Spencer Pratt on Joe Rogan: Why LA Fire Money Missed Victims

1. SPSpeaker0:02

   Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat rock music]

2. JRJoe Rogan0:12

   What's going on, Mr. Mayor? [laughs]

3. SPSpencer Pratt0:14

   [laughs] I'm so thankful to be here.

4. JRJoe Rogan0:17

   My pleasure. Um, so first of all, how did this idea even get into your head of running for mayor in LA?

5. SPSpencer Pratt0:26

   To be clear, I never wanted to run for any political office or have anything to do with politicians. What happened was, after spending a year uncovering how my house and my parents' house burned down, and my neighbors burned alive, and, and 7,000 houses burned, and then I realized there's a, a cover-up going on, all the negligence, and I keep posting about it, and I have all the facts, I have all the whistleblowers, I have all the evidence, and business as usual. And I see that nobody is stepping up to run against the mayor who's responsible for this disaster and so many other disasters. So it became to the point where I got so sick of just being a, as the younger people say in the comments section, a yapper. Like, I felt like I was just yapping. I'm like making these videos, I'm telling the, the truth, I'm do-

6. JRJoe Rogan1:16

   Right

7. SPSpencer Pratt1:17

   ... I got a congressional investigation. I went to Washington, I met with everyone possible that I could do as just a citizen, and I, I was like, "Okay, well, game on now. I'm gonna go into your, into your headquarters and just take your job, and then remove all these toxic entities that are destroying our way of life in Los Angeles."

8. JRJoe Rogan1:38

   So let's start from the fire. Um, so the narrative was, my God, there was a lot of terrible, stupid, fake narratives, and one of them was climate change. That was the craziest one, that climate change is causing the fire. Look, I lived in LA for 29, 30 years, whatever it was, and I guess it was, yeah, somewhere around there. Eh, maybe even more. Whatever it was. Uh, when I lived in LA, fire season happened every year. It, this is not climate change. This is not some new thing over the last couple of decades. I was evacuated three different times. Uh, I used to live in Bell Canyon, and my neighbors, three of the homes right across the, right across the street from my house burned to the ground in 2018. There, there's always been fires in Los Angeles. But the lack of preparation for the Palisades fires was astonishing. The fact that the reservoir was empty was criminal mismanagement. I mean, it was just insanity that everybody knew that we had fires, like massive fires, that it was a dry place, and when the Santa Ana winds would blow, if something caught fire, it was a real problem. We had known that forever. And when you see all these people that are passing the buck and moving the blame, and then the fund, when they had that big charity thing for the fire, and you found out that hundreds of millions of dollars was raised. You know, if you're, you're looking at it in, it, it, like a, an, a rational person, a rational person would say, "Oh, this is great. All these people who lost their homes will have some funds from this, and they'll be able to rebuild." And then you find out that the money was given to, what was it? Like 108 different NGOs?

9. SPSpencer Pratt3:34

   200 plus.

10. JRJoe Rogan3:35

    200 plus, where that money got distributed to these organizations, these supposed nonprofit organizations, and most of that money goes to overhead. And almost nothing goes to the people who lost their homes.

11. SPSpencer Pratt3:51

    So to rewa- rewind, let's start with what we thought.

12. JRJoe Rogan3:55

    Right.

13. SPSpencer Pratt3:56

    We were told climate change, and with the climate change, because I've spent hours and hours arguing with people that will argue with that. I go, "Okay, great. The climate changes," right? So we're aware of this dry weather. It hasn't rained. So what should we actually be doing? Should we just say, "Oh, everybody should burn alive and houses burn down"? Or should we clear the dead brush? Should we pre-deploy? Should we make sure that both reservoirs have water in it? So the idea that climate change is the, the get out of jail, burn everything down excuse, it doesn't even add up. So we know that, so let's make a difference. And I went and met with the chief of the U.S. Forest Service and talked to him for a few hours. This guy, Chief Garcia, he's one of the most famous fire chiefs from the Hotshots, and I quizzed him, and he told me this was not a surprise. He said they all have a map. And I forget the name of this map, that it goes to all cities and emergency personnel. They have photos. You look at them. He showed them to me. Everything is bright red leading up to January 7th. Bright red. They knew this was coming to the point where Chief Garcia had all of his firefighters on the tarmac, kitted up, in their helicopters. He said his whole team was standing by their computers because it was so obvious this fire was coming based off of, if you want to say, climate change. Because it s- it had not rained, it was record dry. So this idea that they use that, it's, it's just an excuse. And then the big one that everyone falls for to this day that I... Is the best propaganda ever, is hurricane winds. We were told, you know, Newsom's doing the thing and he's saying the winds would come in the hurricane. He lit his hair on fire. There was no hurricane winds in the Pacific Palisades. The max wind speed was 40 miles per hour. And for the first six hours, when the helicopter is the initial attack, when you put out the, the fire, it was max, I think, 27 miles per hour. So they got everyone with, "It's unprecedented, it's hurricane winds, it's climate change." No responsibility.

