap opera. They gotta keep filming with the mayor and the city council. If they just air 'em out, they're not picking up the call.

Joe Rogan 1:19:13 Exactly.

Spencer Pratt 1:19:13 It's like a production.

Joe Rogan 1:19:15 Exactly.

Spencer Pratt 1:19:15 So-

Joe Rogan 1:19:15 Then they don't have content anymore.

Spencer Pratt 1:19:17 Ex- exactly. So the local news needs to, like, keep it... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:19:21 Right. Right. They don't have access anymore.

Spencer Pratt 1:19:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:19:23 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:19:23 So that's why I'm like, why? 'Cause I talk to these people off camera-

Joe Rogan 1:19:26 Right

Spencer Pratt 1:19:26 ... and they're all like-

Joe Rogan 1:19:27 Like an organized crime organization.

Spencer Pratt 1:19:29 [laughs] They're like, "Please." You know, I'm like, "W- why aren't you-"

Joe Rogan 1:19:32 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:19:32 ... you know? But they-

Joe Rogan 1:19:33 It's organized crime.

Spencer Pratt 1:19:34 Yeah. It's-

Joe Rogan 1:19:35 I mean, it's like they pay people off. They've got little deals. You wash my back, I wash yours. Come on.

Spencer Pratt 1:19:43 Yeah. And so thankfully, 'cause people are like, "Aren't you scared of these people?" I'm like, "What, are they gonna burn my house down again? Are they gonna burn my mom's house down again?" So it gives you, like, a confident, what are they gonna do? I mean-

Joe Rogan 1:19:55 The, the crime in Los Angeles, when you talk to average people, like the people that I know that live there, they're fucking terrified. They say break-ins are just commonplace now, where they w- it used to be very rare. You get home invasions constantly. I mean, Ted Sarandos, his mother-in-law was killed in a home invasion, and they're, they're happening all the time. It's because there's no police response, and they know there's not gonna be a police response, so more people are hiring private security. Uh, it's very difficult to get a gun or at least a concealed carry permit. It's very difficult.

Spencer Pratt 1:20:26 In defense of LA County Sheriff and LAPD, they have gotten better-

Joe Rogan 1:20:32 Yes

Spencer Pratt 1:20:32 ... at CCWs now because of the s- the laws-

Joe Rogan 1:20:34 But because of the crime

Spencer Pratt 1:20:36 ... 'cause of the law.

Joe Rogan 1:20:36 I mean, but the, it's not the sheriff's fault. The sheriff wants it.

Spencer Pratt 1:20:39 Yeah, and they don't have the staff even to-

Joe Rogan 1:20:40 Exactly

Spencer Pratt 1:20:41 ... process it, so it just takes up to a year. But I know they all... That's the thing. I talk to so many sheriffs, so many LAPD, so many firefighters. Everybody is just broken. Their spirits are broken. Why are we doing this? Why don't we just go to Newport Beach-

Joe Rogan 1:20:58 Right

Spencer Pratt 1:20:58 ... or Huntington Beach?

Joe Rogan 1:20:59 Right.

Spencer Pratt 1:20:59 There's-

Joe Rogan 1:20:59 Or Florida.

Spencer Pratt 1:20:59 Or any... You can just-

Joe Rogan 1:21:00 Yeah. Just leave the state.

Spencer Pratt 1:21:01 What am I doing? They k- they keep saying, and-

Joe Rogan 1:21:03 Well, this is the thing that Newsom always chimes in about how much money b- uh, California brings in, how much, many venture capitalists are in California, how much money in tech is in California. Right. But it has nothing to do with your government. It has in spite of your government they're doing that.

Spencer Pratt 1:21:22 And they're leaving.

Joe Rogan 1:21:22 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:21:22 Hollywood was the greatest thing. The amount of money Hollywood made for Los Angeles, from the grips, to the camera operators, to the glam people-

Joe Rogan 1:21:32 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:21:32 ... to the costume-

Joe Rogan 1:21:33 Sure.

Spencer Pratt 1:21:33 People don't understand, like, you know, people hate, like, oh, like, Hollywood, you know, stupid movie stars are so rich. They forget about the ecosystem that connects to that-

Joe Rogan 1:21:44 Yes

Spencer Pratt 1:21:44 ... say, Tom Cruise that makes some-

Joe Rogan 1:21:46 Yes.

Spencer Pratt 1:21:46 The amount of money is gone. And for instance, just last week, they finally got Baywatch to come back to LA. Baywatch starts shooting for, like, two days, and then they kick 'em off the beach. There's all these permit problems. So I write a Substack calling this out, calling out the mayor. Next thing you know, they come back, and the mayor makes a deal. What's the funniest thing right now is whatever I post and do, the mayor is now do- Like I said the other day, I'm getting rid of the whole fire commission. This fire commission has been there for, like, 10 years, I think. After I do this post or whatever, boom, four out of five of the fire commission resign. So they're trying to just st- get ahead of-

Joe Rogan 1:22:23 Of course

Spencer Pratt 1:22:23 ... all the things of what I'm saying, which is fun, 'cause it's already, I'm like the mayor.

Joe Rogan 1:22:27 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:22:27 So [laughs] I'm like, this is great.

Joe Rogan 1:22:29 Well, it's also they can't possibly do enough without completely undermining their entire organization. They're always gonna have so much fraud and waste that your s- your case will always be solid. There's no way. There's no... They would have to literally, like, tank everything they're doing that got them into position.

Spencer Pratt 1:22:46 And if they talk about how much of a failure, then they're definitely not keeping their job.

Joe Rogan 1:22:51 Right.

