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The art and wisdom of changing teams | Heidi Helfand (Author of Dynamic Reteaming)

Heidi Helfand is the author of Dynamic Reteaming, which outlines practical strategies for orchestrating successful team and company org changes. Her work is informed by more than 20 years in the tech industry at notable companies like AppFolio, Procore, and Expertcity/GoToMeeting. Today, she dedicates her efforts to sharing her knowledge through workshops, comprehensive courses, and consultative services, helping organizations navigate and optimize their team structures. In this episode, we discuss: • The importance of reteaming and reorging • The benefits of embracing reteaming • The five patterns of reteaming: one by one, grow and split, merging, isolation, and switching • Examples of successful reteaming • Why stable teams are not always ideal • How change can lead to great career opportunities • The RIDE framework for decision-making • Advice on how to set up isolated teams for success • The anti-patterns of reteaming and the challenges that can arise • Tactical tips for becoming a better listener — Brought to you by: • Productroadmap.ai—AI to connect your roadmaps to revenue: https://productroadmap.ai • Hex—Helping teams ask and answer data questions by working together: https://www.hex.tech/lenny • Ahrefs—Improve your website’s SEO for free: https://ahrefs.com/awt Find the transcript and references at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-art-and-wisdom-of-changing-teams Where to find Heidi Helfand: • X: https://twitter.com/heidihelfand • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidihelfand/ • Website: https://www.heidihelfand.com/ Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Heidi’s background (03:40) How Heidi got involved with reteaming and reorgs (07:37) Advice for people dealing with reorgs (11:56) The benefits of change and the RIDE framework (17:11) The five patterns of reteaming (20:00) The power of isolation (27:38) Advice on how to be successful by isolating small teams (33:27) Supporting and protecting internal startups (34:33) The one-by-one pattern (36:44) The grow and split pattern (39:20) The merging pattern (42:14) The switching pattern (50:18) Anti-patterns of reteaming (52:49) Embracing change and growth (58:48) How to become a better listener (01:01:28) Lightning round Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com. Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.

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Jan 17, 20241h 10mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Embracing reteaming: turning constant org change into strategic advantage

  1. Heidi Helfand, author of *Dynamic Reteaming*, argues that team change is inevitable in growing and shrinking companies and can be harnessed as a positive force rather than feared. She outlines five core patterns of how teams evolve—one-by-one, grow-and-split, merging, isolation, and switching—and distinguishes these from traditional, top‑down reorgs. Throughout, she shares concrete stories (ExpertCity/GoToMyPC, AppFolio, SecureDocs, Spotify, Redgate) and tactics for making changes more transparent, participatory, and humane while avoiding common anti‑patterns. The conversation also touches on leadership mindset, change psychology, and even how to become a better listener and culture‑builder inside fast‑moving organizations.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Treat reteaming as a normal, continuous process—not a rare catastrophe.

Teams inevitably change as companies grow, shrink, and pivot; resisting this reality creates more pain than accepting and designing for it. Viewing reteaming as an ongoing practice lets you prepare, experiment, and improve instead of constantly reacting.

Use the five reteaming patterns as a shared language for change.

One-by-one (joins/leaves), grow-and-split, merging, isolation, and switching describe most team changes at any scale. Naming these patterns helps leaders and teams reason about options, trade‑offs, and timing instead of treating every change as a one‑off reorg.

Increase transparency and participation in reorgs to reduce fear and unlock opportunity.

Tactics like whiteboard reteaming (showing future team structures, missions, open roles, and current names) or open self‑selection events give people visibility and some choice. This surfaces design flaws early, reveals hidden interest, and turns reorgs into career opportunities instead of surprises.

Deploy isolation teams for high‑stakes innovation and crisis response.

Creating a small, protected team with process freedom, clear executive sponsorship, and minimal bureaucracy is powerful for launching new product lines (e.g., GoToMyPC, SecureDocs) or fixing critical issues. It only works well when they’re shielded from distractions and their decisions won’t be endlessly second‑guessed.

Design for redundancy and switching to avoid knowledge silos and burnout.

Regular pairing, rotating pairs, and intentional switching between teams build shared ownership of systems, reduce single points of failure, and give people new learning opportunities. This both protects the business (when someone leaves) and extends employee engagement by making internal moves feel like new jobs.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Reteaming is hard. Reorgs are hard. You can't lump them all into one thing with, you know, 'Oh, it's all great all the time.' No, it's not.

Heidi Helfand

If we could just build the software, deliver to the customer, get the product market fit... If only it could be that easy. No, we have the people layer. So let's focus there too.

Heidi Helfand

Sometimes you want to keep that team together. You don't want to destroy that dynamic. But the thing is... nothing lasts.

Heidi Helfand

It's always great to be at a successful company, Heidi.

John Walker, as quoted by Heidi Helfand

Listening is a muscle to build and to always work on. You’ve got to put your attention out, focus on the other person.

Heidi Helfand

The inevitability and value of reteaming versus traditional reorgsThe five patterns of team change (one-by-one, grow & split, merging, isolation, switching)Transparent and participatory approaches to reorgs (whiteboard reteaming, self‑selection)Anti‑patterns and common failure modes in org and team changesUsing isolation teams to incubate new products and handle emergenciesManaging the human side of change (transitions, agency, belonging, safety)Leadership, listening skills, and culture‑building in high‑growth companies

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