14. JRJoe Rogan6:06

    Right.

15. SPSpencer Pratt6:07

    So now we go to fire aid.This is this was another thing that just woke me up to, you know, we always heard about the homeless NGO scam and the homeless industrial complex, but living as a, a fire victim and watching all these celebrities go on stage, they actually took fire victims from Altadena on stage whose houses burned down, and they raised this hundred million dollars. And as a victim, I'm thinking, "Okay, you know, we're gonna get a few thousand dollars. That's nice." Or, you know, you break 100 million up, this should be a, a grand. You know, even FEMA and these places, when you get that thousand-dollar check, it's helpful. You're like, "Oh, I just lost everything." Every little thousand adds up. So when that happened and nobody I know anywhere got money, and Sue Pascoe from Circling the News, a local journalist, sh- whose house burned down, she spent months investigating, calling up every single NGO. "Who did you give money to? Which, which victim?" Nobody got money. And even the, the law firm that they hired to do the, you know, the coverup for, uh, the FireAid, the law firm says in their own little three-page document where they're defending FireAid, they say, "Several of the money went directly to fire victims." Well, I Googled just to see, 'cause I know the definition of several. I wanna see what does Google say several is. It was definitely under 10. So out of 200-plus NGOs, their own lawyers are saying several gave to fire victims. And then you look at the three that they name, like, "We gave gift cards to victims." Which victims? Which... You were just handing out if you were, but it, it was that that woke me up to if they will-

16. JRJoe Rogan7:53

    They stole the money.

17. SPSpencer Pratt7:54

    Yeah. And if they'll do that to the people whose houses just burned down, of course they're gonna do it to our tax money with the homeless industrial zombie complex. So that was a real wake up that put me into, "Oh, here's where the 25, $30 billion goes. It doesn't go to solving anything or fixing it. It goes to scams."

18. JRJoe Rogan8:15

    Well, I, I don't think before DOGE and before Elon started investigating into a lot of these NGOs, I don't think anybody was really aware, or most people were not aware of how this all works and how there's a, a whole bureaucracy, like a business that's set up where a bunch of people get paid from this money to essentially make no improvements whatsoever in whatever the problem is, whether it's homelessness. The homelessness is one of the biggest ones in LA because there was 24-plus billion dollars spent on homelessness, and when people, when representatives have tried to do an audit to find out where this money went, Newsom has blocked it. He has vetoed this audit.

19. SPSpencer Pratt9:01

    So it's, it's even worse in the sense that it's not going to just their salaries. There's actual cases now with the DOJ and the feds, they're arresting people who are just stealing 30 million, 20 million, buying Bentleys, mansions in Brentwood. So the idea that it's just going to salaries and people are paying themself out, that's one. But there's also people just straight up stealing money and, and you can't even figure out how they steal it. For instance, uh, this lovely lady, um, came on my podcast and she's, she created her own charity type thing, The Integrity Project, to expose NGOs, because she lives in Westwood, and all of a sudden one day on her block in this, you know, she invested with her husband to have a nice single family house on this nice street in Westwood, and the old person home, they're kicking all the senior citizens out. And she's like, "What's going on here?" And then next thing you know, the building's on the, on the market for sale, and it's for $11 million. Six days later, that building sells to a developer for $27 million. Ends up this NGO, Weingart, who's one of the top, I think they're at, um, maybe $100 million just this year. They haven't turned in their audit to the feds. It's late right now. But for instance, no one knows why it went from 11 million to 27 million over the weekend in three days. So people pocket that money. Here's the craziest part. Guess who... So you, the grant, you know, Weingart gets a grant from the city or the state. Guess who owns that building? Not the city or the state. Weingart. So our tax money buys for 20 extra million dollars a property to have it as a homeless housing. Each of these beds, 'cause I think there's maybe only 70 beds in it, it's now six years later, approximately, totally not finished, not done, more, you know, construction, this or that. They still get paid as operators. So these NGOs not only get the money for the grants to buy the building, then they get like a million dollars a year to be operators, and here's the best part. There's no mandatory that they have to actually put a body in the beds.

20. JRJoe Rogan11:07

    [chuckles] Jeez.