Spencer Pratt 1:22:52 Which is-

Joe Rogan 1:22:52 Right

Spencer Pratt 1:22:52 ... that's the problem with all of... They're all in a... Ready for this? The lady, Janice Quinones, that was in charge of the LADWP that drained... So in the Pacific Palisades, there was the Santa Ynez Reservoir. It had 117 million gallons of water. When it was created, the engineer, he's on the cover of LA Times back in the day, and he's talking about he built this for wildfire protection. Now, in their defense, the city and LADWP says, "That was drinking water." No one was, no one was drinking this water, I promise you. So there was a tear on this drinking water that allegedly, the firefighting water. S- so they drain the entire reservoir because of a little tear that would've cost $120,000 to repair for over a year. This woman was making $750,000 a year as the head of LADWP, twice her predecessor that Mayor Bass brought in. S- keep in mind, if you make that much money, do you know what the people below her are making? 500, 400, six. These people get so much money, and they spend over a year to fix a tear? And it's back to the mafia thing. Oh, I'm sure it's like, oh, we gotta use this contractor 'cause we don't have a open bid. Oh, that's too cheap. Well, you know, who knows the conspiracy to why they didn't tear it? So while that's drained, next door to my house that I watched weekly, the, the local LAFD would do training. They'd hook up to it. I had a five-million gallon reservoir for firefighting. So while they're doing that one, they're like, "Oh, we should fix this one too." They drain that one, and they're like, "Oh, we drained it. When we refill it, i- i- there's some issues. We can't refill it." They leave two reservoirs empty. Back, rewind what I told you. In a season that's the driest ever, that they've actually had a fire, I think in 2019, where-There wasn't water in the reservoir, and they, thankfully there was no wind, and they had to drive ten- water tenders up onto the hillside for the helicopters to dip, because that's the key. What people don't understand is like, oh, this, nothing could have stopped this fire. You know, the people that defend these people. If the reservoir had the water in it, the helicopters, these $17 million helicopters that Newsom loves to do the photo shoots in front of, how fast they are, would've had to fly less than 30 seconds from the origin of the fire, again, when the winds were fine for six hours in the initial thing. But instead, those helicopters had to fly all the way to Malibu, to Pepperdine College, and all the way to Encino to get the water for the helicopters to fly all the way back to where the fire was next door to where the empty reservoir is.

Joe Rogan 1:25:32 Good Lord.

Spencer Pratt 1:25:33 So they spent 66% of their time not fighting the fire, going to get the water. So it's back to like why I say it's Chinatown.

Joe Rogan 1:25:42 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:25:42 Like what Jack Nicholson... We have this LADWP that these people get all this money. They increase everyone's rates. This year, everyone's rates went up 17- or 11%. They're gonna go up 7% annually for no reason. You're not getting alkaline water out of it. I'm convinced, we used to joke like, oh, there's fluoride in the water. How much fentanyl is in our damn water right now? [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:26:03 Right.

Spencer Pratt 1:26:03 I mean, we're not getting better water for that 7% increase. They're doubling everyone's trash, even though the entire city has more trash. I talked to this guy, Juan, from Clean LA. He goes around, he's from Ecuador. He, he does these mingas where he moved here from Ecuador, and he said it's the dirtiest thing he's ever seen his whole life. So he just started cleaning up trash and posting it, and now people give him GoFundMe money, and he cleans more of the city than the city.

Joe Rogan 1:26:29 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:26:30 And I had him on my podcast. I said, "What's the problem here, Juan?" And he said, "People don't care, Spencer." And I said, "So if I'm mayor, I hire you, uh, we're gonna get this city clean." He's like, "Spencer, they want a billion dollars next year to, for the trash." He's like, "I can do this for easy $500 million." I said, "Okay, you're hired, Juan." I said, "What are we gonna do with everything?" He's like, "We gotta fire all these people, Spencer. They don't care." He said it's dirtier than any third world country he's ever been. So they're doubling our trash rates. They're doubling our sewage. So more money, more money. It's back to taxes. Oh, the, the rich need to give more? If the quality of life just keeps getting worse and worse, why would anybody with money stay in California or Los Angeles-

Joe Rogan 1:27:15 Exactly

Spencer Pratt 1:27:15 ... when they know the fraud, the waste, the corruption? People that are rich, billionaires, whoever they are, if the city lights all work... Right now, this, the two mayors I'm running for let, do you know about the copper theft?

Joe Rogan 1:27:29 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:27:29 There's no working lights in the city of LA 'cause they let, they got rid of the copper task force-

Joe Rogan 1:27:33 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:27:33 ... 'cause they obviously have, can't fund the LAPD. So they let everyone steal all the copper so there's, everything's dark in the whole city.

Joe Rogan 1:27:39 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:27:39 So Mayor Bass goes last week and makes a press conference. "I solved it. I'm gonna spend $200 million, and we're gonna do solar power lights." You think these thieves aren't gonna then pivot to stealing solar batteries and slanging those? No, we gotta stop the criminals. The best video right now, I think, there's a couple of good ones. This Nithya Raman, the Democratic socialist who's running for mayor, she is asked about all the Cadillac converters that are being stolen. She said, "Well, Toyota is making these too easy to steal. It's like leaving your, your MacBook on the front seat." This is real talk. I'm not kidding. It's Toyota's fault that people-

Joe Rogan 1:28:16 Toyota's fault that people are stealing catalytic converters?

Spencer Pratt 1:28:19 Yeah. Yes. Here's, it gets even-

Joe Rogan 1:28:21 That's hilarious. Every fucking car has a catalytic converter. It just sits underneath. You can just saw off the exhaust and take it out. If you know anything about cars, it's not fucking Toyota. It's every car.

Spencer Pratt 1:28:31 Oh, here's another great one of her lines. Um, she's at our city council meeting. She's the city council member. All these moms and parents are saying, "We don't want these encampments where there's two known gangs selling fentanyl through holes in the, in the tents. The zombies are everywhere." These parents are saying, "We don't want these encampments," which are illegal. They're asking them, the city council member, to enforce the law, and she argues with the parents and says there's no difference if the encampment's one foot or 500 feet from the school. All the parents boo her, and she goes, "Whatever," and rolls her eyes. These are the people that are gonna show up and vote for me.

