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What it takes to become a top 1% PM | Ian McAllister (Uber, Amazon, Airbnb)

Ian McAllister is the Senior Director of Product for Vehicles at Uber. Before moving to Uber, Ian spent over a decade directing teams at Amazon, where he created and led Amazon Smile. He was also Director of Product Management at Airbnb, where I was lucky enough to have worked alongside him. In today’s episode, we discuss Ian’s famous document about the essential attributes of the top 1% of product managers. Ian outlines the most important skills to focus on for entry-level PMs and how to broaden your experience and diversify skills as you move up the ladder. He also shares what he learned working with Jeff Wilke, Jeff Bezos, and other leaders at Amazon, and goes in depth on Amazon’s working-backwards framework.  — Find the full transcript here: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/what-it-takes-to-become-a-top-1-pm-ian-mcallister-uber-amazon-airbnb/#transcript — Where to find Ian McAllister: • Newsletter: https://ianmcallister.substack.com/ • Twitter: https://twitter.com/ianmcall • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianmcallister/ — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ — Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for making this episode possible: • Mixpanel: https://mixpanel.com/startups • Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lenny • AssemblyAI: https://www.assemblyai.com/?utm_source=lennyspodcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=nov20 — Referenced: • What distinguishes the top 1% of product managers from the top 10%, on Substack: https://ianmcallister.substack.com/p/what-distinguishes-the-top-1-of-product • What distinguishes the top 1% of product managers from the top 10%, on Quora: https://www.quora.com/What-distinguishes-the-Top-1-of-product-managers-from-the-Top-10 • Amazon’s working-backwards method: https://www.productplan.com/glossary/working-backward-amazon-method/ • Jeff Wilke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeffawilke • Getting Real: The Smarter, Faster, Easier Way to Build a Successful Web Application: https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Real-Smarter-Successful-Application/dp/0578012812 • Wool (Wool trilogy #1): https://www.amazon.com/Wool-Trilogy-Howey-25-Apr-2013-Paperback/dp/B011T7ACU0/ • Energy and Civilization: A History: https://www.amazon.com/Energy-Civilization-History-MIT-Press/dp/0262035774 • How I Built This podcast: https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-this • EV News Daily podcast: https://www.evnewsdaily.com/ • Yellowstone on Peacock: https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/yellowstone • Everything Everywhere All at Once on Showtime: https://www.sho.com/titles/3493875/everything-everywhere-all-at-once • Gibson Biddle’s website: https://www.gibsonbiddle.com/ • Gibson Biddle on Lenny’s Podcast: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/gibson-biddle-on-his-dhm-product-strategy-framework-gem-roadmap-prioritization-framework-5-netflix-strategy-mini-case-studies-building-a-personal-board-of-directors-and-much-more/ • Gibson Biddle’s Ask Gib newsletter: https://askgib.substack.com/ — In this episode, we cover: (00:00) What Ian expected from his initial post on product management (05:30) How the post impacted Ian’s career (07:06) How writing can help you crystallize your thoughts (08:26) Ian’s background (10:57) Attributes of the top 1% of PMs (14:32) The top three skills for new PMs to perfect (20:32) Tips on strengthening communication and prioritization (23:06) How to level up as a PM (26:37) What kind of impact should new PMs expect to make? (29:36) How to broaden your view and think big (33:06) How to earn the trust of others (34:30) How Ian could have done more to earn trust at Airbnb (37:27) Why people tend to stick around Amazon for a while  (39:53) What Ian learned from Bezos and Wilke (46:38) How teams get working backwards wrong (53:51) The two parts of working backwards and how Ian utilizes it at Uber (58:57) Lightning round — Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.

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Nov 19, 20221h 4mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Inside the Mindset of a Top 1% Product Manager, Amazon-Style

  1. Product leader Ian McAllister (Amazon, Airbnb, Uber) breaks down what separates top 1% product managers from everyone else, emphasizing communication, ruthless prioritization, and relentless execution as the foundational skills. He expands his classic framework with newer, underrated skills like earning trust, digging for data, pushing back effectively, adapting to change, and optimizing for impact rather than promotion.
  2. Ian also demystifies Amazon’s famed “working backwards” process, explaining that its essence is obsessing over the customer problem first, not the solution or available tech, with the internal press release and FAQ serving as mechanisms to enforce that mindset. He shares concrete stories from Amazon, Airbnb, and his own career that illustrate how misapplying the process (starting from technology or “what we could build”) leads to weak products.
  3. Throughout the conversation, Ian stresses that no PM is perfect across all dimensions; instead, PMs should develop a core set of strengths appropriate to their career stage and continuously self-assess and improve after every communication, project, and leadership moment.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

For new PMs, communication, prioritization, and execution matter most.

Early-career PMs often stress about being strategic or visionary, but Ian argues their leverage comes from clearly answering questions (e.g., give a date when asked “when”), making sharp tradeoffs, and reliably shipping what they commit to.

For senior PMs, thinking big, earning trust, and driving impact are the differentiators.

As scope grows, leaders are judged less on feature delivery and more on whether they can articulate big opportunities, be trusted stewards of resources, and consistently move key business metrics up and to the right.

Working backwards is about the problem, not the press release template.

The core of Amazon’s process is starting with a real, painful customer problem and only then designing solutions; the internal PR/FAQ is just a mechanism to force that discipline, not the essence of the method.

Most teams misapply “working backwards” by starting from technology or assets.

A telltale sign is language like “we could combine these two systems” or “we already have these ingredients,” which signals solution-first thinking and retrofitted problem statements rather than truly customer-back reasoning.

Trust is the primary currency of product leadership.

Trust is built by repeatedly setting and meeting expectations, telling the truth, owning mistakes, and shipping what you said you would; without it, you won’t get resources or alignment for larger bets, no matter how smart your ideas are.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

If you simply wake up every day trying to have the biggest impact you can on the company, how you do every part of your day, that's a really good guiding light.

Ian McAllister

You’ve got to be a clear thinker to be a clear communicator.

Ian McAllister

Given the same amount of skill, intelligence, and resources, a product manager with a great innate ability to prioritize is going to generate five times the impact as someone without that skill.

Ian McAllister

Trust is the currency of a product manager and a product leader.

Ian McAllister

Working backwards is all about the problem… If you have the solution first and then retrofit the problem, you’re not really working backwards.

Ian McAllister

Core traits that distinguish top 1% vs. top 10% product managersHow focus areas change for junior vs. senior PMsThe real meaning and mechanics of Amazon’s working backwards processEarning and maintaining trust as a product leaderPrioritization, execution, and impact as central PM responsibilitiesLessons from working with Jeff Bezos and Jeff WilkeCommon mistakes teams make when trying to copy Amazon’s processes

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