21. SPSpencer Pratt11:09

    So, you know, so the scam is, like I keep saying, this is a cartel. This is mafia. This is real mafia criminal stuff going on, and the problem is... So one thing I'm so excited to do when I'm mayor, and people in the comment section will be like, "Oh, he's so stupid. You can't do that." I've met with the IRS criminal investigation team three times in LA, twice in Washington, DC, and they are so excited for me to be mayor because all they need is one document from each of these NGOs and these grants, and they can open these investigations on fraud. Right now they know the fraud and the, and the crimes are happening, but if the city doesn't hand over the document and the NGO doesn't, they say they can't just open up these cases without that one document. So first week-

22. JRJoe Rogan11:55

    Sorry. No, I didn't know.

23. SPSpencer Pratt11:57

    So for s- first week as mayor, I'm bringing in the criminal investigation team of the IRS. Here's all the NGOs we're working with. I guarantee you 95% of them are already just calling like, "Oh, Mayor Pratt, well, we're good. We're actually going to Seattle. We don't wanna work here." Once they know someone's coming to stop the cookie jar stealing. And then, well, people are like, "Oh, LA has no money. How are you gonna do all this stuff?"LA has plenty of money that we're just letting our tax money just be stolen and to increase a problem. Homeless since our current mayor, Karen Bass, has, has joined the city power, she's increased homeless. They referenced numbers, they referenced numbers that, that she'll be like, "Oh, we removed fifteen hundred people this year." But she doesn't say, "Oh, fifteen hundred were removed into the cemetery because they OD'd." Not to mention how much tax money we're spending on just keeping zombies alive. I met with s- firefighters a few days ago at the Hollywood Station, and they were telling me the amount of Narcan they go through. So in one night in the, at the-- I talked to a, um, Mc- MacArthur Park, their fire station. He did seventeen overdoses in one night.

24. JRJoe Rogan13:07

    Jeez.

25. SPSpencer Pratt13:07

    So if we-- they're not there, given the Narcan, we're-- the, the amount of people dying is even more insane. Right now, six people are dying a day in the street, and then they say, "Oh, this is compassionate. These people have rights." No, these people do not have rights for, to just die. We need to protect these people as humans. And again, that's why my whole thing is enforce the law. It is illegal to just be doing fentanyl on the street. So if we come in and we give you mandatory treatment, not jail, if you're not... You know, some of these people are just straight going to jail for animal abuse. They're torturing animals all day long on Skid Row. The videos that I get sent, once you see them, you can't unsee them. Not to mention now I'm working with all the rescue ones. The ones, they text me, and they're just like, "Spencer, we have to stop this." And the city knows. They call the cops all day long. The cops come and they say-- I mean, LAPD's hands are tied. If the mayor and the city attorney, they don't have the, like, enforce the law, they just get away with it. So we're in Mad Max life in Los Angeles, and people like to say, "Oh, it's not..." It's-- I'm from LA. I've grown up, and I keep saying I'm fighting to get LA back to what I grew up. It was beautiful. It's why I wanted to be on a TV show and be famous and be part of Hollywood. It was magical. Not even mention Hollywood is now gone. The fact that Hollywood Boulevard should be the greatest tourist attraction in the world, you couldn't pay me right now to go on Hollywood Boulevard, step on human feces, the smell of pee, inhaling fent. They're just, everyone can just smoke fentanyl on the streets now. It's psycho. So again, why did I-- Once you start digging in and you spend all your life now exposing this, because again, they burned my house down. They burned my mom's house down. I have to-- They put me in the game, and once you, the bubble's gone, I just, all I have is this energy to stop this. Not to mention now the amount of thousands of messages I get every day from every part of the city sending me photos. There's parents that when they drive to school all across city, this is not just one unique area, they have to have their kids in the backseat staring at an iPad not to look out the window because meth addicts will just be having sex on the side of the street. There's just naked people everywhere now. And when I say people, naked zombies. And the DEA will tell you ninety percent of these homeless people have a drug problem. We have a drug addict problem. These aren't people that just, like, missed a paycheck and we need to get them help and give back.

26. JRJoe Rogan15:43

    Right.

27. SPSpencer Pratt15:43

    This is a drug problem that needs mandatory treatment, not handing people needles and pipes and saying, "Oh, here's a million dollar bed." If you're a fentanyl zombie hanging upside down, you don't care about a million dollar empty bed because you're just high. You sober up and you go get high again. But what were we talking about?

28. JRJoe Rogan16:02

    [laughs]

29. SPSpencer Pratt16:02

    You got me pumped up. You got me pumped up.

30. JRJoe Rogan16:04

    Well, it's good. It's good to be pumped up. I mean, there's no other explanation other than extensive fraud. There's no way they could be getting that much money from our taxes and have this big of a problem with crime and with homelessness. And it's almost like they want everybody to feel helpless. They want you to feel like there's nothing you could do so that it justifies throwing more money at the problem. Pull that article up again.

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