Joe Rogan 1:29:09 Right.

Spencer Pratt 1:29:09 These moms-

Joe Rogan 1:29:10 For sure

Spencer Pratt 1:29:10 ... and these dads that are done.

Joe Rogan 1:29:10 Well, there's, there's a giant amount of people-

Spencer Pratt 1:29:13 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:29:13 ... in California that have been red pilled, that just, just realize, like, whatever you thought your government was, when you thought you were voting for a progressive, kind, compassionate government, that is a sheep outfit over a wolf. It's not what you have. It's not what you're getting. What you're getting is organized crime. What you're getting is organized crime that is using this filter of compassionate, caring, inclusive government, and it's not real. It's not real. What you're getting is more homeless, more crime, more murder, more chaos, more... Maybe not more murder.

Spencer Pratt 1:29:50 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:29:50 Maybe it's more shootings.

Spencer Pratt 1:29:50 Almost murder. Almost murder.

Joe Rogan 1:29:52 Yeah, maybe al- more shootings and stabbings, but w- better medical care is keeping them alive. But the idea that crime is down, it's like the, anecdotally, you ask anybody in LA, they would not agree to that. Most people think crime is up. Home invasions are fucking ubiquitous. It's everywhere.

Spencer Pratt 1:30:08 So I spoke with these SWAT guys the other day, and I said, "You know, are you guys having a lot of, you know, gang standouts?" He said, "Actually, no. The gangs, it's business as usual. They know when we show up, they, you know, the hands up, they're gonna get out in a week. They're professional. They're just for the money." He says, "Our biggest call-outs now are mental health, you know, episodes that the person doesn't know where they are or whatever." And I said, "But what about all these, like, home invasion crews and, that are coming in robbing everyone's houses?" He goes, "There's nothing we can do." He says, "These people all know they're getting out in two weeks." I said, "What do you mean? Isn't that a felony? They're coming in with guns." He said, "Nope. You can go break into a house with a gun while people are there, families, rob them, tie them up, and get out with imp-"

Joe Rogan 1:30:55 Not only that, if you shoot those people while they're in your house, you'll be prosecuted.

Spencer Pratt 1:30:59 Yeah, you gotta prove you were fearing for your life.

Joe Rogan 1:31:02 You're supposed to leave your house rather than defend your house against people with weapons that enter your house

Spencer Pratt 1:31:09 I personally would advise to, to lock yourself in, in a closet and have your firearm and have a strong point.

Joe Rogan 1:31:18 Yeah, but even that, like what, you're gonna just let someone break into your house and steal your childhood's... You know, what-whatever. Whatever they're stealing. Whatever. Steal your fucking jewelry and-

Spencer Pratt 1:31:29 You have to

Joe Rogan 1:31:29 ... heirlooms and what-whatever you've worked your whole life to earn.

Spencer Pratt 1:31:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:31:34 That's fucking insane. That's insane, and the fact that you have this no cash bail situation and you're just letting these people out on the street that are violent criminals, repeat offenders. It's like if you wanted to destroy LA, that's how you would do it.

Spencer Pratt 1:31:48 They're doing it, and that's why I get so... My hardest thing every day now is just staying not too pumped up because now that I'm in this fight and I have all the messages all day long, everywhere I go on the street, people, old ladies hugging me, crying like, "Please, I'm sca-" The f- the pressure I feel to get in here and just undo this, unplug this. And I met with a lot of business owners and they said the mayor, the city council, they all know what needs to be done, but they don't wanna push the buttons. Somebody needs to just come in and push the... If there's one thing I know, I will push these buttons, and we're gonna get the city under control because it just starts with enforcing the law. So I have a deputy mayor that I can't say who he is because of fear of retaliation at this point because of issues with the city right now who's in power. But this deputy mayor who will help me enforce the law made it very clear, once you start enforcing the law, criminals leave. They know, oh, this, the gig's up. They will go somewhere else. You- once you start making arrests, people will leave. This idea, oh, there's no room in the jails. Where are you gonna put all these people? Once you start enforcing the law, they will leave, and it's as simple as that. He was suggesting for two weeks you go around the city, you put up signs. No more fentanyl at the park. No more open drug use. No more encampments. You have two-week countdown. You tell every, you give them a warning, so if you wanna leave in advance, you know. Most of these people, which is what I hear the most from law enforcement, are not from Los Angeles. They have been flown in, bused in, back to the business. There's a body business where they bring homeless people to the city to make the money off them. They're from all over the country. They're brought here because this is the epicenter where they're making all the money. So you don't think these NGOs, when they hear Spencer Pratt's the new mayor, he's got the IRS criminal investigation team, they're gonna take this scam, I'm sorry to other states and cities, on the... The show's gonna go on the road, and they're gonna open up shop where there's a mayor that lets this go down, and it will stop in LA. And this trickle-down effect when restaurants don't have zombies in front of them, you can go back to having outdoor seating because it doesn't smell like human poo. The whole town smells like, the whole city smells like human poop and pee. It's, it's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:34:05 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:34:05 So when you get rid of that, not to mention, you remember my best plan?

Joe Rogan 1:34:09 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:34:10 I'm bringing in the CDC. Los Angeles love the white suits and during COVID. They love, they love CDC. I'm bringing in the CDC because do you know how much typhoid and medieval diseases are in these encampments that nobody's swabbing? Mayor Pratt is bringing the CDC in. We're gonna swab all of them, and once we get those test results back, I promise you, the federal government will be shutting down streets with white tents and s- hosing things down with chlorine, God knows what, because people are living in the sewers. I don't know if you saw last week, that lady pops out of the sewer, that Juan from Clean LA did a video. It went viral. She was living, uh, in, like, in the sewer.

