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An inside look at how the New York Times builds product | Alex Hardiman (CPO, the New York Times)

Alex Hardiman is Chief Product Officer at the New York Times, where she oversees the company’s news, cooking, games, audio and advertising products. Previously, Alex was Chief Product Officer at The Atlantic, and before that she was Head of News Products at Facebook. We discuss how engineers and product people work with writers to create impactful stories, how teams build the incredible visualizations and experiences for NYTimes.com, how product teams are structured within the New York Times, and the good and bad about working at a company like the New York Times versus a FAANG tech company. We also talk about the details behind the New York Times’s acquisition of Wordle and uncover what the Times is dreaming up for its product over the next 10 years. — Find the full transcript here: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/an-inside-look-at-how-the-new-york — Where to find Alex Hardiman: • Twitter: https://twitter.com/alex_hardiman • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandrahardiman/ — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ — Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for making this episode possible: • Miro: https://miro.com/lenny • Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lenny • Vanta: https://vanta.com/lenny — Referenced: • Jodi Kantor: https://www.nytimes.com/by/jodi-kantor • Wordle: https://www.nytimes.com/games/wordle/ • Wordle Is a Love Story: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/technology/wordle-word-game-creator.html • Josh Wardle on Twitter: https://twitter.com/powerlanguish • Eric Kim’s recipes: https://cooking.nytimes.com/ourcooks/eric-kim/ • Wirecutter: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/ • Framing Britney Spears: https://www.nytimes.com/article/framing-britney-spears.html • Hard Fork podcast: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/podcasts/hard-fork-technology.html • High Growth Handbook: Scaling Startups from 10 to 10,000 People: https://www.amazon.com/High-Growth-Handbook-Elad-Gil/dp/1732265100 • An Elegant Puzzle: Systems of Engineering Management: https://www.amazon.com/Elegant-Puzzle-Systems-Engineering-Management/dp/1732265186 • The Revolt of the Public and the Crisis of Authority in the New Millennium: https://www.amazon.com/Revolt-Public-Crisis-Authority-Millennium/dp/1732265143 • Giovanni’s Room: https://www.amazon.com/Giovannis-Room-James-Baldwin/dp/0345806565/r • The Daily podcast: https://www.nytimes.com/column/the-daily • The Wire on HBO: https://www.hbo.com/the-wire • Google Workspace: https://workspace.google.com/ • Slack: https://slack.com • Figma: https://figma.com • Mode: https://mode.com/ • GitHub: https://github.com/ • Fidji Simo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fidjisimo/ — In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Alex’s background (07:37) How Alex fought disinformation on the news team at Facebook (11:11) How some product people thrive in chaos (14:13) Alex’s return to the New York Times (16:22) What product means at the New York Times (20:42) How the product team at the New York Times is structured (26:20) How the New York Times makes stories come alive with balanced creative and technical teams (33:15) The acquisition of Wordle (42:00) What it was like to work at the New York Times during the onset of Covid (47:11) How to avoid burnout on a product team (49:26) How the New York Times has set itself apart with its subscription package (52:21) How the New York Times’s products are rooted in helping in the real world (52:54) Lenny’s tips for improving Wirecutter (53:36) The differences and similarities on product teams in a news organization (59:58) Lightning round — Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.

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Nov 12, 20221h 7mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Inside The New York Times: Building Mission-Driven Products At Scale

  1. Alex Hardiman, Chief Product Officer at The New York Times, explains how the company builds digital products that serve both a business model and a civic mission to inform the world. She contrasts mission-driven product work at the Times with her experience at Facebook, including the post-2016 election reckoning with misinformation. The conversation covers the Times’ bundle strategy (news, games, cooking, sports, audio, shopping), its unique collaboration model between product and newsroom, and detailed stories like integrating Wordle and building COVID tools under extreme pressure. Throughout, Alex emphasizes how product teams at the Times define impact through both subscriptions and real-world societal outcomes.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Anchor product strategy in a clear mission, then let business goals serve that mission.

At the Times, subscription growth and engagement are pursued explicitly to support the mission of seeking truth and strengthening democracy, which shapes prioritization, product decisions, and how impact is defined.

Organize around cross-functional missions that include editorial leaders, not just tech roles.

Consumer product missions at the Times include PMs, engineers, designers, data, and crucially editors, enabling products that marry journalistic judgment with strong UX and data-driven decision-making.

Turn one-off experimental formats into scalable platforms once you see real signal.

Highly bespoke interactive stories and visualizations often start as newsroom experiments; a dedicated storytelling product team then abstracts successful patterns into reusable tools and systems across the report.

Treat acquisitions like Wordle with extreme care for user trust and product “magic.”

The Times rewrote Wordle in its stack, added free account sync to preserve stats and streaks, and carefully surfaced it across properties—while learning hard lessons about edge cases like the “fetus” puzzle during the Roe v. Wade leak.

In crises, be ready to blow up roadmaps and rapidly reorient around emergent needs.

During COVID, the Times pivoted overnight to build a national case dataset, local data tools, and free critical coverage, reallocating engineers and product teams to match the urgency and societal stakes of the moment.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Our impact and our business goals are in service of our mission, which is to seek the truth and help people understand the world, not the other way around.

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These are actually the conditions where product managers, I think, thrive—taking crazy inputs and creating a structured model to find the most important problems to solve.

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When you’re a product manager here, you’re driving metrics like engagement or subscribers, but you’re also trying to help stories find their real audience in ways that trigger a whole different side of mission and purpose-driven impact.

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At Facebook, we controlled the software and the distribution but we didn’t control the content. At The Times, we own our journalism, our distribution, and our products.

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We want to build the essential subscription for any curious English-speaking person around the world who really wants to know what’s happening and make great decisions.

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Alex Hardiman’s career path across The New York Times, Facebook, and The AtlanticThe New York Times’ product strategy and multi-product subscription bundleHow product and newsroom teams collaborate, including embedding editors on product squadsBuilding and scaling storytelling formats, data visualizations, and live coverageThe acquisition and integration of Wordle and other properties like The AthleticResponding to crises such as COVID-19 with high-impact product workDifferences between product management in news organizations vs. big tech platforms

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