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Lenny's PodcastHow to hit revenue targets in a recession | Sahil Mansuri (Bravado)
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Redesigning Sales To Hit Revenue Targets In A Brutal Downturn
- Founder and Bravado CEO Sahil Mansuri explains how sales strategy, quotas, and compensation must fundamentally change in a recessionary, capital‑constrained market.
- Drawing on real-time data from 300,000+ salespeople, he shows that most reps and companies are now missing quota and argues for conservative planning with predefined checkpoints to adjust forecasts.
- He urges shifting focus from new logo acquisition to retention, expansion, and customer-led warm intros, and proposes modernizing sales comp to reward long-term customer success, not just new ARR.
- Throughout, he shares concrete tactics (e.g., how he closed Facebook via a cold email to Sheryl Sandberg) and challenges founders to innovate their go-to-market model rather than simply cut costs.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasPlan conservatively, then predefine milestones to re-forecast and unlock spend.
Given massive quota misses and volatility, founders should set a conservative annual plan, then establish clear quarterly or monthly checkpoints that trigger either more aggressive investment or further belt-tightening—agreed in advance with the board to avoid optimism bias and ad-hoc decisions.
Redesign sales compensation to reward retention and customer quality, not just new ARR.
Traditional 50/50 OTE structures and pure-new-business commissions incentivize reps to close any deal, even bad-fit customers who churn; Sahil advocates incorporating renewal, upsell, NDR, and rep-level churn metrics into comp so reps are paid more for durable, referenceable customers.
Prioritize existing customers over cold outbound; move your best sellers into post‑sales.
With cold email and cold call response rates at historic lows and sales cycles lengthening, it’s far more productive to protect and grow current accounts; Sahil even suggests reassigning top AEs into customer success roles to minimize churn and drive expansions.
Use your unique cross-customer data to become a strategic advisor, not just a tool vendor.
Vendors like Bravado, analytics tools, or ATS platforms can aggregate benchmarks (hiring trends, quota attainment, pricing, etc.) and feed them back to customers as exclusive reports, making the product harder to rip out and deepening strategic dependence.
Lean heavily on warm introductions and text-based follow‑through to close new deals.
In this market, Sahil argues that email is “where deals go to die”; instead, harvest intros from happy customers at events, request immediate text introductions, keep the introducer on the text thread to maintain social pressure, and persistently follow up to convert interest into meetings.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesSales comp plans are stuck in the world of Glengarry Glen Ross and Wolf of Wall Street. We haven’t built a modern compensation plan that aligns the business, the customer, and the rep.
— Sahil Mansuri
In a world in which you can’t sell to new customers, your only hope is to keep the ones you’ve got.
— Sahil Mansuri
Companies either grow or they die. There’s no middle ground where you just cut burn and survive the winter.
— Sahil Mansuri
Email is where deals go to die. Text message is where deals get done.
— Sahil Mansuri
Sales, when done well, doesn’t feel salesy. People love paying you money because it’s a delightful experience.
— Sahil Mansuri
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