Joe Rogan 1:34:51 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:34:51 A whole full thing. What is... What's... With poop and pee, you know what type of diseases are going on in there? CDC will clean these streets. Again, people are like, "Oh, Spencer's not gonna have the resources." With the Olympics coming, we have Homeland Security. We got DEA. Y- Another thing, we're just letting... I talked to the dog rescue people. They say you stand on Skid Row or any street in LA, you can watch the drug dealers just pulling up in Escalades, Teslas, all the nicest cars, just slanging, no problem. Mayor Pratt, DEA's coming in, ATF. We have so much funding when you bring the feds in to enforce the law to get the streets ready for the Olympics. The current administration, they wanna play pretend, get that money to launder. Oh, we need that billion dollars. We'll, we'll clean the streets. No, no, no. You come do it. Help me out. So it's not like I won't be able to do this, and people, when they hear me say that, they're like, "That's our guy."

Joe Rogan 1:35:47 So let's, let's-

Spencer Pratt 1:35:50 We haven't even talked jujitsu too.

Joe Rogan 1:35:51 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:35:51 Are we gonna put on gis or what?

Joe Rogan 1:35:54 Let's talk about day one. So day one, realistically, what can you do, and how do you implement all these ideas that you have?

Spencer Pratt 1:36:04 So right now what I've learned is all the smartest, brightest people would never wanna come work in LA 'cause they know any of their ideas are not gonna be used. The system is in play. The amount of private industry... I, like for instance, a CEO's house burned down who sold his company to Warren Buffett. We're talking big, legit CEO. He said, "I'll come in. I'll work for a dollar a year." You know, there's people like this that wanna get LA back-

Joe Rogan 1:36:33 Right

Spencer Pratt 1:36:33 ... that I'm gonna surround myself. People like Rick Caruso. He wants to get building. You lean on these people that they talk about it. They just don't wanna go into this toxic environment that you can't... It's a cartel. They know there's only so much they can do unless there's a mayor like me that's gonna let them do it. I've al- I just got off the phone with Steve Mosko. He was the president of multiple studios, Sony. I'm gonna bring him in within a, like an Avengers team for Hollywood, how we clean up all these permit issues and get Hollywood back and make the incentives, make it... My idea is literally not charge. You wanna shoot in LA, there's no p- we needWe're gonna charge you? No-

Joe Rogan 1:37:10 We need work

Spencer Pratt 1:37:11 ... we need work.

Joe Rogan 1:37:12 Right.

Spencer Pratt 1:37:12 And then we can, in six years, we can come back and worry about that, but bring the business back. So meeting with the Ted Sarandos, putting these actual commissions. Not to mention, I already met with the, there's the community budget advocates. They're like LA budget experts. They presented seven budget initiatives to Mayor Bass. She didn't do one. I'm gonna do all seven. These type of budget things where you don't just increase all these payments to city unions or whatever with- if the budget doesn't have the money. There's gonna be a commission that looks everything publicly for 30 days. Right now it's just her CAO. It's like having your accountant and, and check your taxes, like, from the IRS.

Joe Rogan 1:37:51 Right.

Spencer Pratt 1:37:51 It's all... We need to have outside, independent people ch- checking all this stuff. So it's more of, again, I'm talking with Chief Garcia, who's retiring, who's the GOAT firefighter, to be one of my deputy, to be one of my deputy mayors of fire and public safety, not a deputy mayor that calls bomb threats into the city.

Joe Rogan 1:38:10 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:38:10 So just using experienced people that wanna get LA and surrounding myself. One thing I know I have is common sense. Now all the things that I need, the professionals, you bring them in, and they'll wanna work with me because they know, they hear my message, "Oh, he's gonna undo all this." You're telling me for $750,000 I couldn't find a better LADWP CEO to make sure there's waters in the reservoir, figure out how to get rates down? We have plenty of money. We're paying these jobs. We're clearly not getting the proper talent, obviously. Look at the city. So it's-

Joe Rogan 1:38:45 You're getting talent that's ideologically aligned.

Spencer Pratt 1:38:49 That's... Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 1:38:49 And it's a part of this whole cartel.

Spencer Pratt 1:38:51 Exactly. So-

Joe Rogan 1:38:52 Yeah, and they know what they're doing. They know the game. They play the game. They listen to whatever the top dogs say, and they follow business as usual, and the money keeps getting moved around.

Spencer Pratt 1:39:02 To the point where I could poach talent from other major cities that are successful at these jobs. I can pay them more, clearly, than other... But it'd be like, "Wow, you did this here? Come out to LA. Don't worry, the zombies will be gone by the time you get here." But there are these people, there's tons of cities around America that don't look like LA. This is not some rocket science I have to figure out.

Joe Rogan 1:39:26 You're in one of them right now.

Spencer Pratt 1:39:29 There we go.

Joe Rogan 1:39:29 Yeah, drive around Austin. There's a homeless problem, but it's minor. It's very small in comparison to Los Angeles.

Spencer Pratt 1:39:36 Again, there will be homeless problems always.

Joe Rogan 1:39:39 Everywhere.

Spencer Pratt 1:39:40 Everywhere.

Joe Rogan 1:39:40 Always.

Spencer Pratt 1:39:41 But the drug addiction crime where they run the streets, that's a problem that can be fixed.

Joe Rogan 1:39:46 And encampments can be fixed.

Spencer Pratt 1:39:48 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:39:49 Yeah. Look at what they did in San Francisco when Xi Jinping was visiting San Francisco, and Gavin Newsom literally said, "When someone comes to your house to visit, you clean up your house." How about just keep your fucking house clean? Like, what are you saying? If you have the resources to clean it up when a foreign dignitary comes into town, why don't you just keep your town clean?

Spencer Pratt 1:40:10 And we're the ones that own the house, the taxpayers.

Joe Rogan 1:40:13 Yeah. Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:40:13 We already pay to keep the house clean.

Joe Rogan 1:40:15 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:40:15 Now, back to Newsom and fires. My... One of the thing we need to touch upon, back to climate change and him going to Munich, and he talks about the fires. It's 365 days a year. It's climate. That's interesting for somebody whose fire service, the Cal Fire, he only pays them seasonal. When the Palisades fire hit, all, most of Cal Fire was down for the season. If it's a 360 force, and that's why the only reason Brentwood exists and didn't burn all the way, just like the Palisades, is that Chief Garcia, he was ready with the U.S. Forest Service 'cause he fought the feds to make sure he has a real fire service that's 365 'cause he understands y- it could pop off whenever. So he had all his tankers and helicopters. They came to Palisades and saved the day. So this idea, they just talk, talk, "Oh, I spend all this money on all these things," but then you don't. And then he cut their salaries. I mean, we don't have... We could do a whole episode on Newsom. I gotta stay focused.

Joe Rogan 1:41:14 Please.

Spencer Pratt 1:41:14 And it's back to-

Joe Rogan 1:41:15 It's amazing that that guy thinks he could be president.

Spencer Pratt 1:41:18 Not when I'm mayor of LA, 'cause I'm gonna cook him.

Joe Rogan 1:41:20 I just don't understand how anybody could think that he was, he would do a good job. He ruined San Francisco, then he ruined California, and now he wants to ruin the country? Like, what, w- how the fuck do they think because he talks well? And he doesn't even talk well. He just talks well for people that are in that position. Y- y- there's just a lot of people that talk way better than him that aren't interested in the job.

Spencer Pratt 1:41:44 Well, that's what we need to get past, and the audience, the taxpayers, audience, whatever you wanna call them, we need to stop falling for performative politics.

Joe Rogan 1:41:52 Yes.

Spencer Pratt 1:41:52 The mayor of LA, she's so good at it, that's... She gets everyone riled up like she's Che Guevara fighting for freedom, just... When she can do nothing. The, uh, she literally as mayor cannot stop anything with the federal government. It's all just a act, and same with Newsom. They're s- they're like inf- like social media influencers.

Joe Rogan 1:42:10 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:42:10 Do your job. We're paying our tax money for you to make sure our houses don't burn down, zombies aren't attacking our families on the way to school. Everything that's the basic quality of life, you're failing at, but what you're good at is just yelling on social media. And that was back to why I ran, 'cause I didn't wanna be one of these just y- they're just yappers. They just yap. You don't do anything.

Joe Rogan 1:42:32 Yeah. Well, it's, uh, it's refreshing. It's refreshing seeing something... And I, but I think this is how it has to be done. I think it has to be someone from the outside, that y- y- all these people that have a career in politics, they know what feathers they can't ruffle. They know that if you wanna make it, you have to be aligned with whatever the party's doing, and if you go against them, you get in trouble. And the, everyone knows this, so they all just sort of stay the course and hope that their time comes, hope that they'll look the right way and say the right things, and somehow or another it'll allow them to elevate their career and become a mayor somewhere or become a governor somewhere.

Spencer Pratt 1:43:12 Well, if you look, smart people will come up to me and they'll be like, "You're doing what the founders of America wanted, real people, part of the communities, getting into politics, not this job where I'm gonna do this for thir..." It was supposed to beYour neighbor, your-

Joe Rogan 1:43:28 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:43:29 ... somebody who understood what everyone was going through.

Joe Rogan 1:43:31 Exactly.

Spencer Pratt 1:43:32 And, and, and I feel that. And again, I'm going in there to stop these people, not ch- not... I don't have a new utopia of what LA should be. I want LA back. I want the LA I grew up in.

Joe Rogan 1:43:43 Right.

Spencer Pratt 1:43:43 I want my two sons to be able to, once we win all our lawsuits against Gavin Newsom and his state park, to rebuild in the Palisades and grow up in the city of LA that I grew up in, that y- it was... You could dream.

Joe Rogan 1:43:57 Have you thought about a timeline of how all these ideas that you have, like, how long it'll take to actually implement them?

Spencer Pratt 1:44:05 F- Once you start enforcing the law, things are gonna move quick. It, it's, it's as simple as, okay, I'm mayor of LA. I got my new, my new deputy mayors. We have my new police commissions. We're going around and we're just arresting people, and the people that aren't getting arrested, we're getting to mandatory medical treatment, and we're just gonna start clearing the streets, clearing the encampments. And then from that, it just, everything's gonna come to... First off, imagine the communities, like, the, how pumped people are gonna be in these neighborhoods when I come in and I'm like, "This is done." People are-

Joe Rogan 1:44:40 What is this other person, this Democratic socialist lady, what, what is her solution to all these problems? Crime, homelessness, all these things. What is she saying? She, is she admitting that there are issues, and does she have a solution that she's proposing?

Spencer Pratt 1:44:56 [laughs] She just posted it yesterday. I didn't read it. Somebody just tagged it. It was so funny. One of the quotes was, "We're gonna have a street medical team." A street medical team? We already have that. It's called the LAFD, and they're spending 80% of their calls responding to these overdoses, and we're also paying for that. And are gonna... No. They, they, 'cause they're so deep in it, they can't say mandatory treatment.

Joe Rogan 1:45:19 Mm.

Spencer Pratt 1:45:19 Because these people have rights to die on the sidewalk. They have rights to attack. So we need more housing. This is a... These beds aren't working. We need to get more beds. So yes, she needs more affordable beds, more... It's not working as she's running it.

Joe Rogan 1:45:35 As she's running it.

Spencer Pratt 1:45:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:45:36 So she just wants to keep business as usual, just with more funds.

Spencer Pratt 1:45:39 No. She wasn't even running until three hours before the last, where you have to fill it out. But when everyone saw I was gonna win and be the mayor, they... So the real conspiracy is, it's my conspiracy, I don't know if it's real, that Karen Bass and Nithya are working together just to block me to make sure, because it's a jungle runoff. So June 2nd, the top two numbers go to November. I was one billion percent going to November, until one hour before, she just pops up, after she'd already endorsed Mayor Bass. They were doing photo ops together a week before. They're close. Mayor Bass endorsed this Nithya lady. They're like a team. So two hours before the last minute where you have to sign to, where they announce the final candidates, she's had a year to run for mayor, or plus, you could've announced. It's just to block me from going to November. But what they don't understand is, people that will vote for me would never vote for her or Karen Bass. They're actually picking off their own stats. If anything, what they're doing is making me the mayor on June 2nd, because if you have 51% of the vote, I just become the mayor on June 2nd, and I think they're in for a big surprise, and they're underestimating how angry everybody is in the city of LA, and I think I become mayor June 2nd, and it won't even go to November.

Joe Rogan 1:46:59 I think they really are underestimating how angry everybody is, because, uh, there's people that I talk to that used to be just hardcore Democrats, hardcore leftist progressives that are really saying, like, in hush tones, "We really need a Republican. We really need, like, some no-nonsense Rudy Giuliani person. I hate to say that. I hate to say it, but that's what we need. We need someone who's gonna be really tough on crime and clean everything up and stop all these people from having tents on the street." There's so many people like that, that are just quiet about it. They don't wanna talk about it openly and publicly because they're afraid of being shamed.

Spencer Pratt 1:47:36 I grew up in Palisades. I went to Crossroads High School. I don't think I've ever met a, a Republican.

Joe Rogan 1:47:42 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:47:42 No, I mean, for real. Like-

Joe Rogan 1:47:44 Right

Spencer Pratt 1:47:44 ... all the people I know, all my family and friend, everybody I know is a Democrat.

Joe Rogan 1:47:49 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:47:49 And all the people that are supporting me, all the people I talk to, they're Democrats. We're... This is not the Democrat Party that's running LA. The other day, I posted the, like, the, the commandment list of, I think it was 1996, Bill Clinton's Democratic Party. It looks like what I would say right now.

Joe Rogan 1:48:07 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:48:07 That's the Demo- No, this is socialism. This is communist. This is cartel. This is mafia.

Joe Rogan 1:48:13 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:48:13 This is not... Democrats love me. They w- they want all the same things. They wanna feel safe. They-

Joe Rogan 1:48:18 It's really amazing how they can hide it by just pretending to be compassionate.

Spencer Pratt 1:48:23 And, and-

Joe Rogan 1:48:23 They, they can hide all this money that they're just siphoning off, 'cause it really is just organized crime.

Spencer Pratt 1:48:29 Well, they say to people, "There's nothing we can do."

Joe Rogan 1:48:31 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:48:32 That's, that's, that's... People will be in my comments section being like, "There's nothing you can do." It's like, they are so good at just keeping this, "These people have rights." First off, it is illegal, just, this will blow people's mind, it's illegal to live on the sidewalk.

Joe Rogan 1:48:48 Right.

Spencer Pratt 1:48:49 It's, it's a, that's a Democrat law. All the laws I wanna enforce are Democrat laws. I am the Democrat law enforcer mayor. [laughs] I should be every... [laughs] It's, I'm actually excited, 'cause I, I finally feel like there's, like, hope, 'cause when your house burns down and your mom's crying 'cause her house burnt down, every single day, everyone you know's house burnt down, you go through a dark, just, all my tax money. Like, I should be a millionaire. The am- you know, 'cause I got some big checks. People always say, "Oh, he burned all of his money." They don't understand. Living in LA in the entertainment business with a manager, an agent, a business manager, your taxes in LAYour state taxes, it's very hard to keep all that money. So they're like, "Oh, he burned the..." No, I, regardless, the amount of money I put in to the city of LA and the state, my house should still be here. So it's very sad moment, and then it, then you start uncovering, oh, no, this is almost strategic. This is, this... You know, a lot of people reached out after with the Lahaina, and they're like, "Oh, they Lahaina'd you. This is a land grab." And I was like, "No, no." And then you start going down, you're like, I'm not even argue with these people anymore because of how the writing was so on the wall. It's so on the wall, the entire insurance industry dropped everyone in the Palisades leading up to the fire. It was that flagrant. There was 70-year-old people, 70-year-old plus, I talked to 80-year-olds that got dropped by their insurance January 1st, been paying 40-plus years, didn't even get to re-up, lost everything, no insurance. If all the insurance companies are dropping an area, it's very clear that they know what's about to happen. So your city leaders, your mayor, everybody, your state, they should be getting ready or saying, "Oh, wow, everyone's dropping this?"

Joe Rogan 1:50:38 Right.

Spencer Pratt 1:50:38 "What can we do? Oh, we need to clear the dead brush. We need to make the water in the reservoirs there." Just obvious things, so I don't even argue with the land grab things because here's a crazy thing that I never did the math for. This, this hurts. So your house burns down. You lost everything. Now you gotta buy stuff over again. Now you're paying the city sales tax. So the people who just let your house burn down, now you're giving them s- tax to rebuy underwear, rebuy shoes, rebuy. So they're making money now off of your house burning down, not to mention you gotta start buying things to actually, maybe if you're lucky, not only 14 people in 15 months have built a house, so-

Joe Rogan 1:51:19 It's only 14 people have built a new house?

Spencer Pratt 1:51:20 Let's, let's max out at 16 just to be like, oh, no, it's 16.

Joe Rogan 1:51:24 To be charitable.

Spencer Pratt 1:51:24 He's, he's, misinformation.

Joe Rogan 1:51:26 Yeah. [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:51:26 Yeah, like it's-

Joe Rogan 1:51:27 Less than 20.

Spencer Pratt 1:51:28 Yeah, less than 20 in 15 plus.

Joe Rogan 1:51:29 Which is crazy.

Spencer Pratt 1:51:30 And this-

Joe Rogan 1:51:30 And how many houses burnt down?

Spencer Pratt 1:51:32 7,000.

Joe Rogan 1:51:33 Wow.

Spencer Pratt 1:51:34 So now you got the sales tax.

Joe Rogan 1:51:36 God, that's so crazy. That's such a crazy number. 7,000 houses is so crazy.

Spencer Pratt 1:51:41 What's even crazier is most of these houses burned down on January 8th, when now there's no wind, and they just didn't figure out, let's drive water in from all... Again, when you're on Lahaina, you're on an island. I'll start arguing, oh, it's hard to get resources. When everything's burning down on January 7th, and you already realize you F'd up, and now you're hearing the fire department saying, "All the fire hydrants are empty. There's no water." It's red alert. Get enough water tankers from the whole state, every city, drive in water. I have videos from January 8th of moms walking in front of my son's elementary school. It's totally there. My son's preschool, 12 o'clock, totally there. By the afternoon, all this is gone because there was no, they didn't bring water in.

Joe Rogan 1:52:26 It's crazy.

Spencer Pratt 1:52:27 So back to the, the land grab thing. So for instance, all these properties that burned down, like I said, it's years of passed down family property, so when you pass that, you pay that old tax rate. Now these 7,000 dirt lots in the next couple years, guess what the new tax rate is? They're gonna have a, when somebody buys that, and they're now paying 2027, 2028 Pacific Palisades tax rates, not 1970, you know, your grandfather's tax rate because, you know, you've still lived in the house. So there's like 100-plus billion they're gonna make just in taxes. So the idea that, oh, why would they ever let that happen? You start thinking, oh, well, they don't care because not only do they make a lot of money, they can rebuild it, they can try to put, you know, affordable housing and do this, these complex... It just gets, it gets fishy, you know.

Joe Rogan 1:53:21 It does get weird.

Spencer Pratt 1:53:22 It gets, it gets-

Joe Rogan 1:53:22 Like you don't want to accuse people of land grabs, but at the very least, they're capitalizing on a tragedy.

Spencer Pratt 1:53:29 Well, you know the number one buyer right now of Palisades dirt lots? China.

Joe Rogan 1:53:35 No way.

Spencer Pratt 1:53:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:53:36 Really?

Spencer Pratt 1:53:37 Yeah. Well, they do it through New Zealand or, it's a New Zealand business owned by the Chinese, so you know, it's, it's-

Joe Rogan 1:53:46 Oh, God

Spencer Pratt 1:53:46 ... it's all movie stuff. I keep saying to people, I actually-

Joe Rogan 1:53:49 Watch the movie Chinatown.

Spencer Pratt 1:53:50 I, I watch it once a week just to like-

Joe Rogan 1:53:52 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:53:52 ... stay locked in, you know. But it's, it's exciting-

Joe Rogan 1:53:57 Oh, no

Spencer Pratt 1:53:57 ... because I feel this window of change where the stars are aligning, where an outsider comes in and just blows up their whole spot. Not the way the deputy mayor calls in bomb threats, but-

Joe Rogan 1:54:07 Right. [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:54:08 ... ener- energetically, and so it, it gives me hope. And then again, if it goes, if it's not God's plan, my wife is very on the, you know, prayer warrior, Bible, Jesus, so you know, I check in with her. I'm like, "Oh, what's Jesus saying, honey?"

Joe Rogan 1:54:23 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:54:24 And, uh, you know, I talk, but I think she has a better path. And her thing is, if it's God's will, it's gonna go down. And if not, then I'll probably end up with some of my former Palisades that moved to Bentonville, Arkansas, and it is what it is. But I will-

Joe Rogan 1:54:40 Well, there could be no doubt that Los Angeles needs a radical shift. They need a radical change, and it sounds like that's exactly what you're proposing.

Spencer Pratt 1:54:50 Big time.

Joe Rogan 1:54:51 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:54:51 And it's exciting, you know, 'cause most people are scared. They have fear of the system. They have fear of being attacked. The, the ma- I get why a normal person that's just has a good heart, that's smart, doesn't wanna go into politics. They will, you'll have the LA Times writing hit pieces.

Joe Rogan 1:55:07 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:55:07 They got machines to keep the system. You got the comment sections. You got people making videos. They're trying to expose-

Joe Rogan 1:55:14 Bots

Spencer Pratt 1:55:14 ... bots, every- You feel that, but thankfully I have experience from being hated in, in television for many years that-

Joe Rogan 1:55:21 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:55:23 [laughs] You know, now the flip is I have so much love energy. I was able to maintain with negativity for so many years and just stay in the game 'cause it was business as usual, and I knew they wanted a villain on all these shows. I will, you know, shout out David Foster to put me on this path many years ago. He said, "You gotta be like Simon Cowell." And I leaned into that, and, and it worked for many years. But the point is-Being hated for so many years, now having so much love, obviously I'd much rather be loved. Let's be clear, anybody that wants to be loved is a lot more fun.

Joe Rogan 1:55:56 For sure. For sure. Listen, man, I'm voting for you. I can't vote for you, but I'm rooting for you. I mean, if I lived in Los Angeles, no question whatsoever I would vote for you. I think-

Spencer Pratt 1:56:06 If you have time to get one of these affordable beds, I can put you-

Joe Rogan 1:56:10 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 1:56:10 I could probably connect you with one of these beds. You know, you know.

Joe Rogan 1:56:13 I don't, I don't think that's legal.

Spencer Pratt 1:56:14 No, I mean-

Joe Rogan 1:56:14 I think I'm a Texas resident.

Spencer Pratt 1:56:17 Okay, no, I mean it's-

Joe Rogan 1:56:18 Yeah, I'm a Texas resident.

Spencer Pratt 1:56:19 Take that back.

Joe Rogan 1:56:19 I, I think I can only vote-

Spencer Pratt 1:56:21 Well, did you see what they're doing right now with the cigarettes and the ballots in LA?

Joe Rogan 1:56:25 What?

Spencer Pratt 1:56:25 Have you seen this?

Joe Rogan 1:56:25 What?

Spencer Pratt 1:56:26 They caught all these people signing ballots, trading the zombies for cigarettes.

Joe Rogan 1:56:30 Oh, I did see that. I did see that.

Spencer Pratt 1:56:31 So I need the DOJ-

Joe Rogan 1:56:33 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:56:33 ... if you're watching, the feds-

Joe Rogan 1:56:34 Investigate that

Spencer Pratt 1:56:34 ... we need, no, we need-

Joe Rogan 1:56:35 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:56:36 ... come to LA for my election. We need to make sure we get a real election. I can't even believe we didn't do an hour on jiu-jitsu, though.

Joe Rogan 1:56:41 Yeah, that is, that really is gross what they're doing with giving people cigarettes to sign up for things.

Spencer Pratt 1:56:47 Do you know how many people are, like, in the jiu-jitsu game, if you don't shout me out... Like, I need to just, like, end with, like, a list of people. [laughs] No, no, I'm just kidding. But guys-

Joe Rogan 1:56:55 Don't do it

Spencer Pratt 1:56:55 ... we didn't talk jiu-jitsu, so.

Joe Rogan 1:56:56 Yeah.

Spencer Pratt 1:56:57 But-

Joe Rogan 1:56:57 Well, I talk jiu-jitsu so much.

Spencer Pratt 1:56:58 I know, and I know, but I just have to-

Joe Rogan 1:57:00 Oh, here's another thing, like, flavored nicotine is illegal in Los Angeles. Just think about how many people are camped out on the streets, how many people are in tents, open fentanyl use. You can't buy flavored Zyns.

Spencer Pratt 1:57:14 Well, even the cleanest ones that, like-

Joe Rogan 1:57:16 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:57:16 ... my health-

Joe Rogan 1:57:17 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:57:17 ... biohacker friends allegedly may-

Joe Rogan 1:57:19 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:57:19 ... or may not access it, but-

Joe Rogan 1:57:20 You can't have those

Spencer Pratt 1:57:21 ... like, fitness people can't even-

Joe Rogan 1:57:23 Right, like athletic nicotine

Spencer Pratt 1:57:23 ... peptides are-

Joe Rogan 1:57:24 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:57:24 ... technically, you know.

Joe Rogan 1:57:26 Yeah. Well, they're working on that s- nation- nationwide, and hopefully that'll get passed soon. But there's so many regulations in California that make fucking no sense, like, no sense, particularly in Los Angeles. They make no sense, and it's just they just wanna keep you like a child, and they are the people that are supposed to be the overseers of everybody, and they're looking out for you, and it's gross. And they, it's just business as usual. They wanna keep moving in a direction of more regulation, more rules, less rights, more restrictions.

Spencer Pratt 1:57:59 One last thing, this speaking as, this is so crazy. Do you know right now in LA if you're just a mom-and-pop landlord, not, you know, not... They always like to say landlords are, like, Cruella de Vil level, like, you know, these bad-

Joe Rogan 1:58:11 Right, right, right.

Spencer Pratt 1:58:11 Just like a mom and pop, maybe you own one apartment building with units. If you have, like, a drug addict, crazy person living in there, most of them now also with their Section 8 scammer and Range Rovers, have two cars. If you wanna get them out, they can go a whole year with not paying these landlords, and then they have to pay 100 grand in legal fees to try to get them out. So then they settle with this criminal that's just abusing this loophole and this system. They'll give him 50, 40K to just leave. That person's not put on any list, and then they go do it to another apartment building. So a lot of these apartment buildings, they don't even wanna rent out to people 'cause they can't afford to then have one of these people. So again, with this housing, and then, ready for this, the city council, if it was not 170 million, it's 200 million, just gave 170 million to the lawyers that sue the tenants for these people. But there's no fund for the tenants to then defend themselves.

Joe Rogan 1:59:09 Jesus Christ.

Spencer Pratt 1:59:11 It's, it's so crazy. It, so again, it's about these people coming around me that kn- that are living this nightmare and being like, "How do I help you stop these things?" And putting these people that know the, the game, 'cause they're living it-

Joe Rogan 1:59:27 Yeah

Spencer Pratt 1:59:27 ... and undo it. We gotta stop this.

Joe Rogan 1:59:29 Well, I'm glad we could help you get your message out.

Spencer Pratt 1:59:33 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:59:33 And I really, really hope it helps, and I really, really hope you win. It'll be fun. It'll be fun to watch you shake it up. And boy, if you could really change Los Angeles and turn it around, I mean, I mean, that would be absolutely fantastic. It would be a great story. It would be really amazing. And it would give hope to a lot of other cities that are experiencing similar situations, where I think a lot of other people would follow your path.

Spencer Pratt 2:00:00 I'm, I'm, I'm doing it. That is a-

Joe Rogan 2:00:01 All right.

Spencer Pratt 2:00:02 Just get me in the game.

Joe Rogan 2:00:03 [laughs]

Spencer Pratt 2:00:03 Voteformayorpratt.com.

Joe Rogan 2:00:05 Voteformayorpratt.

Spencer Pratt 2:00:06 There it is.

Joe Rogan 2:00:07 Thank you. Thanks, brother.

Spencer Pratt 2:00:07 Thank you so much.

Joe Rogan 2:00:07 It was awesome.

Spencer Pratt 2:00:08 Appreciate it.

Joe Rogan 2:00:08 All right. Bye, buddy. [upbeat music]